Exactly
Cuz our pick gonna be top 18
Even if we miraculously sneak in the 8th seed we still would pick like 15th.
The deal is basically Anderson and 2 second round picks
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Exactly
Cuz our pick gonna be top 18
Even if we miraculously sneak in the 8th seed we still would pick like 15th.
The deal is basically Anderson and 2 second round picks
Let me go find the worst pic I can of Shaq
Shaq looks like shit and unhealthy as hell. He's lost weight and still looks terrible, especially for someone who's dark skin. You would never know he's only 44.
Shaq look like shit too lol. Javale shit just genetics. Shaq shit just from fucking up some hog mog fat back.
I read we gotta go 27-1 to give them a first rounder. 76ers think they slick reporting the trade as a first rounder lol. Mavs essentially got Noel for nothing. I'm in amazement. I'm one of the Mavs harsher critics as I think we all are but that really is a good move.
hawks suspend schrouder for fucking up his paper work and missing pratice after all star break
the ny shits get a chartered flight for Rose who was in his feelings, disappeared missing a game and didnt suspend or fine him
there is a reason why they are the ny shits
the ny shits get a chartered flight for Rose who was in his feelings, disappeared missing a game and didnt suspend or fine him
there is a reason why they are the ny shits
Yep it's been a while since we clearly won a trade and you know I'm the #1 critic.
I don't know what Noel or Anderson end up being but here is what I do know Noel fits a need as a young athletic defensive big and Anderson was never going to develop on this team
So for that alone it's a no brainer
Mavs got the #7 pick from the 2012 draft in Barnes who is 24
And the #6 pick from 2013 in Noel who is 22
We never get to pick that high so to have young talent like that never happens. Hopefully we have a top 10 pick this season to add into that mix to get a young guard and now we talking
I have to give Cuban/management props for that trade; fuck his dumb ass though; but the Sixers are dumb as fuck; I really dont know what these gms be thinking sometimes; Im not going to even comment on Vlade dumb ass....
DeMarcus Cousins: No point in talking to Kings brass about 'coward move'
Despite saying he's "not sour ... not mad" about being traded to the New Orleans Pelicans, DeMarcus Cousins has resentment about the way things went down Sunday and has no desire to talk to Sacramento Kingsowner Vivek Ranadive or general manager Vlade Divac.
"Nah. For what?" Cousins told The Undefeated's Marc J. Spears on Thursday. "It was a coward move, so I'm pretty sure I will get a coward response. For what? And I've seen this happen before. I've been there through all same types ... I was there with [coach] Mike Malone's [firing]. I've seen how they operate. I know what kind of answer I will get anyway. So, what is the point?"
Moments after playing in the NBA All-Star Game, Cousins found out he and Omri Casspi had been traded by the Kings to the Pelicans for rookie Buddy Hield, Tyreke Evans, Langston Galloway, a 2017 first-round pick and a 2017 second-rounder.
Cousins, who said he had been told by the Kings that he wouldn't be traded, became emotional after hearing the news.
"I haven't cried in a long time," Cousins told The Undefeated. "... It hit me like, 'This s--- is really happening.' It was something that I never expected to happen. I was also told [a trade] wouldn't happen, so ..."
Cousins, who said it was "good to just get back to basketball," scored 27 points in his Pelicans debut on Thursday night. He told The Undefeated that he was more hurt by leaving behind everything that he had built up in Sacramento.
"I'm more hurt by that," Cousins said. "Being away from those relationships and the community, I'm more hurt by that because of the dishonesty and all that s--- with the organization."
Despite saying he's "not sour ... not mad" about being traded to the New Orleans Pelicans, DeMarcus Cousins has resentment about the way things went down Sunday and has no desire to talk to Sacramento Kingsowner Vivek Ranadive or general manager Vlade Divac.
"Nah. For what?" Cousins told The Undefeated's Marc J. Spears on Thursday. "It was a coward move, so I'm pretty sure I will get a coward response. For what? And I've seen this happen before. I've been there through all same types ... I was there with [coach] Mike Malone's [firing]. I've seen how they operate. I know what kind of answer I will get anyway. So, what is the point?"
