Hopefully KD is ok Zaza big clumsy ass oaf 
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Hopefully KD is ok Zaza big clumsy ass oaf
nah he was pushed into kd. it was an accident but that's what happened.
You didnt waste your time watching the game
; come on dude; it was a back to back and Wizards would clearly have more energy; they had lost 2 in a row and needed this one; and they lost KD; with all that the game was close and still could have won; all good...
You didnt waste your time watching the game
im never worried about a loss. im worried about bad habits. win or lose if they play the right way im fine every night.
They played sloppy early yes, that was to be expected; part was back to back; part was KD getting hurt; happens sometimes; but they got better as the game went on; plus wizs brought a lot of energy to the game; they had too; Outside of some turnovers and offensive rebounds, they were right there; remember wizs are 2nd or 3rd best team in the east; they should have beaten Cavs that last game; no shame in losing to wizs with what transpired...
I stated this a few times before there's a systems and being the systems...
Golden State runs a system vs Lebron(I'm just use him, there's been other) being the systems(who controls so much of the offense).
When Lebron dont play what happens, the team normally looks lost(grant the skill set don't helps much).
Golden state over the last two years is 138-24( 67-15, 73-9), before tonight's defeat the could've tied the record, by winning the last 20+ games(was 50-9).
So I'm give a brief 2 second diagnosis of the situation. I stand by what I said he's a piece, he's a great great piece but this farm been putting out grade A beef.
Bogut commits to signing with Cavs
In-demand center Andrew Bogut has committed to sign with the Cleveland Cavaliers upon clearing waivers Wednesday night.
Bogut's agent, David Bauman, confirmed his client's decision by phone in the wake of ESPN's initial report and says Bogut is scheduled to fly to Cleveland this week to prepare for a likely debut with the Cavs next week.
"It was a methodical process," Bauman told ESPN. "He wanted to talk to all the teams and he wanted to make sure he understood the role [in each situation].
"It was a lot closer than Andrew thought going into the process. As of this morning he wasn't sure what to do. He had a great talk last night, for example, with [Celtics coach] Brad Stevens."
Bauman said Bogut went out for a lengthy workout Tuesday afternoon in Dallas, then called him and said: "Cleveland just feels right."
"This gives Andrew a chance to get back to the Finals and prove to everyone he's the defensive player everyone knows he can be," Bauman said.
Houston, San Antonio and Boston had all shown interest in the 7-foot Australian.
Cleveland will have to release a player to create a roster spot to sign him after signing Bogut's former Dallas Mavericks teammateDeron Williams earlier this week.
After coming to terms Monday on a buyout with the Philadelphia 76ers, who acquired Bogut last week in the Nerlens Noel trade, Bogut spoke to representatives from the Rockets, Celtics and Spurs in recent days before settling on the Cavaliers, who were believed to be the favorite from the start.
In-demand center Andrew Bogut has committed to sign with the Cleveland Cavaliers upon clearing waivers Wednesday night.
Bogut's agent, David Bauman, confirmed his client's decision by phone in the wake of ESPN's initial report and says Bogut is scheduled to fly to Cleveland this week to prepare for a likely debut with the Cavs next week.
"It was a methodical process," Bauman told ESPN. "He wanted to talk to all the teams and he wanted to make sure he understood the role [in each situation].
"It was a lot closer than Andrew thought going into the process. As of this morning he wasn't sure what to do. He had a great talk last night, for example, with [Celtics coach] Brad Stevens."
Bauman said Bogut went out for a lengthy workout Tuesday afternoon in Dallas, then called him and said: "Cleveland just feels right."
"This gives Andrew a chance to get back to the Finals and prove to everyone he's the defensive player everyone knows he can be," Bauman said.
Houston, San Antonio and Boston had all shown interest in the 7-foot Australian.
Cleveland will have to release a player to create a roster spot to sign him after signing Bogut's former Dallas Mavericks teammateDeron Williams earlier this week.
After coming to terms Monday on a buyout with the Philadelphia 76ers, who acquired Bogut last week in the Nerlens Noel trade, Bogut spoke to representatives from the Rockets, Celtics and Spurs in recent days before settling on the Cavaliers, who were believed to be the favorite from the start.
