Avengers: Age of Ultron movie review
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Oh shit. I forgot about that line.
You right, that was his BEST line / speech.
The one I mentioned was his 2nd best.
nah when the Quicksilver was clowning him and he was like "No one would ever know."
loved it. really like when thor went wtf for a split sec when cap budged the hammer.
when the vision had it in his hand, everyone in the theatre went 'ooooh'
hawkeye when he said 'we're fighting robots and i have a bow and arrow. i know this doesn't make sense'
Yeah my theater was like "oh shit". Even my son (9 yrs old) was like "HOW?!?!"
You do know Klaw is one of Black panthers villains
Thats what makes all these shit so great for us comic geeks
Klaw has that thing on his arm in the movie we see ultron cut off said arm
Klaw has a wakanden brand on him marking him as a thief. Such a subtle phrase but it entails sooo much. This movie did an excellent job of setting up at least 3 movies before we come back for the infinity war.
You do know Klaw is one of Black panthers villains
Thats what makes all these shit so great for us comic geeks
Klaw has that thing on his arm in the movie we see ultron cut off said arm
Klaw has a wakanden brand on him marking him as a thief. Such a subtle phrase but it entails sooo much. This movie did an excellent job of setting up at least 3 movies before we come back for the infinity war.
Oh I know. I meant new to the movie universe
Yes.
I saw it today. I'm undecided on if I enjoyed the first one more. The opening scene was great. It's had more action. Ultron was a great villain. He had a personality and even made jokes. At times he showed bits of humanity instead of just being a out of control all humans must die robot at all times. Some things felt rushed. Wasn't Stark supposed to have retired after Irom Man 3? Killing off Quick Silver because he's in X-Men was lame. Maybe they can restore him with those nanotechs that restore tissue some how. More than likely they're not going to use him again since they didn't show him again in the end. I wish that the ending would have lead into Civil War. Stark & Capt are still on good terms for the most part by the end.
Same here. W/da more serious tone & lack of cheesy humor or "fun", I'm surprised that niggas like this one.
not only that but they didn't show wankanda to be the technologically advanced paradise it is in the comics..
its not like theres never been a peaceful, prosperous fictional african country shown on the big screen before
Great movie! Wifey loved it also.
OK SUPER GEEK ALERT HERE
soo keep scrolling if this does not suit you
I was just watching winter solder flipping between the tiges royals. I came in at the scene where they were shaking down sitwell and he was explaining zolofts algorithm. He stated how zoloft showed them how to take peoples data banking sat scores and voting history and determine who would be a threat to hydra.
He said Zoloft figured out how to take past action to predict your future.
For those who read the Civil war comics story line the reason that reed richards had joined with tony was because he had created a formula based on psycho-history from Issac Asimov foundation series.
In psycho-history you use the past actions of a group of people or civilization to predict the future of that group.
Once again proof of the carefully orchestrated chess moves of marvel leading up to 2 of the biggest events In marvel history.
soo keep scrolling if this does not suit you
I was just watching winter solder flipping between the tiges royals. I came in at the scene where they were shaking down sitwell and he was explaining zolofts algorithm. He stated how zoloft showed them how to take peoples data banking sat scores and voting history and determine who would be a threat to hydra.
He said Zoloft figured out how to take past action to predict your future.
For those who read the Civil war comics story line the reason that reed richards had joined with tony was because he had created a formula based on psycho-history from Issac Asimov foundation series.
In psycho-history you use the past actions of a group of people or civilization to predict the future of that group.
Once again proof of the carefully orchestrated chess moves of marvel leading up to 2 of the biggest events In marvel history.
not only that but they didn't show wankanda to be the technologically advanced paradise it is in the comics..
its not like theres never been a peaceful, prosperous fictional african country shown on the big screen before
this was how i actually envisioned the Black Panther movie opening
Just saw it today with the fam and like ya'll said Thor's expressions stole the movie.
The Vision was the shit!
Also I agree didn't care for Ultron's personality it was way to much like Tony when it should have been more like Jarvis.
