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2016-2017 NBA Playoffs is finally here..Spurs vs Dubs (0-4), Cavs vs Celtics(4-1)

Tha Great Muta said:
Ok y'all the basketball guys I'm gon take y'all word for it. They didn't stop the Pacers or Raptors so how the Cavs sweep em?????

Oh and the No.1 seed in the east are a bunch of pussies. I agree fuck Boston and all it's sports teams. But the Wizards would have have the Cavs a bigger challenge right???:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
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better talent and team; Cavs by far the best team in the east and they played like it; you can see it in their play; who is talking about the Wizards:hmm:why are you bringing them up:smh:; back to Boston, you do realize a #1 seed was about to get swept by #8 seed(until rondo got hurt) :lol:; Listen believe in your team its all good; i wont go back and forth with you or anyone else; no need; I will watch games like everyone else...
 
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largebillsonlyplease said:
Without a doubt a better team with Leonard
No question.

I saw that same squad blow out a team on the road by 40 in a close out game and niggas say patty mills is the future tho.

But like I said no question better with Leonard out there.
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Come on you can't compare the Rockets to the Warriors. Their coach is a quitter so and they don't have the first.ever unanimous MVP on their.squad
 
Day_Carver said:
better talent and team; Cavs by far the best team in the east and they played like it; you can see it in their play; who is talking about the Wizards:hmm:why are you bringing them up:smh:; back to Boston, you do realize a #1 seed was about to get swept by #8 seed(until rondo got hurt) :lol:; Listen believe in your team its all good; i wont go back and forth with you or anyone else; no need; I will watch games like everyone else...
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Hey homie like I've said before I only really watch the NBA during Christmas and the Finals. But niggas come up with all kinda woulda,coulda,shoulda reasons to shit on Bron and the Cavs.
 
RoadRage said:
Man it seems like the more LeBron wins the higher and higher they set the bar for him to pass Kobe and Jordan...
No way in anyones brain can you say Kobe is better than LeBron, sure he had more team success than LeBron but no way is a one time MVP and two time finals MVP anywhere close to what LeBron did, especially with LeBron being better in every stat, and destroying him in head to head match ups while playing in the same era..
But then again if you want to stay on TV the word out is that you do it by bashing LeBron for the white man...
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Stats. Stats. Stats.

Kobe is the only player in History with over 30k points, 6k assists and 6k rebounds. He also has nine All-NBA defensive first team awards.

Is Kobe in ANYBODY'S top five? He ain't even in mine. Why not? He got the STATS .... right? A combo of three statistical categories accumulated at a level NO ONE ELSE IN HISTORY accumulated, and no one got him in their top five.

He and Shaq got one MVP a piece, and Steve Nash got two. Is Nash greater than Kobe and Shaq because he got two MVPs to their one? I mean, he does have MORE? Having MORE is all that matters, or does CONTEXT matter a LIL' BIT?

If unprecendented all-around stats don't make Kobe top five, then why does Lebron having superior all-around stats make him better than Kobe? 'Cause you said so?

Style of play is style of play.

I'll give Lebron the nod over Kobe all-time, but everyone doesn't get caught up in the fact that you took upon yourself to do everything. Thats great, but it don't make you better. Kobe proved numerous times through his career that, if asked to, he can do everything, too. Jordan had the RECORD for most triple-doubles in a row. Neveraged averaged a double-double, tho'. He proved he could to it, but it just wasn't the way he preferred to approach the game.

Basketball is about greatness, but also winning.

Lebron has had numerous bites at the championship apple, and minus a few very lucky breaks, he'd be 2 out of 7, and some could really argue 1 out of 7. Bogut's interior d was a huge factor in the last Finals. He went down the series changed. I REMEMBER all the shit people were talking about Lebron's legacy. But, Bogut goes down, now Lebron and Cleveland can suddenly eat like they want, and all is forgiven.

I remember all the shit people talked about Lebron in that series the Spurs almost won. They had even roped off the damn court. Ray miss that three, and its completely over for them.

I'm sorry, but Lebron is a very inconsistent shooter. He is a rim attacker who has played in the WEAKEST era of interior defensive in NBA history.

Long story short, that nigga ain't better than no damn Michael Jordan!

The ONLY reason I take Lebron over Kobe is because Kobe's shot selection makes me uneasy. Even still, it didn't prevent him from becoming a legend ... so I should be over that. But, if Kobe had better shot selection, I'M EASILY taking him over Lebron, because Kobe could literally score from ANYWHERE on the court.
 