How two uneasy moments made Cavs better equipped for Warriors
Prior to a Jan. 16 clash in Oakland between the Cleveland Cavaliers and Golden State Warriors, the defending champs had beaten their cross-country rival four straight times, including a historic Finals comeback and a Christmas Day thriller -- a game in which Golden State coughed up a 14-point fourth-quarter lead and ultimately lost by a point.
Even with the highly publicized addition ofKevin Durant, Cleveland still found a way to extend its winning streak over Golden State.
In the days leading up to that contest in January, something about the Cavs' demeanor didn't sit right with GM David Griffin. It's still unknown whether he suspected overconfidence or complacency with his group, but management felt that a humbling experience against the Warriors might be necessary for the team's growth moving forward.
And like clockwork, an embarrassing 35-point loss ensued, Cleveland's worst defeat of the season.
LeBron James and Kyrie Irving shot a combined 12-for-37 from the field. They each had six turnovers. James had a plus-minus of minus-32, the lowest in the game. Kevin Loveshot 1-for-6 for 3 points.
"I played like s---," James said while walking out of Oracle Arena. "I didn't have it tonight."
Griffin saw the concern on his guys' faces after the game. That's exactly what he wanted to see. Doubt had reappeared. James' comments came a week later.
In New Orleans on Jan. 23, after the Cavaliers' fifth loss in seven games, James told a group of local reporters that he hopes the franchise isn't satisfied with the collecting of one ring. He also had harsh, blunt critiques about the construction of the roster.
"We top-heavy as s---," James said. "It's me, [Irving], [Love]. It's top-heavy."
There was some uneasiness within the locker room following James' candid rant. Players were all of a sudden awkwardly left wondering if they were part of the problem or part of the solution.
Griffin fired back the next day, calling James' remarks "misguided."
Despite the internal conflict, with the liberty of hindsight, the front office now believes James was brilliant in lashing out and considers it one of the turning points in the season.
James had hoped that such a bold controversial assessment might galvanize the team. It appears that may be the case. Cleveland is 11-4 since and appears ready for a third straight push to the Finals.
The Warriors continue to be the ultimate motivator for the Cavaliers. It's been that way the past few years. Former Cavaliers coach David Blatt was fired partly because of the belief that he couldn't get the team past Golden State.
On a great day, the Warriors can go nine-deep in their rotation by inserting reservesAndre Iguodala, JaVale McGee, Shaun Livingston and David West. Potentially adding veteran point guard Jose Calderon is being viewed as an insurance policy. The Warriors have widely been considered the pound-for-pound kings of the NBA.
The Cavs, with recent additions of Kyle Korver, Derrick Williams and Deron Williams, who signed with the team Monday, can now argue that their hats belong in the ring.
When J.R. Smith and Love return to full health, Cleveland will have the capabilities of going up to 11 deep with subs Korver, Derrick Williams, Deron Williams, Channing Frye,Iman Shumpert and Richard Jefferson. And should a newly bought-out Andrew Bogut choose to join the Cavaliers, that rotation could shoot to 12.
It has the makings of the deepest roster James has possessed during his career. The Cavaliers' best lineup in recent weeks has centered around James, Korver, Jefferson, Derrick Williams and Frye. It's a cerebral roster with flexibility and versatility.
James has the help he called out for, and Griffin now has that sense of urgency back in his locker room.
Griffin on the team's shift, told ESPN "it's joyful to watch." And speaking of watching, the Warriors and Cavaliers monitor each other throughout the season very closely, although they won't admit it. Each transaction is discussed and made with the other in mind.
These two powerhouses desperately want a third consecutive Finals showdown. In 2015, Love and Irving were sidelined with injuries and the Warriors won in six. In 2016,Draymond Green was suspended for Game 5 and the Cavaliers came back from 3-1 to capture their first championship.
Each side being whole for the duration of the Finals is what could make Cavaliers-Warriors III something special. Health isn't promised, but barring a disastrous turn of events, a much-anticipated Round 3 looks to be on its way.
Prior to a Jan. 16 clash in Oakland between the Cleveland Cavaliers and Golden State Warriors, the defending champs had beaten their cross-country rival four straight times, including a historic Finals comeback and a Christmas Day thriller -- a game in which Golden State coughed up a 14-point fourth-quarter lead and ultimately lost by a point.
Even with the highly publicized addition ofKevin Durant, Cleveland still found a way to extend its winning streak over Golden State.
In the days leading up to that contest in January, something about the Cavs' demeanor didn't sit right with GM David Griffin. It's still unknown whether he suspected overconfidence or complacency with his group, but management felt that a humbling experience against the Warriors might be necessary for the team's growth moving forward.
