BGOL review .. BATMAN V SUPERMAN... (thoughts, summary, spoilers)
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Reading outside the movie... You find out that it was Flash, but if you just watched the movie.. You would have no idea.
I honestly didn't know who it was while I watching it and the movie... I told my boy that it couldn't have been the flash because dude was in a mechanical suit. I originally assumed that it was the Blue Beetle.
Damn I didn't even think about that.... Do you mind if I add this my list of questions on this movie. That's a good point.
You just broke down damn near every plot hole in the movie. Kinda makes you feel that this film could have been split into two parts. Maybe they rushed it because Batman wasn't originally meant to be in the film. Someone was spit balling and threw out what if we have Batman in the film. So much unexplained shit came up during the film.
it actually looked like Bunker. Maybe it was a Flashpoint set up.
Jesse seemed more like a pre-Joker than a Lex.
The whole flash drive issue was dumb too. They never explain how Lex knew everything he knew and how he got the information. How did he even get footage of Aquaman. And when the Flash was in the store, is Lex the only person with that footage? I assume since it was captured on camera, the owners of the store would have it too. Cyborg concept looked cool.
Nothing was left of Victor but his upper torso. Wish they would have used to capsule to sustain him on life support like in the animated movie. I feel like if I haven't seen the DC animated films I wouldn't know what the hell was going on.
also, another reason it seemed rush and jumbled, this could be considered smart and corney, but they kind of gave us the introduction of the other characters, without having to explain much. and how many fucking times do we need to see Bruces parents get killed?
correct me if im wrong, but why was Wonder Woman photographed with men? I thought she was a from a place where they didnt associate with men.
correct me if im wrong, but why was Wonder Woman photographed with men? I thought she was a from a place where they didnt associate with men.
i dont know if i can tolerate another solo batman movie. who is he going to fight? after this, who can really challenge him? some little psychotic human from earth?
Exactly....
If you didn't have a preexisting knowledge of the films... you would have no clue. Hell you still don't have a clue even if you do have a pre-existing knowledge of the film.
I guarantee that if this movie was about anyone other then Superman or Batmen like "The Phantom"... no one would be defending this. As a action movie.. the film is ok. As a world building superhero movie, it is a complete failure. The only thing that it did right was make me interested in Suicide Squad (new trailer) and Wonder Woman's new movies. I'm not interested in Justice League... Hell they are going have to spend a good chunk of the movie bringing Superman back. Let alone.... making the other characters believable individually.
They never mentioned it... AT ALL..
If the defaced Robin Suit is Jason Todd, then they can use the Red Hood in a story line, hopefully they show the flashback of the Joker beating Todd with the crowbar in suicide squad.
now that would be cool.
That would require DC to have some sort of plan for this shit. Which they apparently don't.
We could only pray for this.
I have more faith in David Ayer making a proper plan, since he is writing and directing the film.
http://collider.com/suicide-squad-batman-ben-affleck-david-ayer/
While the marketing campaign for Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice is ramping up in a big way (click here for Ben Affleck and Henry Cavill’s thoughts on Superman’s power advantage), Warner Bros. isn’t neglecting its other 2016 superhero film, Suicide Squad. The studio has unveiled a new image from director David Ayer’s film, which turns the focus on the baddies of the DC Cinematic Universe as a group of villains are enlisted by a government official—Amanda Waller, played by Viola Davis—to deal with a mysterious adversary. The film brings together characters lesser known to general audiences like Deadshot (Will Smith), Captain Boomerang (Jai Courtney), and Killer Croc (Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje), but it also deals with iconography in the form of Harley Quinn (Margot Robbie) and, of course, Jared Leto’s new Joker.
For Ayer, who also wrote the film himself, playing with the bad guys offers the film a unique opportunity in the realm of superhero movies (via USA Today):
“We all need good guys and everything — yay, good guys — but at the end of the day, they’re kinda boring,” the Fury director says. “They’re always going to do the right thing. When you’re dealing with the baddies, it’s easy to get ahead of the audience and invert expectations.”
Image via Warner Bros.
