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[largebillsonlyplease]

AS LBOP says don't buy into it. It's not the routes and it damn sure wasn't their coverage...

Watch the game again. Our guys were open. The throws were just bad. We're talking late, inaccurate and under thrown. Kap hit the bad passing hat trick and he owned up to it.

On those plays, watch the line. You'll see how the Cardinals attacked the right side of our line (the weak link). Unfortunately the plays we ran were to the right. Kap was throwing flat footed or off balanced. He couldn't step up and deliver the ball like he normally does.

So don't buy into the post game trash talk. Evaluate for yourself.

exactly
they loaded up the left side for the run. and attacked the right side's pass blocking.
kap was under duress but he also had a really shitty day throwing the football. it happens. some days you just don't fucking have it.

nobody is about to call for alex's smith head after this shitty ass performance he's putting out there now after 9 years in the league are they?

so back off kap.

 

[Bumpee]

The word is gonna be out now.... blitz Kaep like crazy.

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

The word is gonna be out now.... blitz Kaep like crazy.

not kap lol. blitz the line because they can't pick it up.

 

[1900KiLLa]

I can't wait till the 30 for 30 of 60 minutes comes out so LBO can finally see and admit to the money grab that went down in the bay area.. THIS IS NOT A GOOD FOOTBALL TEAM, stop tryina make excuses every week and explain shit... the team isn't good, Harbaugh got oustered because he wasn't tryina fall in line with the money grab.... You'll see LBO.. the niners got some gook president to secure and 850 million dollar loan for that stadium and 200 million from the NFL, both unprecedented. The ticket prices are up like 400% from when they were in the stick... If you cant see that they saved money on Every conceivable level football wise the I don't know what else to say.

 

[blackman80]

LET"S GO 49ERS!!!...WE NEED THIS WIN TODAY!!!...

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

Chryst has to go period.

The offense wont work until they open it up. stop calling the same plays. call the plays you said you would. the play action. the bootleg. the roll outs. and take the deep shots.

we don't do any of that.

and when we do some of it we move the ball and then go right back into a shell of an offense.

defense did their job today.

chryst has to be changed

 

[CurtDawg]

We're fielding a really fucking solid coaching staff on the low.

ill compile a list later on tonight but this coaching staff might be better than the one we just had..

They might end up keeping their word.
Mangini is actually a good dc he knows defense we had his ass as a tight ends coach thanks jim harbaugh!
tarver is a former dc excellent teacher excellent linebackers coach

offensive line we're going to the zone which is going to make hyde a 1600 yard rusher

sporano as the tight end coach = resurgence of vd and maybe we can finally coach macdonald up.

rathman is rathman

shit man this staff might be way better than the one we were running with for 4 years

no thoughts on Geep ?

I'm fine with it. We all agreed the playbook wasn't the problem, it was the play caller.

Geep is the one who called the red zone drive against the saints for the W in the playoffs.
Roman called the rest.

Get him in there and let's see what he does.

After every fuckin game it's the same ol excuses
Over & Over & Over Again LargeBills !!!!!
LargeBills..... YOU were the one who talked up this coaching staff, like they were the best thing since sliced bread

I said it before & I'll say it again...
I never wanted Tomsula & this coaching staff... I wanted the Shanahans or made Vic Fangio the Head Coach !!!

 

[blackman80]

FUCK!!!...

I'm sick of this shit every fucking game lately this season that the fucking offense ain't doing shit!!....Kaep and the O-line is hurting the team!!...



FUCK THIS!!...

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

After every fuckin game it's the same ol excuses
Over & Over & Over Again LargeBills !!!!!
LargeBills..... YOU were the one who talked up this coaching staff, like they were the best thing since sliced bread

I said it before & I'll say it again...
I never wanted Tomsula & this coaching staff... I wanted the Shanahans or made Vic Fangio the Head Coach !!!

Not like they were the best thing since sliced bread. I went off of what they said they would do and they aren't doing ANY of the things they said.

