Facebook is facing an existential crisis ... been trying to warn kats about Facebook for a Year Now

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Facebook is facing an existential crisis.
The Cambridge Analytica scandal has done immense damage to the brand, sources across the company believe. It will now take a Herculean effort to restore public trust in Facebook's commitment to privacy and data protection, they said. Outside observers think regulation has suddenly become more likely, and yet CEO Mark Zuckerberg appears missing in action.

The scandal also highlights a problem that is built into the company's DNA: Its business is data exploitation. Facebook makes money by, among other things, harvesting your data and selling it to app developers and advertisers. Preventing those buyers from passing that data to third parties with ulterior motives may ultimately be impossible.

Indeed, the most alarming aspect of Cambridge Analytica's "breach" is that it wasn't a breach at all. It happened almost entirely above board and in line with Facebook policy.

Aleksandr Kogan, a University of Cambridge professor, accessed the data of more than 50 million Facebook users simply by creating a survey filled out by 270,000 people. Facebook provided Kogan with the data of anyone who took the survey, as well as their friends' data. In a statement, Facebook said, "Kogan gained access to this information in a legitimate way and through the proper channels that governed all developers on Facebook at that time."

The one rule Kogan violated, according to Facebook, was passing the user data to third parties, including Cambridge Analytica, the political data firm founded by former Trump aide Steve Bannon and conservative donor Robert Mercer.

But even Facebook sources acknowledged to CNN that it is impossible to completely monitor what developers and advertisers do with the data once it's in their hands. It's like selling cigarettes to someone and telling them not to share the cigarettes with their friends.

The limits of Facebook's ability to enforce compliance with data usage was highlighted by Facebook's own response to Kogan's violation. Facebook says it learned of Kogan's violation in 2015 and was subsequently assured by all parties that the data had been destroyed. But Facebook also says it learned just days ago that "not all data was deleted."

In a statement, Facebook deputy general counsel Paul Grewal said "protecting people's information is at the heart of everything we do." That may be a hard argument for the public to accept given that Facebook's business is providing people's information to outside parties whose ultimate goals are unknowable.


Facebook says that starting in 2014 it gave users greater control over what parts of their information are shared with app developers and advertisers. It also says it has enhanced its app review process to require developers "to justify the data they're looking to collect and how they're going to use it — before they're allowed to even ask people for it."

Still, the sources inside Facebook acknowledge that such measures cannot guarantee that some people won't succeed in mining Facebook data and passing it off to third parties.


On Capitol Hill, the talk of regulation is growing louder. Lawmakers seeking tighter restrictions on big tech feel even more emboldened than they did in the wake of revelations about Russian meddling in the 2016 election, a source on Capitol Hill told CNN.

Democratic Senator Amy Klobuchar has called on Zuckerberg to appear before the Senate Judiciary Committee, on which she serves, to explain "what Facebook knew about misusing data from 50 million Americans in order to target political advertising and manipulate voters."

Meanwhile, Zuckerberg and the rest of the Facebook leadership seem conspicuously absent. Neither the Facebook CEO nor his top deputy, Sheryl Sandberg, have commented publicly on the matter. They have left that task to Grewal, a lawyer. No one has provided an adequate explanation for why Facebook did not disclose Kogan's violation to the more than 50 million users who were affected when the company first learned about it in 2015.

"We are conducting a comprehensive internal and external review and are working to determine the accuracy of the claims that the Facebook data in question still exists. That is where our focus lies as we remain committed to vigorously enforcing our policies to protect people's information," Grewal said in a statement Sunday.

All of this comes as Facebook is already getting questions about the long-term appeal of its platform, at least in the United States. The number of daily active users in the United States — a whopping 184 million — declined for the first time last quarter. Facebook also lost 2.8 million users under the age of 25 last year, and is set to lose another 2 million this year, according to eMarketer.

The Cambridge Analytica scandal is likely to hasten user disenchantment with the network, sources inside Facebook acknowledged. Facebook is increasingly being seen as a platform vulnerable to manipulation by political groups, foreign governments, or worse.

Ultimately, however, the real culprit in the eyes of the American public may not be Cambridge Analytica or the Russians, but rather Facebook itself.

http://money.cnn.com/2018/03/19/technology/business/facebook-data-privacy-crisis/index.html
 
The irony is that regulating the market always security the position of the monopoly player. Penalizing facebook will end up helping them. And they're going to get regulated.

and FB ain't shit for how they handled this

Personally I think we are watching the slow end of Facebook. Even before this breach the platform was in trouble... It is trying to do too much for everyone and grew to large. Because of its growth it's had to sell it's soul through advertising and data sales.

