Well-Traveled, Intelligent Black Man, 34, Seeks ‘Sista’ OK With Him Making Less Money

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Well-Traveled, Intelligent Black Man, 34, Seeks ‘Sista’ OK With Him Making Less Money

He’s got a degree. Check. A job. Check. Money. Well, that’s where Terrell Jermaine Starr’s dating story stops adding up.



When I tell my friends that the last time I had a girlfriend was during my freshman year in college in 1998, they respond with disbelief.

For them it’s bemusing to fathom that a man who is well-traveled, gainfully employed, bilingual, degreed, childless, not living in his mother’s basement and debt-free could go 16 years without being in a relationship and years at a time without having sex. What people don’t understand is that my income isn’t as high as many would expect, and it makes me feel insecure about how women may view my current professional station in life.

I only began working full time in my 30s; I spent all of my 20s traveling around Eastern Europe—mainly through Peace Corps, Fulbright and language study-abroad programs—and earning degrees. I consider myself a very late bloomer who has just recently realized I can make a living keystroking breaking-news stories and Brooklyn Renaissance-ing my way into a literary career. As intellectually fruitful as my 20s were, my worldly and academic sojourns did little for my bank account. All my education and travel were fully paid with scholarships, so I guess that means something.

But I wasn’t climbing any corporate ladders and adding zeros to my salary year after year during my 20s, like most women my age were doing, so I find myself financially incompatible. I can’t say that I’ve dated dozens of women who’ve told me as much, but my female friends have given me the impression that someone like me doesn’t bleep on their “He is dating, and perhaps marrying, material” radar.

Most of them are making six-figure salaries, or near that amount, and insist that their partners make at least as much. I’m a senior editor at a website—not an entry-level money earner, but I’m not making six figures, either, so I’m pretty much out of their league with regard to dating. Of course, I’m acutely aware of the fact that many black women have “dated and married down” economically, but I surmise they’ve grown weary of doing so. Complaints about men taking advantage of their financial status pervade most conversations I hear over why many women prefer to only date men who are their economic equals. For the record, I’d have no issue dating women who earn more than I do, and I’m not exclusively pursuing women with deep pockets, so don’t tweet me your foolishness.

When I took to Twitter several days ago to ask my female followers if they would date a man who earns less money than they do, all replied, “Yes.” In fact, many of them balked at my claims that I have a hard time dating because of my income. I’ve also been told that my background in Russian affairs and European wanderlust lead many black women to assume that I only date white women. To the contrary, I’m only interested in sistas. (At the egging on of my former boss, I wrote a funny piece about my type of woman called “Sophistiratchet” a few years ago that I encourage you to read, if you have a sense of humor.)

Most women are also shocked that I’ve gone as long as five years without sex. While I’m as sexual a being as any man, women aren’t disposable to me. I’ve never been able to engage in sexual relationships without establishing some emotional intimacy. Yes, such men do exist.

Some of you will quickly dismiss me and conclude that I’m penning this piece as a cheap attempt to evoke sympathy from female readers. That’s not the case. I’m writing about this because women have repeatedly asked why I, a man who wants to date and eventually marry, find it challenging to do so. There is, indeed, a swath of men in the dating pool who feel they are boxed into a space in which their incomes have yet to catch up with their professional statuses, thus making them less appealing.

For every woman who says she wouldn’t mind her partner making less money than she, there are just as many who do mind. Men like me who are professional late bloomers can conceivably find such dating pools nearly impossible to access when women at this age are beginning to think long term. And I repeat: I don’t have an issue with my financial status; it is something, however, that I find many women care about, and it makes me not even try to put myself out there at all because I feel I won’t measure up in their Excel dating-requirements spreadsheet.

You don’t hear us discussing it often because we’d have to admit to our fears of not feeling valued because we aren’t where we are “supposed to be in life.” Think about it: Thirty-four-year-old men aren’t supposed to be five years removed from an internship and expect to find a woman who will view them as potential relationship material. Most women my age have children and may see a man who makes less than they do as another mouth to feed. I’ve been told this, in so many words. Remember that society views me as “old” and “late in the game,” too. Being a man doesn’t make that any less challenging.
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While I’m more than happy with myself, most women could care less that I speak several weird languages they’ll never understand, am a good person, have a promising writing career and can carry on a stimulating conversation, if they don’t find my income attractive. I’m not begrudging women who demand that their partners make as much as or more than they do. Most reasons I’ve heard are perfectly reasonable; money is very important. But this notion that I should have no issues dating is dismissive of all the points I’ve made.

