thats most of the state... there are a lot of GREAT towns upstate especially along the Delaware River and the HudsonAccurate! Lol.
What NYkers consider upstate behooves me. Parts of "Upstate" is still downstate considering the large size of NY state.
I was in the Hudson Valley and motherfuckers don't lock their doors. At least in the lil rural suburb I was in.
I like it better than Penn but Pa is just cheaper... so one day I'm heading there or Va Maryland Carolinas or Ga to live