He added that the Joker transcends good and evil, saying he’s “the king of Planet Joker”, but Ayer also got to play with another coveted character in the DC toybox: Ben Affleck’s Batman. We saw the character (played by a stunt double) on the streets of Toronto shooting scenes with the Batmobile, but Ayer reveals that during Affleck’s one day on set, he put the actor to work:
“We made him fight,” the director says with a laugh. “He’s awesome (as Batman). … You really sense that but for the grace of God he himself would be doing some really foul stuff out in the world.”
Affleck himself even weighed in on the movie and the fact that he’s part of this massive DC Cinematic Universe:
“It felt like I have such a cool cousin. This thing that is so awesome is somehow related to me, and that was really exciting because it started to feel like a constellation of things, and I’ve never had that feeling.”
Image via Warner Bros.
Finally, Ayer added that while making Suicide Squad,the fact that he was working within a larger cinematic universe never escaped him:
“For me, it’s a little more than just dropping a cut scene in the end credits to link projects. You really have to be thinking three movies downrange and how today’s movie will impact more later-cycle projects.”
In short, expect some major connective tissue between Suicide Squad and the rest of the DC Universe when the film hits theaters on August 5th. Check out the new image, via USA Today, below
While the marketing campaign for Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice is ramping up in a big way (click here for Ben Affleck and Henry Cavill’s thoughts on Superman’s power advantage), Warner Bros. isn’t neglecting its other 2016 superhero film, Suicide Squad. The studio has unveiled a new image from director David Ayer’s film, which turns the focus on the baddies of the DC Cinematic Universe as a group of villains are enlisted by a government official—Amanda Waller, played by Viola Davis—to deal with a mysterious adversary. The film brings together characters lesser known to general audiences like Deadshot (Will Smith), Captain Boomerang (Jai Courtney), and Killer Croc (Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje), but it also deals with iconography in the form of Harley Quinn (Margot Robbie) and, of course, Jared Leto’s new Joker.
For Ayer, who also wrote the film himself, playing with the bad guys offers the film a unique opportunity in the realm of superhero movies (via USA Today):
“We all need good guys and everything — yay, good guys — but at the end of the day, they’re kinda boring,” the Fury director says. “They’re always going to do the right thing. When you’re dealing with the baddies, it’s easy to get ahead of the audience and invert expectations.”
Image via Warner Bros.
He added that the Joker transcends good and evil, saying he’s “the king of Planet Joker”, but Ayer also got to play with another coveted character in the DC toybox: Ben Affleck’s Batman. We saw the character (played by a stunt double) on the streets of Toronto shooting scenes with the Batmobile, but Ayer reveals that during Affleck’s one day on set, he put the actor to work:
“We made him fight,” the director says with a laugh. “He’s awesome (as Batman). … You really sense that but for the grace of God he himself would be doing some really foul stuff out in the world.”
Affleck himself even weighed in on the movie and the fact that he’s part of this massive DC Cinematic Universe:
“It felt like I have such a cool cousin. This thing that is so awesome is somehow related to me, and that was really exciting because it started to feel like a constellation of things, and I’ve never had that feeling.”
Image via Warner Bros.
Finally, Ayer added that while making Suicide Squad,the fact that he was working within a larger cinematic universe never escaped him:
“For me, it’s a little more than just dropping a cut scene in the end credits to link projects. You really have to be thinking three movies downrange and how today’s movie will impact more later-cycle projects.”
In short, expect some major connective tissue between Suicide Squad and the rest of the DC Universe when the film hits theaters on August 5th. Check out the new image, via USA Today, below
You guys continue to pull shit out your ass that makes no sense and is contrary to everything we have seen thus far. Have problems with the writing, pacing, editing, theme of BvS, thats fine, but to assert they have no plan is fucking retarded. They clearly have a plan in place, complete with universe, schedule, and storylines and charcters to boot. Half of the shit in BvS that appeared to be unexplained and disjointed blurbs are evidence of a later reveal and part of an already existing storyline they have in place.
Cut the bullshit.
