NBA Offseason 2016 - FreeAgency money dried up...Waiters gets $2.6 after OKC pulled $6+ offer...

So let me see


Irving, McRae, Mo
Jr, Shum
James, Jefferson
Cousins, Fyre, Jones
TT, Khau


Irving,McRae,Mo
Jr,Shum
James,Ariza
Love,Jefferson,Jones
TT,Fyre,Khau

I was thinking about matching up against the dubs, in crunch time

Curry - Irving
Klay - Jr/Shum
Iggy - Jefferson
KD - Ariza
Green - James

Mum have to go check out boogie's defense against pick and rolls and screen coverage to see if he's a better defender than TT on those situations


I don't konw man. Boogie is a 1st tier talent. Arguably the best big man in the league. Kevin Love.....he's a 2nd tier or 3rd tier player at this point and Trevor Ariza is a journeyman. Though a solid journeyman but I wasn't that impressed with him in the post season.
 
So u felt the same when lbj teamed up with bosh and wade? U felt the same when arguably last year top 3 free agent LA went to spurs? Come on dude..other than the money thing, this is today's nba
Bron (and Bosh) went to Miami and BUILT a contender. Bron camt from an incompetent franchise who in 7 years surrounded him with a Boobie Gibson and Mo Williams as his best side kick. KD was on a contending team with two top 5 NBA players, and went to an existing contender, and 73 win powerhouse one year removed from a title, that he just lost to after being up 3-1. The situations are nothing alike. Sorry.
 
good old post @ day carver...I underestimated bogut's value since I hardly saw GS play...but I remembered this discussion so when bogut went down in the finals I knew it'd be an issue for GS...a lil bit of foreshadowing in this old thread I'm reading
I think it's gonna hurt them in the short term unless they bigs play better than expected..but in the playoffs they will be fine...
 
"While Durant’s scoring is well-known, his defense is vastly underrated. Of the nearly 300 players that contested at least 250 shots last season, Durant led all of them in field goal percentage allowed as opponents shot 33 percent when contested by Durant."
If its possible for the 2nd best player in the world to be underrated then he is. Would have MUCH preferred he had gone to the paper clips. Woulda been a perfect fit.
 
Russell Westbrook Has No Interest In Extension With Thunder
JUL 4, 2016 10:46 PM

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Russell Westbrook has no interest in working on a renegotiation and an extension of his current contract with the Oklahoma City Thunder.

Westbrook is scheduled to be a free agent in 2017.

Westbrook could re-sign with the Thunder but he doesn't believe it makes sense financially to do the renegotiation to improve his salary for 16-17 and an extension.

Without a longer term commitment from Westbrook after losing Kevin Durant, the Thunder could consider their trade options this offseason.

Sam Presti said he has not communicated with Russell Westbrook via phone, but said they've exchanged text messages and Westbrook has spoken with other staffers.

"I've been attending to other parts of my duties," Presti said, "but I'll talk with Russell and the other guys here probably either tonight or tomorrow."



why in the fuck would he do that dumb shit with all the money on the table next year? lol he gonna sign a 139m dollar deal? does it look like he wears an afro wig?
 
If Wade can't fit to their style of play than they need to switch up their style of play lol.
Nah, at this point of his career Wade is on that old man ball, this slows down the tempo of the game by requiring him to dribble all day running out the shot clock... There are was too many shooters on that team to try to run that type of an offense...
As far as them getting Dirk, nah it would be a redundant role that Love is playing, minus the rebounds...
What they need to do is sign JR, work with Love on increasing the release speed of his jumper and from there hold pact making adjustments via trades during the regular season...
I would also like for them to develop their draft pick guard to fill Delly shoes, I think he can be a nice off set speed demon pure point, as well as develop and work with Jordan McRae, a player who I think can develop into something really nice, especially if he can fit into their defensive system...
As far as super stars they don't need big names to win...
 
These niggas really gon make me stop watching this shit. :smh:

I can't even really act like it bugs me cuz once football start I'm not gonna watch a basketball game until xmas...then once football over I not gonna check for basketball again until maybe the playoffs and for sure the finals
 
I can't even really act like it bugs me cuz once football start I'm not gonna watch a basketball game until xmas...then once football over I not gonna check for basketball again until maybe the playoffs and for sure the finals
True.