If they opened up the offense. if they ran uptempo spread. if they took deep shots off play action if they did all of the things they said they would do we would look WAY FUCKING BETTER on offense than we do. they did NOT. they do NOT.

the one time we moved the ball on offense was when we went spread uptempo and when we took a deep shot to torrey.

and then after seeing that we never fucking did it again. that is on geep solely. he has to go already. im sorry. open up the fucking offense. do the things that make sense. he doesn't. so im finished with that.

chryst has to go ive seen enough of him.

Mangini did his thing. he had the defense playing great actually. you hold rodgers to 17 points on a day your offense is doing nothing the defense did its job.

they need to get rid of chryst. i was completely wrong about him he said he was going to do 1 thing and then got in there and did the exact opposite.

 

[CurtDawg]

...

I told ya'll before.... letting Harbaugh go was the right move b/c his time here was up BUT.... hiring Tomsula was a BAD MOVE
They had to gut the whole entire coaching staff that Tomsula leapfrogged for the job
Then cheap ass Jed York & Trent Baalke hired within just to save money & also b/c a bunch of coaches turned down the job to work under Tomsula


I said it before & I'll say it again....
I WANTED EITHER VIC FANGIO OR MIKE SHANAHAN FOR HEAD COACH !!!

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

then why isn't he a head coach anywhere else?

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

Aaron Rodgers on Colin Kaepernick: "Any time you're under that kind of pass rush it's tough be effective."

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

Kap: "We have to be able to get the ball out quicker. Ultimately our offense is a team. We need to work & get ball in our playmakers hands."

 

[CurtDawg]

49ers O-line is just not good at all
Told ya'll since the 1st preseason game
Houston Texans were getting pressure without JJ Watt, without Vince Wilfork, & without Cushing
And it seems like every other play, the Broncos are in Kaep's face

Don't jump off the ledge.

The line we saw tonight was the 3rd combination as in many weeks. the purpose of this is to see who can play and who can't play. Tomsula said as much after the game that now they know who will be starting and who won't. So yes the line looked horrible on the right side but I will bet a year's membership it won't be the starting line week 1.

I'm 80% sure it will consist of staley, martin, boone, thomas and i can't pinpoint the final spot.

...

so going forward i have to wait and see who they project to start on the right side. that isn't going to be it

and pass rush. but magini and his blitzes were perfect.

pears is actually better at tackle and they had him at guard in buffalo but he is at home in the zbs

we got rid of all the linemen who couldn't run the zone blocking system.

Before people from the outside come in and say all the regular media bullshit.

it's this simple.

the center and entire right side of the line is trash. no protection = no good.

the oc is committed to not doing the logical things to hide that which are play action passes, running to the strong side or using uptempo spread so that he can get the ball out of his hands immediately.

whenever he has those quick routes or do the logical things the offense is fine.

when he doesn't it looks horrible. really that simple.

until they say fuck it and actually not coach scared this will be the result.

 

[CurtDawg]

Yall are delusional, Yall seeing a team that "barely" misses the playoffs... C'mon man... No corners , no oline, patch work linebacker group... If this team wins 6 games that'll be impressive ... I'll revisit this post when we're 1-5

Yup you were right Killa
I gave them the benefit of the doubt & said 8-10 games, barely missing the playoffs
But the way this team is playing, we're looking at a top 10 draft pick

We wont win another game until we bench our RG (Devey) & RT (Pears)
1. Next game we need to start that rookie at right tackle, Trent Brown
I thought he actually looked good in the preseason

2. WTF is going on with Brandon Thomas ???
Dude has been INACTIVE the last few games...not even a backup...but INACTIVE !!!
I told ya'll something was still wrong with him, when I posted that video of him working out & practicing, during the offseason

3. If they won't play Thomas, then slide Marcus Martin over to RG...then have that dude we traded with the Ravens play center...Nick Easton

4. Do NOT let Ian Silberman start at guard. Dude is complete trash !!!


O-line next week needs to be...
Staley -- Boone -- Martin -- Thomas -- Brown
OR
Staley -- Boone -- Easton -- Martin -- Brown
This is our only chance to put up points to outscore the Giants next week

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

List of things they did not do that would have us at 2-2 more than likely.

- Did not call roll out plays because the line can't block on the right side.

-Did not come out of multiple tight end sets

-Did no relieve the pressure by calling screen passes, did not call deliberate check down routes. did not call quick passes to beat the pressure.