The CG fight scene in the beginning was blah and did look recycled.
Still want to fuck Nat
The Vision was the shit!
Also I agree didn't care for Ultron's personality it was way to much like Tony when it should have been more like Jarvis.
The CG fight scene in the beginning was blah and did look recycled.
Still want to fuck Nat
They weren't fighting in Wakanda ya'll. They were fighting in South Africa.
We know
Just saw it today with the fam and like ya'll said Thor's expressions stole the movie.
The Vision was the shit!
Also I agree didn't care for Ultron's personality it was way to much like Tony when it should have been more like Jarvis.
The CG fight scene in the beginning was blah and did look recycled.
Still want to fuck Nat
The scene where the Ultron program infiltrated Jarvis, if you notice, Tony was the first human it focused on....so it made perfect sense to me that his personality mirrored Tony's.
Saw it today in IMAX/3D. The wife and I enjoyed it a lot. As said above, I didn't like Ultron's personality. Was hoping he'd be more robot like and not a homicidal maniac. I enjoyed him nevertheless. Was a whole lot of robots built in such a short time. I mean, that was a hellova lot of robots. The Thor Hammer bits were funny. Hated Quicksilver had to die. The Vision was the shit but was hoping to see him kick more ass. Mid credit scene was a let down to me but I get it. Was hoping Black Panther would have been made an appearance.
Damn,.no Wonderman or Hank Pym.Still. enjoyed it tho.
I saw on sat night , i really like this one!1..i think it was better than the first one to me!!..Damn good movie!!..
Yeah I wish they stuck to the book
I think that "city floating in the air" was a nod to the Graviton storyline in the comics.
I have to say it was a little bit inferior to the first film. If only because:
(A) individual action sequences went a step too far and should have been a little shorter in terms of number of events with more spaced out and slower individual elements so you could follow them better. (But not that slow-mo crap...)
(B) enemy and objective was clearer in the first film - "close the hole, get the staff." This film the ending threat was relatively broad and weaker, even though it allowed more if the team to participate in the ending moment.
(C) the Vision needed to solve the problem using his mass changing abilities and mind gem. The Avengers should have used their abilities to set him up for the win. Think something like Atlas shouldering the world (vision inserting himself into some magnificent cataclysm). I mean, isn't he the the strongest Avenger now in terms of overall abilities?
But there was a lot of stuff that was superior in this film to help offset the deficiencies. It really was fucking entertaining. Not as good as Winter Soldier, but pretty damn good!
I have to say it was a little bit inferior to the first film. If only because:
(A) individual action sequences went a step too far and should have been a little shorter in terms of number of events with more spaced out and slower individual elements so you could follow them better. (But not that slow-mo crap...)
(B) enemy and objective was clearer in the first film - "close the hole, get the staff." This film the ending threat was relatively broad and weaker, even though it allowed more if the team to participate in the ending moment.
(C) the Vision needed to solve the problem using his mass changing abilities and mind gem. The Avengers should have used their abilities to set him up for the win. Think something like Atlas shouldering the world (vision inserting himself into some magnificent cataclysm). I mean, isn't he the the strongest Avenger now in terms of overall abilities?
But there was a lot of stuff that was superior in this film to help offset the deficiencies. It really was fucking entertaining. Not as good as Winter Soldier, but pretty damn good!
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You was talking about the gauntlet. I thought you was talking about the gems in the movies; my bad.
SHIELD is dealing with Hydra...maybe he'll be back. Never saw his dead body.
They...aren't really. They are...what's the word? Able to get along? I'm sure that fight at the creation of Vision is going to get at them later on. Lingering resentment and all. They at heads, and we just got to see more of it. So now when Civil War breaks out we can go "Yeah, they was going at it" and it's not just some out of the blue thing. The end did lead to CW in my opinion...We don't know what Start is going to do and what missions Cap is going to take with the NA so what they do now will set up the division. Not to mention there is the whole set of 'SHIELD' who are against enhanced/Inhumans and the SHIELD who wants to protect them. Which might get cleared up Tuesday since there is only one SHIELD now...maybe.