Tha Great Muta said:
Come on you can't compare the Rockets to the Warriors. Their coach is a quitter so and they don't have the first.ever unanimous MVP on their.squad
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But that's what you guys do.
He's the unanimous mvp when you want to illustrate a negative
And he ain't shit when it's time to illustrate a positive.

For the past 3 years if they win it's so what
If they lose its I told you so.

In one conference we need more ppl to go to the finals we tired of the same teams

In the other conference there is no such problem

For the record I'm not tired of the best teams playing each other.
 
largebillsonlyplease said:
But that's what you guys do.
He's the unanimous mvp when you want to illustrate a negative
And he ain't shit when it's time to illustrate a positive.

For the past 3 years if they win it's so what
If they lose its I told you so.

In one conference we need more ppl to go to the finals we tired of the same teams

In the other conference there is no such problem

For the record I'm not tired of the best teams playing each other.
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Now who exactly are you guys??? :lol:

I told y'all my sport is football the NBA IMO has went full WWF mode.

And for the record I like Curry I blame the media for trying to make him the face of the NBA when all he really is is a jump shooter. He's the greatest jumpshooter of all time for sure but his defense is blah.
 
Tha Great Muta said:
Now who exactly are you guys??? :lol:

I told y'all my sport is football the NBA IMO has went full WWF mode.

And for the record I like Curry I blame the media for trying to make him the face of the NBA when all he really is is a jump shooter. He's the greatest jumpshooter of all time for sure but his defense is blah.
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You're right
You don't really watch basketball until Christmas or the finals
 
Tha Great Muta said:
Now who exactly are you guys??? :lol:

I told y'all my sport is football the NBA IMO has went full WWF mode.

And for the record I like Curry I blame the media for trying to make him the face of the NBA when all he really is is a jump shooter. He's the greatest jumpshooter of all time for sure but his defense is blah.
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Football is more WFF than basketball
 
Excelsior said:
Stats. Stats. Stats.

Kobe is the only player in History with over 30k points, 6k assists and 6k rebounds. He also has nine All-NBA defensive first team awards.

Is Kobe in ANYBODY'S top five? He ain't even in mine. Why not? He got the STATS .... right? A combo of three statistical categories accumulated at a level NO ONE ELSE IN HISTORY accumulated, and no one got him in their top five.

He and Shaq got one MVP a piece, and Steve Nash got two. Is Nash greater than Kobe and Shaq because he got two MVPs to their one? I mean, he does have MORE? Having MORE is all that matters, or does CONTEXT matter a LIL' BIT?

If unprecendented all-around stats don't make Kobe top five, then why does Lebron having superior all-around stats make him better than Kobe? 'Cause you said so?

Style of play is style of play.

I'll give Lebron the nod over Kobe all-time, but everyone doesn't get caught up in the fact that you took upon yourself to do everything. Thats great, but it don't make you better. Kobe proved numerous times through his career that, if asked to, he can do everything, too. Jordan had the RECORD for most triple-doubles in a row. Neveraged averaged a double-double, tho'. He proved he could to it, but it just wasn't the way he preferred to approach the game.

Basketball is about greatness, but also winning.

Lebron has had numerous bites at the championship apple, and minus a few very lucky breaks, he'd be 2 out of 7, and some could really argue 1 out of 7. Bogut's interior d was a huge factor in the last Finals. He went down the series changed. I REMEMBER all the shit people were talking about Lebron's legacy. But, Bogut goes down, now Lebron and Cleveland can suddenly eat like they want, and all is forgiven.

I remember all the shit people talked about Lebron in that series the Spurs almost won. They had even roped off the damn court. Ray miss that three, and its completely over for them.

I'm sorry, but Lebron is a very inconsistent shooter. He is a rim attacker who has played in the WEAKEST era of interior defensive in NBA history.

Long story short, that nigga ain't better than no damn Michael Jordan!