Moments after playing in the NBA All-Star Game, Cousins found out he and Omri Casspi had been traded by the Kings to the Pelicans for rookie Buddy Hield, Tyreke Evans, Langston Galloway, a 2017 first-round pick and a 2017 second-rounder.
Cousins, who said he had been told by the Kings that he wouldn't be traded, became emotional after hearing the news.
"I haven't cried in a long time," Cousins told The Undefeated. "... It hit me like, 'This s--- is really happening.' It was something that I never expected to happen. I was also told [a trade] wouldn't happen, so ..."
Cousins, who said it was "good to just get back to basketball," scored 27 points in his Pelicans debut on Thursday night. He told The Undefeated that he was more hurt by leaving behind everything that he had built up in Sacramento.
"I'm more hurt by that," Cousins said. "Being away from those relationships and the community, I'm more hurt by that because of the dishonesty and all that s--- with the organization."
Lakers Advised Not To 'Gut' Team To Trade For Paul George
FEB 24, 2017 2:39 PM
While the future of Paul George wasn't decided at the deadline, his preference of options became somewhat clear.
George will strongly consider signing with the Los Angeles Lakers in 2018 if the Indiana Pacers aren't in contention for a title.
"Here's the issue with Paul George: he's made it clear that if he's going to leave Indiana, he's going home to L.A.," said Wojnarowski. "He grew up in southern California. Big Kobe Bryant fan. His dad is a big Magic Johnson fan. Obviously Magic is running the organization now.
"The direction that I was told that the Lakers got in the last couple of days was 'hey, don't gut your team to go get Paul George.'
"Magic Johnson did lob a call to Larry Bird, but if you're the Lakers and you don't have a tremendous amount of assets, they have some young players they hope will develop. They're going to sit back and wait to sign him as a free agent. They're going to have cap space in 2018.
"If they were to try to trade for him, they would have to give up the core of their team and Paul George is going to have no one to play with there.
"I think this is how the Pacers are looking at this. All things being equal, they know that Paul George would rather be in L.A., but they are not equal."
If George doesn't qualify for the supermax contract, the Pacers can sign him to a five-year, $180 million deal while a rival team can sign him to a four-year, $132 million deal.
The Nuggets were essentially warned that George will sign with the Lakers in 2018 if they trade for him.
FEB 24, 2017 2:39 PM
While the future of Paul George wasn't decided at the deadline, his preference of options became somewhat clear.
George will strongly consider signing with the Los Angeles Lakers in 2018 if the Indiana Pacers aren't in contention for a title.
"Here's the issue with Paul George: he's made it clear that if he's going to leave Indiana, he's going home to L.A.," said Wojnarowski. "He grew up in southern California. Big Kobe Bryant fan. His dad is a big Magic Johnson fan. Obviously Magic is running the organization now.
"The direction that I was told that the Lakers got in the last couple of days was 'hey, don't gut your team to go get Paul George.'
"Magic Johnson did lob a call to Larry Bird, but if you're the Lakers and you don't have a tremendous amount of assets, they have some young players they hope will develop. They're going to sit back and wait to sign him as a free agent. They're going to have cap space in 2018.
"If they were to try to trade for him, they would have to give up the core of their team and Paul George is going to have no one to play with there.
"I think this is how the Pacers are looking at this. All things being equal, they know that Paul George would rather be in L.A., but they are not equal."
If George doesn't qualify for the supermax contract, the Pacers can sign him to a five-year, $180 million deal while a rival team can sign him to a four-year, $132 million deal.
The Nuggets were essentially warned that George will sign with the Lakers in 2018 if they trade for him.
NBA Trade Deadline Winners & Losers
BY MICHAEL PINA
FEB 23, 2017 6:10 PM
Here’s our list of winners and losers leading up to Thursday’s NBA trade deadline.
Losers:
Bryan Colangelo
Heading into the trade deadline, it was no secret that the Philadelphia 76ers had to unclog their frontcourt by moving either Nerlens Noel or Jahlil Okafor. The good news is they found a home for one of them. The bad news is they traded the wrong one and barely got anything valuable back.
