WSJ: The Poverty Cure for black folk - Get Married

Good solution. Excuses coming in We don't need a piece of paper , certain folk didn't allow us to be married, I'd rather get married the eastern way and have a tribe.
 
that shit is behind a pay wall.....


The Poverty Cure: Get Married
Black children bear the brunt of single parenthood’s harms.

Of the many barriers to equal opportunity for African-Americans, differences of family background may well be the most consequential—and the least likely to yield to public policy. This is the gravamen of research made public in recent weeks, much of it collected in the fall 2015 issue of the academic journal the Future of Children.

Although there were signs of trouble to come in the 1960s, racial differences in marriage rates remained modest until 1970, when 95% of white women and 92% of black women had been married at least once. By 2012, however, a large gap had emerged: 88% of white women age 40-44 were or had been married, compared with only 63% of black women.

Education makes a difference: Among black women with a bachelor’s degree or more, the ever-married rate is 71%; for those with no more than a high-school diploma, it is only 56%. But race also matters. The ever-married rate for college-educated black women is 17 percentage points lower than for white women, while the black/white gap among the least-educated women is a stunning 31 points.

As a result, other differences are stark. Consider that 71% of African-American infants are born to unmarried women, compared with 29% for white women. The birth of a child doesn’t motivate many African-American couples to get married: 66% of black children are not living with married parents. Nor does it keep their unmarried biological parents together. About seven in 10 white children, from newborn to 18 years of age, are living with their biological parents, compared with one in three black children.

This matters because—as family-structure researchers Sara McLanahan and Isabel Sawhill note in the Future of Children, “most scholars now agree that children raised by two biological parents in a stable marriage do better than children in other family forms across a wide variety of outcomes.”

Cohabitation is not a replacement for marriage. On average, cohabiting couples stay together for only 18 months. Two in three children born to cohabitating couples will see their biological parents break up by age 12, compared with only one in four in married-couple families. That fact is vital because family instability is a major source of poor outcomes for children.

It turns out that the effects of family instability are measurably worse for boys than for girls—and worst of all for African-American boys. In a landmark new study, a research team headed by MIT’s David Autor and Northwestern University’s David Figlio find that relative to their sisters, boys born to poorly educated unmarried mothers have higher levels of truancy and behavioral problems throughout elementary and middle school, are less likely to graduate from high school, and are more likely as juveniles to commit serious crimes. Many of the gaps between brothers and sisters are larger for blacks than for whites.

The researchers study—and reject—the hypotheses that these differences reflect higher prenatal sensitivity to factors such as stress and poor nutrition or that they are entirely attributable to dangerous neighborhoods and poor schools. There are independent effects of family background that contribute to the large gaps between boys and girls. In fact, the researchers conclude, neighborhoods and schools are less important than the “direct effect of family structure itself.”

Why is this? The research team finds that boys’ problems are far more behavioral than cognitive. For example, truancy and classroom disciplinary issues lead to suspensions, which play the largest role in explaining the boy-girl high-school graduation gap. But the presence of fathers in the household substantially reduces the gaps between boys and girls in absences and suspensions. It turns out that boys need fathers as well as mothers even more than girls do, and suffer even more when fathers are absent from their lives.

This is not a counsel of despair. Public policies that help mothers and that improve neighborhoods and schools can make a difference, as can evidence-based criminal-justice reforms. Civil-society organizations, secular as well as faith-based, can provide steadying male presences in boys’ lives. But David Ribar, one of the Future of Children authors, concludes that the advantages of marriage for child well-being are “hard to replicate through policy interventions other than those that bolster marriages themselves.” And as evaluations of the George W. Bush administration’s marriage-promotion efforts show, we don’t know how to do that.

If this research is correct, we should never imagine that efforts by government and civil society, however effective, can fully substitute for the influence of stable, intact families. True equal opportunity for African-Americans will take not only programs to boost black incomes, neighborhoods, schools and job opportunities, but also mothers and fathers living and working together to raise their children.
 
Thanks Paul I was about to say. OP you can't read the whole article from your link it ask for subscription.

Getting married doesn't mean much anymore if you can't stay together and no fault divorce ruined that. All getting married will do is create a bigger demographic of wealth transfers from men to women and increase profits for family law divorce courts and child support, when it's more profitable to divorce than stay together.

