I can go with complete. The team doesn't have any weaknesses.
Has Steph Curry supplanted LeBron as the 'Best Player in the World?' (CP Alert)
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I can go with complete. The team doesn't have any weaknesses.
Yes. Right now i have him above Stockton &Thomas.
Thank you complete is the term
Okc is stacked. Westbrook Durant ibaka Adams a starting center in canter coming off the damn bench.
The Spurs stacked their roster they have Leonard and maxed out aldridge. Have 3 hof at the end of their careers but a hof at the end is better than a 2nd tier role player in their prime.
Etc etc
I don't yet. He's climbing the charts he's top 10 possibly
He did.Bit it's not the steals alone that make the difference.
There were 23 teams in the league.
Magic led the league in steals.... AND... He was grabbing MORE Defensive Rebounds than half the Centers and Power Forwards in the league at the same time.
Curry is not doing that.
That's the big difference.
Then add on the fact that Magic could DEFEND all 5 spots on the floor.
See what I mean?
If magic was 6ft 3 could he defend all 5 positions on the floor?
See what I mean?
There's a big difference between Steph Curry & Magic Johnson, as far as 'defense' goes...
Because Magic could DEFEND all 5 positions.
He played BOTH sides of the ball, at every spot.
Not just offense alone.
2x NBA Playoffs steals leader (1980, 1982)
2x NBA Playoffs total steals leader (1980, 1983)
Curry cannot DEFEND power forwards & centers (down in the paint) like Magic could.
You do realize Magic Johnson is 6 foot 9?
Magic was a freak of nature playing the point guard position.
Let's stop the foolishness...GSW is stacked. Klay, Draymond, plus a 6th & 7th man that would start for half the teams in the league.
That's Curry's problem.
The issue / debate is about being the GOAT.
Not about height.
Name the teams, NOT BUM TEAMS EITHER, quality teams that their 6th & 7th man would start for. Livingston before he came to GS was coming off the bench behind Deron Williams?!?!?! C'mon Son!?!?!
What has ANY of the other 9 Warrior players done before coming to GS to support the fact that this team is stacked?!!? Name one who was deemed even a star, besides maybe Iggy, who was a decent player here in Philly, YEARS ago.. Dude is old as fuck!
You've got freaking Ian Clark getting minutes, Mo Speights? A 75 year old Barbosa? A nigga named Festes? Stacked?
What makes the Warriors a great team is THEIR COACH!!! Niggas hate on Kerr, but it's not easy to come up with a system, AND get all the players to buy in to it...
Stacked!!?!?! Shit is hilarious
Starts and ends with their Coach Bruh... He's the one who implemented the system and convinced all players to buy into their role... Kerr is an amazing coach point blank!
That's Curry's problem.
The issue / debate is about being the GOAT.
Not about height.
Which proves my point that Magic is/was a better defender than Curry.
Better defensive rebounder.
And more versatile on the defensive side of the ball.
So tell me... why didn't LeBron say this same 'Most Valuable doesn't mean Best player' shit when he was winning the award? I see he has you fooled by that passive aggressive bullshit he constantly pulls too!
That's Curry's problem.
The issue / debate is about being the GOAT.
Not about height.
Which proves my point that Magic is/was a better defender than Curry.
Better defensive rebounder.
And more versatile on the defensive side of the ball.
Curry is more versatile on the offensive side of the ball.. and his offense advantage is greater than Magics defensive advantages so...
Klay is superstar shooting damn near 50 percent from 3 while averaging over 27. Green is a legit star and a triple double machine. They an organic big three that developed there. If Curry doesn't exist, Klay would have the shooting records for the season and be right up there for the playoffs. Why is he underrated by some? Folks would be saying....
"Is Klay maybe the best shooter ever? He has the records?" Then people always talk about how deep they are, but now they aren't? First and second team all-nba defenders?Curry is an amazing shooter, but Lebron transforms squads. There's a reason why Iggy had to be MVP of the finals last year: Lebron.
