Now that's a team that could cause them some real damage to FB but no telling what types of limitations they might have considering the size of that whatsapp acquisition.
I see Zuck is now doing a CNN interview
Facebook is facing an existential crisis ... been trying to warn kats about Facebook for a Year Now
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Now that's a team that could cause them some real damage to FB but no telling what types of limitations they might have considering the size of that whatsapp acquisition.
I see Zuck is now doing a CNN interview
Facebook owns Instagram. You didn't really leave facebook. You're still on one of their properties.
You're making my point. You will hardly find a person who isn't at least on IG, FB, or Whatsapp. As long as you're in their ecosystem, they're monetizing you.
I know Facebook owns Instagram, Facebook requires a shit ton of info. It pushes a lot of data at you and it is imbedded into browser and other single sign in programs. At this point and time instagram is not imbedded into your browsing experience. Just because you own something it does not mean that they monetize it the same. Having Amazon prime does not get you unlimited Apple juice.
Facebook does sell the data, not directly but they give apps access to data in exchange for money. It’s like saying a porn Star is not a prostitute. You can argue semantics but she is still exchanging sex for money.
They don't sell the data. In tech, that means a very specific thing. It's literal. Selling access to an ad platform that uses the data does not qualify.
It's not a semantic argument either. There are literally companies that "sell data".
They're using your IG data for targeting, champ. You can't use Whatsapp or IG and brag about leaving Facebook. You haven't left Facebook if you're still using their properties. And these use IG for retargeting on FB.
Sorry to disagree but it does. If the ad platform has the data then you are selling everything that’s a part of it. It’s like saying I’m not selling you the yarn just the clothes that was made out of it. If you have my data, and as a part of my sales pitch the data in question is the selling point guess what you are selling data. Can’t speak for tech but Facebook is a business that sells ads. Since my business deals with info and we advertise on Facebook we damn well pay good money for that data. As far as Instagram, it is a different model and as such the data is not robust.
You can't disagree with facts. It's a matter of fact that FB does not "Sell Data". In the tech industry, this term is very specific.
Well we purchased data from Facebook, call it what you want to.
http://www.businessinsider.com/how-to-opt-out-of-facebook-plan-to-sell-your-browser-data-2014-6
https://news.sky.com/story/what-does-facebook-do-with-my-data-and-how-do-i-stop-it-11299792
And finally here is Facebook explaining how they sell your data but keep your privacy in tact. I can understand you protecting your company but people need to know. Yes we don’t purchase your personal info, just everything else.
https://www.facebook.com/full_data_use_policy
Yes I’m well aware that Instagram can do the same thing, however it is easy to figure out the haven’t got there yet like google and Facebook. Simple search for a random out of the way thing like morning after pill. Shit will show up in google, amazon and Facebook. Not in my Instagram feed. When it does I will move on, if Facebook wasn’t selling they would not make any loot. My searches are data, and it is sold and then I get ads. Unless they are psychic there is no way those ads would show up.
Elon Musk deletes own, SpaceX and Tesla Facebook pages after #deletefacebook
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Elon Musk apparently wasn’t aware that his company SpaceX had a Facebook page. The SpaceX and Tesla CEO has responded to a comment on Twitter calling for him to take down the SpaceX, Tesla and Elon Musk official pages in support of the #deletefacebook movement by first acknowledging he didn’t know one existed, and then following up with promises that he would indeed take them down.
He’s done just that, as the SpaceX Facebook page is now gone, after having been live earlier today (as you can see from the screenshot included taken at around 12:10 PM ET).
As of this publishing, going to any of the above pages directs you to a message saying “Sorry, this content isn’t available right now” instead. That’s a quick turnaround, since Musk seems only to have found out these pages existed about 20 minutes prior to his taking them all offline.
Musk also responded to another comment on Twitter regarding his own and his companies’ prolific use of Instagram, which is of course owned by Facebook. The prolific entrepreneur notedthat Instagram was “borderline,” since FB’s “influence is slowly creeping in,” but it seems like he’s okay with maintaining that presence for now.
Prior to their deletion, both the SpaceX and Tesla pages had over 2.6 million Likes and Follows, and super high engagement rates. You have to wonder whether Musk’s social media management employees cried a little when these went down.
Darrell Etherington@
Elon Musk apparently wasn’t aware that his company SpaceX had a Facebook page. The SpaceX and Tesla CEO has responded to a comment on Twitter calling for him to take down the SpaceX, Tesla and Elon Musk official pages in support of the #deletefacebook movement by first acknowledging he didn’t know one existed, and then following up with promises that he would indeed take them down.
