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"ICE CUBE WAS ALWAYS DR DRE'S "SON" DON'T BELIEVE THE MOVIE" WellDamn? Artemus Gordon

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eewwll said:
I'm not from the Powell family tree.
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I feel you. Same here. But all those big blocks of one paragraph copy in a Instagram post made that shit way too onerous to go through for me.
 
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My question for dude would be, if he can elaborate on when NWA got chased out the Apollo by Mobstyle

As far as Dre telling Cube how to sound, dress, etc....If that happened, I see nothing wrong with that, There are people that do that at every record label, they are called "A&R's"

Also, Eazy was extorted and wanted out

http://www.byroncrawford.com/2011/04/the-jewish-defense-league-also-helped-steal-dr-dres-publishing.html





largebillsonlyplease said:
the winners write history.

always have. always will.
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This

34real said:
"Suge pissed on Andre Harrell(puffy's old boss)","Suge never layed a hand on Jimmy cause they had security and gangster's protecting him also".
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The infamous meeting where Suge took Harrell into a bathroom to negotiate business, that resulted in Mary J. and Jodeci being free agents. Nobody knows what happened completely, but there are reports he "did and said some things" to Harrell. After the incident Harrell never went anywhere without hired security, whatever it was it must have been horrible.




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woodchuck said:
IHe didn't teach him how to rhyme, but how to rap and deliver in a song. He had to do the same thing with Snoop when he started making records.
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If anything, it was similar to how Large Professor groomed and coached Nas on Illmatic.
 
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freshnclean said:


The infamous meeting where Suge took Harrell into a bathroom to negotiate business, that resulted in Mary J. and Jodeci being free agents. Nobody knows what happened completely, but there are reports he "did and said some things" to Harrell. After the incident Harrell never went anywhere without hired security, whatever it was it must have been horrible.




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And them splitting up. I was told by a person that was there, Suge stepped to KC and Jo Jo and told them that he was the group's new manager. The other 2 did this without them knowing. When Jo Jo asked what was going on, word is that Suge knocked him out and told the others to make sure he signed the paperwork when he came to. That's when KC and Jo Jo bounced, and the other 2 stayed out in LA. Again, grain of salt.
 
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woodchuck said:

And them splitting up. I was told by a person that was there, Suge stepped to KC and Jo Jo and told them that he was the group's new manager. .
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:smh::smh::smh::lol::lol:
 
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I woulda loved to be a fly on the wall during studio sessions for the chronic...suge another muthafucka who need to do an autobiography

*edit*

he's supposed to release one this year but they been saying that shit for over 10 years now
 
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woodchuck said:

And them splitting up. I was told by a person that was there, Suge stepped to KC and Jo Jo and told them that he was the group's new manager. The other 2 did this without them knowing. When Jo Jo asked what was going on, word is that Suge knocked him out and told the others to make sure he signed the paperwork when he came to. That's when KC and Jo Jo bounced, and the other 2 stayed out in LA. Again grain of salt.
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Whoa, the industry was crazy back then

I heard some disturbing things about the Suge and Devante beef. Is it true that Suge sent the goons to kick in his door to rob, pistol whip, and violate him?..:smh:




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These stories makes it seems like Suge Knight was tied to the mafia or something. Was his music business accumen worth all the trouble? Amazing to me that nobody killed dude.
 
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freshnclean said:
Whoa, the industry was crazy back then

I heard some disturbing things about the Suge and Devante beef. Is it true that Suge sent the goons to kick in his door to rob, pistol whip, and violate him?..:smh:




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I can't speak on that part!:lol:
 
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freshnclean said:
Was Artemus related to the Ruthless Records legacy somehow?

Or is he just some random lame on the sideline begging for attention
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Good question...dude post a lot of "inside info" on his IG post tho [emoji144]


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216 said:
Good question...dude post a lot of "inside info" on his IG post tho [emoji144]


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I went through his IG page and he has insider info on a lot of entertainers. Not just Deathrow and Ruthless records.
 
