Game Of Thrones: The Sopranos with swords or Dynasty in chainmail?

[The Technician]

Lord Peytr Baelish reminds me of Francis Underwood.

Kevin Spacey plays 'Frank Underwood' (Majority Whip/ Speaker of the House) on the Netflix series 'House of Cards'.

Underwood successfully plots to become the next President of the United States... without ever having just ONE single vote cast in his favor for a Presidential election.

You gotta be a 'master schemer'.... Like Littlefinger & Underwood to pull that shit off.

Yeah me too. And they are willing to burn shit to the ground to get to their goals. And they're both weak for a woman.

Franks schemes are starting to show some external cracks. Frank can still correct the problems, but he has to act quickly and intelligently. Maybe Baelish is on the same trajectory. Has Baelish even taken a major loss yet?

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[ansatsusha_gouki]

Lord Peytr Baelish reminds me of Francis Underwood.

Kevin Spacey plays 'Frank Underwood' (Majority Whip/ Speaker of the House) on the Netflix series 'House of Cards'.

Underwood successfully plots to become the next President of the United States... without ever having just ONE single vote cast in his favor for a Presidential election.

You gotta be a 'master schemer'.... Like Littlefinger & Underwood to pull that shit off.

What makes Petyr's scheme,so great is that nobody isn't even looking at him..He's causing so much chaos,while climbing up the ladder.That's why I love the dialogue between him and Varys in season three,about chaos being a ladder,because this is exactly what Petyr was talking about..Nobody from the Seven Kingdoms wont suspect a lowborn causing this much chaos..

 

[BlkStrength]

Jorah. Jon Snow. Randyll Tarly. Jamie Lannister. Khal Drogo. Dharrio. Bron. Brienne. Baristan. Robert(Because he did beat Rhaegar in 1 on 1 combat). Ned Stark. Loras Tyrell. Sandor. Gregor. Oberyn.

Rank'em by fight ability.

I'm putting Baristan at the top. I don't see anyone on this list capable of beating him 1 on 1. He taught Jamie. After Baristan it gets blurry i guess. I'd put Ned under him because Ned is a war vet of quite a few battles. And Ned WAS holding Jamie who at the time was known to be the best.

2nd Randyll Tarly - Oberyn - Gregor - Sandor - Robert
3rd Dharrio - Jorah - Drogo - Bron - Brienne
4th Robert - Jon Snow - Loras Tyrell

I put Jon as 4th because Jon to has been in battles but he keeps having to be saved. And Loras hasn't really proved himself. He's good and trains well but he's not faced anyone of note. And Robert because his only person of note was Rhaegar but i'm thinking he went zerker and beat him there. And if i remember Ned was better than him.

Baristan and Jorah
and
Jamie and I believe it was Ned
remarked how in awe they were of Thoros of Myr, going first into battle with his flaming sword. (The drinking priest in the cave). Someone also mentioned he defeated the Mountain one on one in a tourney. It's all second hand account...I think he said he was retired.

 

[Give Me 3ft.]

where the fuck is blackfish?​

 

[crossovernegro]

lol, he got the fuck outta there when Lord Frey's ugly ass daughter's smiled at him at the red wedding

where the fuck is blackfish?​

 

[crossovernegro]

Nobody said shit when hot ass Daenary's was getting raped by her husband and the suggestion before that that her brother was raping her and said that he would let 100 dudes run up in her if it got him his crown.
People just want to be selectively outraged over some shit that happens in a fantasy land where your spouse is chosen for you, Lords can rape commoners with no consequence (Tywin had dudes rape Tyrion's first girlfriend... Roose Bolton raped Ramsey's mother, etc)... Hell, at the end of last season, Jaime raped Cersei right by Joffery's dead body (she was saying no, but he kept on).

The rape scene wasn't that bad and it was a character swap. But I agree with the fact that it was an attractive girl that got raped is what driving people or feminist crazy. I dont think they made a big deal hen drogo raped daenarys.

Have the producers been forced to apologize yet?

 

[ThaBurgerPimp]

And not this

Sarah Connor getting blown out by Arthur Curry

 

[Nobody]

What makes Petyr's scheme,so great is that nobody isn't even looking at him..He's causing so much chaos,while climbing up the ladder.That's why I love the dialogue between him and Varys in season three,about chaos being a ladder,because this is exactly what Petyr was talking about..Nobody from the Seven Kingdoms wont suspect a lowborn causing this much chaos..

Didn't everything happen because of his scheming? IIRC it was something he did before the show began that set the events in motion.

Having a whore house probably got him privy to a lot of secrets.

