Game Of Thrones: The Sopranos with swords or Dynasty in chainmail?

writing has flaws. for instance, the surprise about what to do with the dragons. um, 90% of those dudes were around during the mad king and knew the story of the slaughter of them. They have amnesia now?

time jumps. don't get me started on the travel issues.

bringing in ed sheeran. personal move and it took away from the GOT world. We are supposed to be lost in this world and then you see ed. lol. that was not a good move. it was just to appeal to arya because she's a fan in real life. hopefully harry styles won't be in it next.
Nope brother. The last dragon, before Dany had heard dragons, died during the reign of Aegon III after the dance of the dragons some 150 years before Season 1. No one in the current show was alive back then, not even Olenna Tyrell.
 
writing has flaws. for instance, the surprise about what to do with the dragons. um, 90% of those dudes were around during the mad king and knew the story of the slaughter of them. They have amnesia now?

time jumps. don't get me started on the travel issues.

bringing in ed sheeran. personal move and it took away from the GOT world. We are supposed to be lost in this world and then you see ed. lol. that was not a good move. it was just to appeal to arya because she's a fan in real life. hopefully harry styles won't be in it next.
and it was 170 years ago and some change.
 
and it was 170 years ago and some change.
Correct, but keep in mind that those dragons killed each other for the most part during the civil war (for e.g. Damon Targaryan's dragon vs. Aemon One Eye's) and the last remaining ones died off. Cersei is outnumbered and outgunned so she needs a strategy to kill 3 full dragons while battling the rest of the realm and not to be killed in field of fire.

As for your Ed Sheeran comment, I said eh but he is not the only music star to make a cameo on the show. Go back to the Red Wedding episode and you will see the drummer from Cold Play playing the drums in the wedding band. I think there is a video somewhere on other stars who made cameos as well.
 
writing has flaws. for instance, the surprise about what to do with the dragons. um, 90% of those dudes were around during the mad king and knew the story of the slaughter of them. They have amnesia now?

time jumps. don't get me started on the travel issues.

bringing in ed sheeran. personal move and it took away from the GOT world. We are supposed to be lost in this world and then you see ed. lol. that was not a good move. it was just to appeal to arya because she's a fan in real life. hopefully harry styles won't be in it next.

I swear I had never heard of this cac before everybody lost their minds about him being in GoT.

For what its worth he played his role well.
 
no shit. you completely missed what i said. and the dance of dragons was 170 years ago.
I'll say it again. Under Targaryen rule, how do you not the history of the civil war and the Dance of Dragons? Even King Joffrey quoted the civil war at one point. Now, they forgot all about dragons and how to kill them. They can't be that stupid.

It's almost like an American not knowing about the civil war.
outside of legends and stories most americans don't know about the civil war... just that it happened, nor do they have any of the skillsets and technology from that time. (how many army officers today know how to use a saber from horse back? how many gun owners know how to use a black powder revolver?)

shit look at Trump.... just a few months ago he demonstrated that he doesn't know or understand shit about the civil war

The great depression, the dust bowl, occurred for most here - to their grandparents and great grand parents
but look how many politicians and leaders forgot by 1995 about how and why both occurred. allowing Clinton and Bush administrations to strip away the financial protections and fed regulations put in place because of both incidents

No need for dragon lore when there are no dragons for 10 generations -most stopped believing and their knowledge /skills weren't passed on - only the stories and legends.
Almost all magic in Westeros was dormant until Danny hatched her eggs -
The maesters stopped truly studying magic (or suppressed it) which is why Quiburn was expelled
They are still hoarding the knowledge and restricting access to it.
 
