Why Black Men ARE REFUSING to Play Step DADDY!

I wholeheartedly agree. Not my kid not my problem. Some men can do it, Not me.

As someone said, being a stepdad is like being asked to clean up after a party you weren't invited to. If it's a package deal, I don't want that package.

The woman I'm dating right now it's 29, I'm 41, and neither one of us have any kids. After using condoms for the past month-and-a-half she just went on the patch... Tapping that ass Raw tonight.

These bitches running around not using birth control and not giving a fuck about the consequences. A very high percentage of them aren't even getting child support from their child's father. A high percentage of them have multiple kids by multiple guys.

Now, after one or two fuck ups with proof, oh, now they want a good man. Now they want me. My good government job, my 2500 sqft 4 bedroom, 2.5 bath house in the suburbs on 0.6 acres of land.

Bitch please.

Your child's father doesn't even come pick up the kid, so on top of not getting child support from the piece of shit, your kids are there 427 days a year. I get no break from them and no time alone with you.

These little motherfuckers want to come sleep in your bed. How am I supposed to get some pussy?

I will not fuck with a single mom I don't care how either the pussy is. I don't want them in the car, I don't pick them up at a bar. I don't talk to them on a bus. I don't want them anywhere near us.

I do not like them Sam-I-Am. I don't date no single mam
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i was reading that like .. this sounds like Dr. seuuu..LMAO!!!!

...and be careful my dude
 
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Peace,



Damn. :smh:

That’s some callous shit. It’s obviously a lot more complicated than that. These are children, not discarded party favors.

Women are in relationships before you meet them. Some of them produce children as a result of being in those relationships. A lot of cats get women pregnant then (for whatever reason) split, leaving women to bear the burden of raising kids that a lot of those dudes emotionally and physically abandon.

Driven in large part by the same callousness exhibited in your post, a lot of brothers only want to blame the women but don’t want to take responsibility for the critical part that men play in these situations.
Peace

Are u a step dad?
 
agree and this shyt isn't healthy for the mind. Shyt needs to stop, getting on youtube and talking mess about women all day, this bro shyt has to go.
Yep.
But these dudes here can't see this.
Or rather...
They agree with them and hate women (and Black women in particular).
Like agreeing with what's said in one video made by this asshole erases a whole LIBRARY of videos he's made over the years full of verbal hate, abuse and hostility directed at Black women... :hmm:
GTFOHWTBS... :mad:
 
Yeah... But... I ain't go no damn kids... You know how much will power you gotta have to pull out, even if she's on BC??? I went above and beyond to make sure I didn't have any damn kids... So... Yeah, I can talk shit, cause I'm not responsible for another dudes kids that stayed busting in chick's raw... Now I'm supposed to raise them fuckers??? For who??? For what??? Why I gotta let them cheat off my paper to pass, when them ninjas were the ones that didn't study???...

I'm not talking about ALL BLACK WOMEN... Just the single mom's that have the expectation of another dude "maning up" and taking care of her kids. What kind of Jedi mind shit you trying to pull here???
:yes::yes::yes::yes::yes::yes::yes::yes::yes::yes::yes::yes::yes::yes::yes::yes::yes: Exactly. Seems when a black man has sex responsibly he still gets guilt tripped into cleaning up someone else's mess. Some of these women should just say "thank you for being responsible with your shit. I wish I had done the same". They would get a lot more respect from me if they did.
 
Another thread about knocking black women.

I thank God I never had this issue, but who's leaving these black women with this kids that supposedly need a step-dad??? Black MEN.

It's times like this I hate yall because we keep shifting blame when some of you very niggas that take this stance are the ones that left or deny your own and kids are not taking care of what you left behind. Do your part and no one would have to STEP in.
So true. The thing is gotta stop placing blame on each other. If both parties did their job to begin with it wouldn't be an issue.
 
i did it... but I GET IT

it's not for everyone

i raised a daughter that wasn't mine... even after me and her mom divorced....hell when i left i took my kids AND my stepdaughter..
I married a woman with boys 7 and 11. Their father didn't abandon them. It just worked out that he and their mother couldn't be married to each other. We fish, camp and talk shit together. That was 9 years ago. Their pops has never missed a visit unless he and their mom decide to switch days..... He is a football ref on the side, so he asked me to coach the youngest one's pee wee football team with him so when he was traveling to ref, I would be there......