 

[Nobody]

The irony of this convo with one dude having Mike Tyson as his AVI carry on

I've had avatars turned off for 10 years i think, it's the original avatar i chose.

funny shit though.

 

[LSN]

Didn't everything happen because of his scheming? IIRC it was something he did before the show began that set the events in motion.

Having a whore house probably got him privy to a lot of secrets.

ya he poisoned lysa's husband...the original hand of the king (robert baratheon) and lysa (falsely) implicated the lannisters...which is what started everything

 

[Flawless]

ya he poisoned lysa's husband...the original hand of the king (robert baratheon) and lysa (falsely) implicated the lannisters...which is what started everything

Eventually Cersei would have had set up Robbert on a hunt and shit would have popped off anyway.

 

[Nobody]

ya he poisoned lysa's husband...the original hand of the king (robert baratheon) and lysa (falsely) implicated the lannisters...which is what started everything

Well there we go. Imagine how boring this show would've been if his mom would've aborted him.

 

[LSN]

Well there we go. Imagine how boring this show would've been if his mom would've aborted him.

show has done a great job of misdirecting most ppl from seeing who the true main characters are...the ones as some said before who are untouchable and I agree...

littlefinger (lol @ the irony of his nickname)
jon snow
daenerys
tyrion

 

[silentking]

show has done a great job of misdirecting most ppl from seeing who the true main characters are...the ones as some said before who are untouchable and I agree...

littlefinger (lol @ the irony of his nickname)
jon snow
daenerys
tyrion

dont forget Varys.

 

[LSN]

dont forget Varys.

true!

 

[Nobody]

show has done a great job of misdirecting most ppl from seeing who the true main characters are...the ones as some said before who are untouchable and I agree...

littlefinger (lol @ the irony of his nickname)
jon snow
daenerys
tyrion

Add Arya as well.

I wouldn't say Varys is a main character. He supports the main characters, but doesn't actually push the story forward himself. He facilitates it.

I definitely think those four you mentioned and Arya are the mains.

Anything that would kill them would have to be big.

*edit - and Cersei!

 

[LSN]

Add Arya as well.

I wouldn't say Varys is a main character. He supports the main characters, but doesn't actually push the story forward himself. He facilitates it.

I definitely think those four you mentioned and Arya are the mains.

Anything that would kill them would have to be big.

*edit - and Cersei!

arya possibly...I can see that @ this current rate

I think cersei is about to slide downhill fast...we'll see tho

 

[Flawless]

arya possibly...I can see that @ this current rate

I think cersei is about to slide downhill fast...we'll see tho

I think Cersei will be around until the end, I dont see anyone else being a bigger villain in Kings Landing, the story needs her to be causing a ruckus.

 

[silentking]

I'll give you Arya and to a lesser extent Cersei.....but I'm gonna continue to advocate for Varys. The thing with Arya's storyline, as much as I love it....is that it has had very little impact on the other main characters to this point. Cersei's has....I just dont like that bitch...lol. But Varys....for the first 4 seasons the actions of Varys and Littlefinger pretty much drove the show if you were really paying attention. He's possibly the only cat playing the game of thrones that's on Littlefinger's level....and he's not after the throne for himself which makes him a wild card. The "ladder" monologue was a deciding point in the show...and it's no coincidence that Littlefinger was saying it to Varys. And if you notice, Littlefinger's actions since have been more and more visible while Varys' have been more and more subtle. I dont think that's a coincidence either. I could be wrong in the end....we'll see....but I'm saying it now....dont sleep on Varys.

 

[Nobody]

I'll give you Arya and to a lesser extent Cersei.....but I'm gonna continue to advocate for Varys. The thing with Arya's storyline, as much as I love it....is that it has had very little impact on the other main characters to this point. Cersei's has....I just dont like that bitch...lol. But Varys....for the first 4 seasons the actions of Varys and Littlefinger pretty much drove the show if you were really paying attention. He's possibly the only cat playing the game of thrones that's on Littlefinger's level....and he's not after the throne for himself which makes him a wild card. The "ladder" monologue was a deciding point in the show...and it's no coincidence that Littlefinger was saying it to Varys. And if you notice, Littlefinger's actions since have been more and more visible while Varys' have been more and more subtle. I dont think that's a coincidence either. I could be wrong in the end....we'll see....but I'm saying it now....dont sleep on Varys.

None of that makes Varys a main character.

There is no story arc surrounding Varys that needs to be followed. You can go episode after episode without him. You can't take more than a one episode break from:

Jon Snow
Littlefinger
Cersei
Arya
Dany (fuck spelling her name lol)
Tyrion


Varys is always seen with one of those principle main characters. His arc doesn't work without one of them being present, and at most they're a scene away.. He supports those character arcs, he's not a driving force of it or his own arc.