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Which travel issues?

writing has flaws. for instance, the surprise about what to do with the dragons. um, 90% of those dudes were around during the mad king and knew the story of the slaughter of them. They have amnesia now?

time jumps. don't get me started on the travel issues.

bringing in ed sheeran. personal move and it took away from the GOT world. We are supposed to be lost in this world and then you see ed. lol. that was not a good move. it was just to appeal to arya because she's a fan in real life. hopefully harry styles won't be in it next.
 
outside of legends and stories most americans don't know about the civil war... just that it happened, nor do they have any of the skillsets and technology from that time. (how many army officers today know how to use a saber from horse back? how many gun owners know how to use a black powder revolver?)

shit look at Trump.... just a few months ago he demonstrated that he doesn't know or understand shit about the civil war

The great depression, the dust bowl, occurred for most here - to their grandparents and great grand parents
but look how many politicians and leaders forgot by 1995 about how and why both occurred. allowing Clinton and Bush administrations to strip away the financial protections and fed regulations put in place because of both incidents

No need for dragon lore when there are no dragons for 10 generations -most stopped believing and their knowledge /skills weren't passed on - only the stories and legends.
Almost all magic in Westeros was dormant until Danny hatched her eggs -
The maesters stopped truly studying magic (or suppressed it) which is why Quiburn was expelled
They are still hoarding the knowledge and restricting access to it.
ok, but these are military experts and those that control armed forces. You would think they would have some basic history knowledge of war.
Whatever, man lol. King Joffrey spoke of it so the younger generation, especially those close to the court, should know about it.
 
Which travel issues?
1.
Theon leaves the outskirts of Winterfell in episode two. By episode four, he is at Pyke. Pyke is on an island. So I ask: Where did Theon — who was very recently "Reek," who had and still has absolutely no money and barely even half of a Yeezy sweater to his name — get a boat?

2.
Yara and Theon leave the Iron Islands with most of the Iron Fleet in episode six — Theon gets some boats, finally. By episode seven, they’re hanging out in a brothel in what appears to be the Free City of Volantis. This means they sailed around the entire continent of Westeros in one episode. I know they’re pirates, but there’s only so much that a "what is dead may never die" can-do attitude can really do before basic physics thwart you.

3.
Look, I understand that most of the Sand Snakes’ journey happened in the nexus between season five and seasons six, but I feel like the absurdity of their trip to King’s Landing needs to be addressed here. At the end of season five, the four ladies of Dorne watch from the shore of Sunspear as the doomed Myrcella sails away with Jamie and Trystane. But Obara and Nymeria must have immediately hopped on the Acela Express right after that, because they somehow catch up with that boat as soon as it gets to King’s Landing.

4.
Varys, as we know, has been chilling in Meereen, helping with the one-liners since Tyrion has been struggling with his lately. In episode 8, the buddy cop duo split up when Varys goes on a secret mission to help boost Dany’s polling numbers. Sometime prior to episode 10, Varys makes it to Sunspear in Dorne via ship to secure an alliance with the Sand Snakes and Lady Olenna. I guess that’s not so crazy, seeing as how Sunspear is the closest Westeros city to Meereen, so I’ll give it an initial pass.

But what is crazy are all of his next moves. Just within episode 10, Varys manages to wrangle up a bunch of Dornish ships, travel back to Meereen, and then sail out again with the rest of Daenarys’ fleet. Perhaps Westeros has finally entered its version of the industrial revolution and equipped all the boats with motorized propellers!

5.
The last we saw the White Walkers, in episode nine of season five, they were in Hardhome. By episode six of the next season, they’ve gotten to the Three-Eyed Raven’s Tree Cave, which most people place slightly east of the Fist of the First Men. They made it from slightly east of a tree to a tree in seven episodes. We’ve been asked to consider them an imminent danger for six seasons now, but they move at about the pace of a shopping mall that was built on top of a swamp. That is when they aren’t hurling themselves off cliffs.
 