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This move would make no sense what so ever other than to sell seats.... Wade is great but his style of play does not fit with the Cavs system of play..
They panicking man. :smh: Lull ain't playing about that flight though, so there is a good chance it might be announced soon. :smh:
 
Some people may believe the Wade to Cleveland move would be a strong counter to will Golden State just did, I actually pump the brakes on that. What Makes Wade great is his ability at the end of games to take over. That's what he does, he's not a Lockdown Defender, not a great passer, but he's a good go-to guy at the end of games. I completely see him and Kyrie blending like water and oil. For either of them to be effective in crunch time, the other one is going to have to take a backseat and become irrelevant. Both of them also a rhythm players, two or three possessions to get hot and then it's a wrap from there. This deal if it happens may cause more confusion than anything else. That's the difference between Durant going to Golden State and Wade going to Cleveland. Durant has already played with Westbrook so he's Adept at playing off the ball still being extremely effective. Also, Golden State's offense is predicated on movement and open looks. Even though Cleveland one, if you look at some of the games like the game they played and Kyrie and LeBron took them they're all of the shots in the second half, they are more of an ISO offense. They're going to negate Kyrie or Wade, so you still basically have two players at the end of the game because the other one is going to have to sacrifice. And LeBron is going to do LeBron so the rest is going to possibly be chaos.
 
They panicking man. :smh: Lull ain't playing about that flight though, so there is a good chance it might be announced soon. :smh:
They have to do something. Lebron the GM failed big time. Wiggins would have been a blessing skill Wise and salary.

No one wants Thompson and Kyrie is off limits. That leaves love.

With Wade, if he does go. I see a sign and trade for Wade and Love. The salaries match also.
 
They panicking man. :smh: Lull ain't playing about that flight though, so there is a good chance it might be announced soon. :smh:
Panick?! Nigga everyone should panick!

A 73 win championship team 1 nut punch away from back2back titles just added the second best player in the world, a top ten defensive player, a top 15 all time nba player, and the 3rd best scorer of all time.. In one guy...who happens to be 7 feet tall and can score from anywhere on the court !!!

Yea muthafucka, it's panick time.
 
Panick?! Nigga everyone should panick!

A 73 win championship team 1 nut punch away from back2back titles just added the second best player in the world, a top ten defensive player, a top 15 all time nba player, and the 3rd best scorer of all time.. In one guy...who happens to be 7 feet tall and can score from anywhere on the court !!!

Yea muthafucka, it's panick time.
Yeah it is hard for people to accept the reality.
 
LeBron can counter Golden State by bringing Dwyane Wade to Cleveland
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The Cavs and Warriors are in an arms race, and it's Cleveland's turn to make a move.
By Dieter Kurtenbach
Jul 5, 2016 at 7:30a ET

The NBA is a two-team league now, and at this moment, the Cleveland Cavaliers look particularly overmatched by Kevin Durant and the Golden State Warriors.

The team that won 73 games last regular season and came within minutes of winning a second-straight title over the Cavs in effect made a trade Monday -- Andrew Bogut and Harrison Barnes for Durant and center Zaza Pachulia. It's a trade any smart general manager doesn't hesitate to make.

It's a "trade" that puts the Warriors -- already the favorites to win the NBA title for the second time in three years -- in a position of nearly unprecedented power. Golden State has an unfair level of talent on its team, and it ransacked their top competitor -- perhaps their only worthy adversary -- in the Western Conference to acquire the piece de resistance of the NBA's latest superteam.

Yes, Golden State ended Oklahoma City's title hopes while simultaneously and superfluously improving their own chances to win. The NBA is a cruel business.

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Boston should be the second-best team in the Eastern Conference next year, but they are not on the same level as the Cavs -- they're not even that close. As of today, it appears that it would take an injury to LeBron James (and perhaps more) for Boston to represent the Eastern Conference in the 2017 NBA Finals.

The San Antonio Spurs don't match up with the Warriors, who boast two of the top three, and four of the 12 best players in the NBA, all of which are in their primes. Unless Kawhi Leonard makes a Currian leap in offensive production next year, and Tony Parker and Pau Gasol find their legs from the early part of the decade, the Warriors' Death Lineup -- which is now apocalyptic with Durant playing power forward -- will run the Spurs off the court.

No, this league of 30 teams is in all actuality a two-team race. We're on a collision course with Cavs-Warriors III, and LeBron can't look at what's happening in Oakland and like his chances in that rubber match.

The King needs to counter. He can't get a player of Durant's caliber -- the Cavs currently have no salary cap room to add a big-time free agent -- but he can get chasers to join him in Cleveland.

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The Warriors and Cavs are now in a penny-ante arms race. It's a quest to see who can get the best players with the paltry options available to them -- minimum-value contracts and mid-level exceptions.

The Warriors will need to fill as many as five spots with minimum contracts; the Cavs may add as many as three minimum deals.

The values of the contracts might be low, but the stakes couldn't be higher -- If Cleveland doesn't land better players to fill out their bench than Golden State does, the Warriors will become even more prohibitive favorites to win the title.

LeBron needs to pull out the stops for this one. He needs to use every tool at his disposal and liquidate every ounce of goodwill he has.

He can start by convincing Dwyane Wade to come to Cleveland.