Especially in this growing culture of divorce and disdain for marriage. You want African Americans to marry then marriage as an institution needs reform.
 
married=work half as hard to achieve the same goal...when you have a queen whos working with you:yes:...me and my wife are married with one on the way my kids will always have both parents in the home..to give them a firm foundation for success
 
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This is just a way of not dealing with the problems/issues of why blacks are in poverty in the first place....solve the why well then you will solve poverty...
 
This is just a way of not dealing with the problems/issues of why blacks are in poverty in the first place....solve the why well then you will solve poverty...

This is a major problem. Single Parent homes ain't normal never have been. Wake the fuck up. Say some black folk. Not all black folks are poor.
 
Getting married to the right women, and then becoming proper mothers and fathers... The problem is that we rather be playas and gold diggers, the direct opposite of what we need to be in order to unify...
This is how the media propaganda of selfishness and me first comes to play because we are constantly sold on seduced on the notion of individuality, selfishness and life being about instant gratification and wants..
It becomes a double edge sword where one side creates mindless consumers while the other is designed to erode away the sense of family structure..
Now we have grown ups trying to be kids, kids trying to be adults, mothers and fathers still trying to live the single life.. As long as there is no strong families, there would never be strong communities, and a strong nation of black folks who can challenge white supremacy..
For those who still can't connect the dots, to what he is saying, this thuggery and ratchetness that we embrace as black culture, some even go as far as calling those who are tricked into it as real niggaz, is doing nothing but contributing to the destruction of our people, and unless we go back to original African family values, we are doomed as a race.
 
This is a major problem. Single Parent homes ain't normal never have been. Wake the fuck up. Say some black folk. Not all black folks are poor.

Single parents in the black community is the worst solution, Black women love to pride themselves on how they don't need a man and their children don't need a father in their lives... But for everyone that turns out ok there are at least a half dozen that wind up fucked up... And yet we are supposed to only focus on the ones that turn out ok, while completely ignoring the fuck ups..:smh:
The white man is promoting this system, in order to destroy us from the inside out...
 
This is a major problem. Single Parent homes ain't normal never have been. Wake the fuck up. Say some black folk. Not all black folks are poor.

The article is correlating blacks not being married to poverty for blacks; whether or not its a major problem is a different topic; but the reason why blacks are in poverty isnt because they arent married; and lets define poverty; the US defines poverty as:
The single # is how many people are in the household; and the other # is dollar amount per household

1 $11,770
2 $15,930
3 $20,090
4 $24,250
5 $28,410
6 $32,570
7 $36,730
8 $40,890

Let me say this, if you are only making 15k per year and you are by yourself, thats still poverty; But thats how they make things look better than what they are; So there are more people in "poverty" than what the "numbers" suggest...
 
Single parents in the black community is the worst solution, Black women love to pride themselves on how they don't need a man and their children don't need a father in their lives... But for everyone that turns out ok there are at least a half dozen that wind up fucked up... And yet we are supposed to only focus on the ones that turn out ok, while completely ignoring the fuck ups..:smh:
The white man is promoting this system, in order to destroy us from the inside out...

It takes 2 to tangle; and regardless of what a woman says or doesnt say, if the man gets her pregnant than he should be there for his kid; no one is making this man bust inside her or not making him wear a condom but him...
 
The article is correlating blacks not being married to poverty for blacks; whether or not its a major problem is a different topic; but the reason why blacks are in poverty isnt because they arent married; and lets define poverty; the US defines poverty as:
The single # is how many people are in the household; and the other # is dollar amount per household

1 $11,770
2 $15,930
3 $20,090
4 $24,250
5 $28,410
6 $32,570
7 $36,730
8 $40,890

Let me say this, if you are only making 15k per year and you are by yourself, thats still poverty; But thats how they make things look better than what they are; So there are more people in "poverty" than what the "numbers" suggest...

Its more about wadges or money its about wealth that can used to formulate strong families... Plus one out of every five black men in jail are there for child support (yeah we always hear the war on drugs is killing the black family, but most of the offenders are actually criminals, men fathering a child they never wanted is not a real crime, especially if he has little or no say so to deciding on if the child should be born or not..
Yet if this same mother is not able to care for this same child she is given money and and place to live... The result is broken families and children being birth for money and perks, not out of love and because they actually want to be mothers..
With real families there are no perks just birthing children, the real perks is out of love and for growth... This is what we need, not the bullshit that is so prevalent today..
 
