Da system needs to be destroyed.
Police just executed an unarmed 17 yr old brotha (shot 10 times)
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Well it clearly don't say it's him, but I did a little extra...
I’m just out here working hard every single day, just trying to be the best poster I can be....
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sammyjax Maybe you do not understand buy black and organize. Forget what you did for them, what are you willing to do for yourself?? That is what counts. Are we to keep building on white power?
If someone kicks your ass and punches you in the head. Yet you keep following them. Then they have no choice but to think you like what they are doing to you. This is a time of sacrifice. We should spend our money with our own and our lives for our own. We stood by and supported whites while they worked with Botha to rape, rob, and kill of the blacks of South Africa. We stood by while America and N.A.T.O committed genocide on blacks in Libya. Those of us who have not sold our souls to these devils are the ones that seek real power and freedom. Not a chance to be a successful devil and go along with this bullshit we see.
During slavery we may have worked hard with our hands. But they had our ancestors under spells and curses. While we worked hard one way they worked hard another way. By raping black women and little girls. It is the same today. While most blacks are under the hope of being successful in this white man's world. Contractors like blackwater and dyncorp are raping and killing at will and being rewarded for it.
Some of our own people may began to feel that if you cannot beat them, join them. And will be just like the traitors of our people during slavery. But this time some of us cannot see how we are empowering the people that are going to kill us.
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If someone kicks your ass and punches you in the head. Yet you keep following them. Then they have no choice but to think you like what they are doing to you. This is a time of sacrifice. We should spend our money with our own and our lives for our own. We stood by and supported whites while they worked with Botha to rape, rob, and kill of the blacks of South Africa. We stood by while America and N.A.T.O committed genocide on blacks in Libya. Those of us who have not sold our souls to these devils are the ones that seek real power and freedom. Not a chance to be a successful devil and go along with this bullshit we see.
During slavery we may have worked hard with our hands. But they had our ancestors under spells and curses. While we worked hard one way they worked hard another way. By raping black women and little girls. It is the same today. While most blacks are under the hope of being successful in this white man's world. Contractors like blackwater and dyncorp are raping and killing at will and being rewarded for it.
Some of our own people may began to feel that if you cannot beat them, join them. And will be just like the traitors of our people during slavery. But this time some of us cannot see how we are empowering the people that are going to kill us.
http://oneblacknation.webs.com/
http://blacknation.vpweb.com/default.html
America is becoming more and more like Jonestown every day. When it is time to end these mind control experiments they will kill us all.
http://oneblacknation.webs.com/
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http://oneblacknation.webs.com/
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In STL, it's just the unincorporated three million bitch ass municipalities in the county with 28 Mark Furmen's per 4 square blocks that fucks you up. Seriously.
Don't get captured.
They will lose you in the system. FUCK that.
03-17-2008, 01:24 PM
http://www.bgol.us/board/showpost.php?p=3730144&postcount=45
A couple cops were just arrested in south Florida
One was dui and had a suspended license and dope in his car.
The others were stealing money from the union
A few weeks ago one had child porn.
Criminals chasing criminals
One was dui and had a suspended license and dope in his car.
The others were stealing money from the union
A few weeks ago one had child porn.
Criminals chasing criminals
questionable in a lot of cases.
True
i got your pernt though
My grandfather killed japs and built this country
Really?!?!!? Ya don't say 
Ferguson Police Chief Lied About Why He Released Alleged Michael Brown Robbery Tape: Report
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/5773420
Ferguson Police Chief Thomas Jackson lied when he said he had received "many" specific requests for the videotape that allegedly shows Michael Brown robbing a convenience store,*according to a new report.
"All I did -- what I did was -- was release the videotape to you, because I had to," Jackson told reporters on Aug. 15 when asked why he released the robbery footage. "I’d been sitting on it, but I -- too many people put in a [Freedom of Information Act] request for that thing, and I had to release that tape to you."
Writing for*The Blot, Matthew Keys reports that the police department did not receive any specific requests for the videotape.
"A review of open records requests sent to the Ferguson Police Department found that no news organization, reporter or individual specifically sought the release of the surveillance tape before police distributed it on Aug. 15," Keys writes.
There was one reporter, Joel Currier with the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, who asked for any and all evidence "leading up to" Brown’s death in a FOIA request. The request could have possibly included the tape, since the incident report on the robbery identifies Brown as a suspect in the crime.
Currier told The Huffington Post's Matt Sledge in a*tweet*that "I can't recall if I knew of robbery at the time of request. I made it broad in hopes of getting as much material as possible."