The ONLY reason I take Lebron over Kobe is because Kobe's shot selection makes me uneasy. Even still, it didn't prevent him from becoming a legend ... so I should be over that. But, if Kobe had better shot selection, I'M EASILY taking him over Lebron, because Kobe could literally score from ANYWHERE on the court.
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The thing about LeBron is that his stats are much better, but the big vaule to LeBon is not his stats...
Let me explain, the two games he was sick and not up to par, Love and Irving had to have monster games and they barely won one game while losing the other, but look at the play of the Cavs bench and defense..
When LeBron was regular look how dominating the roll players looked.. To be honest Irving is the only Cavs player who does not need LeBron to make him play better, he allows Irving to play easier but Irving can get his with out James... The rest of them, including Love feeds off of the energy of LeBron..
Now Kobe was great, and as you said his shooting was very questionable at times, but to me he is closer to Irving, a guy who can score with anybody and could create his own shot, but when it comes to the other aspects of the game, making his teammates better, passing, rebounding, big block shots, big steals, playing big defense, LeBron is so much better than Kobe..
And this is no hater trying to slight Kobe at all... Kobe was great, lets not try to diminish what he is and what he's done, but I think its unfair to actually compare him with LeBron when you have players like Durant and Irving who his style is more similar to..
 
Excelsior said:
Stats. Stats. Stats.

Kobe is the only player in History with over 30k points, 6k assists and 6k rebounds. He also has nine All-NBA defensive first team awards.

Is Kobe in ANYBODY'S top five? He ain't even in mine. Why not? He got the STATS .... right? A combo of three statistical categories accumulated at a level NO ONE ELSE IN HISTORY accumulated, and no one got him in their top five.

He and Shaq got one MVP a piece, and Steve Nash got two. Is Nash greater than Kobe and Shaq because he got two MVPs to their one? I mean, he does have MORE? Having MORE is all that matters, or does CONTEXT matter a LIL' BIT?

If unprecendented all-around stats don't make Kobe top five, then why does Lebron having superior all-around stats make him better than Kobe? 'Cause you said so?

Style of play is style of play.

I'll give Lebron the nod over Kobe all-time, but everyone doesn't get caught up in the fact that you took upon yourself to do everything. Thats great, but it don't make you better. Kobe proved numerous times through his career that, if asked to, he can do everything, too. Jordan had the RECORD for most triple-doubles in a row. Neveraged averaged a double-double, tho'. He proved he could to it, but it just wasn't the way he preferred to approach the game.

Basketball is about greatness, but also winning.

Lebron has had numerous bites at the championship apple, and minus a few very lucky breaks, he'd be 2 out of 7, and some could really argue 1 out of 7. Bogut's interior d was a huge factor in the last Finals. He went down the series changed. I REMEMBER all the shit people were talking about Lebron's legacy. But, Bogut goes down, now Lebron and Cleveland can suddenly eat like they want, and all is forgiven.

I remember all the shit people talked about Lebron in that series the Spurs almost won. They had even roped off the damn court. Ray miss that three, and its completely over for them.

I'm sorry, but Lebron is a very inconsistent shooter. He is a rim attacker who has played in the WEAKEST era of interior defensive in NBA history.

Long story short, that nigga ain't better than no damn Michael Jordan!

The ONLY reason I take Lebron over Kobe is because Kobe's shot selection makes me uneasy. Even still, it didn't prevent him from becoming a legend ... so I should be over that. But, if Kobe had better shot selection, I'M EASILY taking him over Lebron, because Kobe could literally score from ANYWHERE on the court.
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Solid points....
 
RoadRage said:
The thing about LeBron is that his stats are much better, but the big vaule to LeBon is not his stats...
Let me explain, the two games he was sick and not up to par, Love and Irving had to have monster games and they barely won one game while losing the other, but look at the play of the Cavs bench and defense..
When LeBron was regular look how dominating the roll players looked.. To be honest Irving is the only Cavs player who does not need LeBron to make him play better, he allows Irving to play easier but Irving can get his with out James... The rest of them, including Love feeds off of the energy of LeBron..
Now Kobe was great, and as you said his shooting was very questionable at times, but to me he is closer to Irving, a guy who can score with anybody and could create his own shot, but when it comes to the other aspects of the game, making his teammates better, passing, rebounding, big block shots, big steals, playing big defense, LeBron is so much better than Kobe..
And this is no hater trying to slight Kobe at all... Kobe was great, lets not try to diminish what he is and what he's done, but I think its unfair to actually compare him with LeBron when you have players like Durant and Irving who his style is more similar to..
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Lebron has played in the weakest Eastern conference, arguably in the HISTORY of the NBA.

It has been PROVEN that Lebron is best around the basket, by FAR .... and he is in the weakest era for interior defensive.

Lebron set the game on easy TWICE ... by teaming up with TWO no. options on two seperate teams.

I still say that nigga don't want to compete. Nigga will do dunk displays in practice on cam and pre-game, but won't enter the dunk contest???

That nigga heart if made of fucking mush.