Single parents in the black community is the worst solution, Black women love to pride themselves on how they don't need a man and their children don't need a father in their lives... But for everyone that turns out ok there are at least a half dozen that wind up fucked up... And yet we are supposed to only focus on the ones that turn out ok, while completely ignoring the fuck ups..:smh:
The white man is promoting this system, in order to destroy us from the inside out...

Again bruh the generalizations ain't what's up. Stop focusing on the mentality ill sistas and brothas who promote that nonsense. I call them mentally ill because that's how I see them. They won't listen to reason and I don't try and change them so I don't see these sistas and bitter brothas you speak on. We don't ignore the fuckups . My brother's keeper, all these forums, songs, sistas and brothas lauding praise for those who made bad choices ie selling drugs and ended up behind bars. Yet I have a cousin who attends private feeder Highschool that feeds into Princeton. He is told he's not black reason being he grew up in the burbs, is taking organic chem, both his parents have their masters.

Let's speak on how those young brothas and sistas who are doing well get dogged out. Some can't fight back with words or fist. I remember telling one kid who spoke crazy to me he was just mad he probably be dead before he turned 25.
Looking back sadly I was right. R.I.P Kevin

This is a major issue You have kids in the burbs scared to like jazz, robotics etc etc because of what some kid in some economically disadvantaged neighborhood would think. Keeping it real the kid in the bad neighborhood is crying himself to sleep dreaming, praying , wishing he had parents that gave a damn.
 
It takes 2 to tangle; and regardless of what a woman says or doesnt say, if the man gets her pregnant than he should be there for his kid; no one is making this man bust inside her or not making him wear a condom but him...

Women have the choice to take the morning after pill, and bith control... Sure there are simps out there who will spill in anything, but why would any woman even think about allowing them to go in them raw? Especially knowing that he don't want that child, do they think its cool birthing a child to a father that doesn't want it? If men were the ones that had children, there isn't any way in hell I would allow myself to give birth to a child with out the mother by my side there to support me.
If this is so difficult to do, why is it that this shit mainly happens to dumb chicks and not the educated ones with a good head on her shoulders...
 
Its more about wadges or money its about wealth that can used to formulate strong families... Plus one out of every five black men in jail are there for child support (yeah we always hear the war on drugs is killing the black family, but most of the offenders are actually criminals, men fathering a child they never wanted is not a real crime, especially if he has little or no say so to deciding on if the child should be born or not..
Yet if this same mother is not able to care for this same child she is given money and and place to live... The result is broken families and children being birth for money and perks, not out of love and because they actually want to be mothers..
With real families there are no perks just birthing children, the real perks is out of love and for growth... This is what we need, not the bullshit that is so prevalent today..

Most offenders are actually non violent criminals based upon bullshsit laws that whites created out of racism; So to say someone is a "criminal" and not acknowledging this whole dam justice system is based in racism then thats foolish, but thats another topic; point is its a combination of things that causes blacks to be/live in poverty; its not just one thing, and whites have helped tremendously in making sure blacks are in poverty; from laws to lynchings they are very much responsible; it doesnt exclude our ignorant asses from the shit that we do to ourselves as well; there a myriad of reasons and getting married doesnt solve those things....
 
Women have the choice to take the morning after pill, and bith control... Sure there are simps out there who will spill in anything, but why would any woman even think about allowing them to go in them raw? Especially knowing that he don't want that child, do they think its cool birthing a child to a father that doesn't want it? If men were the ones that had children, there isn't any way in hell I would allow myself to give birth to a child with out the mother by my side there to support me.
If this is so difficult to do, why is it that this shit mainly happens to dumb chicks and not the educated ones with a good head on her shoulders...

The educated women have access and resources to get what they need. Even if they didn't learn it at home they see screwing up in college ain't the move. The corner office, Ceo of their own company all that goes away if they become pregnant.
 