Took me a minute
Saw it yesterday thoroughly enjoyed every minute of it. I liked this one just as much as the first (felt the same about JJ Abram's Star Trek movies). Enjoyed the last fight scene the most.
anyone else think of this.
when she "put him to sleep" the first time...
suns goin down big guy...
Plus her getting nekkid in Under The Skin made me lub her even more.
I can't wait til everything comes together,for Infinity War......
Enjoyed Age of Ultron alot...
Enjoyed Age of Ultron alot...
Good read
Why Ultron is a Secret Criticism of Marvel Movies
By J.F. Sargent May 03, 2015 42,439 views
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http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-secret-message-in-new-avengers-movie/
For those who haven't seen Avengers: Age Of Ultron (and by the way, hella spoilers in this article): Ultron is an artificial intelligence that exists inside ... well, it's not really explained, but he's like a global WiFi network that can hop from robot to robot. So the heroes have to make sure that not a single robot survives, or else he lives on. These are some of the very first words out of Ultron's "mouth" (Or speakers? Are his cheeks speakers?):
"You want to protect the world, but you don't want it to change."
Later, he says:
"I think you're confusing 'peace' with 'quiet.'"
And finally:
"Everyone creates the thing they fear ... parents create children."
Also, yes, his cheeks are totally speakers.
Marvel
"Beats By Ultron"
The point is, Ultron is the shakeup, the dangerous aspect of filmmaking that the industry needs to preserve itself (or what it thinks it needs). Ultron isn't just a villain here -- he's a metaphor for everything that the Marvel Movies are doing to the art of filmmaking. Ultron is Kevin Feige, Lord Commander of the Marvel Cinematic Universe. And in order to explain this, I'm going to talk to you about theater. Ha! I tricked you into being nerdy, sucker. I'll come around your house when the article finishes to give you a wedgie and a swirlie.
In the beginning of the Tony-Award-winning Red, a fictionalized version of expressionist painter Mark Rothko explains that the purpose of art is to destroy the cool stuff that existed before you. "We destroyed cubism," Rothko says, "We stomped it to death. Nobody can paint a cubist picture today ... the child must banish the father. Respect him, but kill him." At the end of the play, when Rothko is a tired old artist and complaining about how younger artists don't respect his work, his assistant throws those words back in his face. That is ultimately the point of the play: When you're creating a new style of art, you have to wreck what came before it.
Marvel
And these movies are pretty good at wrecking stuff.
Think about it. When Die Hard came out, with a hero who could actually bleed and made mistakes, all of the '80s indestructible heroes who wandered through hailstorms of bullets without blinking seemed ridiculous. It's suddenly impossible to relate to Commando, because Arnold approaches a firefight the way you approach a hungover Sunday morning supermarket trip. Or look at movies like Happy Gilmore and Ace Ventura: Pet Detective. Those were raunchy, edgy comedies when they came out, but they've been replaced by raunchier, edgier ones -- not because comedians have gotten edgier, but because the edge has moved. Adam Sandler's schtick has been ruined by crap like Jack & Jill, and as we just pointed out, jokes at the expense of transgender people have moved from "taboo and exciting" to "stupid and offensive."
And finally, show Indiana Jones or Aliens or any of your favorite action movies to a kid who's grown up watching The Avengers, and he or she is going to be bored. (Trust me, I've tried it. If you don't get them before a certain age, it's hopeless). Because children are stupid, and because the rules have changed, what's cool has changed, what's exciting has changed. There are different cues for them to pick up on. And that is exactly what Ultron represents.
Let's start on a superficial level. Like I said at the beginning, Ultron has spread his consciousness across every single robot in his army, which means he can only "die" whenever every single soldier in his army is destroyed. He even shouts "what doesn't kill me makes me stronger" while building a bigger, tougher version of himself, which then shreds the older, weaker, shittier Ultron into pipe cleaner. Just to make sure you got his point. Then, in the climactic battle on a flying city (these movies have gotten crazy weird, man), the characters say over and over that every single Ultron robot has to be destroyed, or else he will live on. It's a pretty cool way to raise the fight's stakes, and it's exactly how the Marvel Cinematic Universe works.