You think a coincidence that Lebron didn't start doing threes non-stop playoff runs the moment he teams up with two All-Stars?

...buuuut ... now the Warriors are on a similar streak. Why? MULTIPLE All-Star caliber players. WHAT make these niggas special? I know Lebron took a weak Cavs to the Finals, but so did Iverson. The Eastern Conference has been fucking WEAK, dude. Stop playing with me.

Kobe always had a challenge in the West. Rarely were the best players on his opponents teams injured.

If Kobe, in 2004, had joined up with two elite stars ... he'd have a tad more than five rings, bro'. Lebron can't be compared to Jordan and Kobe, 'cause they didn't pull the bitchass nigga shit he pulled to win.

This shit don't impress me. Y ou impressed by a nigga winning with mini-All Star teams? The nigga can't shoot, yet teams won't force him to shoot. What kind of weak ass NBA is this that won't force a known non-shooting nigga to shoot?

I truly believe Lebron is not as great in the 90s. Handchecking for a nigga who need to gain momentum to drive? An era with FAR better interior defense? All of that would weaken Lebron, 'cause we've SEEN IT weaken him ... and the TOP interior defenders from this era can't COMPARE to the top interior defenders from before.

The more I type, the more I think Lebron James is VERY hyped up. TALENTED, but when I look at this niggas career in context, its no wonder I never felt awed by his career. Its just a bunch of easy shit. Easy shots. Easy paths to the Finals. Easing the challenge by teaming up with multiple All-Stars. That shit don't amaze me. This nigga whole career look like its manufactured.
 
Excelsior said:
Lebron has played in the weakest Eastern conference, arguably in the HISTORY of the NBA.

It has been PROVEN that Lebron is best around the basket, by FAR .... and he is in the weakest era for interior defensive.

Lebron set the game on easy TWICE ... by teaming up with TWO no. options on two seperate teams.

I still say that nigga don't want to compete. Nigga will do dunk displays in practice on cam and pre-game, but won't enter the dunk contest???

That nigga heart if made of fucking mush.

You think a coincidence that Lebron didn't start doing threes non-stop playoff runs the moment he teams up with two All-Stars?

...buuuut ... now the Warriors are on a similar streak. Why? MULTIPLE All-Star caliber players. WHAT make these niggas special? I know Lebron took a weak Cavs to the Finals, but so did Iverson. The Eastern Conference has been fucking WEAK, dude. Stop playing with me.

Kobe always had a challenge in the West. Rarely were the best players on his opponents teams injured.

If Kobe, in 2004, had joined up with two elite stars ... he'd have a tad more than five rings, bro'. Lebron can't be compared to Jordan and Kobe, 'cause they didn't pull the bitchass nigga shit he pulled to win.

This shit don't impress me. Y ou impressed by a nigga winning with mini-All Star teams? The nigga can't shoot, yet teams won't force him to shoot. What kind of weak ass NBA is this that won't force a known non-shooting nigga to shoot?

I truly believe Lebron is not as great in the 90s. Handchecking for a nigga who need to gain momentum to drive? An era with FAR better interior defense? All of that would weaken Lebron, 'cause we've SEEN IT weaken him ... and the TOP interior defenders from this era can't COMPARE to the top interior defenders from before.

The more I type, the more I think Lebron James is VERY hyped up. TALENTED, but when I look at this niggas career in context, its no wonder I never felt awed by his career. Its just a bunch of easy shit. Easy shots. Easy paths to the Finals. Easing the challenge by teaming up with multiple All-Stars. That shit don't amaze me. This nigga whole career look like its manufactured.
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Please don't start talking that ESPN bullshit to me about the east being so weak and bla bla bla, because there is no way to test that shit.
If the east is so weak and easy that it skews players stats so dramaticly, why is it when players like Dwight Howard and countless other move from the east to the west or vice versa, their numbers don't jump up drastically?
Never thought about that have you? But your ok regurgitating the bullshit over and over again with out thinking....
Look LeBron numbers get better in the playoffs where the comp is greater than the regular season in the west during any era... Plus if you look at Kobe's greatest games, please list them for me if you wanna get owned, because all I would have to do is match them against LeBrons greatest games, and we will clearly see who did what vs great teams and who bottom feasted vs scrubs...
So unless you want me to go down that road, and by now you ought to know I will, son you need to fall back with that ESPN propaganda bullshit!!!
 
Ok, when are we creating that Cavs vs Warriors thread?????????????????

I been waiting for this shit since Durant signed!