Noel, presumably the superior on-court fit with Joel Embiid (even though the two have barely played together), was shipped to Dallas for Justin Anderson and a first-round pick in this year’s draft that turns into two second rounders next season if it falls inside the top 18 slots, which it won’t do. This is an atrocious haul for Philadelphia.
Anderson is a 23-year-old sophomore who’s made 28.8 percent of his three-point attempts as an NBA player. There’s springy bounce to his game, and he technically fills a sought after position, but his inability to crack Dallas’ rotation is worrisome. He’s on a rookie-scale contract for the next two seasons, but will likely never touch Noel’s positive impact.
The fact that Colangelo couldn’t get a first-round pick for a useful, steadily improving 22-year-old who’s about to enter restricted free agency should scare Sixers fans—especially after he publicly stated his desire to avoid bad deals for the sake of making any transaction at all. This is the exact opposite of a trade Sam Hinkie would’ve made, and Sam Hinkie was very, very, very good at his job.
Indiana Pacers
We don’t know what offers Larry Bird saw for Paul George, but there’s a good chance he at the very least had Brooklyn’s 2017 first-round pick staring him in the face. Instead of taking it and punching the eject button, he’s apparently opted to drive off a cliff, praying George will re-sign in Indiana when he becomes a free agent in 2018.
Being that the Pacers are very far from winning a championship, aren’t located in Los Angeles, and don’t have any interesting trade assets except Myles Turner on their roster, there’s almost no chance he sticks around for the long haul. George isn’t qualifying for a Designated Player Extension this summer unless he’s named to an All-NBA team, which is highly unlikely. If he makes an All-NBA team next year, the Pacers will be able to offer a five-year mega contract that financially dwarfs anything any other team can give—including the Lakers.
But that’s quite the risk, and instead of kickstarting a rebuild with a lottery pick in a loaded draft, Bird increases the risk of either letting George walk for nothing, or moving him when the entire league knows he has to.
Chicago Bulls
Almost everything written above about the Pacers also applies to the Bulls, except they have Jimmy Butler under contract for an extra season and can likely still move him if they want to this summer.
The Bulls land on this list less for their inability to cash out and rebuild, and more for their total lack of direction they exude on a daily basis. They traded Doug McDermott, Taj Gibson, and a 2018 second-round pick to the Oklahoma City Thunder for Cameron Payne, Joffrey Lauvergne, and Anthony Morrow.
This is peak blah, a trade that doesn’t nudge them in either direction—actually it probably makes them a tiny bit worse because Gibson is terrific—and throws even more mud on the type of playing style they prefer to play. Chicago, the worst three-point shooting team in the league, needs three-point shooting because the year is 2017 and every team in the NBA needs more three-point shooting.
How do they address this? By of course trading McDermott, their best three-point shooter! Nobody knows if Payne will shake out as anything more than a career backup point guard, Morrow is stuck in a season-long shooting slump and Lauvergne isn’t long for Chicago.
Given how fast and free some teams threw around first-round picks over the past couple weeks, it’s a bit surprising that the Bulls couldn’t get one for Gibson. If Payne doesn’t pan out this could be a mini-disaster for Chicago.
Sacramento Kings
Well, besides the obvious, Sacramento is the biggest, fattest loser on Thursday afternoon because in addition to losing DeMarcus Cousins for a dozen soggy beignets, no other trades were made before the deadline. Wasn’t the decision to move on from Cousins a clear precursor for roster renovation? Instead, they held onto Darren Collison, Arron Afflalo, Kosta Koufos, Garrett Temple, and Ben McLemore.
It’s plenty fair to look at those names and scoff at their market value. But the Kings aren’t exactly in a place to worry about selling low on a depreciating asset. Their front office’s job right now is to find as many future assets as they can, regardless of how bad it looks.
Detroit Pistons
Not that anyone should’ve expected them to trade Reggie Jackson, Andre Drummond, or Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, but this core appears to have teetered out sooner than expected. It’s easy to sit here on the sidelines and say they should’ve aggressively attempted to blow it up, but...they should’ve aggressively attempted to blow it up.
Winners:
Nerlens Noel
He gets to leave Philadelphia and see what a competent NBA organization feels like. In Dallas, Noel will start, play big minutes and set himself up for a huge payday this summer—especially if the Mavericks make the playoffs.