To be clear, I’m not suggesting that all high-income women fit into the dilemma I’ve described. I am saying that my background—sans income comparable to or more than that of my potential partner—doesn’t make me the automatic catch my female followers on Twitter claim that I am.

http://www.theroot.com/articles/cul...ing_because_he_doesn_t_make_enough_money.html
 
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All the women who said they don't mind a man making less than them are lying. A lot of sisters will not date or marry a low-wage earner. On the internet they'll lie and say "yes" to make themselves seem less shallow.
 
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All the women who said they don't mind a man making less than them are lying. A lot of sisters will not date or marry a low-wage earner. On the internet they'll lie and say "yes" to make themselves seem less shallow.

Just less than them or low-wage? What if she earns $100,000 a year and he earns $75,000?
 
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"I’ve also been told that my background in Russian affairs and European wanderlust lead many black women to assume that I only date white women."

Exactly

Rotflmao

This guy is full of shit

I doubt he even dates "sistas"

This is just an articulate way of shitting on bw

Please go be with a ww or any other woman of another race cus apparently none of them have any flaws of any sort
 
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All the women who said they don't mind a man making less than them are lying. A lot of sisters will not date or marry a low-wage earner. On the internet they'll lie and say "yes" to make themselves seem less shallow.

But yet in other threads you bw haters are always accusing bw of having low standards and dating bum dudes

Now all of a sudden in THIS thread our standards are too high

:lol:

You coons can't even stick to one story :confused::lol::smh:

Gtfoh

You're definitely one of bgol's top bw bashers/biggest fake militants
 
Re: Well-Traveled, Intelligent Black Man, 34, Seeks ‘Sista’ OK With Him Making Less M

A lot of sisters will not date or marry a low-wage earner.

Shit, even having a non low wage job doesn't make you safe.

I've heard stories of dudes with blue collar jobs making like $70,000 being rejected by women making half that because the man's job isn't corporate like hers.
 
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Dude is gay. Going almost 5 years with out sex!!! Clearly, he's fighting his coming out of the closet demons.
 
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Shit, even having a non low wage job doesn't make you safe.

I've heard stories of dudes with blue collar jobs making like $70,000 being rejected by women making half that because the man's job isn't corporate like hers.

:eek: You've heard personal stories like this?
 
Re: Well-Traveled, Intelligent Black Man, 34, Seeks ‘Sista’ OK With Him Making Less M

Where are all these black women making six figure salaries?:dunno:
 
Re: Well-Traveled, Intelligent Black Man, 34, Seeks ‘Sista’ OK With Him Making Less M

:eek: You've heard personal stories like this?

Nah, no personal stories. Someone called into tariq's show and their situation was what I typed above.

I also read about a similar situation somewhere else. Might have been on here where I read it actually.
 
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:eek: You've heard personal stories like this?

Dude I work IN construction and in that regard I've learned 2 things on the subject...

1. Like any other job with a distinct 'look' you're going to have women who will fuck with you cause of that. Women who fuck with dudes in construction are like women who fuck with firemen, cops, and soldiers- pay don't have anything to do with it.:lol:

2. Women, (hell most people, but we'll stick with women,black women, for the sake of the post.) don't know fuck all about money, wealth, or income looks like unless it's tied to a 'dummy proof' profession that grants the eye the APPEARANCE of wealth. I live next to and are friends with doctors, lawyers, and the like, know who brings home the most bacon? A plumbing foremen on one of my jobs, all side work. There's money in dirt but women would never know that cause 'you're dirty'.:lol:

I remember I was 'dating' this office worker broad who use to stunt on me about her prestigious work until she found out I clear what she make in a year in four months! The look on her face 'but...you're dirty' PRICELESS! :D



* two cents *
 
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Shit, even having a non low wage job doesn't make you safe.

I've heard stories of dudes with blue collar jobs making like $70,000 being rejected by women making half that because the man's job isn't corporate like hers.

I was at a dinner party a few months ago and this very scenario came up. It;s not about money. It's about status. Every bitch with a sociology degree making 30k can't seem to find a man "on her level."
 
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:lol:

game recognized
 
Re: Well-Traveled, Intelligent Black Man, 34, Seeks ‘Sista’ OK With Him Making Less M

Can't complain about the women you get until you decide to make better choices in women. But there could be any number of things going on with this guy. To much not answered.

But this is the type of thing used to just attack women AGAIN. Our people are just so fucked in so many ways.
 