I've already seen this game before and it did not end well..

Myspace 2.0
 
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Personally I think we are watching the slow end of Facebook. Even before this breach the platform was in trouble... It is trying to do too much for everyone and grew to large. Because of it's growth it's had to sell it's soul through advertising and data sales.

I've already seen this game before and it did not end well..

Myspace 2.0

Naw. It's not Myspace.

And Facebook is way more than just FB. With Whatsapp, Instagram, etc their reach is ridiculous.

But I do agree that Facebook sucks... but they're the new Microsoft. They're not going anywhere... but when the next paradigm shift hits, they'll be vulnerable just like all incumbents are.
 
Facebook jumped the shark and seems to be the repository for the 35-60 year old crowd (more leaning to 45-60 year olds) to post random statuses and other bullshit for “likes” and accolades. I mean, one pic of your kid; cool; the whole photo album of your spring break trip; eh.

FB jumped the shark with me some time ago.
 
Personally I think we are watching the slow end of Facebook. Even before this breach the platform was in trouble... It is trying to do too much for everyone and grew to large. Because of it's growth it's had to sell it's soul through advertising and data sales.

I've already seen this game before and it did not end well..

Myspace 2.0

Nothing like Myspace.

Americans don't value privacy or the protection of data the way that we should so FB's business will continue.

Possible government oversight but that is it at most.

No one is even talking about this issue because once again, we as Americans don't care about who has our data.
 
Facebook jumped the shark and seems to be the repository for the 35-60 year old crowd (more leaning to 45-60 year olds) to post random statuses and other bullshit for “likes” and accolades. I mean, one pic of your kid; cool; the whole photo album of your spring break trip; eh.

FB jumped the shark with me some time ago.

That's why owning Whatsapp and IG is so important. They've pretty much got the entire market covered... but yeah... the younger crowd is not really fucking with FB.
 
Nothing like Myspace.

Americans don't value privacy or the protection of data the way that we should so FB's business will continue.

Possible government oversight but that is it at most.

No one is even talking about this issue because once again, we as Americans don't care about who has our data.

Americans are now addicted to attention. Facebook will be fine.
 
Part of the problem is that we (speaking as an American) aren't taught the ramifications of freely giving away our data to companies we know nothing about.

People can't see the potential problems that we will run into 10 years down the road when someone has your entire life archived.

I personally think that those TBT are ways to collect biometric data from when users were younger.

There will come a day when biometric data will be used as some form of authentication. That data is being given away for free to these companies.
 
Nothing like Myspace.

Americans don't value privacy or the protection of data the way that we should so FB's business will continue.

Possible government oversight but that is it at most.

No one is even talking about this issue because once again, we as Americans don't care about who has our data.

Actually it is... Did you not see the part about the slow decline in membership.

"All of this comes as Facebook is already getting questions about the long-term appeal of its platform, at least in the United States. The number of daily active users in the United States — a whopping 184 million — declined for the first time last quarter. Facebook also lost 2.8 million users under the age of 25 last year, and is set to lose another 2 million this year, according to eMarketer."

All it takes is another upstart platform..... that comes out promising to simplify the process...

This is almost exactly how Facebook took the juice from Myspace.... Myspace's profile page got bloated with Ads and other shit. They were trying TV and Music.. and the shit got slow. Anyone could create a myspace page... so kats started getting hit with Spam profiles.

Facebook came in with this exclusive membership promise and a simplified page like Google. It didn't have ads.

But when you look at it now.. Yes it is more Profitable then Myspace ever was, but it's starting to make the same mistakes.

Remember when Yahoo was the Top banana in searches, but started to add so much to the user experience that it became burdensome to use... and then Google came in with this slick and simplified User page.

The brilliance of Google is that even though they do basically the same thing as facebook with the data mining... they wisely found other ways to profit and continued to maintain their slick User page...
 
Part of the problem is that we (speaking as an American) aren't taught the ramifications of freely giving away our data to companies we know nothing about.

People can't see the potential problems that we will run into 10 years down the road when someone has your entire life archived.

I personally think that those TBT are ways to collect biometric data from when users were younger.

There will come a day when biometric data will be used as some form of authentication. That data is being given away for free to these companies.