This dude is good, and should remind Dallas fans of Tyson Chandler, the pick-and-roll big who sucked help defenders into the paint and opened things up around the three-point line. While his fit with Dirk Nowitzki is what most people will likely focus on, it’ll be extremely interesting to see how he does at the five when Harrison Barnes is a small-ball four.
Rick Carlisle should be licking his lips.
Houston Rockets
Nobody is enjoying Magic Johnson’s reign in Los Angeles more than Daryl Morey. After the Rockets acquired Lou Williams for a late first-round pick—in a deal that also allowed them to shed Corey Brewer’s unsightly contract—they moved Tyler Ennis to the Lakers for Marcelo Huertas, who they’ll waive.
Morey also unloaded K.J. McDaniels onto the Brooklyn Nets, clearing a second roster spot and opening up an extra $3.3 million in cap space. This is significant, and allows Houston to be major players on the buyout market, where they’ll be allowed to offer prospective free agents like Andrew Bogut and Terrence Jones more money than any other contender can.
Williams makes sense in a potential matchup against the Golden State Warriors if you buy into the theory that the only way to beat them is to score more points (meaning defense isn’t necessary), and in that deal they opened an extra $500K because Brewer’s contract was, somehow, more expensive.
Surprise, surprise: Morey wins again!
Toronto Raptors
The Raptors did what they had to do by upgrading at power forward—Jared Sullinger and Pascal Siakam to Serge Ibaka is a sweet facelift—and, at least defensively, improving the wing by replacing Terrence Ross with P.J. Tucker.
These are very nice moves on paper, and Toronto didn’t sacrifice enough assets to accurately claim their status is “all in”. But how much better are they, really? Will these moves bump them up to the three seed so they can avoid a second-round torture rack against the Cleveland Cavaliers? Maybe, maybe not.
If not, and they’re one and done, Toronto is staring down a pair of massive contracts this summer with Kyle Lowry and Ibaka (not to mention Patrick Patterson). All in all, the Raptors made the best of a tricky situation. It’s not enough to win a title, but these moves were necessary and helpful.
Charlotte Hornets
Aside from the ludicrous Miles Plumlee trade, Michael Jordan didn’t shank himself in the side by sacrificing any more future assets to needlessly thrust Charlotte into the playoffs. Good for him. Restraint is good!
BY MICHAEL PINA
FEB 23, 2017 6:10 PM
Here’s our list of winners and losers leading up to Thursday’s NBA trade deadline.
Losers:
Bryan Colangelo
Heading into the trade deadline, it was no secret that the Philadelphia 76ers had to unclog their frontcourt by moving either Nerlens Noel or Jahlil Okafor. The good news is they found a home for one of them. The bad news is they traded the wrong one and barely got anything valuable back.
Noel, presumably the superior on-court fit with Joel Embiid (even though the two have barely played together), was shipped to Dallas for Justin Anderson and a first-round pick in this year’s draft that turns into two second rounders next season if it falls inside the top 18 slots, which it won’t do. This is an atrocious haul for Philadelphia.
Anderson is a 23-year-old sophomore who’s made 28.8 percent of his three-point attempts as an NBA player. There’s springy bounce to his game, and he technically fills a sought after position, but his inability to crack Dallas’ rotation is worrisome. He’s on a rookie-scale contract for the next two seasons, but will likely never touch Noel’s positive impact.
The fact that Colangelo couldn’t get a first-round pick for a useful, steadily improving 22-year-old who’s about to enter restricted free agency should scare Sixers fans—especially after he publicly stated his desire to avoid bad deals for the sake of making any transaction at all. This is the exact opposite of a trade Sam Hinkie would’ve made, and Sam Hinkie was very, very, very good at his job.
Indiana Pacers
We don’t know what offers Larry Bird saw for Paul George, but there’s a good chance he at the very least had Brooklyn’s 2017 first-round pick staring him in the face. Instead of taking it and punching the eject button, he’s apparently opted to drive off a cliff, praying George will re-sign in Indiana when he becomes a free agent in 2018.