Again bruh the generalizations ain't what's up. Stop focusing on the mentality ill sistas and brothas who promote that nonsense. I call them mentally ill because that's how I see them. They won't listen to reason and I don't try and change them so I don't see these sistas and bitter brothas you speak on. We don't ignore the fuckups . My brother's keeper, all these forums, songs, sistas and brothas lauding praise for those who made bad choices ie selling drugs and ended up behind bars. Yet I have a cousin who attends private feeder Highschool that feeds into Princeton. He is told he's not black reason being he grew up in the burbs, is taking organic chem, both his parents have their masters.

Let's speak on how those young brothas and sistas who are doing well get dogged out. Some can't fight back with words or fist. I remember telling one kid who spoke crazy to me he was just mad he probably be dead before he turned 25.
Looking back sadly I was right. R.I.P Kevin

This is a major issue You have kids in the burbs scared to like jazz, robotics etc etc because of what some kid in some economically disadvantaged neighborhood would think. Keeping it real the kid in the bad neighborhood is crying himself to sleep dreaming, praying , wishing he had parents that gave a damn.
As long as she isn't poising a threat to the rest of the class, the prudent thing to do, at that moment, is assume that she was having some sort of a breakdown..
Hey if she wasn't then you can adjust the punishment later on, however, if she is, then you will be assisting someone who is in need of mental help..
 
Women have the choice to take the morning after pill, and bith control... Sure there are simps out there who will spill in anything, but why would any woman even think about allowing them to go in them raw? Especially knowing that he don't want that child, do they think its cool birthing a child to a father that doesn't want it? If men were the ones that had children, there isn't any way in hell I would allow myself to give birth to a child with out the mother by my side there to support me.
If this is so difficult to do, why is it that this shit mainly happens to dumb chicks and not the educated ones with a good head on her shoulders...

Why are u excluding men from what they do?? u cant get a woman pregnant unless u cum in her, period!!!!!!!!if you dont cum in a woman she doesnt get pregnant!!!! so i dont give a flying fuck about the morning after pill, what that bitch says or does, or any other form of birth control; Ultimately the man is going to decide if the woman gets pregnant or not; so if you dont want to have kids, dont get the bitch pregnant..simple as that
 
The educated women have access and resources to get what they need. Even if they didn't learn it at home they see screwing up in college ain't the move. The corner office, Ceo of their own company all that goes away if they become pregnant.

PLease if you can afford jordans, nails done, jewelry, blunts, rims and hair done, they should have enough money to go to the free clinic to get some morning after pills or some other contraceptive..
Plus if they can't afford to protect themselves how the fuck are they going to afford to properly raise a child?
Oh I forgot their daddy the US government pays them well to raise monsters while placing black fathers in jail for it...
 
Why are u excluding men from what they do?? u cant get a woman pregnant unless u cum in her, period!!!!!!!!if you dont cum in a woman she doesnt get pregnant!!!! so i dont give a flying fuck about the morning after pill, what that bitch says or does, or any other form of birth control; Ultimately the man is going to decide if the woman gets pregnant or not; so if you dont want to have kids, dont get the bitch pregnant..simple as that

Because black men are not being rewarded for bring babies in the world..
If me and my girl had a pet dog, and we broke up and I decided to take the dog, and the dog wound up running away, I cannot turn around and blame her..
Especially if she was paying me to care for the dog, and or if she got arrested for not paying me for the dog..
Look with great power (having children) comes with great responsibility.. The government and if women were really responsible they would make sure they have children by fathers that would be there for them..
Like I said, people with brains don't seem to have such a hard time with that concept, yet dumb chicks, seem to find this impossible to do..
 
And here is the kicker, boys who are raised by their mothers alone, are much more likely to father a child before they get married, and the odds are much higher of him having multiple children out of wedlock..
So is it his fault or is it the way he was raised?
 
Because black men are not being rewarded for bring babies in the world..
If me and my girl had a pet dog, and we broke up and I decided to take the dog, and the dog wound up running away, I cannot turn around and blame her..
Especially if she was paying me to care for the dog, and or if she got arrested for not paying me for the dog..
Look with great power (having children) comes with great responsibility.. The government and if women were really responsible they would make sure they have children by fathers that would be there for them..
Like I said, people with brains don't seem to have such a hard time with that concept, yet dumb chicks, seem to find this impossible to do..

