0fficial 2017-2018 NBA Postseason Thread....NBA Finals Cavs vs Warriors 0-4(dubs back 2 back champs)

The only thing “Ugly” about the Rockets was their shooting. They missed 30 threes! :smh:
They're a high volume shooting team. The jack up more 3's than any team. Nobody ever said they have the best 3 point shooters in the league but their style got them the best record in the league & one win away from the finals.
 
They're a high volume shooting team. The jack up more 3's than any team. Nobody ever said they have the best 3 point shooters in the league but their style got them the best record in the league & one win away from the finals.

Very true, but missing 30 threes is ugly. They take the most and make the most 3’s, it’s still ugly to miss 30 threes.
 
from a washington editor :lol:


Kevin Durant joining the Warriors was supposed to mean the end of one late-game isolation after another. Instead, the Rockets have caused him to revert to old habits — and, in doing so, have pushed Golden State to the brink.

Kevin Durant is reverting to old habits as Warriors get pushed to brink of elimination
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Kevin Durant has spent much of the Western Conference finals playing in isolation. (Ronald Martinez/Getty Images)
HOUSTON — At one point during TNT’s telecast of Game 5 of the Western Conference finals between the Golden State Warriors and Houston Rockets, a clip was shown of Warriors Coach Steve Kerr talking to Kevin Durant about his own playing days.

“When [Michael Jordan] was with the Bulls, we had a playoff game and he kept trying to score. And he was scoring, but we weren’t getting anything going. Phil Jackson said, ‘Who’s open?’ He said, ‘John Paxson.’

“I want you to trust your teammates early, early. What you’re doing is, you’re getting to the rim, and then you’re trying to hit him. I want you to trust the first guy. And then move. Still attack, still look to score, but trust these guys, okay?”



It was a less-than-30-second snapshot of the way Kerr views basketball. A disciple of both Jackson and Gregg Popovich, two of the three greatest coaches the sport has ever seen, Kerr believes in selflessness, in teamwork, in sharing the ball with the open man, in passing and moving and getting everyone involved.

So imagine how Kerr feels after watching his team send its offense careening into a ditch repeatedly throughout this series. The result? The Golden State Warriors — the team with four in-their-prime Hall of Famers on the roster — are within a game of going home for the summer without the repeat title they seemed destined to win after losing, 98-94, on Thursday night.

[Chris Paul’s hamstring injury casts a pall over Rockets’ Game 5 win]

The Warriors all said the right things after the game. Kerr said he liked the team’s ball movement. Draymond Green said Golden State “figured something out” on the offensive end. Stephen Curry harped on the team’s 16 turnovers — which has always been Golden State’s Achilles’ heel during its run the past four seasons.

But there’s a reason the original tweet that TNT’s account put out about Durant talking to Kerr was deleted. Somewhere, with someone, it struck a nerve.

Here’s the truth about the position the Warriors find themselves in as they head back to the Bay Area for Game 6 on Saturday night: They are in it because they’ve lost their way. It’s not because Andre Iguodala is injured, although his presence has been sorely missed. It’s not because the Rockets are playing incandescent offense; they shot 37 percent in this game and went 13 for 43 from three-point range.

The Warriors have fallen into the trap the Rockets laid for them: They’re going isolation-heavy with Durant against whatever mismatch he can get, and getting away from the pass-happy offense that has torn the league to shreds since Kerr arrived in the Bay Area four years ago this month.

So, where has that gone? It has been lost in a sea of Kevin Durant isolations and post-ups. This isn’t all on Durant, either; Kerr liked some of the mismatches Durant got, and he’s obviously one of the great isolation scorers in the sport. And, frankly, after losing to the Cleveland Cavaliers in seven games in the 2016 NBA Finals, the Warriors went so hard after Durant in free agency specifically to have him available to bail them out of situations like this.



But instead of being used as a last resort, he has become the whole offense far too often in this series.

Durant took 22 shots and had no assists in Game 5. In three games in Houston, Durant has a single assist, which came in Golden State’s Game 1 victory. In the other game Golden State won in this series, Game 3 in Oakland, Durant had six of them.

