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E got the jokes lol
E got the jokes lol
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Re: "ICE CUBE WAS ALWAYS DR DRE'S "SON" DON'T BELIEVE THE MOVIE" WellDamn? Artemus Go
Movie was great
Movie was great
Re: "ICE CUBE WAS ALWAYS DR DRE'S "SON" DON'T BELIEVE THE MOVIE" WellDamn? Artemus Go
Same thing I was thinking.
ice cube admitted there would be no nwa without heller, he said he was a advocate for nwa,nwa albums gonna sell like crazy after this movie from new fans and old , im sure cube ren and d.o.c will get some nice publishing checks off that
Same thing I was thinking.
Re: "ICE CUBE WAS ALWAYS DR DRE'S "SON" DON'T BELIEVE THE MOVIE" WellDamn? Artemus Go
Lyor Cohen spent a few years running from Suge.
Jimmy Iovine has been shot at more than once & had shots fired into his house. And still has the bullet proof cars-Havent seen the Excursion in years, but still has a last gen bullet proof Navi. And multiple 24 hour armed guards on property to prevent it from happening again.
Unlike a rapper who plays up such events. He hired more security & smothered it. Beef aint just bad for business in the streets, its bad for business period.
The same goes for Lucian Grainge, Doug Morris, Russell Simmons, & Suge Knight etc. Chances are you gone feel some "pressure" fuckin around in the music business.
its not weird at all...if anything its glaringly obvious how the conditioning shows..
throughout that whole period of threats, beatdowns and shootings NO CAC OR JEW OF POWER WAS EVER TOUCHED. EVER. as much shit and hate everyone talks about lyor cohen for the last 20 years..not a bruise.
the ONLY white dude that got hemmed up was VANILLA ICE..a wannabe wigger.
meanwhile black rappers and associating black females were getting their asses kicked left and right culminating in two of the biggest rappers of the decade publicly murdered.
Thats why while I'm happy for the success of a black project in general..the black people it involved is hard for me to have respect for because they exhibit and perpetuate all the wrong things future cats aspire too.
Lyor Cohen spent a few years running from Suge.
Jimmy Iovine has been shot at more than once & had shots fired into his house. And still has the bullet proof cars-Havent seen the Excursion in years, but still has a last gen bullet proof Navi. And multiple 24 hour armed guards on property to prevent it from happening again.
Unlike a rapper who plays up such events. He hired more security & smothered it. Beef aint just bad for business in the streets, its bad for business period.
The same goes for Lucian Grainge, Doug Morris, Russell Simmons, & Suge Knight etc. Chances are you gone feel some "pressure" fuckin around in the music business.
Re: "ICE CUBE WAS ALWAYS DR DRE'S "SON" DON'T BELIEVE THE MOVIE" WellDamn? Artemus Go
Yeah he clearly has something against Cube. Seems like this dude has a agenda. He's talking like Cube put them hands on him or some shit.
That puts a new perspective on things. Cube really did set himself up in the movie as the underdog who made it appear as Jerry was stealing from them all. That's how I always understood it. So the part where Eazy goes to Heller about the financials being off was that true? And if NWA had their own distribution deal
Dude makes it appear as Cube was really just a hater upset he didn't have what everyone else was having.
Yeah he clearly has something against Cube. Seems like this dude has a agenda. He's talking like Cube put them hands on him or some shit.
Re: "ICE CUBE WAS ALWAYS DR DRE'S "SON" DON'T BELIEVE THE MOVIE" WellDamn? Artemus Go
I need to punch a few holes in this shit homie is pushing.
First, Heller is the devil. Dre was doing all the production but was getting the same points as everyone else. If anyone knows how production works, Dre should be getting an artist and production royalty.
Cube did leave to go to school in Px, but he wasn't getting paid. Dre was the one going to jail with multiple baby mommas. Cube was a nerdy cat back in the day.
CIA was modeled after the beastie boys, not run DMC. Back then Cube copied the style of whoever was hot. He copied Ice T (Boyz in tha hood) Chcuk D (Amerikkka's most wanted) and half the cats at the good life later on.