That may or may not be true; at the end of it all its real simple; dont bust in a chick if you dont want to have her get pregnant; problem solve on that front; as for as black men getting locked up for child support issues, another dumb law created by whites that the whole justice system, which you work for, supports
 
We need more brothas and sistas being the example. I get suited and booted Why? If the kid sees me in some baggy jeans, timbs and a fitted. I'm not giving him anything he hasn't seen before. You cannot be what You don't see. It works for the entertainer or ball player. I'm showing him that its nothing wrong with a suit .

Appearance and substance matters in 2015.
I'm not speaking on labels just a simple suit and tie with polished shoes. Some have to crawl before they walk . I'm making sure kids get out of their neighborhoods and into a better direction.
 
And here is the kicker, boys who are raised by their mothers alone, are much more likely to father a child before they get married, and the odds are much higher of him having multiple children out of wedlock..
So is it his fault or is it the way he was raised?

Again Its His Father's fault for not being there. Some dudes are pure pussy you can create kids but You sprinting like a track star when its time to raise your seed. I don't care if your dead broke. A Saturday afternoon board game and a sandwich is better then not being there at all. Kids look forward to that. Put the bullshit issues aside with the Mom and be there for your kid.
 
That may or may not be true; at the end of it all its real simple; dont bust in a chick if you dont want to have her get pregnant; problem solve on that front; as for as black men getting locked up for child support issues, another dumb law created by whites that the whole justice system, which you work for, supports

Its the simps who wasn't raised properly that are doing this dumb shit... Smart guys seldom have this problem..
Let me break this down, you fuck with a smart chick doing her thing in life, ant the last thing she would want is a baby born out of wedlock, so she makes sure no shit happens..
Meanwhile my brother was fucking with this young chick, who claims she doesn't like condoms, but assured him she was on the pills because she didn't want anymore kids.. Well he believed her, because it made perfectly good sense... ONe problem, the chick is dumb as rocks, and according to her, she forgot to take her pills for a whole month with out telling him, and bingo another child was born..
According to her dumb ass, it was an act of the lord for giving her that gift...
Now are you starting to see the stupidity us guys have to deal with....
BTW if he were to fail to pay her for that gift who will she call? Jesus or the cops?
 
Again Its His Father's fault for not being there. Some dudes are pure pussy you can create kids but You sprinting like a track star when its time to raise your seed. I don't care if your dead broke. A Saturday afternoon board game and a sandwich is better then not being there at all. Kids look forward to that. Put the bullshit issues aside with the Mom and be there for your kid.
During the 90's it was en vogue for sisters to say I can do bad all by myself, especially knowing they would be rewarded by the government for getting rid of your black ass.. As the result many of them were quick to pull the trigger dumping their baby daddies for someone more exciting... This is the same time the rough neck fade came into play... Many women brought into the bullshit loving the thug life, and after they either died out or got arrested, they started wondering where all the good men were...
But this was all a set up, a plan designed to destroy the central black family..
 
Its the simps who wasn't raised properly that are doing this dumb shit... Smart guys seldom have this problem..
Let me break this down, you fuck with a smart chick doing her thing in life, ant the last thing she would want is a baby born out of wedlock, so she makes sure no shit happens..
Meanwhile my brother was fucking with this young chick, who claims she doesn't like condoms, but assured him she was on the pills because she didn't want anymore kids.. Well he believed her, because it made perfectly good sense... ONe problem, the chick is dumb as rocks, and according to her, she forgot to take her pills for a whole month with out telling him, and bingo another child was born..
According to her dumb ass, it was an act of the lord for giving her that gift...
Now are you starting to see the stupidity us guys have to deal with....
BTW if he were to fail to pay her for that gift who will she call? Jesus or the cops?

:lol::lol:Shit is funny; but on the real again if he(brother) doesnt bust in this bitch does she get pregnant??? Why is he taking her word for it??? Why is he giving her power of his body?? he is the one thats responsible for busting in her not her; so again thats on him and every other male that bust in these females; whether the female is trifling, ignorant, ratchet, dumb, stupid, full of the lord or holy ghost, hoe, slut etc etc etc doesnt matter...dont bust in them; but i will agree to a point that you can of alluded to which is if the guy is educated then he might choose not to bust in her; but education or lack thereof is not an excuse...
 