That’s not a coincidence. Nor is the fact that Golden State’s offense has bogged down in the fourth quarters of Games 4 and 5. A main reason for that is Durant shot a combined 1 for 9 in them.

“They’re switching a lot when I get in the post now,” Durant said. “I can feel them bringing a guy over, so I just got to make the right play.”

For the Warriors, the right play involves moving the ball. Durant and his teammates simply haven’t done enough of that.

And, for that, Houston deserves a massive amount of credit. The Rockets have been incredibly impressive in this series, showing far more grit and determination than many gave them credit for having. That includes gutting out both Games 4 and 5 of this series with second-half surges into the lead — something most wouldn’t have counted on them being able to do against this Warriors team.

But a large part of why that strategy is working is because Durant is allowing himself to be lulled into it. For the first nine years of his career, Durant played in this fashion. Old habits die hard.

And this is the first time these Warriors have been tested since Durant arrived in Golden State two summers ago. Last year, Golden State went 16-1 in the playoffs, one of the most dominant postseason runs of all-time.



Before Game 5, Kerr declared that, despite the Warriors essentially being on cruise control for the past 18 months or so — only to be jolted out of that state by blowing a 10-point lead in Game 4 at home — he thought his players would rise to the occasion.

“I think you just — when you go through the playoffs like our core group has, at this point you kind of feel like you’ve seen it all,” Kerr said. Last year was obviously the exception rather than the rule, and very few teams in NBA history can go through the playoffs with one loss.

“But I do know from my own experience in the NBA, this is how the playoffs go. It’s supposed to feel hard. It’s supposed to feel difficult. Stuff happens. You get injuries, suspensions, things happen, and you just have to play through everything.”

The Warriors have had a little bit of everything. They’re in their fourth year playing 100 games a season, a grueling run for any franchise. They have Klay Thompson playing through a knee injury, and Iguodala has sat out the past two games with one. The rest of the roster is unbalanced. They are up against the most formidable opponent they’ve seen since Durant arrived — albeit one that, because of Chris Paul’s hamstring injury in the final minute of Game 5, may be compromised for the remainder of this series.

But Kerr also left out one key element: This core group has not been through everything together. Yes, that counts for most of the Warriors — himself, Curry, Green, Thompson, Iguodala, Shaun Livingston. But it doesn’t count for Durant — not with this team, not playing this way.

As the past two games have gone down to the wire, Durant has gone back to his old ways, and the Warriors have allowed him to do it. Doing so has short-circuited their offense, and robbed Golden State of what made it special to begin with.

To win this series, that needs to change now. As Kerr said, that trust in the team from everyone, beginning with Durant, needs to return. If it doesn’t, what was supposed to be a coronation, a second straight title and the third in four years, will instead result in an exit from the postseason the Warriors never saw coming.
 
LeBron James flips elimination-game game on its head
By Dan FeldmanMay 25, 2018, 2:35 PM EDT
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His Cavaliers down 3-2 to the Celtics in the Eastern Conference finals, how does LeBron James assess his situation?

"I don’t enjoy being in the position where it’s you lose and go home," LeBron saidbefore Game 6 tonight in Cleveland.

He might not enjoy this position, but he’s pretty good in it.

Since he first reached the playoffs in 2006, other teams have won 26% of their elimination games. LeBron’s teams have won 57% of theirs.

Of course, LeBron hasn’t gone 12-9 in elimination games just because he’s lucky. He has willed his team off the mat numerous times.

LeBron has scored 40 points and/or had a triple-double in six straight elimination games, winning five of them. His line in his last elimination game before that streak? Just 32 points, 18 rebounds and nine assists.

A full history of LeBron’s elimination games:



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With an eye on the future, Cleveland Cavaliers and LeBron James pushed to the brink


LeBron James is the NBA’s top scorer in elimination games, at 33.5 points in 21 such predicaments.