Pretty spot on with my assessment of the movie.
but the plan sucks. they just throwing shit together last minute, and not even explaining it. Their tv shows and anime are better than the damn movies. The tv shows do a better job of introducing and explaining characters. Yeah its two separate universes, but they need to follow the same model. Look how well they developed the characters on Flash and even the introduction of Mr. Terrific. Now compare that to how they just introduced WW, Aquaman, Flash and Cyborg. Now how long do we have to wait to see their movies.
They need to swallow their pride and follow the popular format. Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Iron Fist, those characters can now show up in a marvel movie without any explanation. Meanwhile, when flash, cryborg and aquaman show up two years from now, we have to get their origins from scratch, which could cover two movies per hero. Its just silly. Their creative team sucks. Now superman is dead....ok, that does open the door for a Supergirl introduction, but guess, what, although she is already in tv, they now have to explain her movie origin. DC should have started this 5 years ago.
Well saying the plan sucks and saying they have no plan are two totally different things. Its clear they have a plan... To the point that they forced way too much into BvS in a sloppy attempt to set the plan in motion.
Part of the problem is the time table of it all. In the aggregate it will all become a more comprised piece of work once we get the other installments. Its part of the challenge of making a movie and then making "sequels" that actually will be set at a time before this piece took place. Alot of what we have issue with in BvS will be better explained when the other films are released. Alot of the dots will be connected.
Man Batman was purely out mached with Supes and Doomsday. Like Superman said if he wanted him dead he would be. Heat Vision to his exposed face or even heating the suit would suffice even while Superman is effected by kryptonite. Doomsday was about to roast Batman before WW saved him.
Batman films in this universe opens up the window for guys like a proper Mr. Freeze and Clay Face. Guys like Fire Fly, Zass, Death Stroke. Batman has some of the best rogues in comics. There's plenty of stories to tell going forward.
One thing I hate about Henry Cavill's acting is that when he's Clark Kent, he doesn't go out of his way to seem un-super. Christopher Reeves was often clumsy, forgetful, and shy as CK. HC is just the same person with glasses.
They made this version too dark for him to be portrayed in a comical way. I'm not mad they changed that. People just seemed to flow with the updated, more mature version. As an adult, I wouldn't want to see Clark acting all shy and timid.
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There is sooo much going on here...in this thread...I can't keep up with what I thought and if it was mentioned...
I can say though that I don't agree with the somewhat explanation of Gotham and Metropolis being "sister cities". That's stupid. If Metropolis is the better of both, as the man of my family there is no way I would take my wife and child to the theater. Not only is this a stupid concept but it makes Thomas Wayne and idiot.
Lois had multiple times to confront Clark about there being a plot against Superman. But she says nothing. Lois Lane is an idiot.
Speaking of Clark, where the fuck was he? Part of the reason Superman is Superman is because of Clark. All of that character building from MoS and it doesn't matter at all.
As for the JL intros...Clark was suppose to be a reporter. Wouldn't it make more sense if they were introduced as a result of...reporting?
Side note: how do you introduce "metahumans" with no damn explanation. Does that make Superman a metahuman? Why is Wonder Woman a metahuman? Confused.
Jimmy Olsen getting got in the beginning. I thought it was funny that he was talking to Lois like he knew her only to be a plant. But when the movie went off there were a lot of people who had real names in the credits who don't get mentioned in the movie. You watching thinking "That's guy on the street no# 3" but he has a real name is a big part of the DC universe. But you don't know cause he died twenty minutes in and we won't know who he was ever again.
Why is Cyborg a metahuman? Why is the Tessaract in the DCU?
What the hell was Batman's car made of? It went through cars, trucks, buildings, a ship, crashed cause Supes stuck his foot out, got its doors ripped off, and still managed to make it across the bay (ugh) and back to Gotham. The hell.
Fight scenes were cool.
Lois and the spear. I'm not going to rehash this; bitch stupid.
The opening credits were cool. We didn't really need it...but it was nice to watch. Until the bats made little Bruce fly. Then you lost me.
The acting wasn't bad either. Alexander was only bad cause of his lines. The dialogue killed him. If Eisenburg (that's his name?) instruction was to be a psychotic who can't finish his sentences, he achieved his job. I can appreciate not having the typical Lex - cold, calculating, stone bitch face - and wanting something different but everytime he talked...bleh. Someone needs to gif the scene at the party when he's talking and it pans to the old lady in the audience...her face is the audience reaction to the whole movie.