Marvel
The robots are Marvel movies, and the Avengers are the audience.
Ultron is the MCU, and each movie is one of his robots. Remember The Incredible Hulk? Ha! Of course you don't, because everyone who isn't me hated that movie. And if it had been a standalone story, disconnected from any cinematic universe, we would've had to have a reboot (like with Spider-Man or the Fantastic Four) before we got any more Hulk movies. But because it's part of the MCU, that character got to piggyback on the success of Iron Man, Captain America, and Thor, and show up in The Avengers with no required backstory -- just vague hints that he's "the big guy." At this point, The Avengers was basically the coolest guy in the room, grinning and winking and saying "Remember Hulk? He's cool in movies, right?" And despite the fact that no cool Hulk movies exist in this Earth, we were all "Yeah, man! I love that Hulk guy! His movies are just grand!" because we wanted The Avengers to like us.
See, the MCU is stronger than any of its parts. Any one franchise can fail to catch on but still contribute to the success of the whole. Agents of SHIELD is an embarrassment, but characters from that show still got to show up in a major theatrical release this summer because they're part of the MCU. Thor: The Dark World and Iron Man 2 are both preettttty bad, but they both got big sequels because they're contributing to the success of The Avengers.
On top of that, the core Avengers -- Iron Man, Thor, Captain America -- all represent an older style of filmmaking. Each of those characters came from stories that pretty much stood alone. None of them picked up an old thread, or failed to resolve their core arcs because they needed to be part of something bigger. They're all fairly well self-contained, provided you skip the post-credits stingers. Nowadays, each story is a chapter in something far bigger: the Marvel story, which transcends petty things like "plot" and "arcs" and "wait, what the fuck is going on?"
Marvel
"No seriously, why are you in this movie?"
This conflict between different narrative philosophies is Age Of Ultron's story, since Ultron wants to kill all humans and replace them with robots. He says there's an extinction-level event coming (which is itself foreshadowing the next Avengers movie), and that replacing humans with living metal is the only way to save life on the planet. This is a lot like how Mark Rothko wanted to destroy cubism and, I'm arguing right goddamn now, how the MCU wants to destroy the old style of filmmaking. It basically hocks a loogie right in the face of most of the rules about what makes a "good movie."
Most popcorn movies like this need a protagonist whom you identify with and who guides you through the story, but this movie has six heroes, none of whom have clearly defined arcs, and none of whom have needs or wants that are established or resolved. Another rule of filmmaking is to introduce every element that the story needs in the first 20 minutes. But here we have a seventh protagonist introduced in the last half hour, and there's no explanation as to why he wants or needs anything, or even why he's fucking purple. And then Purple-McWeirdo is the one who gets to kill Ultron. We get a scene with a magic swimming pool in a cave that has no explanation at all, and which probably breaks, like, a rule or two. Stellan Skaarsgard appears, and he's like, "Hey, what's up. I'm Stellan Skaarsgard." And that just can't be right. Roughly half the movie is more about the next movie in the franchise. It is, in short, everything movie snobs hate about modern filmmaking, and it's pretty goddamn aggressive about it.
Of course, there's one big difference here: Ultron loses (told you there'd be spoilers). Marvel hasn't been the underdog in this race in a long time, not since The Avengers did to the box office what ... well, what Mark Rothko did to Cubism.
Marvel
And what Ultron does to everything he encounters.
My point is that the success of "cinematic universes" means the at-least-temporary extinction of one-off films. They can't coexist, because one is so much stronger than the other, and also voiced by James Spader and made out of vibranium. The point is that the future of cinema could go one of two ways: Either every movie will be a cinematic universe, and TV shows will interweave their plots with theatrical/digital releases, or ... not. And that divide is exactly what Avengers: Age Of Ultron is secretly about.