CLEVELAND -- Sometimes it’s just a basketball game. Sometimes it’s about surviving and advancing. And sometimes, it’s past, present and future rolled into one.



That last perspective is the big-picture, all-encompassing one in play at Quicken Loans Arena Friday night for Game 6 of the Eastern Conference championship series (8:30 ET, ESPN). Normally, it’s rare that a Game 6 – without nearly the cachet of those vaunted, nail-biting Game 7s – would pack such a punch. But this is no ordinary scenario.

No ordinary win-or-go-home pivot point.

No ordinary dominant central figure.

LeBron James is what brings the context to this clash between his Cleveland Cavaliers and the Boston Celtics. His is a career measured in championship rings and lifetime NBA statistical totals, yes, but also in Finals appearances, elimination-game performances and the ability to be great when greatness matters most.

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Can LeBron James and the Cavaliers win Game 6 to force a Game 7?
James’ active streak of seven consecutive trips to the NBA Finals is part of the “past” mentioned up top, the train of history that James – as one of the league’s legends, even if he were to quit tomorrow – sends down the track every time he steps on a court. It’s also the one he seems least interested in, assuring fans and media every year around this time that some day, most likely “with a bottle of wine,” he’ll sit back with friends and confidantes and assess his legacy for himself.

The future? That’s the uncertainty in which James seems to revel, or at least thrive, as it relates to his whereabouts for any given season. He set that in motion too, eight years ago, when he took his prodigious talents to South Beach for a four-year crash education in “super teams” and winning. Then he did it again in 2014, boomeranging home not to his Mom’s couch in the basement but to the franchise in Cleveland where, in basketball terms, he was raised.

Four years later, James is poised to do it again. He has an option in his contract for 2018-19 that allows him either to stay in Cleveland or to leave via free agency for ... whatever suits him.

If James wants to build another team of stars and buddies, if he prefers to jump aboard a team growing with young talent already in place such as Philadelphia, if he wants to move for lifestyle and business as much as basketball this time or if he decides that being the King of northeast Ohio to oversee the franchise he presumptively will choose to purchase someday, the choice rightfully is his.

When he came back to Cleveland and led the Cavaliers to three consecutive Finals and the 2016 championship, all paperwork was stamped “Paid In Full.” He owes the basketball public in his home state or elsewhere nothing, as far as on-court achievements or striving.

James steadfastly has declined to address his summer plans whenever asked, and it’s likely they’re being formulated in real time as this 2018 postseason unspools. He shrugged off the idea that he is playing now with his previous Finals appearances in mind, too, when talking with reporters after Cleveland’s Game 5 loss in Boston Wednesday.

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LeBron James discusses Game 5 and whether he was fatigued at the end.
“I've never went to any season saying, 'OK, let's have a Finals streak,’” James said. "It's just all about just win every game and it should put us in position to play for a championship. We have another opportunity on Friday to be as good as we can be, play Cavs basketball on our home floor and force a Game 7."

If I had to pick one guy and choose one guy to prevail, it would be LeBron. I know he'll be great come tomorrow."
Cavs coach Tyronn Lue on James

So others can dwell on the past and obsess about the future. James and the Cavaliers need to be very much in the present if they want to continue playing basketball with their ultimate goal just five victories away, with this Cleveland roster as currently constituted.

It has been a tortuous season for the Cavs – yes, yes, they have James, so that’s an automatic head start over the rest of the NBA, but it doesn’t make them impervious to setbacks and hiccups. The most notable came at point guard, when All-Star Kyrie Irving made clear last summer his intention to play elsewhere this season. Cleveland’s front office blinked, trading the dynamic ball handler and shot creator to Boston.

And that was only the start of it. Among the assets the Cavaliers got in return, guard Isaiah Thomas was damaged goods whose lingering rehab from a hip injury gouged into January. When Thomas finally did play, he was oil to the rest of the Cavs’ (particulary James’) water. And Jae Crowder didn’t fit either.

So more trades. Cleveland overhauled itself in early February, sending out six players, bringing back four. It has blended them into a whole in fits and starts, with coach Tyronn Lue not sure which player will perform well from one game to the next even within each playoff series.