Whites always have the answers as to whats in the best interest for blacks ans what will "fix" their problems. And history tells us that they are always sincere, well meaning and most of all right. :yes:


Marriage will address and correct over policing, over prosecution, discriminatory hiring, discriminatory rental and real estate practices and poor funding of public school systems that (dont) educate minorities. :yes:
 
We need more brothas and sistas being the example. I get suited and booted Why? If the kid sees me in some baggy jeans, timbs and a fitted. I'm not giving him anything he hasn't seen before. You cannot be what You don't see. It works for the entertainer or ball player. I'm showing him that its nothing wrong with a suit .

Appearance and substance matters in 2015.
I'm not speaking on labels just a simple suit and tie with polished shoes. Some have to crawl before they walk . I'm making sure kids get out of their neighborhoods and into a better direction.

Images go a long way; its no coincidence the images they constantly show us to be
 
Whites always have the answers as to whats in the best interest for blacks. And history tells us that they are always sincere, well meaning and most of all right. :yes:


Marriage will address and correct over policing, over prosecution, discriminatory hiring, discriminatory rental and real estate practices and poor funding of public school systems that (dont) educate minorities. :yes:

Exactly:lol::lol:..but in all fairness they should have the answers because they help to create the majority of the shit we go thru every day...
 
Whites always have the answers as to whats in the best interest for blacks. And history tells us that they are always sincere, well meaning and most of all right. :yes:


Marriage will address and correct over policing, over prosecution, discriminatory hiring, discriminatory rental and real estate practices and poor funding of public school systems that (dont) educate minorities. :yes:

Yes, because with strong families, there is stability and accountability, strong communities, stronger political powers, stronger purchasing powers, better quality of kids, less crime, more ownership, better accountability of schools..
By not having strong families we are constantly add odds with each other where the black males go against the black females where often the black man is locked up and the black child is raised with less than ideal situations..
Ask anyone who ever turned to drugs, sold drugs or joined a gang, then ask yourself how many of them had a educated father in their lives..
Before even thinking about having a child all women should be educated to that fact and if they really love their child they would do everything possible to increase that her child has the best chances in life..
But they don't and as the result we have become weak and being weak means that we stand a much greater chance of being the ones capitalized on in this capitalist society..
 
Yes, because with strong families, there is stability and accountability, strong communities, stronger political powers, stronger purchasing powers, better quality of kids, less crime, more ownership, better accountability of schools..
By not having strong families we are constantly add odds with each other where the black males go against the black females where often the black man is locked up and the black child is raised with less than ideal situations..
Ask anyone who ever turned to drugs, sold drugs or joined a gang, then ask yourself how many of them had a educated father in their lives..
Before even thinking about having a child all women should be educated to that fact and if they really love their child they would do everything possible to increase that her child has the best chances in life..
But they don't and as the result we have become weak and being weak means that we stand a much greater chance of being the ones capitalized on in this capitalist society..

who destroyed our families and why??
 
real talk, are black men scared to get married? because we programmed to think the women just wanna take our money and divorce us after they have the kid, and get a check for 18yrs?



i herd this before..
my homeboy said this the reason why he will never marry.
 
:lol::lol:Shit is funny; but on the real again if he(brother) doesnt bust in this bitch does she get pregnant??? Why is he taking her word for it??? Why is he giving her power of his body?? he is the one thats responsible for busting in her not her; so again thats on him and every other male that bust in these females; whether the female is trifling, ignorant, ratchet, dumb, stupid, full of the lord or holy ghost, hoe, slut etc etc etc doesnt matter...dont bust in them; but i will agree to a point that you can of alluded to which is if the guy is educated then he might choose not to bust in her; but education or lack thereof is not an excuse...

Only a retarded dude would bust in a chick like that... My question is why are so many of our women lining up allowing so many retards to bust in them, especially knowing that having a child by a retarded man who can't care for them, almost guarantees that her child would have a fucked up life...
Being dumb is one thing, not loving a child that you keep 9 moths in your belly goes way beyond stupid...
 
real talk, are black men scared to get married? because we programmed to think the women just wanna take our money and divorce us after they have the kid, and get a check for 18yrs?



i herd this before..
my homeboy said this the reason why he will never marry.

he sounds foolish(your homeboy) and maybe we are programmed to believe dumb shit and maybe we not; but black women are no different from any other american woman...
 
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