Being that the Pacers are very far from winning a championship, aren’t located in Los Angeles, and don’t have any interesting trade assets except Myles Turner on their roster, there’s almost no chance he sticks around for the long haul. George isn’t qualifying for a Designated Player Extension this summer unless he’s named to an All-NBA team, which is highly unlikely. If he makes an All-NBA team next year, the Pacers will be able to offer a five-year mega contract that financially dwarfs anything any other team can give—including the Lakers.
But that’s quite the risk, and instead of kickstarting a rebuild with a lottery pick in a loaded draft, Bird increases the risk of either letting George walk for nothing, or moving him when the entire league knows he has to.
Chicago Bulls
Almost everything written above about the Pacers also applies to the Bulls, except they have Jimmy Butler under contract for an extra season and can likely still move him if they want to this summer.
The Bulls land on this list less for their inability to cash out and rebuild, and more for their total lack of direction they exude on a daily basis. They traded Doug McDermott, Taj Gibson, and a 2018 second-round pick to the Oklahoma City Thunder for Cameron Payne, Joffrey Lauvergne, and Anthony Morrow.
This is peak blah, a trade that doesn’t nudge them in either direction—actually it probably makes them a tiny bit worse because Gibson is terrific—and throws even more mud on the type of playing style they prefer to play. Chicago, the worst three-point shooting team in the league, needs three-point shooting because the year is 2017 and every team in the NBA needs more three-point shooting.
How do they address this? By of course trading McDermott, their best three-point shooter! Nobody knows if Payne will shake out as anything more than a career backup point guard, Morrow is stuck in a season-long shooting slump and Lauvergne isn’t long for Chicago.
Given how fast and free some teams threw around first-round picks over the past couple weeks, it’s a bit surprising that the Bulls couldn’t get one for Gibson. If Payne doesn’t pan out this could be a mini-disaster for Chicago.
Sacramento Kings
Well, besides the obvious, Sacramento is the biggest, fattest loser on Thursday afternoon because in addition to losing DeMarcus Cousins for a dozen soggy beignets, no other trades were made before the deadline. Wasn’t the decision to move on from Cousins a clear precursor for roster renovation? Instead, they held onto Darren Collison, Arron Afflalo, Kosta Koufos, Garrett Temple, and Ben McLemore.
It’s plenty fair to look at those names and scoff at their market value. But the Kings aren’t exactly in a place to worry about selling low on a depreciating asset. Their front office’s job right now is to find as many future assets as they can, regardless of how bad it looks.
Detroit Pistons
Not that anyone should’ve expected them to trade Reggie Jackson, Andre Drummond, or Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, but this core appears to have teetered out sooner than expected. It’s easy to sit here on the sidelines and say they should’ve aggressively attempted to blow it up, but...they should’ve aggressively attempted to blow it up.
Winners:
Nerlens Noel
He gets to leave Philadelphia and see what a competent NBA organization feels like. In Dallas, Noel will start, play big minutes and set himself up for a huge payday this summer—especially if the Mavericks make the playoffs.
This dude is good, and should remind Dallas fans of Tyson Chandler, the pick-and-roll big who sucked help defenders into the paint and opened things up around the three-point line. While his fit with Dirk Nowitzki is what most people will likely focus on, it’ll be extremely interesting to see how he does at the five when Harrison Barnes is a small-ball four.
Rick Carlisle should be licking his lips.
Houston Rockets
Nobody is enjoying Magic Johnson’s reign in Los Angeles more than Daryl Morey. After the Rockets acquired Lou Williams for a late first-round pick—in a deal that also allowed them to shed Corey Brewer’s unsightly contract—they moved Tyler Ennis to the Lakers for Marcelo Huertas, who they’ll waive.
Morey also unloaded K.J. McDaniels onto the Brooklyn Nets, clearing a second roster spot and opening up an extra $3.3 million in cap space. This is significant, and allows Houston to be major players on the buyout market, where they’ll be allowed to offer prospective free agents like Andrew Bogut and Terrence Jones more money than any other contender can.
Williams makes sense in a potential matchup against the Golden State Warriors if you buy into the theory that the only way to beat them is to score more points (meaning defense isn’t necessary), and in that deal they opened an extra $500K because Brewer’s contract was, somehow, more expensive.
Surprise, surprise: Morey wins again!