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Shit, even having a non low wage job doesn't make you safe.

I've heard stories of dudes with blue collar jobs making like $70,000 being rejected by women making half that because the man's job isn't corporate like hers.

I've had similar issues with corporate women. Their jobs give them access to men that might spend $70,000 on a vacation. They also tend to think that corporate conduct and dress codes extend beyond the office.
 
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:lol::lol::lol::lol:

Talkin bout "I've heard stories" lmaooooo
Fucking clowns man. Cats get their life experience from internet pimps and their simp followers.


The reality is a lot different. And the numbers support that reality. There are simply more sisters with their shit together than men. And despite having delusions of grandeur of what they want or deserve in a mate, many date down (financially) and are open to entertaining men not their professional peer.
 
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Fucking clowns man. Cats get their life experience from internet pimps and their simp followers.

this dickhead is still on my dick.

and whoever that is you quoted that's on my ignore list, tell them to eat a dick. do that favor for me you old fuck.

cockblower stay trying to get my attention. :smh:
 
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this dickhead is still on my dick.

and whoever that is you quoted that's on my ignore list, tell them to eat a dick. do that favor for me you old fuck.

cockblower stay trying to get my attention. :smh:
They are on your ignore list but you still felt as though i was addressing your role model seeking, guidance starved ho ass huh? :smh:

What gave it away, the part about worshiping internet pimps or getting life experience tips from his fellow simp listeners??

You ole third hand radio gossip spreading bitchmade faggit. Go listen to your Lil B mixtape and jerk off in the dark Nathan.


Ole "i heard it on a podcast so it must be true" half retarded fuckstick. Get out the house and interact with people you bitch you.
 
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They are on your ignore list but you still felt as though i was addressing your role model seeking, guidance starved ho ass huh? :smh:

What gave it away, the part about worshiping internet pimps or getting life experience tips from his fellow simp listeners??

You ole third hand radio gossip spreading bitchmade faggit. Go listen to your Lil B mixtape and jerk off in the dark Nathan.


Ole "i heard it on a podcast so it must be true" half retarded fuckstick. Get out the house and interact with people you bitch you.

You're such a passive aggressive faggot. Running around quoting me, trying to get me to respond.

You'll be quoting me again tomorrow, trying to 'play nice', like the fuckin' faggot you are.

Your ass really has some type of homosexual fascination with me. Your clown ass can't go a week without quoting me.

Now prove me wrong.
 
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Where are all these black women making six figure salaries?:dunno:

Only 10% of black HOUSEHOLDS earn $100,000 or above. So, it's a small minority of black women and men earning in the six figures. However, what I have noticed is that these "successful, professional" sistas seem to have an organized media network of sorts, and many media outlets pander to them. Notice how their relationship woes and what not seem to take precedent over all other issues affecting black people, including black women who are outside of their educational, economic, and class circles.

Dude I work IN construction and in that regard I've learned 2 things on the subject...

1. Like any other job with a distinct 'look' you're going to have women who will fuck with you cause of that. Women who fuck with dudes in construction are like women who fuck with firemen, cops, and soldiers- pay don't have anything to do with it.:lol:

2. Women, (hell most people, but we'll stick with women,black women, for the sake of the post.) don't know fuck all about money, wealth, or income looks like unless it's tied to a 'dummy proof' profession that grants the eye the APPEARANCE of wealth. I live next to and are friends with doctors, lawyers, and the like, know who brings home the most bacon? A plumbing foremen on one of my jobs, all side work. There's money in dirt but women would never know that cause 'you're dirty'.:lol:

I remember I was 'dating' this office worker broad who use to stunt on me about her prestigious work until she found out I clear what she make in a year in four months! The look on her face 'but...you're dirty' PRICELESS! :D



* two cents *

That's the thing. These types of women are caught up in how shit LOOKS than how shit really is. Bougie shit, basically.
 
Re: Well-Traveled, Intelligent Black Man, 34, Seeks ‘Sista’ OK With Him Making Less M

You're such a passive aggressive faggot. Running around quoting me, trying to get me to respond.

You'll be quoting me again tomorrow, trying to 'play nice', like the fuckin' faggot you are.

Your ass really has some type of homosexual fascination with me. Your clown ass can't go a week without quoting me.

Now prove me wrong.
You silly troll bitch. Its a message board you dumb whore. You think i really keep up with who i quote and dont quote? The fact that you keep a running mental tab of that lame shit tells me you're an even bigger loser than i already thought. Not surprising from a multiple screen name having, self hating piece of shit such as yourself.