Um. It's also about superheroes punching robots. But I mean, whatever, right?
JF Sargent is an editor and columnist for Cracked and he could totally take Hawkeye in a fight. Follow him on Twitbook and Facer.
Why Ultron is a Secret Criticism of Marvel Movies
By J.F. Sargent May 03, 2015 42,439 views
FacebookTwitterAdd to Favorites
http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-secret-message-in-new-avengers-movie/
For those who haven't seen Avengers: Age Of Ultron (and by the way, hella spoilers in this article): Ultron is an artificial intelligence that exists inside ... well, it's not really explained, but he's like a global WiFi network that can hop from robot to robot. So the heroes have to make sure that not a single robot survives, or else he lives on. These are some of the very first words out of Ultron's "mouth" (Or speakers? Are his cheeks speakers?):
"You want to protect the world, but you don't want it to change."
Later, he says:
"I think you're confusing 'peace' with 'quiet.'"
And finally:
"Everyone creates the thing they fear ... parents create children."
Also, yes, his cheeks are totally speakers.
Marvel
"Beats By Ultron"
The point is, Ultron is the shakeup, the dangerous aspect of filmmaking that the industry needs to preserve itself (or what it thinks it needs). Ultron isn't just a villain here -- he's a metaphor for everything that the Marvel Movies are doing to the art of filmmaking. Ultron is Kevin Feige, Lord Commander of the Marvel Cinematic Universe. And in order to explain this, I'm going to talk to you about theater. Ha! I tricked you into being nerdy, sucker. I'll come around your house when the article finishes to give you a wedgie and a swirlie.
In the beginning of the Tony-Award-winning Red, a fictionalized version of expressionist painter Mark Rothko explains that the purpose of art is to destroy the cool stuff that existed before you. "We destroyed cubism," Rothko says, "We stomped it to death. Nobody can paint a cubist picture today ... the child must banish the father. Respect him, but kill him." At the end of the play, when Rothko is a tired old artist and complaining about how younger artists don't respect his work, his assistant throws those words back in his face. That is ultimately the point of the play: When you're creating a new style of art, you have to wreck what came before it.
Marvel
And these movies are pretty good at wrecking stuff.
Think about it. When Die Hard came out, with a hero who could actually bleed and made mistakes, all of the '80s indestructible heroes who wandered through hailstorms of bullets without blinking seemed ridiculous. It's suddenly impossible to relate to Commando, because Arnold approaches a firefight the way you approach a hungover Sunday morning supermarket trip. Or look at movies like Happy Gilmore and Ace Ventura: Pet Detective. Those were raunchy, edgy comedies when they came out, but they've been replaced by raunchier, edgier ones -- not because comedians have gotten edgier, but because the edge has moved. Adam Sandler's schtick has been ruined by crap like Jack & Jill, and as we just pointed out, jokes at the expense of transgender people have moved from "taboo and exciting" to "stupid and offensive."
And finally, show Indiana Jones or Aliens or any of your favorite action movies to a kid who's grown up watching The Avengers, and he or she is going to be bored. (Trust me, I've tried it. If you don't get them before a certain age, it's hopeless). Because children are stupid, and because the rules have changed, what's cool has changed, what's exciting has changed. There are different cues for them to pick up on. And that is exactly what Ultron represents.
Let's start on a superficial level. Like I said at the beginning, Ultron has spread his consciousness across every single robot in his army, which means he can only "die" whenever every single soldier in his army is destroyed. He even shouts "what doesn't kill me makes me stronger" while building a bigger, tougher version of himself, which then shreds the older, weaker, shittier Ultron into pipe cleaner. Just to make sure you got his point. Then, in the climactic battle on a flying city (these movies have gotten crazy weird, man), the characters say over and over that every single Ultron robot has to be destroyed, or else he will live on. It's a pretty cool way to raise the fight's stakes, and it's exactly how the Marvel Cinematic Universe works.
Marvel
The robots are Marvel movies, and the Avengers are the audience.