In*another tweet, he added, "I think I may have been hearing rumors of a robbery but nothing confirmed."
Journalist Andrew Perez also said that he has tried to get the documents to show who sent FOIA requests for the recording.
"I requested all requests for the videotape too, and they produced a ton of docs but no requests for the tape,"*Perez tweeted.
Perez also tweeted that, when asked, Ferguson Police spokesperson Tim Zoll couldn't think of any specific requests for the tape.
Requests for comment were not immediately returned by Chief Jackson or the Ferguson Police Department.
Authorities have still not released the incident report for Brown's killing. The St. Louis County Police Department is in charge of deciding when that report will be released.
I’m just out here working hard every single day, just trying to be the best poster I can be....
Ferguson Police Chief Lied About Why He Released Alleged Michael Brown Robbery Tape: Report
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/5773420
Ferguson Police Chief Thomas Jackson lied when he said he had received "many" specific requests for the videotape that allegedly shows Michael Brown robbing a convenience store,*according to a new report.
"All I did -- what I did was -- was release the videotape to you, because I had to," Jackson told reporters on Aug. 15 when asked why he released the robbery footage. "I’d been sitting on it, but I -- too many people put in a [Freedom of Information Act] request for that thing, and I had to release that tape to you."
Writing for*The Blot, Matthew Keys reports that the police department did not receive any specific requests for the videotape.
"A review of open records requests sent to the Ferguson Police Department found that no news organization, reporter or individual specifically sought the release of the surveillance tape before police distributed it on Aug. 15," Keys writes.
There was one reporter, Joel Currier with the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, who asked for any and all evidence "leading up to" Brown’s death in a FOIA request. The request could have possibly included the tape, since the incident report on the robbery identifies Brown as a suspect in the crime.
Currier told The Huffington Post's Matt Sledge in a*tweet*that "I can't recall if I knew of robbery at the time of request. I made it broad in hopes of getting as much material as possible."
In*another tweet, he added, "I think I may have been hearing rumors of a robbery but nothing confirmed."
Journalist Andrew Perez also said that he has tried to get the documents to show who sent FOIA requests for the recording.
"I requested all requests for the videotape too, and they produced a ton of docs but no requests for the tape,"*Perez tweeted.
Perez also tweeted that, when asked, Ferguson Police spokesperson Tim Zoll couldn't think of any specific requests for the tape.
Requests for comment were not immediately returned by Chief Jackson or the Ferguson Police Department.
Authorities have still not released the incident report for Brown's killing. The St. Louis County Police Department is in charge of deciding when that report will be released.
I’m just out here working hard every single day, just trying to be the best poster I can be....
keep em coming.
i want all of them to commit suicide.
i want all of them to commit suicide.
Three troubling things exposed by the Ferguson police shooting of Michael Brown
Attorney General Eric Holder announced Thursday that the Justice Department had “opened a civil pattern or practice investigation into allegations of unlawful policing by the City of Ferguson (Missouri) Police Department (FPD).” This is welcome news given all the troubling things we have seen and learned since FPD Officer Darren Wilson shot and killed Michael Brown, an unarmed 18-year-old African American, on Aug. 9.
But the Wilson shooting of Brown exposed three troubling things that can no longer be ignored.
1.) Criminalizing and profiting from the poor through fees and fines
NPR reported last week on a study by the St. Louis-based legal group ArchCity Defenders that produced a stunning statistic.
In 2013, the municipal court in Ferguson — a city of 21,135 people — issued 32,975 arrest warrants for nonviolent offenses, mostly driving violations.
“Folks have the impression that this is a form of low-level harassment that isn’t about public safety,” Thomas Harvey, the founder of the group, told NPR. “It’s about money.” Big money. The report notes that of Ferguson’s $20 million in revenue, the $2.6 million in court fines and fees was the second-largest source of income. It also pointed out that the Ferguson Municipal Court disposed of “about 3 warrants and 1.5 cases per household” last year.
The officer found that Bolden had four arrest warrants in three separate jurisdictions: the towns of Florissant and Hazelwood in St. Louis County and the town of Foristell in St. Charles County. All of the warrants were for failure to appear in court for traffic violations. Bolden hadn’t appeared in court because she didn’t have the money. A couple of those fines were for speeding, one was for failure to wear her seatbelt and most of the rest were for what defense attorneys in the St. Louis area have come to call “poverty violations” — driving with a suspended license, expired plates, expired registration and a failure to provide proof of insurance.