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alexw said:
a very good read but it seems like dude was really going out of his way to canonize eazy

interesting!!!!

he should probably write his own book
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Was Interesting; Not sure if he goes out of he way for Jerry; Maybe for Eazy but not for jerry; None the less, very interesting...


LSN said:
great read...I wonder who are the 4 rappers that got that G-pass...ice-T and eazy are 2...wonder who the other 2 are
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alexw said:
pac and wc
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I was thinking the same thing; And thats why I dont believe the nigga they were supposedly beating up in Vegas killed Pac....
 
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LordSinister said:
There was talk of it, but I quit hanging out once Suge went to that stupid level. I told Suge if he wants me to do some tracks, cool, but I'm not part of the production team like they told you, I'm freelance. :lol::lol:

Then Suge started handing out beatdowns and bitch slaps like Halloween candy shortly after. Our shit was doing good and I had other ways of making revenue other than the row.

I did go back to work on Paradise's album, but Suge just wanted to keep her busy while he was fucking other hoes. He had no intention of dropping an album on her.

I didn't give a shit, I was making money and she was buying me shit when we hung out.
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How long was you around the Row?? and also what other insight can you give??
 
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KrafMatik said:
These stories makes it seems like Suge Knight was tied to the mafia or something. Was his music business accumen worth all the trouble? Amazing to me that nobody killed dude.
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people are scared of people.
 
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regardless of what people say...them dudes together was talented than a mf...

all of them played a unique role and part...even heller...

so fuck all the this and that....

let just be thankful the universe allowed us to experience them
 
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alexw said:
pac and wc
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what about E-40? I tried to think of Westcoast OG's that everybody affiliated with the West co-signs no matter what and I came up with ICE-T, Eazy, PAC, and E-40.
 
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El Guapo said:
what about E-40? I tried to think of Westcoast OG's that everybody affiliated with the West co-signs no matter what and I came up with ICE-T, Eazy, PAC, and E-40.
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thats a solid list..
 
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:lol: I'd love to see a series of story re-enactments just on these inside stories about Suge.
 
Re: "ICE CUBE WAS ALWAYS DR DRE'S "SON" DON'T BELIEVE THE MOVIE" WellDamn? Artemus Go

How many people can say that they are the UNQUESTIONED GREATEST OF ALL TIME at what they do? This gentleman is pure genius. His "EAR" is undisputed. If there was a challenger they'd have just as much or even more of an impact than this man. I think what has made him even more clever is he has learned to maneuver and navigate on such an elite level now that it looks effortless. As in the case with the film, he shaped and molded his character portrayal to where he looked like the victim in most situations while bolstering his image as a street hip guy. BRILLIANT. Little things like his car throughout the movie, a lowrider, choice of wardrobe, and repeatedly punching dudes in the face would make someone in let say Oklahoma say, "Whew that Dr. Dre ain't no joke!" Well he isn't but not to that degree. Yes it is "Dre's way or the highway" but he is non confrontational. You won't know when you've been "kicked off the hood" till it's too late. So the parts where he tells Eazy and Suge respectively that he is leaving them....FALSE. You see when Cube rapped in the Top 5 All Time Diss Record, "No Vaseline", "Livin' with the whites. One big house and not another n**** in site..." He kind of told the truth about Eazy and Dre's living situation as they lived next door to one another in houses Eazy PAID for. Eazy also had one big bank account for himself, Dre and Ren to share with access to HUNDREDS of thousands of dollars. All this business about having no dough...hmmm where? The "Homeboy Honor System" again. When Dre left Ruthless he didn't tell anyone except Ren and asked him to leave with him in order to validate his move. Then he proceeded to STEAL HUNDREDS of thousands of dollars out of the joint bank account and the MASTERS to their music worth MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. When he left Deathrow, he stole the MASTERS to their music worth TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. So that whole last part about him confronting Suge at the studio, FALSE!!!! See flipping it around in the movie to make Suge look like the aggressor is nice and tidy a fits just right in a 147min film. Once again, the same person that got in Cube's ear to leave Ruthless, also sparked Dre's fuse.
 