None of these companies have the complete picture though. Each has a small chunk that doesn't mean much unless they're all brought together. This seldom happens because they're all in competition with each other. Microsoft has no incentive to share your data with Facebook which has no incentive to share with Android etc.

That said, the basic rule with any social media is "don't share anything you wouldn't want your boss to see." (Customers if you're self employed).
 
ummmm...

yall acting like these chickens on FB actually care about any of this.

this shit will blow over and FB will be business as usual.

as a matter of fact 99% of FB users either won't care or won't even hear about this.

So I take it that you also missed the part about FB slowly losing members.
 
So I take it that you also missed the part about FB slowly losing members.

yeah, kinda like M$ losing windows share or AMD getting a faster processor than Intel.

M$ is still doing fine and Intel is losing no sleep. FB is not concerned.
 
“THIS IS SERIOUS”: FACEBOOK BEGINS ITS DOWNWARD SPIRAL
Facebook was always famous for the sign that hung in its offices, written in big red type on a white background, that said “Move Fast and Break Things.” Every time I think about the company, I realize it has done just that—to itself.


Years ago, long before Mark Zuckerberg became Mark Zuckerberg, the young founder reached out to a friend of mine who had also started a company, albeit a considerably smaller one, in the social-media space, and suggested they get together. As Facebook has grown into a global colossus that connects about a third of the globe, Zuckerberg has subsequently assumed a reputation as an aloof megalomaniac deeply out of touch with the people who use his product. But back then, when he only had 100 million users on his platform, he wasn’t perceived that way. When he reached out to my friend, Zuckerberg was solicitous. He made overtures that suggested a possible acquisition—and once rebuffed, returned with the notion that perhaps Facebook could at least partner with my friend’s company. The chief of the little start-up was excited by the seemingly harmless, even humble, proposition from the growing hegemon. Zuckerberg suggested that the two guys take a walk.

Taking a walk, it should be noted, was Zuckerberg’s thing. He regularly took potential recruits and acquisition targets on long walks in the nearby woods to try to convince them to join his company. After the walk with my friend, Zuckerberg appeared to take the relationship to the next level. He initiated a series of conference calls with his underlings in Facebook’s product group. My friend’s small start-up shared their product road map with Facebook’s business-development team. It all seemed very collegial, and really exciting. And then, after some weeks passed, the C.E.O. of the little start-up saw the news break that Facebook had just launched a new product that competed with his own.

Stories about Facebook’s ruthlessness are legend in Silicon Valley, New York, and Hollywood. The company has behaved as bullies often do when they are vying for global dominance—slurping the lifeblood out of its competitors (as it did most recently with Snap, after C.E.O. Evan Spiegel also rebuffed Zuckerberg’s acquisition attempt), blatantly copying key features (as it did with Snapchat’s Stories), taking ideas (remember those Winklevoss twins?), and poaching senior executives (Facebook is crawling with former Twitter, Google, and Apple personnel). Zuckerberg may look aloof, but there are stories of him giving rousing Braveheart-esque speeches to employees, sometimes in Latin. Twitter, Snap, and Foursquare have all been marooned, at various points, because of Facebook’s implacable desire to grow. Instagram, WhatsApp, Oculus VR, and dozens of others are breathing life because they assented to Facebook’s acquisition desires. Meanwhile, Zuckerberg moved quickly to circumnavigate regulations before governments realized the problems that Facebook created—and certainly before they understood exactly how dangerous a social network can be to their citizens’ privacy, and to a democracy as a whole.

From a business standpoint, Facebook’s barbarism seemed to work out well for the company. The social network is worth over half-a-trillion dollars, and Zuckerberg himself is worth some $76 billion. Facebook has some of the smartest engineers and executives in the entire industry. But the fallout from that success has also become increasingly obvious, especially since the 2016 election, which prompted a year of public relations battles over the company’s most fundamental problems. And now, as we enter 2018, Zuckerberg is finally owning up to it: Facebook is in real trouble.