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5.
The last we saw the White Walkers, in episode nine of season five, they were in Hardhome. By episode six of this season, they’ve gotten to the Three-Eyed Raven’s Tree Cave, which most people place slightly east of the Fist of the First Men. They made it from slightly east of a tree to a tree in seven episodes. We’ve been asked to consider them an imminent danger for six seasons now, but they move at about the pace of a shopping mall that was built on top of a swamp. That is when they aren’t hurling themselves off cliffs.
in this case - the NK was growing his army, waiting fir winter and waiting for something else he needs
but they can't get within a mile near the wall -for now
 
in this case - the NK was growing his army, waiting fir winter and waiting for something else he needs
but they can't get within a mile near the wall -for now

folks saying the water around the wall is freezing they can just walk around it
 
only thing saving this corny shit are people getting naked
this season just dragging on getting tired of some of these flat predictable characters
 
But she is the one that gave him the authority and it backfired on her. What she did is the equivalent to blowing up St. Peters Basilica. If you guys go back to scene where she was crowned, take a look at the faces in the crowd. Not ONE person was smiling. Then go back to scene when Tommen was crowned, he got a standing ovation. Nah, she is despised and going to pay

Of course I agree but Shoeless Joe Jerkoff and his minions were just as oppressive as Cersi. The avg man on the street probably hates them all.
Of course with the war coming Cersi has already started playing the US vs Them card to rally the people. In the real world we saw that work to some degree after 9/11 and the run up to the Iraq war. In Kings Landing we'll see how far that goes.
 
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I swear I had never heard of this cac before everybody lost their minds about him being in GoT.

For what its worth he played his role well.

I knew who he was but didn't recognize him. So it didn't take me out of the show. I was wondering if Arya was going to kill them. Kid is on a Roll...
 
I've always looked at it like this.... they never give dates, like when Varys went from Mereen to Dorne, and then back to Mereen, they didn't say March 8th, Vary's leaves Mereen... March 20th, Varys reaches Dorne, March 24th Vary's leaves Dorne bound for Mereen, etc. We saw him bounce around in one episode, but how do we know the time that has passed? If they locked in dates or timeframes somehow, that would be different. Like if a female character was 9 months pregant, and someone left to go on a long long journey by boat, and that person got there, accomplished whatever goal and sailed back, and the chick was still pregnant with the same kid, then we have a problem. Barring that, I just always assume that the time that passes between scenes in an episode is whatever time the story arc needs, and as long as they don't fuck up, it doesn't bother me.

I used to watch One Life to Live... soap opera that went off the air a few years back, and they regularly fucked up with travel and time. For instance, the characters all lived in a Philadelphia suburb, and there was a storyline where one character went into hiding in like Toronto... and another character finds out and heads off from PA to Toronto to find her, and they literally went there and back during the same episode, while some other characters were siting in a diner :lol: . So they locked in the day/time because of the characters sitting in the diner, and then fudged the travel time by making their friend make that round trip
1.
Theon leaves the outskirts of Winterfell in episode two. By episode four, he is at Pyke. Pyke is on an island. So I ask: Where did Theon — who was very recently "Reek," who had and still has absolutely no money and barely even half of a Yeezy sweater to his name — get a boat?

2.
Yara and Theon leave the Iron Islands with most of the Iron Fleet in episode six — Theon gets some boats, finally. By episode seven, they’re hanging out in a brothel in what appears to be the Free City of Volantis. This means they sailed around the entire continent of Westeros in one episode. I know they’re pirates, but there’s only so much that a "what is dead may never die" can-do attitude can really do before basic physics thwart you.

3.
Look, I understand that most of the Sand Snakes’ journey happened in the nexus between season five and seasons six, but I feel like the absurdity of their trip to King’s Landing needs to be addressed here. At the end of season five, the four ladies of Dorne watch from the shore of Sunspear as the doomed Myrcella sails away with Jamie and Trystane. But Obara and Nymeria must have immediately hopped on the Acela Express right after that, because they somehow catch up with that boat as soon as it gets to King’s Landing.

4.
Varys, as we know, has been chilling in Meereen, helping with the one-liners since Tyrion has been struggling with his lately. In episode 8, the buddy cop duo split up when Varys goes on a secret mission to help boost Dany’s polling numbers. Sometime prior to episode 10, Varys makes it to Sunspear in Dorne via ship to secure an alliance with the Sand Snakes and Lady Olenna. I guess that’s not so crazy, seeing as how Sunspear is the closest Westeros city to Meereen, so I’ll give it an initial pass.