And like clockwork, an embarrassing 35-point loss ensued, Cleveland's worst defeat of the season.
LeBron James and Kyrie Irving shot a combined 12-for-37 from the field. They each had six turnovers. James had a plus-minus of minus-32, the lowest in the game. Kevin Loveshot 1-for-6 for 3 points.
"I played like s---," James said while walking out of Oracle Arena. "I didn't have it tonight."
Griffin saw the concern on his guys' faces after the game. That's exactly what he wanted to see. Doubt had reappeared. James' comments came a week later.
In New Orleans on Jan. 23, after the Cavaliers' fifth loss in seven games, James told a group of local reporters that he hopes the franchise isn't satisfied with the collecting of one ring. He also had harsh, blunt critiques about the construction of the roster.
"We top-heavy as s---," James said. "It's me, [Irving], [Love]. It's top-heavy."
There was some uneasiness within the locker room following James' candid rant. Players were all of a sudden awkwardly left wondering if they were part of the problem or part of the solution.
Griffin fired back the next day, calling James' remarks "misguided."
Despite the internal conflict, with the liberty of hindsight, the front office now believes James was brilliant in lashing out and considers it one of the turning points in the season.
James had hoped that such a bold controversial assessment might galvanize the team. It appears that may be the case. Cleveland is 11-4 since and appears ready for a third straight push to the Finals.
The Warriors continue to be the ultimate motivator for the Cavaliers. It's been that way the past few years. Former Cavaliers coach David Blatt was fired partly because of the belief that he couldn't get the team past Golden State.
On a great day, the Warriors can go nine-deep in their rotation by inserting reservesAndre Iguodala, JaVale McGee, Shaun Livingston and David West. Potentially adding veteran point guard Jose Calderon is being viewed as an insurance policy. The Warriors have widely been considered the pound-for-pound kings of the NBA.
The Cavs, with recent additions of Kyle Korver, Derrick Williams and Deron Williams, who signed with the team Monday, can now argue that their hats belong in the ring.
When J.R. Smith and Love return to full health, Cleveland will have the capabilities of going up to 11 deep with subs Korver, Derrick Williams, Deron Williams, Channing Frye,Iman Shumpert and Richard Jefferson. And should a newly bought-out Andrew Bogut choose to join the Cavaliers, that rotation could shoot to 12.
It has the makings of the deepest roster James has possessed during his career. The Cavaliers' best lineup in recent weeks has centered around James, Korver, Jefferson, Derrick Williams and Frye. It's a cerebral roster with flexibility and versatility.
James has the help he called out for, and Griffin now has that sense of urgency back in his locker room.
Griffin on the team's shift, told ESPN "it's joyful to watch." And speaking of watching, the Warriors and Cavaliers monitor each other throughout the season very closely, although they won't admit it. Each transaction is discussed and made with the other in mind.
These two powerhouses desperately want a third consecutive Finals showdown. In 2015, Love and Irving were sidelined with injuries and the Warriors won in six. In 2016,Draymond Green was suspended for Game 5 and the Cavaliers came back from 3-1 to capture their first championship.
Each side being whole for the duration of the Finals is what could make Cavaliers-Warriors III something special. Health isn't promised, but barring a disastrous turn of events, a much-anticipated Round 3 looks to be on its way.
god I want the warriors to mash these niggas up so badly...I still can't fathom how cats really think dwill and bogut give them a better shot @ competing w/ GS lol smh
Wizards gonna be a problem for the Cavs if they play like this in the playoffs. But thats the big question, can they play like that in a playoffs series?
Theyve had some good playoff battles in the past, but they also had a different team in the past.
Theyve had some good playoff battles in the past, but they also had a different team in the past.
I tried to look at the signing of Dwill from a non Lebron fan standpoint.
I first thing I came up with was he been hurt since he left Utah.
He can't defend, so he's useless.
As I explored those thoughts, I came to a road block that said, "Hold up buddy, Deron is not coming to be a stater, he's only coming to spare Lebron of being the point guard for the second unit".
At this point my thoughts switch back to reality, if he's not the starter be probably gonna play 15 to 20 mins at the most. He's not a ball dominating point guard, he's top 20 all time in assist.
