Its a game, but even as a publicity spin I don't see Floyd doing that lol
Final ALL ACCESS clearly proves Floyd carried Conor
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Yeah , I just count Manny on the sauce when he was doing that to people, including Cotto. Shit, he still hits hard.
Floyd wouldn't be able to train him against Manny or top tier fighter. That style has only ONE effective practitioner and that's Floyd. He's had an entire career to perfect it. Months ain't going to help. Take a look at Bronner. He'd beat the shit out of McGregor as well and would look like Floyd doing it. There's no money in a fight against Paulie. I don't blame him for wanting a payday but he's not a draw at this point. Manny is the draw. It won't come close to Floyd numbers but they'll walk away with some serious loot.
That story was a fabrication. He took Floyd to court and won. Personally I thought it was in bad form to suggest such a thing when there was no proof. The Mayweather camp was just mad because Manny's knock a muthafucka out style affected their brand to a certain degree. Floyd winning decisions. Manny killing the same fighters. It was a bad look and the Mayweathers responded with innuendo and we (Black folk) fell for that shit like Trumpsters. Believing shit without any proof just isn't something Black folk do but folks did it. I never believed that shit and just chalked it up to fighters not being able to either adjust or recognize the fact that he kills everyone coming towards him. Simple shit really but obviously hard for fighters who have been fighting one way their entire lives to avoid.
No one proved it in court and he never got caught but I believe the circumstantial evidence. He hasn't been doing it since, pretty much. He just got beat by who? What happened to this power? Anyway, I don't have any proof, so I'm not trying to convince you, but I believe it. Floyd still beat him easily.
Paulie is not a top tier fighter, and I'm not saying he would train him to fight like Floyd. I'm saying that Floyd would train him to build on skills he already had. This was the thinking Ricky Hatton had when he took on Floyd Sr. as a trainer (who ironically beat Paulie in their first fight together). He didn't listen to Floyd Sr. when he fought Pacquiao and you see what that got him.
And there is money in fighting Paulie due to the war of words. But they have to act on it as quickly as possible. The soonest they could do it is March of next year because Dana White said he has to get back in the octagon.
Paulie vs. Conor on St. Patrick's Day in a win/win for all involved.
without proper training - ANY in shape elite boxer puts Connor in the hospital - I really hope his camp understands that now...
It might happen -Al Haymon wants in MMA - and imo - this promotion was really him and Floyd recruiting Connor...
These boys partnered with then gutted Golden Boy -
Dana /UFC doesn't have the $$ to really fight them off if Connor wants to work with them...
without proper training - ANY in shape elite boxer puts Connor in the hospital - I really hope his camp understands that now...
It might happen -Al Haymon wants in MMA - and imo - this promotion was really him and Floyd recruiting Connor...
These boys partnered with then gutted Golden Boy -
Dana /UFC doesn't have the $$ to really fight them off if Connor wants to work with them...
Haymon would just need to buy a smaller company like a Bellator and then convince the bigger names to sign there. Conor would be a big coup to sign though. He still hs 4 fights left so if he would have to do a Tupac and just hammer out as many fights as he can to fulfill his contract.
dude - a boxer like Floyd is familiar with many styles... he chose and evolved the one that suits him but he trained in many styles and studied even more for every style that his opponents used vs him
I agree. I just don't think OTHER fighters can emulate his style effectively. Floyd can be Floyd against the best fighters. I just don't think he can train another fighter to have his natural instincts.
without proper training - ANY in shape elite boxer puts Connor in the hospital - I really hope his camp understands that now...
I don't think he cares. MMA is pretty brutal. The risk/reward is so great he'd overlook the risks.
There's no circumstantial evidence Bruh. It's just the Mayweathers and folks bought it. Not one shred of evidence. Not one. That's why Floyd had to cut dude a check. Not even trainers stepping forth to discuss a change in Manny's workout routine (because simply taking a steroid or HGH doesn't work without exercise and diet). No evidence whatsoever. Just street talk and the streets are full of shit.
The last dude to come directly at Manny was Marquez. Everyone, including Floyd, refused to go toe to toe. All of Manny's victims tried to FIGHT him, not box him. Since then NO ONE has tried to fight him. Everyone wants to fight at a distance. That's why there haven't been as many victims. Anyone willing to stand in front of this dude will die. Anytime Marquez says he literally felt he was about to get knocked out when he caught Manny coming in that should tell you something about his power.
Cotto's style plus the catch weight doomed him just like a lot of bigger fighters who wanted that payday. Had nothing to do with being juiced. Muthafuckas get caught juicing all the time yet we're supposed to believe Manny not only did it but did it so well he was able to do it for years an not get caught. It's a total fabrication to discount what he was doing in the ring. Nothing more.
Now THATS an angle I like. That's a lot of work, and who knows if bellator even wants to sell but I like that one.
Care to explain why he needed cut off dates and used ridiculous excuses like being weak and being afraid of needles as reasons for not submitting to random blood and urine tests?
No, but McGregor has SOME natural instincts. Just not to the level of Floyd.
Remember Floyd's team trained other fighters like Tank Davis and worked with Oscar. Floyd Sr. said Oscar had problems learning the shoulder roll.
Asking me to explain another man's thought process is far harder than asking for proof of a transgression. It's the equivalent of my wife asking me to take a test for an std and equating my refusal to be subjected to that shit as proof of me having one.