Name the teams, NOT BUM TEAMS EITHER, quality teams that their 6th & 7th man would start for. Livingston before he came to GS was coming off the bench behind Deron Williams?!?!?! C'mon Son!?!?!
What has ANY of the other 9 Warrior players done before coming to GS to support the fact that this team is stacked?!!? Name one who was deemed even a star, besides maybe Iggy, who was a decent player here in Philly, YEARS ago.. Dude is old as fuck!
You've got freaking Ian Clark getting minutes, Mo Speights? A 75 year old Barbosa? A nigga named Festes? Stacked?
What makes the Warriors a great team is THEIR COACH!!! Niggas hate on Kerr, but it's not easy to come up with a system, AND get all the players to buy in to it...
Stacked!!?!?! Shit is hilarious
Kerr didn't come up with a system, that's Mike D'Antoni's system. Their starting lineup has 4 lottery picks in it & all those guys perform. If we're going to say SA stacked their roster, the Warriors have just as much talent if not more due to youth.
Iggy was offered more by my Mavs than GS in free agency...he'd definitely start here had he come and every team in the division outside of San Antonio. Immediate upgrade at the 3 over who any of us have.
At the rate he is going in his career so far, he may very well be the best or at least nominated for consideration, but he just need more time to solidify his status as the greatest. Tenure matters in sports just like in the work world.
I ask you, should Steph be crowned the greatest shooter in the NBA, how would that measure against those who had a better overall game? Where will he fare amongst the rest of the NBA greats on the all time list? For me, a glorified one trick pony is still a one trick pony at the end of the day which comes with a glass ceiling.
you said it...
this is BSPN go to move and its getting tired.
He said what has BEEN said for decades by BSPN talking heads for years...
and btw he was right.
We really need our own bgol sports podcast.
Then add on the fact that Magic could DEFEND all 5 spots on the floor.
Be able to physically do something doesn't mean your good at it. Magic defended centers a handful of times his entire career. He wasn't good at it and he didn't do it routinely. if you centers was fouled out or you had injuries, you could make it work for short periods of time if the opponents center was below average offensively . He defended PGs unless they were good and then Riley would move Byron Scott or Cooper over to them. Magic was the usually the worst defender on the starting 5... even Worthy was a better defender. He was just big..which gave you more options. nothing more.
Not like he was Rodman locking down multiple positions.
If Magic was a good defender, he would have made an all defensive team. He was average at best and below average at worst.
What is a few more seasons?
And playing good doesn't equate to him winning championships. It certainly give him a better chance but doesn't guaranteed a championship.
You ask a loaded question and expect definite answer
Oh. I don't even think this is up for debate anymore. Anyone that was even close (reggie, allen) not only shoot at a lower clip on less volume, they also did it off the ball coming off screens where they can scare up. Curry is often doing his damage off the dribble. Quantitatively and qualitatively, he's gonna have that locked up.
They werent before they came to gsw thats the entire point.
Nobody wanted Livingston nobody wanted to kick the tires he said it himself he was being cut by 20 win teams.
Iggy came from Philly they were done with him he had years and years as a starter and we saw what he did. It looks better because that 12 points is big off the bench but your starting 3 can't average 12 points and 4 assists.....even with more minutes what was his max in the nba as the man 18ppg?
Barbosa prime was in Phoenix he's not starting anywhere.
Ppl gave up on bogut for dead.
I can keep going.
Complete yea. Stacked with undeniable talent that means they'd start for half the league? Hell naw. Let's be honest.
Livingston in position to start and play heavy minutes for curry didn't sniff 20 points did he in the perfect system for him.
Now me saying all of this doesn't mean I don't think they're good. They are. But the were not game changing valuable commodities when the warriors picked them up.
I said 4 more years. So have two MVP seasons and four more seasons putting up similar numbers. A 6 year run of being arguably the league's best player while winning multiple MVPs and NBA Finals.