Just grown up folk, being grown up....

And although I would never wish divorce on anyone, SINCE he takes his boys for EVERY visitation, plus Monday and Wednesday, me and the wife have free time for date night EVERY other weekend and during the week. It is a helluva a break for parents who NEVER get a break....

Shit, camping in the RV when we got the boy and traveling on weekends when we don't....
Y'all are two honorable dudes who got very lucky. YaBoi, hell, I've known many a guy who has been banned from ever seeing their stepkids even though they were with the mother many years. Judges don't give a fuck. You aren't blood related so you got no rights

ZuluSam, again, lucky dude. So many times the father is out of sight/mind/& pocket (no child support), so on top of having to financially struggle, you never get a break where is it just you and her. You didn't have to do with that situation and you are in a good place with a father and that's dope.

I know I'm pre-judging the situations but rather than take the chance at a bad one I'd rather not, and I do this by only dating women with the same number of kids as I have.
 
Another thread about knocking black women.

I thank God I never had this issue, but who's leaving these black women with this kids that supposedly need a step-dad??? Black MEN.

It's times like this I hate yall because we keep shifting blame when some of you very niggas that take this stance are the ones that left or deny your own and kids are not taking care of what you left behind. Do your part and no one would have to STEP in.

Honestly fellas this goes both ways. Women don’t get pregnant by themselves. If men can go on to find love after having a child a female should have the same rights as well

i have said this before. its a vicious cycle of hurt. WOMEN have the final say in who they choose to fuck. They out here making garbage ass choice in men, and then get upset when the dude turns out to be garbage. WOMEN have to be smart about who they decide to have children with ...smart choices = most times dad's looking to care for their child. no decent man worth a dam wants to see his child suffer. WOMEN have the all the choices in the legal system when it comes to abortion and are heavily favored in the courts when it comes to the welfare of the child.
having said that...
Men have to be more cautious about where they stick their raw dick. you know a hood rat when you fuck one. if this bitch got 3 kids by 3 different dudes, then wtf make you think she aint going to be an easy lay and she not going to get pregnant by you and have your ugly baby. dont complain about laying up with boo and then when boo get knocked up, you dont know who boo is or how it happened.

we all have to be responsible adults bc we have be granted by the creator with the power of demi-gods....each beholding half of the power to create life. thats heavy responsibility and not be taken lightly but adults on both sides want to play and not pay. i seen fucked up situations on both sides.

i got one adopted sister who is a deep chocolate beautiful and smart but has lousy taste in men. cant pick a good one to save her life, but she wont listen to me or my brother and bring these garbage ass dudes around...well finally she got her shit together and met a murse working in her field. i met the dude, and knew he was a instant winner. No kids of his own and willing to marry her and be a step dad.....that relationship lasted less than a half a year...why you ask? bc he was boring. all he did was work, go to school and stay at home with her....now mind you, she was staying in his house, driving his 2 old ass paid for cars, and eating off his table in addition to her job. i told her to marry that mofo before he change his mind....but did ms prideful, hard head, listen...nope. she jumped ship with another garbage ass dude, and left him.
2 years later homie finishes his Nurse anethestician program and is making bank!!!!! she see him rolling now, single, no kids, and bitches in pursuit like the police chasing OJ. I told her dude was a good bet, even though he seemed scattered at times, brother was hungry and focused!!!!!he achieved his goal and now he reaping the rewards. I didnt know at the time that scattered = working his ass off going to school, working full time, studying, and basically busy every second of the day.

i swear feminism got females head fucked up. that strong proud independent shit is what got our sisters out here fucked up. i remember when one of the weddings i went the presiding minister said a womans love is in her obedience to her husband and honor to her family.
a good black woman who got a good black man can bring the god out of a man and vice versa.....but we so caught up on the superficial, money , clothes, cars etc, that we cant even see into the metaphysical person. both sides got work to do but the IMHO the reason women catch so much hell is bc they usually bear the most weight in the creation and raising of a child WHICH IS WHY THEY HAVE TO CHOOSE BETTER, DO BETTER AND BE SMARTER IN THE DECISION OF PROCREATION. dont complain about tyrone when you know tyrone dont wanna be a daddy then get mad when malik who you turned down, would have been a great father.
some people say its genetics and women are hard wired to be with the alpha of the species for procreation (alpha fucks, beta bucks theory) but if thats the case; all it really does say is women are designed to fuck up in civilized society and cant use their heads to make smart choices for long term mates. and neither can men bc all we want is a phat ass and a smile.
 