It’s one thing for a young team such as Boston to experience sizable ups and downs in reliability as its players earn their playoff legs. It’s quite another for salty Cavs veterans such as George Hill and J.R. Smith to do vanishing acts at the same time, as if they’re all trembly based on the home vs. road schedule.

Cutting through it all, of course, is James. He’s been at this so long, tested-and-passed so many times in all manner of circumstances, that the default position for fans, media and even his coaches is to take him for granted.

In Boston Wednesday, in what clearly was one of his poorer games this postseason and one in which he looked and admitted he was tired, James still had 26 points, 10 rebounds and five assists, while making half of his 22 shots in 39 minutes.

And when Lue spoke to reporters on a conference call Thursday, he sounded pretty much like every other Cleveland hopeful. “If I had to pick one guy and choose one guy to prevail, it would be LeBron. I know he'll be great come tomorrow.”

James simply is the NBA’s top scorer in elimination games, at 33.5 ppg across 21 such predicaments. Four times in seven elimination games faced by Cleveland, he has scored at least 40 points.

So before the Cavaliers’ present becomes their past, lest anyone get ahead of this playoff process and speculate about James’ possibly-maybe-potentially last home game (or last game, period) with Cleveland, recall how he has handled this situations before.

It really does boil down to the old saying, “Yesterday is history. Tomorrow is a mystery. Today is a gift, which is why they call it the present.”

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The Cavs should possibly be the ones up 3-2,but turnovers have plaque this team in game 2 and 5. I don't understand,why this team turnover the ball so much. Most of the turnovers are from bullshit plays like throwing the ball to the Celtics or throwing the ball out of bounds.

And,then you have a coach the refuse to play players like Nance,who brings energy to the team. I'm so sick of this god dayum coach....:smh::smh::smh:


If,the Cavs lose the blame should be on the coach.
 
from a washington editor :lol:


Kevin Durant joining the Warriors was supposed to mean the end of one late-game isolation after another. Instead, the Rockets have caused him to revert to old habits — and, in doing so, have pushed Golden State to the brink.

Kevin Durant is reverting to old habits as Warriors get pushed to brink of elimination
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Kevin Durant has spent much of the Western Conference finals playing in isolation. (Ronald Martinez/Getty Images)
HOUSTON — At one point during TNT’s telecast of Game 5 of the Western Conference finals between the Golden State Warriors and Houston Rockets, a clip was shown of Warriors Coach Steve Kerr talking to Kevin Durant about his own playing days.

“When [Michael Jordan] was with the Bulls, we had a playoff game and he kept trying to score. And he was scoring, but we weren’t getting anything going. Phil Jackson said, ‘Who’s open?’ He said, ‘John Paxson.’

“I want you to trust your teammates early, early. What you’re doing is, you’re getting to the rim, and then you’re trying to hit him. I want you to trust the first guy. And then move. Still attack, still look to score, but trust these guys, okay?”



It was a less-than-30-second snapshot of the way Kerr views basketball. A disciple of both Jackson and Gregg Popovich, two of the three greatest coaches the sport has ever seen, Kerr believes in selflessness, in teamwork, in sharing the ball with the open man, in passing and moving and getting everyone involved.

So imagine how Kerr feels after watching his team send its offense careening into a ditch repeatedly throughout this series. The result? The Golden State Warriors — the team with four in-their-prime Hall of Famers on the roster — are within a game of going home for the summer without the repeat title they seemed destined to win after losing, 98-94, on Thursday night.

[Chris Paul’s hamstring injury casts a pall over Rockets’ Game 5 win]

The Warriors all said the right things after the game. Kerr said he liked the team’s ball movement. Draymond Green said Golden State “figured something out” on the offensive end. Stephen Curry harped on the team’s 16 turnovers — which has always been Golden State’s Achilles’ heel during its run the past four seasons.

But there’s a reason the original tweet that TNT’s account put out about Durant talking to Kerr was deleted. Somewhere, with someone, it struck a nerve.