This is part of the harrowing opening vignette in Balko’s extensive and excellent look at how municipalities in St. Louis County, Mo., profit from poverty. “If you were tasked with designing a regional system of government guaranteed to produce racial conflict, anger, and resentment,” he writes, “you’d be hard pressed to do better than St. Louis County.”
A sure-fire way to change this is for the majority-black population to vote out its current municipal leadership in favor of officials committed to reforming the grossly unfair status quo.
2.) Alleged bad apples in the FPD
One of the reasons Holder is taking a look at the FPD was spelled out by The Post last weekend. At least five Ferguson police officers have been named in civil rights lawsuits.
One officer has faced three internal affairs probes and two lawsuits over claims he violated civil rights and used excessive force while working at a previous police department in the mid-2000s. That department demoted him after finding credible evidence to support one of the complaints, and he subsequently was hired by the Ferguson force.
I would be remiss if I didn’t point out that a former officer involved in one of those cases is now a member of the Ferguson city council.
3.) The militarization of the police
The nation was aghast and angered by the appearance of local police tricked out in militarized riot gear going after mostly peaceful protesters with tear gas and assault weapons more accustomed to the theaters of war.
One person who wasn’t aghast had to have been Balko, whose book, “Rise of the Warrior Cop,” published last year, decries “the militarization of America’s police forces.” In a Wall Street Journal op-ed, Balko summed up his argument in one neat paragraph.
The Pentagon’s 1033 program and others at the Justice and Homeland Security departments that played a role in making the streets of Ferguson resemble Fallujah are now under intense scrutiny. Last week, President Obama ordered a review of these programs and next week, Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.), who showed true leadership at the height of the madness, will chair a hearing on them.
Racial tension and resentment long simmered below the surface in Ferguson.
And they boiled over after the shooting of Michael Brown and the callous treatment of his body and the protesting people of Ferguson. Their shock and anger grabbed the nation’s attention. Now, we must do everything possible to ensure that we never witness another Ferguson again, not in Missouri and not anywhere else in the United States.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...he-ferguson-police-shooting-of-michael-brown/
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/05/us/ferguson-photos-after-the-protests.html?_r=0
Attorney General Eric Holder announced Thursday that the Justice Department had “opened a civil pattern or practice investigation into allegations of unlawful policing by the City of Ferguson (Missouri) Police Department (FPD).” This is welcome news given all the troubling things we have seen and learned since FPD Officer Darren Wilson shot and killed Michael Brown, an unarmed 18-year-old African American, on Aug. 9.
We learned that the population of Ferguson is 67 percent black, but the police force is 83 percent white. We learned that while blacks are a majority of the population, “five of the six council members and the mayor are all white.” And we learned this was the case because even though blacks and whites voted at comparable rates during presidential elections — 54 percent and 55 percent, respectively, in 2012 — only six percent of African Americans (and 17 percent of whites) showed up at the polls for municipal elections the following year.
But the Wilson shooting of Brown exposed three troubling things that can no longer be ignored.
1.) Criminalizing and profiting from the poor through fees and fines
NPR reported last week on a study by the St. Louis-based legal group ArchCity Defenders that produced a stunning statistic.
In 2013, the municipal court in Ferguson — a city of 21,135 people — issued 32,975 arrest warrants for nonviolent offenses, mostly driving violations.
“Folks have the impression that this is a form of low-level harassment that isn’t about public safety,” Thomas Harvey, the founder of the group, told NPR. “It’s about money.” Big money. The report notes that of Ferguson’s $20 million in revenue, the $2.6 million in court fines and fees was the second-largest source of income. It also pointed out that the Ferguson Municipal Court disposed of “about 3 warrants and 1.5 cases per household” last year.
According to ArchCity Defenders, in the nearby St. Louis County town of Florissant, one warrant was issued for every six residents “in the past year” by the municipal court. The court collected “about a quarter of [its] total revenue of $3,000,000” from warrants.
If the number leaves you cold, read my colleague Radley Balko’s account of what happened in Florissant on March 20 to Nicole Bolden after she got into a car accident.The officer found that Bolden had four arrest warrants in three separate jurisdictions: the towns of Florissant and Hazelwood in St. Louis County and the town of Foristell in St. Charles County. All of the warrants were for failure to appear in court for traffic violations. Bolden hadn’t appeared in court because she didn’t have the money. A couple of those fines were for speeding, one was for failure to wear her seatbelt and most of the rest were for what defense attorneys in the St. Louis area have come to call “poverty violations” — driving with a suspended license, expired plates, expired registration and a failure to provide proof of insurance.