i have said this before. its a vicious cycle of hurt. WOMEN have the final say in who they choose to fuck. They out here making garbage ass choice in men, and then get upset when the dude turns out to be garbage. WOMEN have to be smart about who they decide to have children with ...smart choices = most times dad's looking to care for their child. no decent man worth a dam wants to see his child suffer. WOMEN have the all the choices in the legal system when it comes to abortion and are heavily favored in the courts when it comes to the welfare of the child.
having said that...
You may have said some decent stuff but I pretty much stopped after this that paragraph because you still playing the blame game...

I digress I just thank God I didn't have to deal with no one like most of y'all.
 
You may have said some decent stuff but I pretty much stopped after this that paragraph because you still playing the blame game...

I digress I just thank God I didn't have to deal with no one like most of y'all.

So he lost you when it came to women being responsible and accountable for their actions?


Well on behalf of the cats on here THANK GOD we don't have to deal with anyone like you.

*two cents*
 
Being a great father is a choice and whether the child is biological yours is irrelevant. A great man will always be a leader in his household and community

I don’t agree with the blame game because both parties are equally responsible for their decisions. Truth is that there are more single mothers holding it down than are men
 
So he lost you when it came to women being responsible and accountable for their actions?


Well on behalf of the cats on here THANK GOD we don't have to deal with anyone like you.

*two cents*
Again I never had to look for anyone to play that role to mine. When we divorced he did his part. I had a strong large village.

And yet again, these women didn't impregnate themselves.

Regardless of what other comment you may have I'm done with this conversation.
 
Another thread about knocking black women.

I thank God I never had this issue, but who's leaving these black women with this kids that supposedly need a step-dad??? Black MEN.

It's times like this I hate yall because we keep shifting blame when some of you very niggas that take this stance are the ones that left or deny your own and kids are not taking care of what you left behind. Do your part and no one would have to STEP in.
This ain't blame, but women have got to be more careful about who they lay up with. It's always the same shit, "he got a big dick" "he can fuck" a bunch of superficial bullshit and nothing to do with his sketchy character or the the fact that he has at least two kids by at least two baby mamas.

Black women, you need to learn how to cut them niggas off. More than one kid? NO SOUP FOR YOU (No pussy). You ain't paying no child support? I'm not even fucking you.

But y'all don't. A lot of Black men ain't shit because Black women don't demand that they be shit. You know when many of y'all start demanding? AFTER you got a kid or two by a dude who ain't shit, and never was shit since you met him...BUT, he could fuck, so you kept him around til the mistake baby happened (I mean, not calling a kid a mistake, but unless you got pregnant on purpose... mistake).

Now you want a man who wasn't a man in the first place to step up and be a man?

Demand shit like I demand shit on jump:

1: Have a job making at least $20/he (I'm making $25, so you got to come close. I don't fuck no minimum wage bitches because I might accidentally get them pregnant and be their meal ticket

2: Have your own place. Even if you have a roommate, people who have their own place understand the value of a dollar. If you live with your parents you don't understand what a dollar means and I can't fuck with you AND you're homeless, so you're going to be looking to move in QUICK to get off from under your mom's roof.

3: No kids. IDGAF what the situation is, your babies are YOUR problem, not mine.

4: Have a good attitude. Whatever happened before me ain't my fault. Smile. Give me a chance

5: Debt - If your debt outside of college debt is even close to 6 figures - bye Felicia. You don't know how to manage money and I ain't trying to fuck my shit up

6: I love good head, good pussy, but there are many more things that are more important

I think like this: I am asking for a cosigner on a $500,000 house. I'm not trying to be stuck with paying for this bitch all by myself, especially considering this person could leave at any time.

And that's how women need to look at men when they hook up with them. They don't, which is why we have so many single mothers.

Does it suck that it seems that I'm holding women accountable for the screw-ups of men? Yes it does. But a man will get away with women allow him to get away with. And since they are the one stuck with raising the kid all by themselves they should be more careful about the men they lay up with. AND if they demanded more of these men, these men would do better or do without pussy
 
Again I never had to look for anyone to play that role to mine. When we divorced he did his part. I had a strong large village.