You can argue Arya as a main character even more with the fact that her story is currently detached from the others which means it stands completely on it's own thereby making her a MAIN CHARACTER.

(Jon's story is detached from those listed above, and so is Dany's - until Tyrion arrives - which has to happen because they can't all be detached and then bring in the other stark boy)

You don't have to have impact on someone else's story to be a main character, at some point you have to bring them back into the main storyline, but she's currently on a quest to develop her character that doesn't require anyone else.

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

damn he was blamming that shit huh

 

[grownazzblakman]

arya possibly...I can see that @ this current rate



I think cersei is about to slide downhill fast...we'll see tho

Agreed.

We may be witnessing the dramatic 'fall' of House Lannister.

With Tywin dearly departed.... I wouldn't be surprised if either Cersei or Jamie will be killed by the season 5 finale . (Or BOTH of em )

Jamie may get finished off by the Martells, now that he has been captured by his enemies........ yet again. (Doran Martell might pick up where Robb Stark left off and finish the job this time around)

Meanwhile Cersei prolly gets 'put to sleep' by the Queen of Thornes, or she just gets double-crossed by the High Sparrow himself (if he decides to grab the Iron Throne for himself, if he ever finds out about all the 'royal incest' - which btw, I can see Lady Olenna 'dropping dimes' in his ear about it real soon )

Even if Cersei survives Lady Olenna's poisonous wrath and/or the potential 'Inquisition' from the Faith Militant... Littlefinger is still waiting to 'pull a fast one' on everybody., in the aftermath. (Assuming the 'leg breakers' of the Iron Bank don't show up in King's Landing FIRST to collect their paper, that is )

Somehow, I suspect Tyrion will probably be the very last Lannnister left in Westeros in season 6.

 

[Nobody]

None of that makes Varys a main character.

There is no story arc surrounding Varys that needs to be followed. You can go episode after episode without him. You can't take more than a one episode break from:

Jon Snow
Littlefinger
Cersei
Arya
Dany (fuck spelling her name lol)
Tyrion


Varys is always seen with one of those principle main characters. His arc doesn't work without one of them being present, and at most they're a scene away.. He supports those character arcs, he's not a driving force of it or his own arc.

You can argue Arya as a main character even more with the fact that her story is currently detached from the others which means it stands completely on it's own thereby making her a MAIN CHARACTER.

(Jon's story is detached from those listed above, and so is Dany's - until Tyrion arrives - which has to happen because they can't all be detached and then bring in the other stark boy)

You don't have to have impact on someone else's story to be a main character, at some point you have to bring them back into the main storyline, but she's currently on a quest to develop her character that doesn't require anyone else.

Also there's just no way Varys is a main character and Cersei is considered a "lesser extent"

Remove Cersei and you eliminate a huge antagonistic force. Remove Varys and...well he hasn't been in the past few episodes.

He's a great character, no doubt. But he's a facilitator for the story, a supporting character.

 

[Joe Money]

What makes Petyr's scheme,so great is that nobody isn't even looking at him..He's causing so much chaos,while climbing up the ladder.That's why I love the dialogue between him and Varys in season three,about chaos being a ladder,because this is exactly what Petyr was talking about..Nobody from the Seven Kingdoms wont suspect a lowborn causing this much chaos..

I'll give you Arya and to a lesser extent Cersei.....but I'm gonna continue to advocate for Varys. The thing with Arya's storyline, as much as I love it....is that it has had very little impact on the other main characters to this point. Cersei's has....I just dont like that bitch...lol. But Varys....for the first 4 seasons the actions of Varys and Littlefinger pretty much drove the show if you were really paying attention. He's possibly the only cat playing the game of thrones that's on Littlefinger's level....and he's not after the throne for himself which makes him a wild card. The "ladder" monologue was a deciding point in the show...and it's no coincidence that Littlefinger was saying it to Varys. And if you notice, Littlefinger's actions since have been more and more visible while Varys' have been more and more subtle. I dont think that's a coincidence either. I could be wrong in the end....we'll see....but I'm saying it now....dont sleep on Varys.

What did Varys say of Littlefinger? Something about "he'd let this country burn if he could be lord of the ashes" or something?

 

[silentking]

Also there's just no way Varys is a main character and Cersei is considered a "lesser extent"

Remove Cersei and you eliminate a huge antagonistic force. Remove Varys and...well he hasn't been in the past few episodes.

He's a great character, no doubt. But he's a facilitator for the story, a supporting character.