Here’s the truth about the position the Warriors find themselves in as they head back to the Bay Area for Game 6 on Saturday night: They are in it because they’ve lost their way. It’s not because Andre Iguodala is injured, although his presence has been sorely missed. It’s not because the Rockets are playing incandescent offense; they shot 37 percent in this game and went 13 for 43 from three-point range.

The Warriors have fallen into the trap the Rockets laid for them: They’re going isolation-heavy with Durant against whatever mismatch he can get, and getting away from the pass-happy offense that has torn the league to shreds since Kerr arrived in the Bay Area four years ago this month.

So, where has that gone? It has been lost in a sea of Kevin Durant isolations and post-ups. This isn’t all on Durant, either; Kerr liked some of the mismatches Durant got, and he’s obviously one of the great isolation scorers in the sport. And, frankly, after losing to the Cleveland Cavaliers in seven games in the 2016 NBA Finals, the Warriors went so hard after Durant in free agency specifically to have him available to bail them out of situations like this.



But instead of being used as a last resort, he has become the whole offense far too often in this series.

Durant took 22 shots and had no assists in Game 5. In three games in Houston, Durant has a single assist, which came in Golden State’s Game 1 victory. In the other game Golden State won in this series, Game 3 in Oakland, Durant had six of them.

That’s not a coincidence. Nor is the fact that Golden State’s offense has bogged down in the fourth quarters of Games 4 and 5. A main reason for that is Durant shot a combined 1 for 9 in them.

“They’re switching a lot when I get in the post now,” Durant said. “I can feel them bringing a guy over, so I just got to make the right play.”

For the Warriors, the right play involves moving the ball. Durant and his teammates simply haven’t done enough of that.

And, for that, Houston deserves a massive amount of credit. The Rockets have been incredibly impressive in this series, showing far more grit and determination than many gave them credit for having. That includes gutting out both Games 4 and 5 of this series with second-half surges into the lead — something most wouldn’t have counted on them being able to do against this Warriors team.

But a large part of why that strategy is working is because Durant is allowing himself to be lulled into it. For the first nine years of his career, Durant played in this fashion. Old habits die hard.

And this is the first time these Warriors have been tested since Durant arrived in Golden State two summers ago. Last year, Golden State went 16-1 in the playoffs, one of the most dominant postseason runs of all-time.



Before Game 5, Kerr declared that, despite the Warriors essentially being on cruise control for the past 18 months or so — only to be jolted out of that state by blowing a 10-point lead in Game 4 at home — he thought his players would rise to the occasion.

“I think you just — when you go through the playoffs like our core group has, at this point you kind of feel like you’ve seen it all,” Kerr said. Last year was obviously the exception rather than the rule, and very few teams in NBA history can go through the playoffs with one loss.

“But I do know from my own experience in the NBA, this is how the playoffs go. It’s supposed to feel hard. It’s supposed to feel difficult. Stuff happens. You get injuries, suspensions, things happen, and you just have to play through everything.”

The Warriors have had a little bit of everything. They’re in their fourth year playing 100 games a season, a grueling run for any franchise. They have Klay Thompson playing through a knee injury, and Iguodala has sat out the past two games with one. The rest of the roster is unbalanced. They are up against the most formidable opponent they’ve seen since Durant arrived — albeit one that, because of Chris Paul’s hamstring injury in the final minute of Game 5, may be compromised for the remainder of this series.

But Kerr also left out one key element: This core group has not been through everything together. Yes, that counts for most of the Warriors — himself, Curry, Green, Thompson, Iguodala, Shaun Livingston. But it doesn’t count for Durant — not with this team, not playing this way.

As the past two games have gone down to the wire, Durant has gone back to his old ways, and the Warriors have allowed him to do it. Doing so has short-circuited their offense, and robbed Golden State of what made it special to begin with.

To win this series, that needs to change now. As Kerr said, that trust in the team from everyone, beginning with Durant, needs to return. If it doesn’t, what was supposed to be a coronation, a second straight title and the third in four years, will instead result in an exit from the postseason the Warriors never saw coming.