And yet again, these women didn't impregnate themselves.

Regardless of what other comment you may have I'm done with this conversation.

The burden of pregnancy and children is on the WOMEN.

So says OUR LEGAL SYSTEM....

So says HISTORY...

So say fucking BIOLOGY...

PERIOD. To say otherwise is ludicrous.

"These women aren't impregnating themselves..."

Well no shit. WERE THEY RAPED? Cause if not then she bent over and CHOOSE to let dude fuck her and then CHOOSE to take the baby to term. She also- unfortunately for her- CHOOSE a man who didn't stay and/or take care of his responisibility as a father.

Three LIFE CHANGING CHOICES SHE MADE....

Why should that be another man's problem?

It's not a man's duty to raise another man's seed.

It is his CHOICE. Nothing more.

Women who have to go that route are going to have to realize that their pickings are slim because most men are not going to go the 'instant family' path. It takes a hell of a man who CHOOSES to take that on. I salute said man.

I'm not going to curse other men who CHOOSE not to take that on.

*two cents*
 
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Apparently Black men don't want to be Dads at all if it's so many Black women left with children on their own. Is that what y'all are acknowledging?
I think what some guys are arguing is that black women should bare the responsibility for the men they choose. If a woman chooses to have UNPROTECTED (usually pre-marital) SEX WITH A NO-ACCOUNT PIECE OF SHIT OF A MAN, (many of them doing it over and over again) then why does she bear no responsibility for a multi-tiered stack of bad decisions? I think they make a great point!
 
I think what some guys are arguing is that black women should bare the responsibility for the men they choose. If a woman chooses to have UNPROTECTED (usually pre-marital) SEX WITH A NO-ACCOUNT PIECE OF SHIT OF A MAN, (many of them doing it over and over again) then why does she bear no responsibility for a multi-tiered stack of bad decisions? I think they make a great point!


That's not the case in every situation. There's also plenty of men who have everything together who then walk away once the chick gets pregnant, there's so-called "good men" doing the same shit as ones you'd expect to do it. So no try again.
 
Y'all are two honorable dudes who got very lucky. YaBoi, hell, I've known many a guy who has been banned from ever seeing their stepkids even though they were with the mother many years. Judges don't give a fuck. You aren't blood related so you got no rights

ZuluSam, again, lucky dude. So many times the father is out of sight/mind/& pocket (no child support), so on top of having to financially struggle, you never get a break where is it just you and her. You didn't have to do with that situation and you are in a good place with a father and that's dope.

I know I'm pre-judging the situations but rather than take the chance at a bad one I'd rather not, and I do this by only dating women with the same number of kids as I have.
luckily I've never been before a judge in my life

but like i said.. i get it...
 
Apparently Black men don't want to be Dads at all if it's so many Black women left with children on their own. Is that what y'all are acknowledging?

Are these women being raped???

If not, CHOOSE BETTER LADIES.

There are a lot of black women out here who DON'T have this single parent problem. What did they do??? Emulate THAT.


I think what some guys are arguing is that black women should bare the responsibility for the men they choose. If a woman chooses to have UNPROTECTED (usually pre-marital) SEX WITH A NO-ACCOUNT PIECE OF SHIT OF A MAN, (many of them doing it over and over again) then why does she bear no responsibility for a multi-tiered stack of bad decisions? I think they make a great point!

We are making a great point. Only one point. That only point is....




*drum roll*

CHOICE.

One party made a choice and the other party is making one based off of it.

This shit ain't rocket science.

*two cents*
 
That's not the case in every situation. There's also plenty of men who have everything together who then walk away once the chick gets pregnant, there's so-called "good men" doing the same shit as ones you'd expect to do it. So no try again.
And even in those rare cases ..... doesn't a man have the right to say "I want nothing to do with her and her kids"??? Cause that's all the video is really suggesting is that good men can and should leave them alone. And that's any man's right to pick who he wants to be bothered with. Are you suggesting it's not?
 
That's not the case in every situation. There's also plenty of men who have everything together who then walk away once the chick gets pregnant, there's so-called "good men" doing the same shit as ones you'd expect to do it. So no try again.

Those men aren't "GOOD MEN" they just have everything together on paper.