During the past six months alone, countless executives who once worked for the company are publicly articulating the perils of social media on both their families and democracy. Chamath Palihapitiya, an early executive, said social networks “are destroying how society works”; Sean Parker, its founding president, said “God only knows what it’s doing to our children’s brains.” (Just this weekend, Tim Cook, the C.E.O. of Apple, said he won’t let his nephew on social media.) Over the past year, people I have spoken to internally at the company have voiced concerns for what Facebook is doing (or most recently, has done) to society. Many begin the conversation by rattling off a long list of great things that Facebook inarguably does for the world—bring people and communities together, help people organize around like-minded positive events—but, as if in slow motion, those same people recount the negatives. Unable to hide from the reality of what social media has wrought, Facebook has been left with no choice but to engage with people and the media to explore if it is possible to fix these problems. Zuckerberg determined that his 2018 annual challenge would be fixing his own Web site, noting that “the world feels anxious and divided,” and that Facebook might—just maybe—be contributing to that. “My personal challenge for 2018 is to focus on fixing these important issues,” he wrote. Now, the company has said it’s going to change the focus of the site to be less about news and more about human connections.

The question, of course, revolves around this underlying motivation. Is Zuckerberg saying this because he really does worry what the world might look like tomorrow if we continue headed in the direction we’re going? Is Facebook eliminating news from its site because it realizes that spotting “fake news” is too difficult to solve—even for Facebook? Or, as some people have posited to me, is Facebook rethinking the divide it has created in order to keep growing? After all, much of Zuckerberg’s remaining growth opportunity centers upon China, and the People’s Republic won’t let any product (digital or otherwise) enter its borders if there’s a chance it could disrupt the government’s control. Why would the Chinese Politburo open its doors to a force that could conspire in its own Trumpification or Brexit or similar populist unrest?


There’s another theory floating around as to why Facebook cares so much about the way it’s impacting the world, and it’s one that I happen to agree with. When Zuckerberg looks into his big-data crystal ball, he can see a troublesome trend occurring. A few years ago, for example, there wasn’t a single person I knew who didn’t have Facebook on their smartphone. These days, it’s the opposite. This is largely anecdotal, but almost everyone I know has deleted at least one social app from their devices. And Facebook is almost always the first to go. Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Snapchat, and other sneaky privacy-piercing applications are being removed by people who simply feel icky about what these platforms are doing to them, and to society.

Some people are terrified that these services are listening in to their private conversations. (The company’s anti-privacy tentacles go so far as to track the dust on your phone to see who you might be spending time with.) Others are sick of getting into an argument with a long-lost cousin, or that guy from high school who still works in the same coffee shop, over something that Trump said, or a “news” article that is full of more bias and false facts. And then there’s the main reason I think people are abandoning these platforms: Facebook knows us better than we know ourselves, with its algorithms that can predict if we’re going to cheat on our spouse, start looking for a new job, or buy a new water bottle on Amazon in a few weeks. It knows how to send us the exact right number of pop-ups to get our endorphins going, or not show us how many Likes we really have to set off our insecurities. As a society, we feel like we’re at war with a computer algorithm, and the only winning move is not to play.

There was a time when Facebook made us feel good about using the service—I used to love it. It was fun to connect with old friends, share pictures of your vacation with everyone, or show off a video of your nephew being extra-specially cute. But, over time, Facebook has had to make Wall Street happy, and the only way to feed that beast is to accumulate more, more, more: more clicks, more time spent on the site, more Likes, more people, more connections, more hyper-personalized ads. All of which adds up to more money. But as one recent mea culpa by an early Internet guru aptly noted, “What if we were never meant to be a global species?”

If Facebook doesn’t solve these problems, and I’m not sure If it actually can, the outcomes could be devastating for the company. As Tim Wu, a professor at Columbia Law School and former senior adviser to the Federal Trade Commission, told me recently, Facebook is in real potential trouble of running into regulatory hazards, either at home or abroad. Whether it’s over hate speech or privacy protections, governments all around the world are exploring how to stop social sites, specifically Facebook, from enabling more harm to spread through society. Wu predicts that if the U.S. government turns its sights on Facebook, it could quiet easily break it up, where Instagram, Messenger, WhatsApp, and Facebook are run by four different people. Scott Galloway, professor of marketing at N.Y.U. Stern School of Business, echoed this sentiment in a separate interview with me last year, where he predicted that out of the five big tech companies (Google, Apple, Amazon, Microsoft, and Facebook), Facebook is the most at risk of seeing a legal hammer come crashing down on its platform. “This is serious. Either it’s this government, or the European government, but this is going to get real,” Galloway told me.