That's Curry's problem.
The issue / debate is about being the GOAT.
Not about height.
Which proves my point that Magic is/was a better defender than Curry.
Better defensive rebounder.
And more versatile on the defensive side of the ball.
It is if you inject something into the argument that was based on height and nothing else.
Which is what you tried to do.
On paper, do you look at the Warriors and say "got-damn!"
Like when Lebron went to the Heat and you saw Lebron, Wade, Bosh, and Allen in the starting line up, that's stacked.. multiple hall of famers with two of them being in their prime.
On paper, when you look up and down the warriors squad, it doesn't jump off the screen. All the pieces work together, but if you put these guys on other teams, are they better players on other teams? I'm not sure about that.
Klay is superstar shooting damn near 50 percent from 3 while averaging over 27. Green is a legit star and a triple double machine. They an organic big three that developed there. If Curry doesn't exist, Klay would have the shooting records for the season and be right up there for the playoffs. Why is he underrated by some? Folks would be saying....
Curry is an amazing shooter, but Lebron transforms squads. There's a reason why Iggy had to be MVP of the finals last year: Lebron.
Klay can get those shots because curry is on the court green has the space to do whatever he needs to do because curry is on the floor.
See you start that underselling stuff too.
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An amazing shooter and that's it right? That's all he does well? Lol
Klay is superstar shooting damn near 50 percent from 3 while averaging over 27. Green is a legit star and a triple double machine. They an organic big three that developed there. If Curry doesn't exist, Klay would have the shooting records for the season and be right up there for the playoffs. Why is he underrated by some? Folks would be saying....
Curry is an amazing shooter, but Lebron transforms squads. There's a reason why Iggy had to be MVP of the finals last year: Lebron.
So Kyrie and Love are.... nevermind Dude... Peace
Excuse him. He doesn't even realize what he's doing.
Being big enough to defend the center position (on occasion) doesn't mean you're good at it. Being versatile gives your teams more options, but doesn't mean your good at the thing that you have to do short-term. If just means your a big body that can be used. You're versatile. Versatile is a statement on usability not quality of use. There are players in the NBA now that can range out and defend 4-5 positions.
But at any one position, Magic wasn't good at defending any of them. He was just a below average defender that could but put on a lot of defenders. But he was below average at all of them.
No they allow curry to do his thing
He doesn't allow them to do anything lol
Literally 2 ppl in the nba get people easy baskets just because they're on the court
Lebron and curry.
That's his built in excuse lmaooo
It's simple... Cavs have 2 playmakers and GS got 9
Yet Gene thinks that series going 7 games
That's Curry's problem.
The issue / debate is about being the GOAT.
Not about height.
If Magic was so great on Defense, how come he never made any all defense teams?
From the looks of it, Magic's greatest defensive achievements were being defensive steals leader twice in the league. Kinda like how Curry lead the league in steals this year.
Right. And my thing is that can't be in the argument across heights.
Like you can use that argument against Durant with Lebron
Lebron can guard 1-5 and Durant cannot.
That's a fair comparison.
I need to see him consistently lock down opponents, make more steals, assists and add more finesse to his game in order for me to consider him a candidate for GOAT status. Being a great scorer is good for entertainment purposes and I don't want to downplay his accomplishments, but I just can't see him surpassing LeBron, let alone Jordan , Magic and even Mamba. In time, maybe I will see more. But, for now, he is a excellent shooter which is a lil one dimensional to be in the discussion among the all time greats. I wanna see what happens 5 years from now and see how his overall game evolves.
See how folk fault Steph because the GM actually knew what he was doing building the team lmaoo
He's been hurt this year and playoffs. And he's fragile. He's doing great. He needs to keep doing it. All it takes is a major injury to all go away. Jordan got six rings all defense teams, more MVP's, sat out two years and came back on a three peat. That's nuts. That's very hard to live up to
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