Ultron is the MCU, and each movie is one of his robots. Remember The Incredible Hulk? Ha! Of course you don't, because everyone who isn't me hated that movie. And if it had been a standalone story, disconnected from any cinematic universe, we would've had to have a reboot (like with Spider-Man or the Fantastic Four) before we got any more Hulk movies. But because it's part of the MCU, that character got to piggyback on the success of Iron Man, Captain America, and Thor, and show up in The Avengers with no required backstory -- just vague hints that he's "the big guy." At this point, The Avengers was basically the coolest guy in the room, grinning and winking and saying "Remember Hulk? He's cool in movies, right?" And despite the fact that no cool Hulk movies exist in this Earth, we were all "Yeah, man! I love that Hulk guy! His movies are just grand!" because we wanted The Avengers to like us.
See, the MCU is stronger than any of its parts. Any one franchise can fail to catch on but still contribute to the success of the whole. Agents of SHIELD is an embarrassment, but characters from that show still got to show up in a major theatrical release this summer because they're part of the MCU. Thor: The Dark World and Iron Man 2 are both preettttty bad, but they both got big sequels because they're contributing to the success of The Avengers.
On top of that, the core Avengers -- Iron Man, Thor, Captain America -- all represent an older style of filmmaking. Each of those characters came from stories that pretty much stood alone. None of them picked up an old thread, or failed to resolve their core arcs because they needed to be part of something bigger. They're all fairly well self-contained, provided you skip the post-credits stingers. Nowadays, each story is a chapter in something far bigger: the Marvel story, which transcends petty things like "plot" and "arcs" and "wait, what the fuck is going on?"
Marvel
"No seriously, why are you in this movie?"
This conflict between different narrative philosophies is Age Of Ultron's story, since Ultron wants to kill all humans and replace them with robots. He says there's an extinction-level event coming (which is itself foreshadowing the next Avengers movie), and that replacing humans with living metal is the only way to save life on the planet. This is a lot like how Mark Rothko wanted to destroy cubism and, I'm arguing right goddamn now, how the MCU wants to destroy the old style of filmmaking. It basically hocks a loogie right in the face of most of the rules about what makes a "good movie."
Most popcorn movies like this need a protagonist whom you identify with and who guides you through the story, but this movie has six heroes, none of whom have clearly defined arcs, and none of whom have needs or wants that are established or resolved. Another rule of filmmaking is to introduce every element that the story needs in the first 20 minutes. But here we have a seventh protagonist introduced in the last half hour, and there's no explanation as to why he wants or needs anything, or even why he's fucking purple. And then Purple-McWeirdo is the one who gets to kill Ultron. We get a scene with a magic swimming pool in a cave that has no explanation at all, and which probably breaks, like, a rule or two. Stellan Skaarsgard appears, and he's like, "Hey, what's up. I'm Stellan Skaarsgard." And that just can't be right. Roughly half the movie is more about the next movie in the franchise. It is, in short, everything movie snobs hate about modern filmmaking, and it's pretty goddamn aggressive about it.
Of course, there's one big difference here: Ultron loses (told you there'd be spoilers). Marvel hasn't been the underdog in this race in a long time, not since The Avengers did to the box office what ... well, what Mark Rothko did to Cubism.
Marvel
And what Ultron does to everything he encounters.
My point is that the success of "cinematic universes" means the at-least-temporary extinction of one-off films. They can't coexist, because one is so much stronger than the other, and also voiced by James Spader and made out of vibranium. The point is that the future of cinema could go one of two ways: Either every movie will be a cinematic universe, and TV shows will interweave their plots with theatrical/digital releases, or ... not. And that divide is exactly what Avengers: Age Of Ultron is secretly about.
Um. It's also about superheroes punching robots. But I mean, whatever, right?
JF Sargent is an editor and columnist for Cracked and he could totally take Hawkeye in a fight. Follow him on Twitbook and Facer.
^^^^^Actually I was going to start a thread about the MCU and DCU and what ya'll think and feel about it so far so if you don't mind I'll quote this in that thread thread for a clean slate to debate and talk about...
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