I love any kind of competition when the stakes are high. Lebron wins this year, and that GOAT talk intensifies. Kevin Durant is on a Voltron Squad against a Voltron squad, trying to get his first.

This shit is almost too much, man.

How long we gotta wait???
 
Tha Great Muta said:
Klay been quiet than a muthafucka other than that one game where he scored however many points in 10 mins.

His groove might be all fucked up but who knows
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BeatDownRecords said:
That's the one ninja you should be scared of...

While y'all worrying about his offense y'all not realizing he's playing elite defense lol
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Man, I hope his momma call him Klay I'm a call him Klay STAYS off. I want to kill Golden State. I'm a Cavs fan and have been a Cavs fan for life. Born and raised in Cleveland, not Dayton, not one of the suburbs but Cleveland in the middle of the city. I want to see my boys celebrate again
 
Tha Great Muta said:
Now who exactly are you guys??? :lol:

I told y'all my sport is football the NBA IMO has went full WWF mode.

And for the record I like Curry I blame the media for trying to make him the face of the NBA when all he really is is a jump shooter. He's the greatest jumpshooter of all time for sure but his defense is blah.
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Curry just a shooter? You don't watch hoop :lol:
 
Tha Great Muta said:
Now who exactly are you guys??? :lol:

I told y'all my sport is football the NBA IMO has went full WWF mode.

And for the record I like Curry I blame the media for trying to make him the face of the NBA when all he really is is a jump shooter. He's the greatest jumpshooter of all time for sure but his defense is blah.
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Cheat Code defense is better than many folks seem to realize...same thing with uncle drew...lockdown naw...shit I'd put them way ahead of Harden. Seems like he don't even put forward effort at times.
 
Mask said:
Cheat Code defense is better than many folks seem to realize...same thing with uncle drew...lockdown naw...shit I'd put them way ahead of Harden. Seems like he don't even put forward effort at times.
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Day_Carver said:
No need to debate with fools pimp, feel me; im just happy cavs made it healthy
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mrJR said:
Curry just a shooter? You don't watch hoop :lol:
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Name calling huh??? We gon see....I'm be back in this thread after Game 1.
 
godofwine said:
Man, I hope his momma call him Klay I'm a call him Klay STAYS off. I want to kill Golden State. I'm a Cavs fan and have been a Cavs fan for life. Born and raised in Cleveland, not Dayton, not one of the suburbs but Cleveland in the middle of the city. I want to see my boys celebrate again
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I here you bruh. I want the Cavs to destroy GS. I want Lebron to once again lead everyone in every fucking thing. I want Love and Irving to show up and have people like :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

Because honestly, it's all on Irving and Love. Lebron is going to do his thing. Love and Irving have to play at a high level. Not really worried about Irving, but Love can make or break this finals. And fuck, it makes me :puke: to think this is riding on Love.
 
gene cisco said:
I here you bruh. I want the Cavs to destroy GS. I want Lebron to once again lead everyone in every fucking thing. I want Love and Irving to show up and have people like :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

Because honestly, it's all on Irving and Love. Lebron is going to do his thing. Love and Irving have to play at a high level. Not really worried about Irving, but Love can make or break this finals. And fuck, it makes me :puke: to think this is riding on Love.
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Man this will always be on Lebron, no matter what lil kev and uncle Drew does.
 
Mask said:
Naw bro I'm saying this as a fan of dude...
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Oh I get that. I'm talking about others man. Lebron could drop a triple double with 60 in a game 7 at GS and SOME folks will still shit on him.

:eek: "Jordan never had a game 7 in the finals!!!!"
 
gene cisco said:
Oh I get that. I'm talking about others man. Lebron could drop a triple double with 60 in a game 7 at GS and SOME folks will still shit on him.

:eek: "Jordan never had a game 7 in the finals!!!!"
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Right...no matter what do does it not good enough...he won last year, that's because the league suspended Mouf...instead of enjoying the moment, they complaining cause other to comment and the jurk circling never stops.
The real funny shit is when former NBA players knock Lebron. You talking that shit about him but dude just shitted on your whole career and you capping for Jordan.

Like you retired a few years ago, played against dude he likely best you but you're still yapping.

I mean who have multiple titles

Tony Parker
Manu
Wade
Bosh
James jones
Haslem
Norris Cole
Mario
Barbosa
Diaw

That's without researching, but you see the list...many hall talking and haven't even out did this cats, when it comes to comparing mike and Lebron. The decided things is always rings....

Ok...I got stop before talk start clowning me, about writing chapters
 

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