-Did not use hyde enough
-Did not use bruce ellington at all when he is pure speed.
-Was not creative and did not take multiple deep shots to torrey smith. he needs 3 a game.

In other words. Stop coaching like a bitch and open the offense up.

If you're going to go out, go out wild and fucking crazy. I'm tired of them being conservative until its too late and then trying to go uptempo.

Just do the shit from beginning to end. We are a way better team when we do.



LOVED the way the defense played. they didn't play perfect but they were on it... even jimmie ward.

Acker had good coverage he got a bomb caught on him but that was just one of those fucking miracle plays. if he plays the ball better he bats it down.

Line was stout again. lynch got constant pressure and armstead is living up to his 1st round pick status.

just get the shit together. sure we didn't have the luxury of playing shitty teams to get our feet wet but that's no excuse.

tomsula said changes to the line were coming.
so let's go out there and fucking compete. we are WAY better than what we are showing out there. way better.

if we get the line fixed and the play calling fixed the team is fixed.

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

The one thing I truly hate is the piling on kap solely.

Kap has played bad. He has had help playing bad. The line is atrocious and the play calling and lack of adjustment to how defenses are keying in on the horrible right side of the line has been just as bad.

It's automatically "Kap is not good enough to be a NFL qb" and we all know that's just flat out bullshit.

Before the line collapse he looked way better in everything he did when he got some time. He didn't forget how to do that in 2 weeks.

If teams are loading the box up then spread them out with 3 or 4 wide receivers since they're playing cover 0

or call max protect plays and let torrey smith and bruce ellington eat them up down the fucking field

it is not rocket science but the geep is acting like it is.


we moved the ball 2 times.

when we went uptempo spread

and when we took deep shots with torrey and played with tempo

how many more times do we need to see that work every single time before we finally make the switch over to that offense for an entire game?

like seriously? max protect and uptempo getting the ball out quick to the fast guys helps the play makers. it protects kap and it lets the offensive linemen hold a block for 2 seconds or less which they already have a big ass problem doing in the first place.

last regime didn't do this simple shit

these guys aren't doing this simple shit.

its time to wake the fuck up

 

[Soul On Ice]

on point as usual LBOP
the one thing I thought this staff would do was to do different things from the last regime.
we running draws on 3 on long, 3 TE sets, one wr on the field, bunch sets, no screens etc...

we have 22 men within 10yds of each other and we wonder why the fuck shit is literally running into a brick wall


also there are 3 threads on Kap on the main board on the first page

niggas love to see black people struggle eh

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

on point as usual LBOP
the one thing I thought this staff would do was to do different things from the last regime.
we running draws on 3 on long, 3 TE sets, one wr on the field, bunch sets, no screens etc...

we have 22 men within 10yds of each other and we wonder why the fuck shit is literally running into a brick wall


also there are 3 threads on Kap on the main board on the first page

niggas love to see black people struggle eh

People passionately hate kap. why i don't know?

But to your point. Ellington was healthy. Get him on the field. Get him the slot on the side of torrey or boldin and let him run loose. you can't cover ellington who runs that 4.3. in the open field. get it in his hands he runs it to the house.

like for instance, that big play to patton that's a touchdown if ellington does that play. nobody is coming at him on an angle it's a td.

BE CREATIVE

no more clunky ass 3 tigh end sets. let that dream go until we get to the goal line. until then open the offense up.
all off season we heard how we're going to let a ferrari be a ferrari and they haven't done it.

let's see if they make a change. 1 thing is not working. change it. look at the tapes see what we do well and execute well and do the shit.

defensively we're on track.

you can clown magini but all i expected was for him to keep things the same and add a little blitz but most importantly EVERYONE WAS GOING TO PLAY

so people may say well it looks like vic defense. no it doesn't because tank wouldn't be out there still. dial wouldn't be out there for unknown reasons. tartt wouldn't be playing. we wouldn't know how much armstead has improved because he wouldn't be playing. acker would be on the practice squad and shareece wright would be starting simply because he's a vet doesn't matter that he's the weak fucking link he'd be out there.