What if a man said to you, "Well...I thought she was a good woman because she was fine than a mothetfucker" as an excuse for getting caught up?

YOU WOULD CALL HIM A FOOL AND LAUGH IN HIS FUCKING FACE!

And he'd deserve it.

CHARACTER MATTERS. 'Ballin' ain't enough when it comes to building a family. Neither is big tits and a phat ass.

CHOOSE BETTER LADIES. If between my legs held the vault to create another life I'm seriously vetting ANYONE I let go up in it raw.

WOULDN'T YOU???

This shit ain't rocket science.

*two cents*
 
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It was tough at times but I don't regret being a step dad. My son and I have a much better relationship than he does with his biological. There's a difference between being with a woman who had a failed relationship/marriage and a hood rat with multiple baby daddies.

Been there, done it, kids buy ( # 1 dad ) t-shirts ..... No ex drama, cause I don't play .....
 
I just met a cutie with a 3yo and my youngest is 17... Decisions decisions. Ain't had the convo yet but why not step up and raise young Barack?
 
Bitches act like we owe them this. Painted it like we see less of a man for refusing to. It all spins the blame our way. Oh so you aren't strong enough to raise a child??? No, it isn't mine! The day must come where men force women to own their circumstances. For any man to think his options are limited if he avoids weave, kids, attitude and tattoos, you need to step your perception of yourself.

100
 
Its women duping themselves to have kids recklessly. If the couple was married, no fault on her. If that shit was really on the man, meaning dudes can be reckless with sperm, who has the ultimate decision to keep the fetus?

You stay using faith not logic to keep a child, let that faith carry you eighteen years more.

You need hooker training because they deal with fucking strange men all day. They ain't holding shit.

You stay privileged: in 3rd world countries, single mother is a euphemism for prostitute. And they're bitter and fucking strange men all day. Damn.

I DON'T blame women as much as I blame the fairy tales they're conditioned to believing.

You'll find your prince, you stay Cinderelling with tadpoles with low life arrogant toads. Not listening to the man telling you not to keep it is what your stubborn ass with the mistakes does.

Go read up on Google about Pinays ending up with half Koreans because they thought they had a prince. Stop falling for dummies.
 
Folks need to read "How a female eagle chooses a mate" by the Elders of the Wintu tribe

Can you paraphrase it?
colin.jpg

Not to be Colin Powell, but I'm not reading a whole book in order to understand a point you could just type right here mayne.....


*two cents*
 
Yo dudes, if broads don't wanna listen, fuck it. No, really, fuck it. When the child pop out, placenta and all, have a freshly groomed hobo sign that birth certificate for a weeks worth of booze. Fuck a DNA test, she can chase the bum for a check.
 
I know women fuck up, we all know that, we know it's niggas like me who never where considered cool and life long broke niggas getting right at a older age but th youtube bro shyt is the most lamest shyt ever. I know dudes out there hurting, no hoes, feeling like shyt, seeing people get hooked up, suffering alone but these youtube niggas just driving niggas over the edge. The constant black women bashing, constant complaining, 24/7 deep thought about how messed up black women are, constantly putting black women down because your homeboy does it,

It's childish and lame and no grown man with any money in his pocket should associate with any of these dudes....

On the flip side, we know females do dirtdog shyt, we know women have the ability to go in and out of social circles, we know all that. We know they can do shyt we can't, we know all that stuff but not all women are the same, some good black women out there, you may have to move states, change social circles, change how you dress but don't give up and don't let these youtube hustlers get your mind on that bullcrap.

A dude told me yesterday some real stuff, he said know you got the rise of the intellectual racist now, the Sam Harris, Jordan Peterson, Ben Shapiro. The David Duke model is dead, no rednecks calling me N anymore, know it's the school professor with a room full of coons scared to lose tuition to school, he's the racist or he's the one putting this stuff in people's head.

Everybody wanna be the voice of reason now, people's mind all messed up from all this stuff.
 
I know women fuck up, we all know that, we know it's niggas like me who never where considered cool and life long broke niggas getting right at a older age but th youtube bro shyt is the most lamest shyt ever. I know dudes out there hurting, no hoes, feeling like shyt, seeing people get hooked up, suffering alone but these youtube niggas just driving niggas over the edge. The constant black women bashing, constant complaining, 24/7 deep thought about how messed up black women are, constantly putting black women down because your homeboy does it,

It's childish and lame and no grown man with any money in his pocket should associate with any of these dudes....