(I just looked at his numbers for the year he's at 6.9 assist)
So will he directly help the Cavs vs the monstars we don't know, be along the way indirectly Lebron should be fresher just by freeing him of those 2nd team point guard duties. Remember James is the league leader in minutes play as a 14 year vet.
Now just say I haven't seen Dallas play this year so I don't know how dude look, so I'm going look at highlights.
What's the cavs record when Lebron don't play? Them niggas lost every last game he ain't play..
If Bron goes down them niggass are finished
I know what he's coming there to do...I still don't think it closes the gap anywhere near enough for cleveland to compete w/ GS in a 4 game series
I think the wizs will compete but they don't play good enough defense; maybe win 2 games in the series.....
Looking at this clip, I see a pure point guard...yea it's a highlight tape so I understand that
Damn, now thinking about it, I'm wonder where they hate for dude comes from.
If his ass can still be this affective mannnn, fuck Lue probably can slide Kyrie to the 2 and Dwill at the 1...
Pg. Deron
Sg. Uncle drew
Sf. Shump
Pf. Lebron
C. Tristan
Damn, now thinking about it, I'm wonder where they hate for dude comes from.
If his ass can still be this affective mannnn, fuck Lue probably can slide Kyrie to the 2 and Dwill at the 1...
Pg. Deron
Sg. Uncle drew
Sf. Shump
Pf. Lebron
C. Tristan
again I understand the signing...but them needing another guard and getting dwill doesn't equate to them now being able to compete w/ the warriors...I think these sports writers are just tryna hype up the inevitable cavs vs warriors III matchup
This issue is the shit that won't appear on any highlight clip tho... Everybody looks good on their highlight clips fam...
I never said 17 I said that if they will have to find ways of creating more shots if they want to keep their numbers close to what they were, and to Durant and Draymond credit they stepped up their defense and rebounding allowing them to take more shots..
But even so, their offense still isn't as automatic as it was last year, but to me its no biggie being that the defense is actually better..
right...they just solidified their position in the east mostly
His ass won't be in the game long enough for those things to effect the outcome of the game bro...
I agree with all of this, especially the defensive lineup against the dubs work better.
I'm say these two things and will try to go post something Pyt pictures....
*Derrick Williams might be the biggest pickup....if they don't release him to sign bogut!!!
* Deron Williams on the Cavs two yeaRs ago in the finals...ummmm we might've went to game 7!!!
Shit I felt Dion Waiters would've help, so u know Deron could've.
Lebron ass couldn't even sit during timeouts
I agree with all of this, especially the defensive lineup against the dubs work better.
I'm say these two things and will try to go post something Pyt pictures....
*Derrick Williams might be the biggest pickup....if they don't release him to sign bogut!!!
* Deron Williams on the Cavs two yeaRs ago in the finals...ummmm we might've went to game 7!!!
Shit I felt Dion Waiters would've help, so u know Deron could've.
Lebron ass couldn't even sit during timeouts
No way Derrick Williams gets cut, he is everything they need from that position he just needs the right set up guys to play with, and his athleticism and length is perfect for playing with LeBron.
Y'all bout to lose y'all playoff spot to the Mavs
I can feel it
Neither one of us want that
This should be Lue setup lineup...within that 7 to 4 1/2 mintues left in the game, until jr comes back...
Shump
Krover
Lebron
Derrick
Fyre
Then come with the closers
Kyrie
Shump
Jefferson
Lebron
TT
Man I'm gone, fucking with y'all we didn't even talk about Westbrook triple double or Wall's 19 dimes
Man y'all tripping
Shump
Krover
Lebron
Derrick
Fyre
Then come with the closers
Kyrie
Shump
Jefferson
Lebron
TT
Man I'm gone, fucking with y'all we didn't even talk about Westbrook triple double or Wall's 19 dimes
Man y'all tripping
I was thinking about Bogut on the Cavs and wonder how this jumbo lineup would fare vs the Warriors, Bogut, Thompson, Love, James, Irving..
I know its slow and my have problems keeping up on defense, but they will be a rebounding machine and hell in the paint causing all types of miss matches for the G.S.
I know its slow and my have problems keeping up on defense, but they will be a rebounding machine and hell in the paint causing all types of miss matches for the G.S.
See there u go with bullshit again; that lineup is horrible; TT and bogut are useless offensively and neither will stretch the floor; therfore the lane is clogged and limits lbj and irving; how they gonna penetrate? Dude just stop it....
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