It's because Cube was able to take the streets and turn them into raps is why they blew up in the first place. JD from the lench mob and the other cats from Neighborhood crip is where he got all his game from.
But to go back, he wasn't getting the correct amount of money, and Jerry was like "fuck these dudes, you the man Eric"
I have known all of these cats from back in the Dr Dre/ Cli-N-Tel surgery days and there are a lot of myths about the shit.
I need to punch a few holes in this shit homie is pushing.
First, Heller is the devil. Dre was doing all the production but was getting the same points as everyone else. If anyone knows how production works, Dre should be getting an artist and production royalty.
Cube did leave to go to school in Px, but he wasn't getting paid. Dre was the one going to jail with multiple baby mommas. Cube was a nerdy cat back in the day.
CIA was modeled after the beastie boys, not run DMC. Back then Cube copied the style of whoever was hot. He copied Ice T (Boyz in tha hood) Chcuk D (Amerikkka's most wanted) and half the cats at the good life later on.
It's because Cube was able to take the streets and turn them into raps is why they blew up in the first place. JD from the lench mob and the other cats from Neighborhood crip is where he got all his game from.
But to go back, he wasn't getting the correct amount of money, and Jerry was like "fuck these dudes, you the man Eric"
I have known all of these cats from back in the Dr Dre/ Cli-N-Tel surgery days and there are a lot of myths about the shit.
Re: "ICE CUBE WAS ALWAYS DR DRE'S "SON" DON'T BELIEVE THE MOVIE" WellDamn? Artemus Go
Good read. Everyone knew there would be a lot of details left out of the movie. There really are no heroes in this story, just a bunch of cats trying to get paid.
Good read. Everyone knew there would be a lot of details left out of the movie. There really are no heroes in this story, just a bunch of cats trying to get paid.
Re: "ICE CUBE WAS ALWAYS DR DRE'S "SON" DON'T BELIEVE THE MOVIE" WellDamn? Artemus Go
Nothing happens to any of the white dudes that supposedly be fucking these dudes out of money. Lyor Cohen ain't been touched.
Nothing happens to any of the white dudes that supposedly be fucking these dudes out of money. Lyor Cohen ain't been touched.
Re: "ICE CUBE WAS ALWAYS DR DRE'S "SON" DON'T BELIEVE THE MOVIE" WellDamn? Artemus Go
and shoot down "The Producer"
same thing I said
and shoot down "The Producer"
same thing I said
Re: "ICE CUBE WAS ALWAYS DR DRE'S "SON" DON'T BELIEVE THE MOVIE" WellDamn? Artemus Go
neither has baby
neither has baby
Re: "ICE CUBE WAS ALWAYS DR DRE'S "SON" DON'T BELIEVE THE MOVIE" WellDamn? Artemus Go
Re: "ICE CUBE WAS ALWAYS DR DRE'S "SON" DON'T BELIEVE THE MOVIE" WellDamn? Artemus Go
The D.O.C. He not only put a battery in Cube's back, but he hooked up Suge with Dre to get Dre to break out.
The D.O.C. He not only put a battery in Cube's back, but he hooked up Suge with Dre to get Dre to break out.
Re: "ICE CUBE WAS ALWAYS DR DRE'S "SON" DON'T BELIEVE THE MOVIE" WellDamn? Artemus Go
Right. Dame punched Steve Stoute or whoever the fuck he said he punched but he could never get his hands on Lyor who he hated......
Right. Dame punched Steve Stoute or whoever the fuck he said he punched but he could never get his hands on Lyor who he hated......
Re: "ICE CUBE WAS ALWAYS DR DRE'S "SON" DON'T BELIEVE THE MOVIE" WellDamn? Artemus Go
welp...there goes geechie's narrative for this thread
welp...there goes geechie's narrative for this thread
Re: "ICE CUBE WAS ALWAYS DR DRE'S "SON" DON'T BELIEVE THE MOVIE" WellDamn? Artemus Go
cool info...I don't think I can hold out any longer...gotta see this flick this week...seems like these brothers is still controversial
cool info...I don't think I can hold out any longer...gotta see this flick this week...seems like these brothers is still controversial
Re: "ICE CUBE WAS ALWAYS DR DRE'S "SON" DON'T BELIEVE THE MOVIE" WellDamn? Artemus Go
Not getting publishing is one of the reasons these cat's was broke in the first place!!