He’s done just that, as the SpaceX Facebook page is now gone, after having been live earlier today (as you can see from the screenshot included taken at around 12:10 PM ET).
As of this publishing, going to any of the above pages directs you to a message saying “Sorry, this content isn’t available right now” instead. That’s a quick turnaround, since Musk seems only to have found out these pages existed about 20 minutes prior to his taking them all offline.
Musk also responded to another comment on Twitter regarding his own and his companies’ prolific use of Instagram, which is of course owned by Facebook. The prolific entrepreneur notedthat Instagram was “borderline,” since FB’s “influence is slowly creeping in,” but it seems like he’s okay with maintaining that presence for now.
Prior to their deletion, both the SpaceX and Tesla pages had over 2.6 million Likes and Follows, and super high engagement rates. You have to wonder whether Musk’s social media management employees cried a little when these went down.
BTW facebook did not overtake myspace until 2009. Myspace was on fire in 2005, it started in 2003. Look up the "data".
anyone who spends time on the internet and believes anything they do will remain private is a fool....
if they can find hackers....they can find out your browsing history if it comes to it....
this battle has been lost a while ago
if they can find hackers....they can find out your browsing history if it comes to it....
this battle has been lost a while ago
Bro
People have no idea
Peeps: "deep packet inspection", google it
Also: https://webhose.io/
It's already a wrap for most people
I think the next social unicorn will be one leveraging explicit opt-in with some revenue share model
Actually instagram can get cookies from your browsing. Learned this today when I went to a site I've never been before because of work. Got served up an add from that site on my Instagram about an hour later.
End to End encryption is a thing of the past now! Fuck the technology has advanced.
DPI is the holy grail
can't go on record here because of NDA and nerve gas and shit but shit is deeper than people know
Brah,
I cringe to think of all the ghost, cookie, daemon loaders, snippet capture etc code that's out there now. You then combine those harvesting code with prediction and analytical algorithms and it's a wrap.
They know what you'll do before you even know under predetermined stresses.
That's fucking insane and the heart BTW of machine learning aka AI...
Part of me regrets not sticking with the Software Engineering stuff.
Oh Well...
Another chapter on Facebook’s privacy woes is being written in Latin America
Felicitas Carrique
Felicitas CarriqueContributor
Felicitas Carrique is an Argentinian reporter focused on media, technology, and innovation.
The abuse of Facebook’s platform for political purposes is a problem that doesn’t stop at the U.S border. Governments around the world are continuing to wrestle with the implications of Cambridge Analytica’s acquisition of Facebook user data from the heart of Europe to the capitals of Latin America’s most populous nations.
In South America, several chapters are still being written into the public record of Facebook’s privacy privations. Some Latin American democracies are also beginning to investigate whether the data harvesting techniques associated with Cambridge Analytica (CA) were used in their electoral processes.
Facebook, Cambridge Analytica and South America: a recap
Brazil
The Brazilian Public Prosecutor’s Office started an investigation to clarify if Cambridge Analytica (CA) had illegal access to Facebook’s private information from millions of Brazillians through their subsidiary, a Sao Paulo-based consulting group named A Ponte Estratégia Planejamento e Pesquisa LTDA.
The investigation came as a result of Cambridge Analytica Chief Data Officer Dr Alex Tayler and Managing Director Mark Turnbull saying to an undercover journalist that the company was now targeting Brazil, among other countries. The Brazilian case is a big deal for Facebook because it is its third-largest market and has an election coming in seven months.
Argentina
Cambridge Analytica’s parent company, SCL Group, has an office in Buenos Aires which address matches with the office of an Argentinian agricultural enterprise called Blacksoil, according to the news outlet, Clarin. The article pointed out that Alexander Nix, former CA’s CEO, was friend of the owner of the company, Lucas Talamoni Grether with whom hehad conducted business before.
The Argentinian National Electoral Chamber (CNE), which is in charge of overseeing the elections and auditing campaign contributions and expenses, initiated an “internal investigation” following the scandal revealed by British TV Channel 4. Political parties are accusing one another of using CA services in the 2017 midterm election but there is no hard evidence either supporting or refuting the allegations.
Mexico and Colombia
Mexico, the fifth largest market for Facebook, is also involved in the Cambridge Analytica debacle. In the same video that CA executives mention targeting Brazil, they admit having operated in Mexico using an app called Pig.Gi. Mexico’s general election are due on July 1st. The same app was used to access data from Colombian users, according to the tech site Hipertextual.