But what is crazy are all of his next moves. Just within episode 10, Varys manages to wrangle up a bunch of Dornish ships, travel back to Meereen, and then sail out again with the rest of Daenarys’ fleet. Perhaps Westeros has finally entered its version of the industrial revolution and equipped all the boats with motorized propellers!

5.
The last we saw the White Walkers, in episode nine of season five, they were in Hardhome. By episode six of the next season, they’ve gotten to the Three-Eyed Raven’s Tree Cave, which most people place slightly east of the Fist of the First Men. They made it from slightly east of a tree to a tree in seven episodes. We’ve been asked to consider them an imminent danger for six seasons now, but they move at about the pace of a shopping mall that was built on top of a swamp. That is when they aren’t hurling themselves off cliffs.
 
I've always looked at it like this.... they never give dates, like when Varys went from Mereen to Dorne, and then back to Mereen, they didn't say March 8th, Vary's leaves Mereen... March 20th, Varys reaches Dorne, March 24th Vary's leaves Dorne bound for Mereen, etc. We saw him bounce around in one episode, but how do we know the time that has passed? If they locked in dates or timeframes somehow, that would be different. Like if a female character was 9 months pregant, and someone left to go on a long long journey by boat, and that person got there, accomplished whatever goal and sailed back, and the chick was still pregnant with the same kid, then we have a problem. Barring that, I just always assume that the time that passes between scenes in an episode is whatever time the story arc needs, and as long as they don't fuck up, it doesn't bother me.

I used to watch One Life to Live... soap opera that went off the air a few years back, and they regularly fucked up with travel and time. For instance, the characters all lived in a Philadelphia suburb, and there was a storyline where one character went into hiding in like Toronto... and another character finds out and heads off from PA to Toronto to find her, and they literally went there and back during the same episode, while some other characters were siting in a diner :lol: . So they locked in the day/time because of the characters sitting in the diner, and then fudged the travel time by making their friend make that round trip
terrible excuses. when you shoot in a film or tv format, you do it in consequential order of events and perceived time. The poorly planned writing and directing wasn't up to par to give the viewer proper valuation of time passing.

Uh, I don't even want to know why you watching soaps. However, you shouldn't compare "The GOAT" to a soap opera. I expect more from a quality show.

It's still the best show on now but I don't know about being GOAT. The Wire had more intelligent writing. You can argue that it wasn't as consistent in being thrilling though.
 
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terrible excuses. when you shoot in a film or tv format, you do it in consequential order of events and perceived time. The poorly planned writing and directing wasn't up to par to give the viewer proper valuation of time passing.

Uh, I don't even want to know why you watching soaps. However, you shouldn't compare "The GOAT" to a soap opera. I expect more from a quality show.

It's still the best show on now but I don't know about being GOAT. The Wire had more intelligent writing. You can argue that it wasn't as consistent in being thrilling though.
Wait a sec.... a regular 'season' (i.e. Winter, Spring, Summer & Fall) lasts for 3 months, in the real world.

But in Westeros... Summer / Winter can last for a DECADE... or even a few GENERATIONS.

They been saying "Winter is Coming" since Episode 1.... and in Epsiode 3, The Old Nan tells Bran a 'scary story' about The Long Night... "where the sun hides for several years... and children were born, and lived and died... all in Darkness."



So that's BIG CLUE for the audience that 'perceived time' unfolds at a much different rate than normal... and everything that happens onscreen (even in the same episode) might not be happening on the same day... or in the same week.

If the Summer (or Winter) lasts for 10+ years.... then some scenes (in different locations) could be happening weeks (or months) apart. Not necessarily on the same day.