On the flip side, we know females do dirtdog shyt, we know women have the ability to go in and out of social circles, we know all that. We know they can do shyt we can't, we know all that stuff but not all women are the same, some good black women out there, you may have to move states, change social circles, change how you dress but don't give up and don't let these youtube hustlers get your mind on that bullcrap.

A dude told me yesterday some real stuff, he said know you got the rise of the intellectual racist now, the Sam Harris, Jordan Peterson, Ben Shapiro. The David Duke model is dead, no rednecks calling me N anymore, know it's the school professor with a room full of coons scared to lose tuition to school, he's the racist or he's the one putting this stuff in people's head.

Everybody wanna be the voice of reason now, people's mind all messed up from all this stuff.


That's all to the good but what does that have to do with a man who has options exercising them- which ultimately was the premise of the thread?

*two cents*
 
That's all to the good but what does that have to do with a man who has options exercising them- which ultimately was the premise of the thread?

*two cents*

If a man had options like that he wouldn't be all up in this thread complaining, he'd be with one of his options.

If a man had options he ain't worrying over this matter since it don't concern him cuz hes smart enough to know how to deal with women.
 
I’m not sure why two different issues here are being conflated. I don’t see anyone here saying men who get women pregnant are excused from their parental responsibilities.

The point is that a single man with no children shouldn’t feel guilted into taking on another man’s responsibility. Now if he happens to fall In love with her and he’s happy to raise a child that isn’t biologically his, then props to him.

But this narrative that men should “step up” and take on another man’s child is nonsense. Now if you’re a man that already has children, then you can’t have the audacity to say you only date women with no children.

As @Naha-Nago said, my debt shouldn’t be someone else’s responsibility. Now if you want to help me with my debt, then that’s great. If not, I won’t begrudge for not taking on my “burden.”
 
Uh.....

No.

No person should be guilt tripped into taking on a responsibility he had no business in creating.

That's all this is. A person exercising their options.

I have no problem with a man taking on a 'no children' policy just like I have no problem with a woman taking on a height/occupation/money/appearance policies.

This is really about one party getting butt hurt because the other party has options and are exercising them.

Is it not?

*two cents*

Brutally true. Some people want to judge but each person has their own reasons for or against it. Me personally? I look at it with an open mind knowing my mom was a single mom with 5. 5. Imagine that. Man it's a wonder she found anyone because i can tell you, we was some bad ass children! Good but bad too. Flash forward to me in present. I look at and judge every aspect of how the woman is, how her kids are raised. I have one who is superfine with 3 girls. Ages 15, 19, 10. We just cool now but man, that mf is making me think hard. That shit makes my knees weak but girl is fine too and makes good money. She also super cool. Me and new babymoms called it quits. I also accepted her 16 year old and honestly she is a good kid. Her dad is ok, not really financially stable but he's involved with her and she loves her dad. It was her mom and her bullshit with me that ended the relationship. We both financially good.

Then I have the doctor I dated for a min two years ago. She is childless but wants two. Wants to reconnect. I'm ok with that too because obviously I like fucking pain but I don't mind being a father in this new stage of my life as i can afford it and I have time.

In the past, I've dated women that had babies by bums. For real. As soon as they knew I was in the picture they made it hard. So hard I almost went to jail for some bullshit. That baby moms thought that shit was funny. I wish i could see her now, I'd crack a 40 oz bottle across her fucking head. Bitch was evil.

Another girl I dated had three by three different dudes. I tried and ol girl was nice but after almost killing each of her 3 children's fathers it was too much for me and I had to let her go because I don't want to lose my shit over their dumbasses. Them mf was bums too and I was still in the military at the time. Shit was surreal. One dude used to catch the fucking bus all damn day just to show up and raise sand. I had to bounce. Said here she is playa, she allllllll yours son!

In conclusion, there are lots of good women and dudes with seeds but I think it's the extra bullshit that runs us away and off. Nobody wants to deal with unnecessary drama man. Grow the fuck up.
 
Stick with your own kind. Because I never got caught slippin', I was only interested in women who also had no kids. Some dudes don't have the options others have. They can be the step daddy.

And why is there another entreprenegro-type article blasting Black men?!? Like white men are any different...
 
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