Doc sold all of his rights to Eazy for like 10K and some drank!
ice cube admitted there would be no nwa without heller, he said he was a advocate for nwa,
Not getting publishing is one of the reasons these cat's was broke in the first place!!
Doc sold all of his rights to Eazy for like 10K and some drank!
Re: "ICE CUBE WAS ALWAYS DR DRE'S "SON" DON'T BELIEVE THE MOVIE" WellDamn? Artemus Go
Not getting publishing is one of the reasons these cat's was broke in the first place!!
Doc sold all of his rights to Eazy for like 10K and some drank!
Re: "ICE CUBE WAS ALWAYS DR DRE'S "SON" DON'T BELIEVE THE MOVIE" WellDamn? Artemus Go
^^^ real shit.
Did they want to get back together before Eazy died?
^^^ real shit.
Did they want to get back together before Eazy died?
Re: "ICE CUBE WAS ALWAYS DR DRE'S "SON" DON'T BELIEVE THE MOVIE" WellDamn? Artemus Go
whose fuckin side are you on leroy.. unlike you I don't revel in blacks killing blacks in an industry we should be running considering we literally supply the blood, sweat and tears.
show me one dead or shot UP not AT white man in the record industry by blacks and I'll show you 3 dead rappers or producers.
And even tho so called independent labels popped up like goosebumps the leverage of power in the industry at the end of the fuckin day is STILL with cacs and jews. All those indy labels should have been looking for ways to consolidate together rather than beefing with each other and beating on women.
whose fuckin side are you on leroy.. unlike you I don't revel in blacks killing blacks in an industry we should be running considering we literally supply the blood, sweat and tears.
show me one dead or shot UP not AT white man in the record industry by blacks and I'll show you 3 dead rappers or producers.
And even tho so called independent labels popped up like goosebumps the leverage of power in the industry at the end of the fuckin day is STILL with cacs and jews. All those indy labels should have been looking for ways to consolidate together rather than beefing with each other and beating on women.
Re: "ICE CUBE WAS ALWAYS DR DRE'S "SON" DON'T BELIEVE THE MOVIE" WellDamn? Artemus Go
Both of these make sense... and can fit in with the riddles he gave in describing the person.I follow Artemis on IG too...he's enlightened me about a LOT of the industry...The person in Cube's ear was his WIFE (clues are given in the movie as well)
Re: "ICE CUBE WAS ALWAYS DR DRE'S "SON" DON'T BELIEVE THE MOVIE" WellDamn? Artemus Go
There was talk of it, but I quit hanging out once Suge went to that stupid level. I told Suge if he wants me to do some tracks, cool, but I'm not part of the production team like they told you, I'm freelance.
Then Suge started handing out beatdowns and bitch slaps like Halloween candy shortly after. Our shit was doing good and I had other ways of making revenue other than the row.
I did go back to work on Paradise's album, but Suge just wanted to keep her busy while he was fucking other hoes. He had no intention of dropping an album on her.
I didn't give a shit, I was making money and she was buying me shit when we hung out.
There was talk of it, but I quit hanging out once Suge went to that stupid level. I told Suge if he wants me to do some tracks, cool, but I'm not part of the production team like they told you, I'm freelance.
Then Suge started handing out beatdowns and bitch slaps like Halloween candy shortly after. Our shit was doing good and I had other ways of making revenue other than the row.
I did go back to work on Paradise's album, but Suge just wanted to keep her busy while he was fucking other hoes. He had no intention of dropping an album on her.
I didn't give a shit, I was making money and she was buying me shit when we hung out.