 

[ansatsusha_gouki]

What's up with the Kap hate...and how is the defense looking,so far this year..I haven't catch 49er game yet,but it seems like folks are piling on,for whatever reason.

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

What's up with the Kap hate...and how is the defense looking,so far this year..I haven't catch 49er game yet,but it seems like folks are piling on,for whatever reason.

That's just what they do man. lol. Nobody is more hated for unfounded reasons than Kap.

Nobody. dude is humble. works hard. plays hard. gives back. and all he gets in return is hate.

defense is finding its bearings. they'll be fine. the minute we open the offense up we'll be fine too.

but the right side of the line needs major changes. our starting center has been out the entire year but the good news is he'll be back week 7. he's already doing running and was practicing snaps before the last game with kap.

if the line gets fixed the entire team is fixed.

 

[1900KiLLa]

I'm not going to the game this weekend, I can't deal with Giant fans when we're good... I'm pretty sure we're gonna get embarrassed again & im definitely not dealing with that.

When are we gonna talk about things like, Torrey Smith being garbage (I said that when we got him), VD being cooked & Boldin being old... When you look at it realistically , Carlos Hyde is the bright spot on our entire offense.

 

[AwwSchitt]

I'll talk about Sunday's game before moving on...

Defense
They did their thing.... Remember when I talked about matching personnel? We did it. Mangini got his head out of his ass. 3 WR's and they brought in Ward to cover the slot guy (he did well also). Less loose zone and more in your face man coverage. It paid off.

The D-Line continues to impress. A-A-Ron showed out. We need more Amstead out there. He got push on the Rogers TD pass, but next to him was Jerrod-Eddie (who was lost out there). Thankfully, that was the last time he was out there on 3rd & long passing downs.

The DB's held up. Although you can see teams are continuing to go after Acker. Whenever there is a one-on-one expect a pass his way.

Offense
You guys have already said much of it. Bad play-calling, terrible line play, not using personnel properly, etc.

Where was the run game? I know the line is bad but WTF? Your 2 RB's only get 2 carries in a close game. Not to mention you have 1st & Goal from the 5 yard line and you go pass, pass, pass. That's a page out of the Greg Roman playbook right there.

 

[AwwSchitt]

I'm not going to the game this weekend, I can't deal with Giant fans when we're good... I'm pretty sure we're gonna get embarrassed again & im definitely not dealing with that.

When are we gonna talk about things like, Torrey Smith being garbage (I said that when we got him), VD being cooked & Boldin being old... When you look at it realistically , Carlos Hyde is the bright spot on our entire offense.

I'm considering going. I can get tickets but I need to reserve my cash for vacation in a few weeks.

Torrey Smith has actually been balling. Take your eye off the ball. That mofo is consistently getting open. He's not getting the ball though. Hell, even on the long pass Sunday Kaepernick under thew him. If it was on point that would have been 6.

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

I'm not going to the game this weekend, I can't deal with Giant fans when we're good... I'm pretty sure we're gonna get embarrassed again & im definitely not dealing with that.

When are we gonna talk about things like, Torrey Smith being garbage (I said that when we got him), VD being cooked & Boldin being old... When you look at it realistically , Carlos Hyde is the bright spot on our entire offense.

Torrey is a deep threat. they can't protect to allow him to go deep and the coaches aren't giving him short routes.

VD is def not the same player this should be his last season with us.

Boldin is old but still serviceable. We need to be getting ellington in the mix and others.

no more 3 tight end shit.

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

I'll talk about Sunday's game before moving on...

Defense
They did their thing.... Remember when I talked about matching personnel? We did it. Mangini got his head out of his ass. 3 WR's and they brought in Ward to cover the slot guy (he did well also). Less loose zone and more in your face man coverage. It paid off.

The D-Line continues to impress. A-A-Ron showed out. We need more Amstead out there. He got push on the Rogers TD pass, but next to him was Jerrod-Eddie (who was lost out there). Thankfully, that was the last time he was out there on 3rd & long passing downs.

The DB's held up. Although you can see teams are continuing to go after Acker. Whenever there is a one-on-one expect a pass his way.

Offense
You guys have already said much of it. Bad play-calling, terrible line play, not using personnel properly, etc.