Score keeping on this dumbass shit. Get a life you clown ass nigga. Your username isnt what stands out to me. Its the litany of moronic shit you say Nathan. You just happen to be one of the handful of rampant retards round here that gets called out on his bullshit often.

Go hit the reset button and re-invent yourself again you sensitive weirdo bitch. I liked you better as a black woman hating whiteboy. Troll.
 
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Multiple screen names, troll, nathan...I love the fact that yall nothing legitimate to attack me with. :lol: Your bitchass thought we were cool and then I showed you what it really was.

Like I said, you can't go a week without quoting.

Prove me wrong, faggot.
 
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That's the thing. These types of women are caught up in how shit LOOKS than how shit really is. Bougie shit, basically.

Oh I already know fam. I've been involved with several chics whose car note cost more than there rent. The irony is that I HAVE a degree in a STEM field (I.E. A degree that actually works for me.) and working on my second. So on paper I'm smarter than most of those type of broads too.:lol:

But the saddest thing about 'Bougie' broads is that they are no better and in a lot of cases worse than the 'basic bitches' they stunt/clown on cause they are wrapped up in the delusion of of their own bullshit. In reality the only difference is the 'degree' on the wall next to the sorority plack they still rep, the thread count on their sheets, the organic shit in their refrigerator, and the car note, hell they even get ran through by the same guys.:lol:



* two cents *
 
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His spit game and his dick game must be wack if he can't get a woman to overlook all that.

These upper level women has fallen for less "qualified" men on a regular basis.
 
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So dude thinks he is a prize catch and is entitled to pussy? If you are boring and have no personality none of that shit matters
 
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All the women who said they don't mind a man making less than them are lying. A lot of sisters will not date or marry a low-wage earner. On the internet they'll lie and say "yes" to make themselves seem less shallow.
In the real world if this was true there would be a lot more single people out there
 
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His only issue is a lack of confidence. There are cats out here with way less than him drowning in ass, so he shouldn't have any problems.
 
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So dude thinks he is a prize catch and is entitled to pussy? If you are boring and have no personality none of that shit matters

cosign. But not just him other people as well think theyre entitled to stuff even women when they dont. I don think this is an isolated issue.
 
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Just less than them or low-wage? What if she earns $100,000 a year and he earns $75,000?

I'm around women that make 100k. Shit my sister is a nurse practitioner and pulls in over 100k her, her friends and pretty much all the women I've been around say the same thing "They don't fuck with dudes making less than them". I shake my head st them all the time. Sisters with degrees and careers are alone for a reason.

Lonestar is broke and lives with her fam so a dude making minimum wage is just enough for her.
 
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Well I think it's true because I've heard stories that this one brotha who has a degree, no kids and makes 475000 per year was in the corporate cafeteria and this sista that makes 27500 as an executive administrative assistant to the lead mail room supervisor asked if anyone had some mustard because she forgot to put some on her ham sammich.

So this dude out the goodness of his heart offered to share his French's yellow mustard with this ungrateful trollop and she rolled her eyes and sucked her teefes because he didn't have Grey Poupon.

She said he ate like he was ghetto and wasn't on her level.

Ain't that a diaper fulla shit ?
 
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I'm around women that make 100k. Shit my sister is a nurse practitioner and pulls in over 100k her, her friends and pretty much all the women I've been around say the same thing "They don't fuck with dudes making less than them". I shake my head st them all the time. Sisters with degrees and careers are alone for a reason.

Lonestar is broke and lives with her fam so a dude making minimum wage is just enough for her.


Speaking from vast experience, they're only alone as it relates to longer term relationships - as if walking them through their life and bullshit is the prize.:lol:

Them chicks are 'sneaking dick' from the cute guy they saw working the door at the poetry slam and their personal trainer (oh he does early morning sessions at your place...ok bitch.:rolleyes:) and are the forever the HOPEFUL jump off of the cat who checks off everything on their 'professional' check list except the 'he gives a fuck about me' portion.:lol:

Them chicks ain't slick, they don't want a man as much as they want a man they CAN STUNT ON THEIR FRIENDS. Like a trophy.

Them chicks are easy to run through if you 'look' the part- for her girlfriends sake- and can stomach the pretentious bullshit...easier than the basic bitches they clown in fact.

These chicks getting fucked, dated, and dumped by the same dudes. They have to keep airs of having 'Standards' for their and their girlfriends ego.



* two cents *
 
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