The boxing world is huge and the only folks making these assertions were the Mayweathers. More importantly, why would a guilty man take the Mayweathers to court? Well? If the Mayweathers had any, I repeat, ANY knowledge of what they alleged why didn't they submit it in court where it mattered? In court where if you get caught lying on stand it's considered perjury?
No offense but if I stood in an auditorium of Harvard educated lawyers I'm willing to bet my rationale and argument would trump every assertion you just made. Why? Because it went to court and there was a loser. Floyd lost. Admitted he had no evidence and yet you're still holding on to the fallacy?
Just call it what it really was and that was playing the media and public. Something Floyd has clearly shown he's a master at doing it to both parties.
Paulie Malanaggie has made the case several times. Several other boxing aficionados have as well .
Again, he can sue as long as there is no real evidence. The real evidence would be him failing tests. He hasn't so you're good there.
We're not in a court of law and I don't have a way to prove it other than the circumstantial evidence I've listened to from several people and I believe he was. Dont worry, I'm not the feds lol. He's made it past the real way to catch him. He's home free
Your quesfions about why a guilty ma would take them to court has an obvious answer. His team knew he could get away with it
What assertion did I make, that you 'trumped'? Were you able to provide logical reasons as to why Pac refused testing?
Call it what you want, but he flat out lied about being deathly afraid of needles. The being weak part can't be proven as a lie, but it's certainly an asinine reason to evade testing.
you don't understand- elite boxers are very well versed in many different styles and can teach / coach a fighter using different styles than they would use themselves.
Every fighter has their own talents and instincts - what Connor needs is tutelage on the fundamentals of boxing and the basic science of it- if he intends to step in a ring again and be able to walk out...
Tyson Floyd Hopkins etc would all be excellent coaches for this and provide sizzle for publicity
on the business end Al Haymon and Floyd would become even more wealthy if they are able to use Connor to get in the UFC and start doing cross promotion events
dude - thats not a risk - its a guarantee
Floyd took it easy on him and McGregor was winded by rd 3 and helpless to properly defend himself by rd4
if he is being honest he'll tell you that in rd 5 he couldn't launch a knee, kick or grapple even if he wanted too
and by rd 7 he wasn't able to use his elbows/ forearms in defense nor offense
Any competent boxer with bad intentions would have permanently hurt/ cripple McGregor that night inside of 5 rounds
I believe this also... plus add the fact that he repeatedly fractured his hands in a few of his earlier fights
Speaks to his intelligence and dedication. His hands are reportedly horrible. He adapted, grew and became an even better overall fighter than he was when he was knocking folks out. I may have my issues every now and them (because I believe he could have pushed himself even farther) but there's no denying he's the only one who can do what he does.
Don't disagree. I'm just saying he'd be willing to do it for the money. For that kind of payday my old ass would get in the ring and try to kill than muthafucka up until the second he caught me. I'd probably suffer a lot because this nicca ain't made of glass. Which would make the beating far worse.
Oh I get that. I just happen to believe there are only a handful of ELITE boxers who could benefit from the lessons Floyd provides. The average fighter? Not so much in my opinion. Floyd is a perfect combination of effort, practice and something innate that simply makes him better. It's the latter that would be hard to replicate in my opinion.
Floyd wasn't stupid. Fighting Manny toe to toe would be like the battles he had when he was a lightweight. That shit was off the charts and frankly Floyd wouldn't have won that shit. (Maybe he was a good puncher.) Manny is too heavy handed and Floyd would have been at a disadvantage because he has bad hands. It wouldn't have been a skill issue because Floyd's skill level is far superior. It's strictly physical. The only way to beat Manny is to do exactly what everybody is doing now. Has nothing to do with Manny's power. As far as the court thing? If someone sues you for defamation the ONLY thing you need to do is either a) prove what you're saying is true or b) prove what you said had little to no impact on the reputation of the other individuals. Floyd couldn't do either of those so that's why he lost and had to cut Manny a check.
It doesn't matter at this point. They fought. It wasn't the perfect scenario for either of them but at the end of the day Floyd held court. A second fight between the two of them wouldn't yield a different result because Floyd is a phenomenal athlete. He would never tire and Manny wouldn't catch him. No fight. Strictly boxing. The pre-broken hand Floyd would whip his ass though.
If Manny was never caught during fight tests then of course Floyd doesn't get to test him just to prove it wasn't slander. Thats just a legal technicality for speaking on what he couldn't prove.
And Floyd DID beat him. POST broken hand. EASILY.
There's no need for speculation there.
Floyd's style is hard to beat. He should have never mentioned something he had no personal knowledge of such as PEDs. That's why he was taken to court and that's why he lost. It was childish and a waste of time. Who knows. Maybe it was a ploy for a bigger payday. They both made out well.
Look I aint gonna debate it. I told you I have no proof but I believe the circumstantial.evidemce. You don't. It's cool.
We're just talking. No issues.
Word I feel ya lol
Shit Bruh. A lotta dudes in BGOL can't have a civil conversation if there's a disagreement. Even when there is a fine line between agreement and disagreement. Me? I like hearing folks who disagree with my views. Everybody likes to win but you pick shit up you may have missed. Peace Bruh.
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