I liked MoS. With all of the shit surrounding BvS I wanted to have high hopes for this. I knew it was going to be bad...but I tried anyway. If it was a Batman movie, it was good. For what this movie was suppose to be, it failed. D++ only because I'm hurt it could have done better and a C- is too good.
Get it together DC.
There is sooo much going on here...in this thread...I can't keep up with what I thought and if it was mentioned...
I can say though that I don't agree with the somewhat explanation of Gotham and Metropolis being "sister cities". That's stupid. If Metropolis is the better of both, as the man of my family there is no way I would take my wife and child to the theater. Not only is this a stupid concept but it makes Thomas Wayne and idiot.
Lois had multiple times to confront Clark about there being a plot against Superman. But she says nothing. Lois Lane is an idiot.
Speaking of Clark, where the fuck was he? Part of the reason Superman is Superman is because of Clark. All of that character building from MoS and it doesn't matter at all.
As for the JL intros...Clark was suppose to be a reporter. Wouldn't it make more sense if they were introduced as a result of...reporting?
Side note: how do you introduce "metahumans" with no damn explanation. Does that make Superman a metahuman? Why is Wonder Woman a metahuman? Confused.
Jimmy Olsen getting got in the beginning. I thought it was funny that he was talking to Lois like he knew her only to be a plant. But when the movie went off there were a lot of people who had real names in the credits who don't get mentioned in the movie. You watching thinking "That's guy on the street no# 3" but he has a real name is a big part of the DC universe. But you don't know cause he died twenty minutes in and we won't know who he was ever again.
Why is Cyborg a metahuman? Why is the Tessaract in the DCU?
What the hell was Batman's car made of? It went through cars, trucks, buildings, a ship, crashed cause Supes stuck his foot out, got its doors ripped off, and still managed to make it across the bay (ugh) and back to Gotham. The hell.
Fight scenes were cool.
Lois and the spear. I'm not going to rehash this; bitch stupid.
The opening credits were cool. We didn't really need it...but it was nice to watch. Until the bats made little Bruce fly. Then you lost me.
The acting wasn't bad either. Alexander was only bad cause of his lines. The dialogue killed him. If Eisenburg (that's his name?) instruction was to be a psychotic who can't finish his sentences, he achieved his job. I can appreciate not having the typical Lex - cold, calculating, stone bitch face - and wanting something different but everytime he talked...bleh. Someone needs to gif the scene at the party when he's talking and it pans to the old lady in the audience...her face is the audience reaction to the whole movie.
I liked MoS. With all of the shit surrounding BvS I wanted to have high hopes for this. I knew it was going to be bad...but I tried anyway. If it was a Batman movie, it was good. For what this movie was suppose to be, it failed. D++ only because I'm hurt it could have done better and a C- is too good.
Get it together DC.
You actually make a great point about that. I will say that Tim Burton's Batman did show a Bruce who was willing to get close to the criminals or put his neck out there to gather clues. Like what he did with Joker (making himself be bait) and Penguin.
If you didn't know anything about DC and it's characters.... Could you honestly tell me what the plan is from just this movie? Honestly... and you can't throw in... I read this somewhere, I saw this somewhere, the comics... had this in it. Just from the movie.... If you say Yes, then please explain? Remember.... ONLY From what you saw in the movie.
for the next movie, i hope they dont go with the idea of having various heroes replace superman
I hope not, but I just don't know what they do with Superman now.
Clark Kent is done for ever in this Universe. They would have to go a Crisis of Two Earths route to ever bring back Clark.
You can't have Superman without Clark. Dude can't be in the Blue cape all movie.
You can't have the Daily Planet without Clark. There really isn't a point to them anymore and that's a huge waste.
Obviously they bring him back, but then what? Also if you bring him back from complete death..... How can any other threat be viewed as a potential end game for the man? It works in the comics, because you go in knowing that death is temporary. This doesn't work in a movie, because all action movies need the risk of death to create tension. The load was blown to soon on this one.
Probably not.
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