Re: "ICE CUBE WAS ALWAYS DR DRE'S "SON" DON'T BELIEVE THE MOVIE" WellDamn? Artemus Go
Yeah, Cube was Dre's son...you lost me right there. Cube was the one writing..Dre was doing the producing...the reason it's clear that they were the talent is because where Cube went...his rhymes went. They were there in NWA..they were there when he was solo...they were there in West Side Connection..Where Dre went..with help or not..that's where the groundbreaking music went. Maybe Dre brought him into a bigger fold initially, but all I have heard is Cube got in some fights and maybe got the short end of the stick on occasions..but he was never afraid to go at any of them in interviews or on the mic. And all I hear about is Dre beating up hoes. and any thread that wants to say that them cracker devil's were somehow giving some street niggas a fair shake and is the reason for everything great and nothing foul is a bullshit thread which history has proven. Fool got too much time on his hands.
Yeah, Cube was Dre's son...you lost me right there. Cube was the one writing..Dre was doing the producing...the reason it's clear that they were the talent is because where Cube went...his rhymes went. They were there in NWA..they were there when he was solo...they were there in West Side Connection..Where Dre went..with help or not..that's where the groundbreaking music went. Maybe Dre brought him into a bigger fold initially, but all I have heard is Cube got in some fights and maybe got the short end of the stick on occasions..but he was never afraid to go at any of them in interviews or on the mic. And all I hear about is Dre beating up hoes. and any thread that wants to say that them cracker devil's were somehow giving some street niggas a fair shake and is the reason for everything great and nothing foul is a bullshit thread which history has proven. Fool got too much time on his hands.
Re: "ICE CUBE WAS ALWAYS DR DRE'S "SON" DON'T BELIEVE THE MOVIE" WellDamn? Artemus Go
When it comes to who broke up the group I follow the money first. The record exec that tried to short Cube was also the same dude who signed NWA. In splitting them up he was guaranteed two streams of revenue.
Why would Cube go to him of all people knowing the relationship that he had with NWA?
He had inside knowledge about the contracts and who wasn't under one. He had inside knowledge about a lot of shit.
As far as Dre leaving that may have been all D.O.C.'s doing.
When it comes to who broke up the group I follow the money first. The record exec that tried to short Cube was also the same dude who signed NWA. In splitting them up he was guaranteed two streams of revenue.
Why would Cube go to him of all people knowing the relationship that he had with NWA?
He had inside knowledge about the contracts and who wasn't under one. He had inside knowledge about a lot of shit.
As far as Dre leaving that may have been all D.O.C.'s doing.
Re: "ICE CUBE WAS ALWAYS DR DRE'S "SON" DON'T BELIEVE THE MOVIE" WellDamn? Artemus Go
Peace,
Dre taught Cube how to spit? Stop it.
Peace,
Dre taught Cube how to spit? Stop it.
Re: "ICE CUBE WAS ALWAYS DR DRE'S "SON" DON'T BELIEVE THE MOVIE" WellDamn? Artemus Go
this is why.
this is why.
Re: "ICE CUBE WAS ALWAYS DR DRE'S "SON" DON'T BELIEVE THE MOVIE" WellDamn? Artemus Go
I understand it. He didn't teach him how to rhyme, but how to rap and deliver in a song. He had to do the same thing with Snoop when he started making records. I remember Poison Clan's first time in a professional booth, they were lost as far as how to make an actual record. They just went in and just starting throwing out lines (albeit amazing ones!), and Mixx looked at me like He had to stop the session and teach them how to deliver their rhymes and which words and phrases to emphasize.
I understand it. He didn't teach him how to rhyme, but how to rap and deliver in a song. He had to do the same thing with Snoop when he started making records. I remember Poison Clan's first time in a professional booth, they were lost as far as how to make an actual record. They just went in and just starting throwing out lines (albeit amazing ones!), and Mixx looked at me like
He had to stop the session and teach them how to deliver their rhymes and which words and phrases to emphasize.
Re: "ICE CUBE WAS ALWAYS DR DRE'S "SON" DON'T BELIEVE THE MOVIE" WellDamn? Artemus Go
Wow. I like the way the film implied how one of the dudes receiving the beatdown from Suge's crew was "toasting" piss.
There was talk of it, but I quit hanging out once Suge went to that stupid level. I told Suge if he wants me to do some tracks, cool, but I'm not part of the production team like they told you, I'm freelance.