Nevertheless, Pig.Gi’s founder and CEO, Joel Phillips, admitted signing a deal with the data company but says the information never got to their hands and there is no evidence that the company had any access to personal data from Mexicans or Colombians, according to the same article.
Apart from being named by Alexander Nix in the video leak which blew up the scandal, there isn’t much empirical evidence of Cambridge Analytica actually tampering with South American electoral processes. However ineffectual Cambridge Analytica’s efforts have been, Facebook is still on the hook when it comes to “fake news” and misinformation in the region.
Misinformed emerging democracies
During the Argentinian electoral process in 2017 hundreds of fake articles were distributed through Facebook. A fact-checking site called Chequeado compiled some of the misinformation that was distributed on the platform.
Among them there were reports accusing the leader of a Teacher’s Union of not being a teacher; of the Buenos Aires Province Governor raising her own salary by 100% and even a claim that the US Government recorded Macri’s Administration as being the most corrupt in the world.
There were some sites created for the sole purpose of spreading Fake News on Facebook and these pieces went viral over and over again.
On the other hand, Brazil has steadily become a fake news heaven. The political instability that reigns in the country has made it easier for fake news to spread within fanatic circles. The Monitor Do Debate Politico No Meio Digital, an organization that follows the trail of political news in Social Networks, told El Pais that there are lots of sites which are not officially developing a systematic campaign of fake news prior to the October elections but have begun spreading fake reports in the social ecosystem.
This scheme is repeating itself throughout Latin American countries — and with the same characteristics. It’s not necessarily systemic, but it is growing. The difference remains in the plausibility of the pieces which were spread in the region.
Although there were no conspiracy theories that compared candidates to a reptile, in South America stories did aim to enhance what people already thought of political figures.
According to Luciano Galup, a social media strategist for political campaigns in the region, fake news are most effective in polarized societies. A study made by Oxford University in the US, showed that extremists tend to distribute more fake information than moderates within parties. And polarization is a major characteristic of the Latin American region’s political scenario. This makes Latin America the perfect victim for people trying to tamper with elections by presenting propaganda as actual news.
If we add that up with the lack of control from governments and Facebook attempts to solve the issue, we have a ticking time bomb. The only positive, Galup says, is that services like the ones on offer from Cambridge Analytica are prohibitively expensive for most political parties in Latin America.
In this case, the only thing saving elections in the region from outside corrupting influences may be the greed of those same corrupting influences.
Felicitas Carrique
Felicitas CarriqueContributor
Felicitas Carrique is an Argentinian reporter focused on media, technology, and innovation.
The abuse of Facebook’s platform for political purposes is a problem that doesn’t stop at the U.S border. Governments around the world are continuing to wrestle with the implications of Cambridge Analytica’s acquisition of Facebook user data from the heart of Europe to the capitals of Latin America’s most populous nations.
In South America, several chapters are still being written into the public record of Facebook’s privacy privations. Some Latin American democracies are also beginning to investigate whether the data harvesting techniques associated with Cambridge Analytica (CA) were used in their electoral processes.
Facebook, Cambridge Analytica and South America: a recap
Brazil
The Brazilian Public Prosecutor’s Office started an investigation to clarify if Cambridge Analytica (CA) had illegal access to Facebook’s private information from millions of Brazillians through their subsidiary, a Sao Paulo-based consulting group named A Ponte Estratégia Planejamento e Pesquisa LTDA.
The investigation came as a result of Cambridge Analytica Chief Data Officer Dr Alex Tayler and Managing Director Mark Turnbull saying to an undercover journalist that the company was now targeting Brazil, among other countries. The Brazilian case is a big deal for Facebook because it is its third-largest market and has an election coming in seven months.
Argentina
Cambridge Analytica’s parent company, SCL Group, has an office in Buenos Aires which address matches with the office of an Argentinian agricultural enterprise called Blacksoil, according to the news outlet, Clarin. The article pointed out that Alexander Nix, former CA’s CEO, was friend of the owner of the company, Lucas Talamoni Grether with whom hehad conducted business before.
The Argentinian National Electoral Chamber (CNE), which is in charge of overseeing the elections and auditing campaign contributions and expenses, initiated an “internal investigation” following the scandal revealed by British TV Channel 4. Political parties are accusing one another of using CA services in the 2017 midterm election but there is no hard evidence either supporting or refuting the allegations.