Toronto Raptors
The Raptors did what they had to do by upgrading at power forward—Jared Sullinger and Pascal Siakam to Serge Ibaka is a sweet facelift—and, at least defensively, improving the wing by replacing Terrence Ross with P.J. Tucker.
These are very nice moves on paper, and Toronto didn’t sacrifice enough assets to accurately claim their status is “all in”. But how much better are they, really? Will these moves bump them up to the three seed so they can avoid a second-round torture rack against the Cleveland Cavaliers? Maybe, maybe not.
If not, and they’re one and done, Toronto is staring down a pair of massive contracts this summer with Kyle Lowry and Ibaka (not to mention Patrick Patterson). All in all, the Raptors made the best of a tricky situation. It’s not enough to win a title, but these moves were necessary and helpful.
Charlotte Hornets
Aside from the ludicrous Miles Plumlee trade, Michael Jordan didn’t shank himself in the side by sacrificing any more future assets to needlessly thrust Charlotte into the playoffs. Good for him. Restraint is good!
man roller coaster of emotions from you in the last 3 pages alone
I don't believe he's eligible to go back there.
This is from an LAC blog writer:
"Here's the point: the NBA's No-Re-Acquirement Clause that many are citing as blocking Andrew Bogut from re-signing with the Warriors doesn't apply to this situation. The wording of the clause essentially says that if Team X trades a player to Team Y, and then team Y cuts that player, team X cannot sign him for the rest of the cap year. What the clause doesn't spell out is what happens if team Y trades that player to team Z, and then team Z cuts him. By the letter of the law, in this scenario, team X would not be prohibited from signing the player back within the same salary cap year.
To put names and faces on those variables, the Warriors obviously traded Bogut to the Mavs. They wouldn't be able to sign him again if the Mavs cut him. But since the Mavericks traded him to Philly, and Philly is cutting him, he can, in theory, return to the Warriors."
I feel the 8 seed slipping away and I don't know what to do. I get that 8 seed is not the goal but I miss playoff basketball. 10 years in a row to missing out completely. I'm having withdrawls as a fan.
I feel the 8 seed slipping away and I don't know what to do. I get that 8 seed is not the goal but I miss playoff basketball. 10 years in a row to missing out completely. I'm having withdrawls as a fan.
you're right in all of your reactions though no judgement here lol
jalen brown is going to special
Man FUCK THE RAPTORS!!!they been playing like shit....
http://www.nba.com/video/2017/02/24/0021600854-lac-gsw-warriors-50-pts-3rd
I cant figure out how to post this video fuck
Noel gone...
No Embiid...
No Simmons...
Rashaun Holmes with 'Noel-like' numbers - 12pts/10rbs/5 blks/2stls
Starting line up - Okafor, Saric, Covington, Henderson, McConnell....
Beat the 3rd best team in the division, wire to wire end to end beating... up by as much as 19... never really challenged in this game by these motherfuckers...
TJ McConnell stripping motherfucker straight up to shut the game down...
Dropped an easy buck 20 on these motherfuckers...
Actually won the season series against these motherfuckers...
Niggas need to shut the fuck up and worry about their own teams...
Just saying....
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More bitchassness. Dude sounds like his feelings are really hurt behind this! LMAO!
Shaq caught a case of the Twitter fingers
Shaq is beyond a clown at this point.
Props to Durant for sticking up for his teammate... even tho if he was buggin with some of the shit he was saying..
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that's all he was just popping shit sticking up he did kinda fuck him up with this tho
"I didn't know cops could threaten civilians like that"
as soon as cp3 comes back blake acts so helpless i don't get it
wide open shots he just passes them up to give it back to cp3 to try and do something with it.
wide open shots he just passes them up to give it back to cp3 to try and do something with it.
Wade dunkin. Niggas
I still would rather have Sanders because the problem with Thompson is that he is a undersized center at 6-9 and Jones is also undersized for at the 5 at 6-9 Bogut is a ligit center but has problems on the switch offs rotations, Sanders is 6'11 with decant foots speed and very athletic, according to the Cavs he killed it at his work out, but then again that can just be talk.
But if he is in shape he is the best candidate for them.
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