Those close to the situation in Miami say that Wade is "hurt" and "angry" at how contract negotiations with the Heat have unfolded. ESPN reported Monday that Wade has a two-year, $40 million deal on the table from Miami, but with the way things have gone down, it might no longer be about the money for him. Wade was loyal to the Heat for the better part of a decade, taking less than his open-market value to help the team sign and keep key players and continue winning, but he expected that loyalty to be repaid this season. Instead, Miami's brass took out another mortgage against Wade's lifer status.

(To be fair to Pat Riley and company, Miami didn't have much choice -- Hassan Whiteside's contract situation put the Heat in a precarious scenario.)

Wade has given every indication to the Heat that he's not going to wait for them to do right -- he's leveraging his free agency to get more out of Miami, though it doesn't appear that Miami has much more to offer. The showdown should be over by now.

That said, Miami doesn't (and shouldn't) take threats of big contract offers coming from Milwaukee and Denver seriously -- Wade isn't going to leave Miami for the Nuggets and Bucks.

But he might leave for his good buddy, LeBron.

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There are two ways Wade can sign with the Cavs, one is easy to do and difficult to imagine, the other is difficult to do and equally tricky to fathom


First, Wade could sign with Cleveland for the league minimum or Cleveland's mini mid-level exception, worth about $3.5 million. Is Wade so angry with Miami that he'll tarnish his reputation in Miami —€” he's inarguably the most important player in Heat history —€” and take a massive pay cut of at least $16.5 million? It's hard to see that happening, but the option is on the table.

Or, Cleveland could pay Wade more -- but not what the Heat are offering -- by moving either Kevin Love or Iman Shumpert, or by renouncing LeBron's massive $29 million cap hold.

It'd be a risky move. The Cavs cannot sacrifice a single player in this arms race with Golden State, so trading someone to make room for Wade isn't a good move. Cleveland has a title-winning base —€” it needs to add to that, not subtract.

Having LeBron take less money would also work —€” if he was renounced but re-signed with the Cavs, he would still have full Bird rights next year, entitling him to a supermax deal —€” but that would only free up roughly $9 million in cap space, from which the Cavs would have to sign both Wade and James. LeBron, who has a massive deal with Nike padding his pockets, could sign a minimum contract after being renounced and giving Wade the remainder, though that would still be less than half of what Miami was offering.

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Frankly, it seems like a stretch for Wade to play for Cleveland, and yet it remains a viable option. The only questions that remain are: is Wade serious about leaving Miami, and if so, how much is he willing to sacrifice to help his friend? (And how much is his friend willing to sacrifice in return?)

Clearly, it won't be easy, but LeBron needs to make a splash, and right now, the biggest splash he can make is landing Wade in Ohio.

http://www.foxsports.com/nba/story/...rumors-news-how-lebron-warriors-durant-070516
 
Panick?! Nigga everyone should panick!

A 73 win championship team 1 nut punch away from back2back titles just added the second best player in the world, a top ten defensive player, a top 15 all time nba player, and the 3rd best scorer of all time.. In one guy...who happens to be 7 feet tall and can score from anywhere on the court !!!

Yea muthafucka, it's panick time.
get them currys out.. You need 3 pair this season
 
Letting JR walk and signing Wade would be a good move for Cleveland. If Miami looses Wade that's a huge loss especially when they could have easily resign him. With Bosh health is up in the air it's probably in Wade's best interest to bounce. Cleveland needs to counter GS. I still think Love needs to be replaced but I wouldn't bring in Melo. Cousins is the only star caliber player they probably can flip for Love or possibly Milsap if the Hawks don't think they can keep him.
 
Letting JR walk and signing Wade would be a good move for Cleveland. If Miami looses Wade that's a huge loss especially when they could have easily resign him. With Bosh health is up in the air it's probably in Wade's best interest to bounce. Cleveland needs to counter GS. I still think Love needs to be replaced but I wouldn't bring in Melo. Cousins is the only star caliber player they probably can flip for Love or possibly Milsap if the Hawks don't think they can keep him.

I would absolutely trade melo for love... As for Wade well he does have that 100 mill Chinese show contract.. He ain't hurting for money..

I've said will cavs let JR walk for Wade? And is Wade willing to take less? I mean he opted out when Bron didn't give him a answer he was going back to the cavs..
 
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I would absolutely trade melo for love... As for Wade well he does have that 100 mill Chinese show contract.. He ain't hurting for money..

I've said will cavs let JR walk for Wade? And is Wade willing to take less? I mean he opted out when Bron didn't give him a answer he was going back to the cavs..

Since Bron and Wade are talking, it might be about Bron and Wade taking less to get another title. It's still crazy to me that they are meeting up here. Those damn cheap asses in Miami really might have fucked up once again. :smh:
 
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