If you knew all this since season 1... why would you think (in Season 6 or 7) that 'time' in Westeros should unfold in a normal 'sequential' manner that is consistent with the 'real world'? :dunno:

The writers told you 'what was up' from the very beginning of the show. :yes:

Just saying.
 
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littlefinger has been reduced to a pure bitch so far this season smh
The thing about this bitch is he doesn't play bitch for long. He is honestly one of the scariest characters in this series because though he may be weak, his mind is strong. Stronger than all of those around, even Varis. He will see to it that he wins.

Littlefinger does not lose. And that matter he's more dangerous than Cersei and I would kill him first time I had the chance
 
Wun Wun got killed at the end of the Battle of the Bastards last season. I don't think that was the giant with the white walkers this season though...Not sure if there was more than one of them at Hardhome, but if there was, it was probably from there.


Not trying to spoil anything but did the giant get clipped?
 
I'm not making excuses, I'm just telling you how I see it. If they lock themselves into a timeframe, that's one thing; if they don't it doesn't bother me. Oh, I work from home, and I watch whatever is on while I'm making money. Shit, I watch Wordgirl on pbs sometimes.


terrible excuses. when you shoot in a film or tv format, you do it in consequential order of events and perceived time. The poorly planned writing and directing wasn't up to par to give the viewer proper valuation of time passing.

Uh, I don't even want to know why you watching soaps. However, you shouldn't compare "The GOAT" to a soap opera. I expect more from a quality show.

It's still the best show on now but I don't know about being GOAT. The Wire had more intelligent writing. You can argue that it wasn't as consistent in being thrilling though.
 
Wun Wun got killed at the end of the Battle of the Bastards last season. I don't think that was the giant with the white walkers this season though...Not sure if there was more than one of them at Hardhome, but if there was, it was probably from there.

Wow. That mofo was damn near invincible. I got to catch up sometime, thx
 
outside of legends and stories most americans don't know about the civil war... just that it happened, nor do they have any of the skillsets and technology from that time. (how many army officers today know how to use a saber from horse back? how many gun owners know how to use a black powder revolver?)

shit look at Trump.... just a few months ago he demonstrated that he doesn't know or understand shit about the civil war

The great depression, the dust bowl, occurred for most here - to their grandparents and great grand parents
but look how many politicians and leaders forgot by 1995 about how and why both occurred. allowing Clinton and Bush administrations to strip away the financial protections and fed regulations put in place because of both incidents

No need for dragon lore when there are no dragons for 10 generations -most stopped believing and their knowledge /skills weren't passed on - only the stories and legends.
Almost all magic in Westeros was dormant until Danny hatched her eggs -
The maesters stopped truly studying magic (or suppressed it) which is why Quiburn was expelled
They are still hoarding the knowledge and restricting access to it.

Yea. Ain’t that a bitch. Civil war was for race, land and mf politics. Trump just a dumb ass. Btw white folk, it was you mf who pushed the civil war then afterwards didn’t want to acknowledge freemen. Make up yo fucking mind you culture robbing, invention theiving, wanna be us but never can be us, cave dwelling, raw meat eating pilfering and plundering mutant offspring of Satan devil worshipping moherfuckers :angry:
 
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I knew the writers were going to make it Sansa vs Jon,this season I don't understand it at all.First,she says they need to stick together yet she continues to challenge him in front of everybody.The sad part,they had this discussion just last week and she still does it.

I agreed with her,when she said they need to punished the Umbers and Karstark,but they need all the help they can get because of the way the North is at the moment.

She says one thing,but do the total opposite(reminds me of the ex)...makes no senses.

I will guaranteed you that,she will marry Petyr even though he fucked her over many times.

At least,she was honest about Tyrion,I was expecting her to say some exaggerating shit about him.

I can't stand Sansa and Daenerys....both need to die
Honestly nothing she has said since Jon became King was out of line. Most of it made a hell of a lot of sense for someone who never saw a white walker. She already know Baelish is full of shit and all she wanted was a chance to be heard. Now she can lead. I think she will be better than we think.
 
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