It’s impossible to predict where Facebook and other social sites will be in five years. Will they be largely extinct? Will they be more akin to Netflix, or like TV channels we can group-comment on? Will they have fixed their problems and be thriving? Just a couple years ago, most people believed Twitter was dead on arrival, and then Donald Trump came along and made it his 24-hour mouthpiece. Facebook could go in this direction, saved by its foray into scripted content, or the mass adoption of virtual reality. Or, it could be split up into half-a-dozen pieces.

But one thing is certain. For years, Zuckerberg and Facebook have tromped through the technology landscape and demolished everything that stood in the way. This was done without any reprisal, without any consequence. In fact, each time the company destroyed a competitor, or found a way around traditional regulatory concerns, the valuation of Facebook would go up. But now, it seems that all of those actions are coming back to haunt the company, and social media as a whole. Facebook was always famous for the sign that hung in its offices, written in big red type on a white background, that said “Move Fast and Break Things.” And every time I think about the company, I realize it has done just that—to itself. But I think that Zuckerberg, and the people who work at Facebook, also realize that the things they have broken are things that are going to be very difficult to put back together.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/01/mark-zuckerberg-facebook-downward-spiral
 
For the people that keep talking about FB is where old people go please tell me how these young cats are posting anything socially.

cause i still see people of all ages posting on FB. and basically they are on FB everyday.

I check FB like once a month. literally. lol
 
There’s another theory floating around as to why Facebook cares so much about the way it’s impacting the world, and it’s one that I happen to agree with. When Zuckerberg looks into his big-data crystal ball, he can see a troublesome trend occurring. A few years ago, for example, there wasn’t a single person I knew who didn’t have Facebook on their smartphone. These days, it’s the opposite. This is largely anecdotal, but almost everyone I know has deleted at least one social app from their devices. And Facebook is almost always the first to go. Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Snapchat, and other sneaky privacy-piercing applications are being removed by people who simply feel icky about what these platforms are doing to them, and to society.

I don't see this in the real world.

the key phrase here is largely anecdotal.

i hate FB, but it is a necessary evil for me. too much information from certain orgs go across it for me to ignore it completely.

most people i know are glued to FB all day. especially women.

and OMG i hate that live shit and people thinking that they need to add color commentary to every damn thing. but i am getting off topic now.
 
and for the record the only difference btwn FB and Instagram is practically nothing. lol.

so miss me with Instagram is growing or some shit because Instagram is owned by FB.
 
yeah, kinda like M$ losing windows share or AMD getting a faster processor than Intel.

M$ is still doing fine and Intel is losing no sleep. FB is not concerned.

What ever you say fam...

Facebook isn't like Microsoft.

I remember a time when people Thought Woolworth's was going to last for ever.

But changes in market and trying to do to much killed Woolworth and Changes in Market and trying to do too much can Kill Facebook to....


Facebook is just one "The next big thing" away from people moving to another platform. For now it's hinged on the fact that there isn't a viable alternative and that it is currently ingrained in our society. But the Site is still only 15 years old. At this current rate... it's not going to come close to the over 40 years like Microsoft and Apple.

And I use to love facebook..

but as a Tech head.. I can't support it's practices.
 
As long as there are big tittie bitches goin on vacations or to the club Facebook and Snapchat will be fine.

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What ever you say fam...

Facebook isn't like Microsoft.

I remember a time when people Thought Woolworth's was going to last for ever.

But changes in market and trying to do to much killed Woolworth and Changes in Market and trying to do too much can Kill Facebook to....


Facebook is just one "The next big thing" away from people moving to another platform. For now it's hinged on the fact that there isn't a viable alternative and that it is currently ingrained in our society. But the Site is still only 15 years old. At this current rate... it's not going to come close to the over 40 years like Microsoft and Apple.

And I use to love facebook..

but as a Tech head.. I can't support it's practices.

i agree with you in theory. but you already stated the issue.

"FB is just one "the next big thing" away from people moving to another platform. For now it's hinged on the fact that there isn't a viable alternative and that it is currently ingrained in our society."

there is nothing out there right now that even comes close to providing what FB does for users and for data collectors. and that is what is most important. FB has the most users and the most data collectors. nothing else even comes close.

M$, Goog and Appl have all tried to beat FB at the social media game and failed.

FB is going no where no time soon. these articles are just entertainment for the "sky is falling" segment of our society.
 
For the people that keep talking about FB is where old people go please tell me how these young cats are posting anything socially.

cause i still see people of all ages posting on FB. and basically they are on FB everyday.

