That if R&B sang better songs it wouldn't be dead.
Joe singing Hello by Adele ...now this is proof
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This is what I bring up when people talk about how white artists with soul or R&B have bigger hits because they are white. And there's some truth to that but man our r&b artists ain't making records like this. Listen to that bullshit Trey Songz and Chris Brown be singing. It be some bullshit.
I actually don't like this record. Joe makes it sound better though. Not a bad record just kind of boring.....
I actually don't like this record. Joe makes it sound better though. Not a bad record just kind of boring.....
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Adele murder by her own shit.
I agree.
Man foh. If Joe was the first to release that song it would come and go without much fanfare or attention.
Joe use to be my substitute teacher in grade school.
bottom line, R & B is still strong, however White People sing it now so they just call it "Pop Music" now. Basically, White people just wanted to Gentrify the Genre, & that's what they did.
Dope!!
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True dat.......even Kels admitted that shit,....eventho he hated on Joe after writing hits for em.
You sir have the correct answer. 
Black R&B singers use the word NiG%er in their songs more than rappers, instead of using suggestive lyrics they just
come straight out and say let's fuck, we just got through fucking, suck my dick etc. You can't sell that shit to a
mainstream audience.
One of the problems may be there is no black independent radio to help break R&B with substance, in the old days a black
or R&B song would go to the top of the soul/R&B stations first and then transition to the so called Pop/White stations.
All so called black radio wants to play these days is a bunch of no talented assholes calling each other NiG%er
I'm not talking Rap/Hip Hop, they can say what the fuck they want and it will sell, but that doesn't work in R&B/Soul.
JMHO - HNIC
Black R&B singers use the word NiG%er in their songs more than rappers, instead of using suggestive lyrics they just
come straight out and say let's fuck, we just got through fucking, suck my dick etc. You can't sell that shit to a
mainstream audience.
One of the problems may be there is no black independent radio to help break R&B with substance, in the old days a black
or R&B song would go to the top of the soul/R&B stations first and then transition to the so called Pop/White stations.
All so called black radio wants to play these days is a bunch of no talented assholes calling each other NiG%er
I'm not talking Rap/Hip Hop, they can say what the fuck they want and it will sell, but that doesn't work in R&B/Soul.
JMHO - HNIC
Joe is the truth, but that fat white chick is a MONSTER with the record sales.
Ugly fat white chicks are the shit now, got men slobbering over what "real white women are supposed to look like, once they gave up the fight in the 20's
No way Joe could get burn off this song imo.
Black people have no radio outlets, don't buy records, and little white girls support taylor swift
Ugly fat white chicks are the shit now, got men slobbering over what "real white women are supposed to look like, once they gave up the fight in the 20's
No way Joe could get burn off this song imo.
Black people have no radio outlets, don't buy records, and little white girls support taylor swift
Joe is the truth, but that fat white chick is a MONSTER with the record sales.
Ugly fat white chicks are the shit now, got men slobbering over what "real white women are supposed to look like, once they gave up the fight in the 20's
No way Joe could get burn off this song imo.
Black people have no radio outlets, don't buy records, and little white girls support taylor swift
maybe they should just write good songs for fat white bitches......win win
I came in this thread initially to type something like this, but after listening to the song, I think it would've been a crossover comeback hit for Joe. The song is that good. Would he have 255 million YouTube hits in two weeks though, fuck nah. He would've hit a cool 2 million after a couple of months though.
It was good but cmon....Adele is on another level. Listen to her live without any auto tune. There isn't many that can hang with her.
That's dope fam.
Joe did his thing. He also covered Franky Beverly & Maze's "Can't get over you" and killed that too. Very talented brother
I'm sorry! Joe is one of the best R&B singer there is but to say he murdered Adele on her own track is crazy.. If nothing else, the woman has a special set of skills....
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There are some that say Aretha killed her on this one....
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There are some that say Aretha killed her on this one....
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There's nothing stopping black R&B artist from covering white artist songs and improving on them. But too many of the big names only care about cross-over hits or hip-hop inspired beats or water down their sound with techno beats.
Also R&B is not dead. It's just that real R&B singers get stuck in that Neo-Soul grouping and radio hardly plays any of that.
Yerp.... good music is still out there but you'll be hard pressed to hear any of it on the radio and that shit cuts across all genres. Turn the radio off prosper my dudes
Man shut da............................................................
Trey usually has a ballad on his albums, still wouldn't sell like Adele. White artist doing Black music get more media attention.
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To add on, if he had the song first most would've never heard sit.
It's not win win for that song writer but not for R&B.
^ I completely agree. This should def be done. Because as a songwriter who learned from listening to the Motown era, I write serious songs. But when I've submitted em for black artists, I've been told to dumb down the lyrics. I've had two A&R's tell me the same thing, but turn around and ask for the song as is for a white artist. This let me know it's all by design. This is why the biggest R&B/Soul singer in the game right now is Sam Smith. It's sickening. But when I ask if they want a white singer to reference (demo) it (like is required for any pop records), they say no, a black singer is fine. They want it like that to study the runs, riffs, and delivery. All the while giving our artists a cookie cutter barage of bullshit.
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