Mexico and Colombia
Mexico, the fifth largest market for Facebook, is also involved in the Cambridge Analytica debacle. In the same video that CA executives mention targeting Brazil, they admit having operated in Mexico using an app called Pig.Gi. Mexico’s general election are due on July 1st. The same app was used to access data from Colombian users, according to the tech site Hipertextual.
Nevertheless, Pig.Gi’s founder and CEO, Joel Phillips, admitted signing a deal with the data company but says the information never got to their hands and there is no evidence that the company had any access to personal data from Mexicans or Colombians, according to the same article.
Apart from being named by Alexander Nix in the video leak which blew up the scandal, there isn’t much empirical evidence of Cambridge Analytica actually tampering with South American electoral processes. However ineffectual Cambridge Analytica’s efforts have been, Facebook is still on the hook when it comes to “fake news” and misinformation in the region.
Misinformed emerging democracies
During the Argentinian electoral process in 2017 hundreds of fake articles were distributed through Facebook. A fact-checking site called Chequeado compiled some of the misinformation that was distributed on the platform.
Among them there were reports accusing the leader of a Teacher’s Union of not being a teacher; of the Buenos Aires Province Governor raising her own salary by 100% and even a claim that the US Government recorded Macri’s Administration as being the most corrupt in the world.
There were some sites created for the sole purpose of spreading Fake News on Facebook and these pieces went viral over and over again.
On the other hand, Brazil has steadily become a fake news heaven. The political instability that reigns in the country has made it easier for fake news to spread within fanatic circles. The Monitor Do Debate Politico No Meio Digital, an organization that follows the trail of political news in Social Networks, told El Pais that there are lots of sites which are not officially developing a systematic campaign of fake news prior to the October elections but have begun spreading fake reports in the social ecosystem.
This scheme is repeating itself throughout Latin American countries — and with the same characteristics. It’s not necessarily systemic, but it is growing. The difference remains in the plausibility of the pieces which were spread in the region.
Although there were no conspiracy theories that compared candidates to a reptile, in South America stories did aim to enhance what people already thought of political figures.
According to Luciano Galup, a social media strategist for political campaigns in the region, fake news are most effective in polarized societies. A study made by Oxford University in the US, showed that extremists tend to distribute more fake information than moderates within parties. And polarization is a major characteristic of the Latin American region’s political scenario. This makes Latin America the perfect victim for people trying to tamper with elections by presenting propaganda as actual news.
If we add that up with the lack of control from governments and Facebook attempts to solve the issue, we have a ticking time bomb. The only positive, Galup says, is that services like the ones on offer from Cambridge Analytica are prohibitively expensive for most political parties in Latin America.
In this case, the only thing saving elections in the region from outside corrupting influences may be the greed of those same corrupting influences.
Member when I posted this back in 2018 and kats thought I was talking nonsense
Facebook Is Weaker Than We Knew
One possible way to read “The Facebook Files,” The Wall Street Journal’s excellent series of reports based on leaked internal Facebook research, is as a story about an unstoppable juggernaut bulldozing society on its way to the bank. The series has exposed damning evidence that Facebook has a...
Just going to quote some of the classics..
Facebook generates just as many leads as Google now. It has become a must for businesses
They have enough funds to buy out the next platform that people will flock to but they would have to beat Google to the punch. Imagine if facebook could buy instagram, whatsapp, ... whatsnext.
FACEBOOK Stocks....
Facebook’s public strategy outgrew Sheryl Sandberg
The company's public strategy has changed as its challenges moved from business to politics.
www.politico.com
The company's public strategy has changed as its challenges moved from business to politics.
Facebook’s public strategy outgrew Sheryl Sandberg
The company's public strategy has changed as its challenges moved from business to politics.
www.politico.com
Nope…Facebook’s public strategy outgrew Sheryl Sandberg
The company's public strategy has changed as its challenges moved from business to politics.
Facebook’s public strategy outgrew Sheryl Sandberg
The company's public strategy has changed as its challenges moved from business to politics.
Sheryl Sandberg was under investigation at Meta for using corporate resources to plan her wedding, report says
Sheryl Sandberg was under investigation at Meta for using corporate resources to plan her wedding, report says
Meta, Facebook's parent company, was reviewing Sheryl Sandberg personal activities as recently as May, The Wall Street Journal reported.
www.businessinsider.com
Can I skirt prostitution laws by charging admission to a brothel and you can have sex once inside?
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