I check FB like once a month. literally. lol

Yeah I don't know what they are talking about. Young people still use FB.....there's just also competition out there. Snapchat and IG seem to be outlets for them as well. Even Twitter to a lesser extent. I think they just have more options.....but none of them has replaced FB yet.
 
and for the record the only difference btwn FB and Instagram is practically nothing. lol.

so miss me with Instagram is growing or some shit because Instagram is owned by FB.

Instagram has it's one problems...


But as for facebook..

I saw the beginning of it's slow downfall late 2016... and instead of reversing course and fixing the problems.. It has just continued to make things worse.

From a Business perspective.. I also have to use it, but the writing is on the wall. It's only a matter of when. And it's not going to be us that make that determination... Its two generations below us. Those are the members that Facebook needs to maintain growth and that generation... Likes shit, quick fast and easy.. They also like shit to be cool and popular. Right now facebook has the popular part down, but it is no longer cool, quick or simple.
 
Instagram has it's one problems...


But as for facebook..

I saw the beginning of it's slow downfall late 2016... and instead of reversing course and fixing the problems.. It has just continued to make things worse.

From a Business perspective.. I also have to use it, but the writing is on the wall. It's only a matter of when. And it's not going to be us that make that determination... Its two generations below us. Those are the members that Facebook needs to maintain growth and that generation... Likes shit, quick fast and easy.. They also like shit to be cool and popular. Right now facebook has the popular part down, but it is no longer cool, quick or simple.

but that is exactly what i am disputing.

most kids i know can't wait to get a phone and get on FB. and i am talking preteens. my girl has three young cousins 10, 12 and 13. one of the first things they did was get on FB when they got phones. i see kids in many arenas on FB.

i told her never my kids. but with her being on FB all day herself she can't even see it. and their mother is on FB all day and she doesn't see the issue. and all of their friends are on FB all day...

i just don't see where people have this thing about kids not thinking that FB is cool.

we are both well educated. we both know businesses grow and die. (woolworth, montgomery ward, circuit city, toys r us, etc.) i just don't see FB dying anytime in the next 10-15 years. as you already conceded it is too ingrained in our society.
 
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FB is going no where no time soon. these articles are just entertainment for the "sky is falling" segment of our society.

What ever you say fam..

The one thing that I've gotten good at is seeing trends... I called the housing bubble, when I saw the subprime mortgage issues with elder clients.... I called the student loan crisis, when I saw the drastic increase in student loan debt, coupled with a struggling economy and weak market for post graduate jobs and I've been seeing the pattern in facebook for a couple years...

While I still see people post alot...

I have seen alot of hipsters in coffee shops and some high school age kids talk about how they are sick of all of the negativity that they see on facebook and are tired of seeing people overshare... they bring up the same thing that you mentioned. "They hardly log on"..

I use to be on facebook all the time.... but because of the election and the some of the newly discovered racist friends.. I went down to a irregular poster and then when I discovered that the facebook App and Facebook page are resource hounds... I went down to sporadic poster.

This is a growing trend... hence these types of articles.

I do agree that it's not going away for a while.... but if facebook doesn't make some significant changes... It can't last as is
 
I logged off two months ago. There was a lot of political bullshit and people posting fake shit all the time and actually believing it. :smh:

Now I think I might deactivate my account, I knew it was privacy issues before but now this shit is out of control.

LOL.. and you just made my point about the growing trend....

Your concerns are exactly what I saw during the election.... This is facebook's problem. More and more people like you and me....

And way to many kids.... Hence the drop in kids younger then 25.

Facebook is no longer the cool hang out spot.

It's the place where your mom and her friends go to...

If my mom were able to create a facebook account when I was in college... I would have never fucking signed up.
 
I do agree that it's not going away for a while.... but if facebook doesn't make some significant changes... It can't last as is

sticking to the subject of FB i agree that it needs to make some significant changes.

but change is only spurred by a need to change. so until a true competitor arises or until social media is gov't regulated (highly unlikely) FB likely thinks it has no need to change. when a company knows that they are the only show in town they tend to show their ass.

and keeping it real i want to see them caught with their pants down. i just don't see the market precursors as strongly as you do for this particular situation.
 
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This is almost exactly how Facebook took the juice from Myspace.... Myspace's profile page got bloated with Ads and other shit. They were trying TV and Music.. and the shit got slow. Anyone could create a myspace page... so kats started getting hit with Spam profiles.
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Myspace failed because it wasn't engineer-driven and the shit barely worked.... just like friendster.
 
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