Where was the run game? I know the line is bad but WTF? Your 2 RB's only get 2 carries in a close game. Not to mention you have 1st & Goal from the 5 yard line and you go pass, pass, pass. That's a page out of the Greg Roman playbook right there.

Defense played fast. Magini did the right thing. Blitz timely and play good defense that's all we needed.

the main difference is matching up like you mentioned. and playing the best players as well as all of the players.

arik is showing out man! he is really making strides. he with tank and lynch im loving that pass rush they had rodgers uncomfortable which is hard to do.

offense we need to be in 11 personnel the entire game period.

no 2 tight ends the entire game and no sets without 3 wrs

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

I'm considering going. I can get tickets but I need to reserve my cash for vacation in a few weeks.

Torrey Smith has actually been balling. Take your eye off the ball. That mofo is consistently getting open. He's not getting the ball though. Hell, even on the long pass Sunday Kaepernick under thew him. If it was on point that would have been 6.

And in order for us to get that down we need to call more of it. we need to take 5 of those deep shots every single game and they're just not doing it. take them off of max protect and let it rip.

and if we're not doing that we need to spread them the fuck out and make plays off of the uptempo game. quick passes. seam routes. crossing routes. everything quick to help the line and then mix in some run with hyde who will have 1 less linebacker in the game due to the 3 and 4wr sets.

how hard is that to figure out?

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

Traded Easton for Hodges who played with Bowman at Penn State. he's 24. He's a coverage linebacker which makes sense. no more wilhoite in coverage or forcing us to put a db in

this also means that more than likely tiller will be moved up and changes to the line as well.

 

[Soul On Ice]

Traded Easton for Hodges who played with Bowman at Penn State. he's 24. He's a coverage linebacker which makes sense. no more wilhoite in coverage or forcing us to put a db in

this also means that more than likely tiller will be moved up and changes to the line as well.

I wanted to see Easton get a look but I trust Baalkes defensive eye definitely.
And I keep hearing good things about Tiller so he can't be worse than Devey sorry ass.

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

I wanted to see Easton get a look but I trust Baalkes defensive eye definitely.
And I keep hearing good things about Tiller so he can't be worse than Devey sorry ass.

well easton was exclusively a center. to me this says that the team is 100% confident kilgore will be ready as soon as he's available to be back in the lineup

 

[Soul On Ice]

well easton was exclusively a center. to me this says that the team is 100% confident kilgore will be ready as soon as he's available to be back in the lineup

True but he's on the PUP.. so we gotta deal with 2 more weeks of this...
Smmfh

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[AwwSchitt]

Traded Easton for Hodges who played with Bowman at Penn State. he's 24. He's a coverage linebacker which makes sense. no more wilhoite in coverage or forcing us to put a db in

this also means that more than likely tiller will be moved up and changes to the line as well.

True, true...

Teams aren't running on us. You can see there will a lot more passing attempts from opponents because of this. Having a better coverage LB makes sense.

The right side of the line just terrible. Pears & Devey aren't getting the job done. All of this talk about benching Kaepernick but only us real fans see the real problem. It's time to give Trent Brown and Brandon Thomas a shot.

 

[AwwSchitt]

I bumped into Arik Armstead yesterday. Cool dude.

What are you guys looking for in tonight's game?

 

[Bumpee]

I bumped into Arik Armstead yesterday. Cool dude.

What are you guys looking for in tonight's game?

Carlos Hyde to at least get 20 carries a game. Eli to go Eli and have a multi-interception game.

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

Ok.
Let's pray that the OC sees that opening up the offense which we have been preaching for 4 years now yields results.

Open it up we go on a scoring drive and move the ball. keep it open in the red zone spread them out let hyde run against nickel and dime backs = td's

kap is designed to run a quick offense. spread them out he will make the right decision and throws how much more evidence do we need?

Also took out weak ass and put in Tiller HALLELUJAH our passing offense instantly got light years better. Keep him in.

Now defensively eli just gets it out too quick. we don't need to blitz. what we need to do is bring in Arik to push the pocket to go with lynch

and secondary stay in front of the wr's

we can do this.

Taking a deep shot with torrey already paid off. he's either going to catch it or its going to be interference. USE THAT.