"Trust these guys"?

Nigga they were a 73 win championship team before he got there!
They should be worried about "Trusting" him!
 
The Cavs should possibly be the ones up 3-2,but turnovers have plaque this team in game 2 and 5. I don't understand,why this team turnover the ball so much. Most of the turnovers are from bullshit plays like throwing the ball to the Celtics or throwing the ball out of bounds.

And,then you have a coach the refuse to play players like Nance,who brings energy to the team. I'm so sick of this god dayum coach....:smh::smh::smh:


If,the Cavs lose the blame should be on the coach.


Kyle was banged up for the 1st quarter last game?

Man to be honest I'd run plays and set tht I'd have to sub within five minutes....that how aggressive I'd be with this squad....

How the fuck you have 1st, 2nd and 3rd yr players getting this kinda of burn(the chance to mess up) but you ain't even given your semi-vets 6minutes to correct their fuck ups
 
What do y'all think gonna happen?

Years of History say Lebron have a amazing game and Cavs win.

The series point to Cavs bouncing back and winning...


My thoughts have it being the last game of the Eastern Conference, despite a epic game from Bron Bron....
 
Kyle was banged up for the 1st quarter last game?

Man to be honest I'd run plays and set tht I'd have to sub within five minutes....that how aggressive I'd be with this squad....

How the fuck you have 1st, 2nd and 3rd yr players getting this kinda of burn(the chance to mess up) but you ain't even given your semi-vets 6minutes to correct their fuck ups


Like I said after the last game nobody wasn't even looking at Korver. He was super wide open and wide open by his standards and they didn't even look at him. He's played better than the guy that's supposed to be the second option on the team.
What do y'all think gonna happen?

Years of History say Lebron have a amazing game and Cavs win.

The series point to Cavs bouncing back and winning...


My thoughts have it being the last game of the Eastern Conference, despite a epic game from Bron Bron....

LeBron had a great game in game 2,but didn't get any help from nobody outside of Korver. And,they still loss.

Hill needs to play aggressive instead of playing passive.
 
Like I said after the last game nobody wasn't even looking at Korver. He was super wide open and wide open by his standards and they didn't even look at him. He's played better than the guy that's supposed to be the second option on the team.


LeBron had a great game in game 2,but didn't get any help from nobody outside of Korver. And,they still loss.

Hill needs to play aggressive instead of playing passive.



What's up with the 1/5 pick&troll with Hill and Love

Lebron playing making is getting tested with the way Boston clog the lanes and help...

He's stubbornness to running motion is coming back to bite him here...
 
LeBron James flips elimination-game game on its head
By Dan FeldmanMay 25, 2018, 2:35 PM EDT
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AP Photo/Charles Krupa

His Cavaliers down 3-2 to the Celtics in the Eastern Conference finals, how does LeBron James assess his situation?

"I don’t enjoy being in the position where it’s you lose and go home," LeBron saidbefore Game 6 tonight in Cleveland.

He might not enjoy this position, but he’s pretty good in it.

Since he first reached the playoffs in 2006, other teams have won 26% of their elimination games. LeBron’s teams have won 57% of theirs.

Of course, LeBron hasn’t gone 12-9 in elimination games just because he’s lucky. He has willed his team off the mat numerous times.

LeBron has scored 40 points and/or had a triple-double in six straight elimination games, winning five of them. His line in his last elimination game before that streak? Just 32 points, 18 rebounds and nine assists.

A full history of LeBron’s elimination games:



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Wow
 
Man, this Limoncello cheesecake from The Cheescake Factory is delicious! Happy Birthday to me. Ya boy turned 34 today.

I’m a simple kat, so I’m chilling at the crib watching the game tonight. Just happy to see another year on this earth. Wifey got me an Apple Watch and spend part of my day building this shed.

:cheers:
 
So when you're up double digits

You know your star player has a history with cramps and getting tired at the end of games

What do you do...play him the whole first half
 
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