The comment that sparked this line of dialogue was that the show does a good job of diverting attention from the true main characters. I agree that Jon Snow, Tyrion, Dany, Arya and Cersei are main characters....but they would be in the traditional sense of any show. My point about Varys is that, like Littlefinger but in a very different way, he's one of the most important characters on the show in terms of actually impacting what happens. I feel your point about him being a facilitator though and I won't too much argue with that. I just think that when its all said and done, we'll look back and be like damn....the Spider was deep in the game.

 

[LSN]

word...as much as the stark family has suffered (eddard...robb...cat...sansa)...the lannisters have been dealt some serious blows too...jaime losing his hand...joffrey...tywin

Agreed.

We may be witnessing the dramatic 'fall' of House Lannister.

With Tywin dearly departed.... I wouldn't be surprised if either Cersei or Jamie will be killed by the season 5 finale . (Or BOTH of em )

Jamie may get finished off by the Martells, now that he has been captured by his enemies........ yet again. (Doran Martell might pick up where Robb Stark left off and finish the job this time around)

Meanwhile Cersei prolly gets 'put to sleep' by the Queen of Thornes, or she just gets double-crossed by the High Sparrow himself (if he decides to grab the Iron Throne for himself, if he ever finds out about all the 'royal incest' - which btw, I can see Lady Olenna 'dropping dimes' in his ear about it real soon )

Even if Cersei survives Lady Olenna's poisonous wrath and/or the potential 'Inquisition' from the Faith Militant... Littlefinger is still waiting to 'pull a fast one' on everybody., in the aftermath. (Assuming the 'leg breakers' of the Iron Bank don't show up in King's Landing FIRST to collect their paper, that is )

Somehow, I suspect Tyrion will probably be the very last Lannnister left in Westeros in season 6.

 

[silentking]

word...as much as the stark family has suffered (eddard...robb...cat...sansa)...the lannisters have been dealt some serious blows too...jaime losing his hand...joffrey...tywin

the thing about the ill fates suffered by the Starks vs the Lannisters is that, with the exception of Tyrion, you pretty much felt like the Lannisters had it coming. Seeing the Starks go down like that hurts on a whole other level.

 

[dbrizzz]

I think Cersei will be around until the end, I dont see anyone else being a bigger villain in Kings Landing, the story needs her to be causing a ruckus.

Don't forget what Maggie the Frog told her in the first episode of this season.

 

[BlkStrength]

damn he was blamming that shit huh

 

[Dirtylakerie]

the thing about the ill fates suffered by the Starks vs the Lannisters is that, with the exception of Tyrion, you pretty much felt like the Lannisters had it coming. Seeing the Starks go down like that hurts on a whole other level.

Yeah. But I hope by the end of the story the Starks. Will somehow reunite and take back Winterfell and Kingslanding.

 

[silentking]

[/B]

Yeah. But I hope by the end of the story the Starks. Will somehow reunite and take back Winterfell and Kingslanding.

Winterfell...yes. King's Landing? That's a stretch as they never had it. I kinda hope to see a Targaryen (legit or not) on the throne by the end.

 

[ladyscorpio]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGLkIyZSCR8&hd=1

​

 

[Nobody]

Winterfell...yes. King's Landing? That's a stretch as they never had it. I kinda hope to see a Targaryen (legit or not) on the throne by the end.

Im putting my money on Jon.

He's the most natural leader.

Dany has the Dragons. That's really her claim to fame. She's not a true leader IMO. She's idealistic, but without the dragons she doesn't come as far as she does.

Jon keeps turning away and letting others step up, and it keeps coming back to him. There's nothing magical that he can show people that makes them bow, he's just a pure leader. Dany depends too much on her counsel. Jon takes counsel, but he's more firm and quick to act when he knows what the right thing to do is.

 

[silentking]

Im putting my money on Jon.

He's the most natural leader.

Dany has the Dragons. That's really her claim to fame. She's not a true leader IMO. She's idealistic, but without the dragons she doesn't come as far as she does.

Jon keeps turning away and letting others step up, and it keeps coming back to him. There's nothing magical that he can show people that makes them bow, he's just a pure leader. Dany depends too much on her counsel. Jon takes counsel, but he's more firm and quick to act when he knows what the right thing to do is.

I didnt say Dany

 

[Nobody]

I didnt say Dany

I just mentioned her because the show is trying to make it seem like she's the one destined for the throne. It's too obvious.

Winter is coming. Dany is 2,000 miles away. Jon is going to be the one who'll lead people against the White Walkers if you ask me - or he'll be the one to come out of the battle looking like the biggest hero, He has Stark blood and Targereyn blood.