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Why make him out to be a "weenie" in the end of the film? Why negate that he had UNIVERSAL RESPECT EVERYWHERE? That "VIP WRISTBAND" status that I describe, Rappers out here would die for and he had it 10 fold. Why act like after Dre left he had more and more hits? He had arguably THE BIGGEST Rap group in the world. Who sold quintuple platinum. Why act like HE DIDN'T GET PAID AS MUCH IF NOT MORE THAN DRE ON DEATHROW RELEASES???? Why have him portrayed as the ONLY womanizer in the group when THEY ALL WERE???? This is the trailblazer. This is the gangster. This is the maverick. But you make him beg to have negroes come back? That scene in the film in NYC where he comes up to Cube and asks to talk...NO! It was the other way around! Eazy was there situated and Cube and Mack 10 asked to come up and talk to him! They had already made peace on the set of CB4. Why make downgrade E? See maybe part of the problem is, he married Tomica on his death bed right there in the hospital(post eventually), and maybe she harbors resentment because if that were Me as a producer of the film, I never would have let My loved one look like they were doing bad. Part of the reason he downgraded was because HE TOOK CARE OF EVERYONE. First class all the way. Have you ever noticed that no one else complained about money with E? Hmmmmm... Ask yourself why is that????
 
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Here is the "VIP WRISTBAND 4" By @artemusgordon via @RepostWhiz app: There have only been FOUR so called LA based rappers EVER to be able to walk in ANY neighborhood they wanted to WITHOUT security or "The Homies". Ice T, Eazy, W.C. and Pac period. The one time Ice T was EVER robbed, the so called assailant was found dead the next day AND Ice T got ALL of his belongings returned. Eazy only got security after an incident with Suge at Jerry Heller's suggestion. Pac was THE most powerful rapper at the time and everyone wanted to "touch the hem of his garment". As for W.C., he has been one of the VERY FEW LA Crip rappers to truly be from his hood and not an honorary member because of Rapping. As a result Dub has garnered ultimate respect in the streets.
 
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I
came up with ICE-T, Eazy, PAC, and E-40.
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Before 40 I would think Hammer and the only one near that would be too short who's originally from LA or King T.

Nutty ass Coolio,dub C,DJ Quik,Tone Loc even who I read somewhere that he made that type of music but he didn't fuck around.

:dance:Recently found out that Warren G produced Mc Breeds hit with Pac.
 
Re: "ICE CUBE WAS ALWAYS DR DRE'S "SON" DON'T BELIEVE THE MOVIE" WellDamn? Artemus Go

Cliff notes.
 
Re: "ICE CUBE WAS ALWAYS DR DRE'S "SON" DON'T BELIEVE THE MOVIE" WellDamn? Artemus Go

didn't short get ran outta oakland tho? thus the ATL move?

34real said:
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Before 40 I would think Hammer and the only one near that would be too short who's originally from LA or King T.

Nutty ass Coolio,dub C,DJ Quik,Tone Loc even who I read somewhere that he made that type of music but he didn't fuck around.

:dance:Recently found out that Warren G produced Mc Breeds hit with Pac.
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LSN said:
didn't short get ran outta oakland tho? thus the ATL move?
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Well kinda. :lol:

There was a lot of beefing and drug wars going on and he bounced to ATL during the time when Death Row was taking off.
 
Re: "ICE CUBE WAS ALWAYS DR DRE'S "SON" DON'T BELIEVE THE MOVIE" WellDamn? Artemus Go

This eazy dickrider forgot to mention how he got hiv.

Heller and e wasn't paying what was owed. Cube should have left because he was talented enough.
Also this bitch didnt even say straight up who was in cubes ear and dres ear
 
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Subs...
 
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lazarus said:
This eazy dickrider forgot to mention how he got hiv.

Heller and e wasn't paying what was owed. Cube should have left because he was talented enough.
Also this bitch didnt even say straight up who was in cubes ear and dres ear
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D.O.C, Suge was his manager and started peeping the Doc's contract with ruthless
 

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