Then Suge started handing out beatdowns and bitch slaps like Halloween candy shortly after. Our shit was doing good and I had other ways of making revenue other than the row.
I did go back to work on Paradise's album, but Suge just wanted to keep her busy while he was fucking other hoes. He had no intention of dropping an album on her.
I didn't give a shit, I was making money and she was buying me shit when we hung out.
Wow. I like the way the film implied how one of the dudes receiving the beatdown from Suge's crew was "toasting" piss.
Re: "ICE CUBE WAS ALWAYS DR DRE'S "SON" DON'T BELIEVE THE MOVIE" WellDamn? Artemus Go
A couple of the engineers that worked on the Death Row stuff, worked on our album when he were recording at Paramount. Man, the fucking stories they told us! If a musician fucked up, instead of blaming the muso, they'd take the engineer out back and beat the shit out of him, and send him back in to finish working.
There was talk of it, but I quit hanging out once Suge went to that stupid level. I told Suge if he wants me to do some tracks, cool, but I'm not part of the production team like they told you, I'm freelance.
Then Suge started handing out beatdowns and bitch slaps like Halloween candy shortly after. Our shit was doing good and I had other ways of making revenue other than the row.
I did go back to work on Paradise's album, but Suge just wanted to keep her busy while he was fucking other hoes. He had no intention of dropping an album on her.
I didn't give a shit, I was making money and she was buying me shit when we hung out.
A couple of the engineers that worked on the Death Row stuff, worked on our album when he were recording at Paramount. Man, the fucking stories they told us! If a musician fucked up, instead of blaming the muso, they'd take the engineer out back and beat the shit out of him, and send him back in to finish working.
Re: "ICE CUBE WAS ALWAYS DR DRE'S "SON" DON'T BELIEVE THE MOVIE" WellDamn? Artemus Go
And a Gold Dookie Rope Necklace
Not getting publishing is one of the reasons these cat's was broke in the first place!!
Doc sold all of his rights to Eazy for like 10K and some drank!
And a Gold Dookie Rope Necklace
Re: "ICE CUBE WAS ALWAYS DR DRE'S "SON" DON'T BELIEVE THE MOVIE" WellDamn? Artemus Go
Truth probably sits somewhere in the middle. Dude definitely provided some perspectives that I've never heard. You're right though..why give ALL those details and then speak in riddles?
Truth probably sits somewhere in the middle. Dude definitely provided some perspectives that I've never heard. You're right though..why give ALL those details and then speak in riddles?
Re: "ICE CUBE WAS ALWAYS DR DRE'S "SON" DON'T BELIEVE THE MOVIE" WellDamn? Artemus Go
There was this cat I knew back in the from Dallas named Dazzlin Pran. He was in an earlier version of the Fila Fresh Crew, but he kept in touch with D.O.C. He once told me that Doc writing verses for Dre in exchange for new furniture for his crib sometimes, instead of publishing, which now I know that E got.
Doc sold all of his rights to Eazy for like 10K and some drank!
There was this cat I knew back in the from Dallas named Dazzlin Pran. He was in an earlier version of the Fila Fresh Crew, but he kept in touch with D.O.C. He once told me that Doc writing verses for Dre in exchange for new furniture for his crib sometimes, instead of publishing, which now I know that E got.
Re: "ICE CUBE WAS ALWAYS DR DRE'S "SON" DON'T BELIEVE THE MOVIE" WellDamn? Artemus Go
Yeah. I can EASILY buy that considering all the shit people say about working with Dre in the studio. Dude supposedly will make you do a fucking line over 100 times until the shit is emphasized the "right" way.
I understand it. He didn't teach him how to rhyme, but how to rap and deliver in a song. He had to do the same thing with Snoop when he started making records. I remember Poison Clan's first time in a professional booth, they were lost as far as how to make an actual record. They just went in and just starting throwing out lines (albeit amazing ones!), and Mixx looked at me like
Yeah. I can EASILY buy that considering all the shit people say about working with Dre in the studio. Dude supposedly will make you do a fucking line over 100 times until the shit is emphasized the "right" way.
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