This is part of the harrowing opening vignette in Balko’s extensive and excellent look at how municipalities in St. Louis County, Mo., profit from poverty. “If you were tasked with designing a regional system of government guaranteed to produce racial conflict, anger, and resentment,” he writes, “you’d be hard pressed to do better than St. Louis County.”
A sure-fire way to change this is for the majority-black population to vote out its current municipal leadership in favor of officials committed to reforming the grossly unfair status quo.
2.) Alleged bad apples in the FPD
One of the reasons Holder is taking a look at the FPD was spelled out by The Post last weekend. At least five Ferguson police officers have been named in civil rights lawsuits.
In four federal lawsuits, including one that is on appeal, and more than a half-dozen investigations over the past decade, colleagues of Darren Wilson’s have separately contested a variety of allegations, including killing a mentally ill man with a Taser, pistol-whipping a child, choking and hog-tying a child and beating a man who was later charged with destroying city property because his blood spilled on officers’ clothes.
One officer has faced three internal affairs probes and two lawsuits over claims he violated civil rights and used excessive force while working at a previous police department in the mid-2000s. That department demoted him after finding credible evidence to support one of the complaints, and he subsequently was hired by the Ferguson force.
I would be remiss if I didn’t point out that a former officer involved in one of those cases is now a member of the Ferguson city council.
3.) The militarization of the police
The nation was aghast and angered by the appearance of local police tricked out in militarized riot gear going after mostly peaceful protesters with tear gas and assault weapons more accustomed to the theaters of war.
One person who wasn’t aghast had to have been Balko, whose book, “Rise of the Warrior Cop,” published last year, decries “the militarization of America’s police forces.” In a Wall Street Journal op-ed, Balko summed up his argument in one neat paragraph.
Since the 1960s, in response to a range of perceived threats, law-enforcement agencies across the U.S., at every level of government, have been blurring the line between police officer and soldier. Driven by martial rhetoric and the availability of military-style equipment—from bayonets and M-16 rifles to armored personnel carriers—American police forces have often adopted a mind-set previously reserved for the battlefield. The war on drugs and, more recently, post-9/11 antiterrorism efforts have created a new figure on the U.S. scene: the warrior cop—armed to the teeth, ready to deal harshly with targeted wrongdoers, and a growing threat to familiar American liberties.
The Pentagon’s 1033 program and others at the Justice and Homeland Security departments that played a role in making the streets of Ferguson resemble Fallujah are now under intense scrutiny. Last week, President Obama ordered a review of these programs and next week, Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.), who showed true leadership at the height of the madness, will chair a hearing on them.
Racial tension and resentment long simmered below the surface in Ferguson.
And they boiled over after the shooting of Michael Brown and the callous treatment of his body and the protesting people of Ferguson. Their shock and anger grabbed the nation’s attention. Now, we must do everything possible to ensure that we never witness another Ferguson again, not in Missouri and not anywhere else in the United States.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...he-ferguson-police-shooting-of-michael-brown/
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/05/us/ferguson-photos-after-the-protests.html?_r=0
Really?!?!!? Ya don't say
Ferguson Police Chief Lied About Why He Released Alleged Michael Brown Robbery Tape: Report
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/5773420
Well, the world is seeing America for what it is...that's for damn sure.
Well, the world is seeing America for what it is...that's for damn sure.
Yeah, that did not sound right to me a the moment that it happened. I was like how could he say that people were asking for a tape to be released when nobody knew that it existed at the time?
Glad to see that he got exposed.
Patrol cars are cutting up or setting up. U city to Ferguson. Be safe this weekend.
It may be in your city.
It may be in your city.
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Workers who were witnesses provide new perspective on Michael Brown shooting
http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/...cle_14a3e5f8-6c6a-5deb-92fe-87fcee622c29.html
Among the claims that ignited the fury over the fatal shooting of Michael Brown were that Ferguson police Officer Darren Wilson chased the unarmed teen on foot, shot at him as he ran away, then fired a barrage of fatal shots after Brown had turned around with his hands up.
Almost all of the witnesses who shared these accounts with media either knew Brown; lived at or near the Canfield Green apartments, where the shooting occurred; or were visiting friends or relatives there.
But there were two outsiders who happened to be working outside at the apartment complex on Aug. 9 — two men from a company in Jefferson County — who heard a single gunshot, looked up from their work and witnessed the shooting.
Both have given their statements to the St. Louis County police and the FBI. One of the men agreed to share his account with a Post-Dispatch reporter on the condition that his name and employer not be used.
The worker, who has not previously spoken with reporters, said he did not see what happened at the officer’s car — where Wilson and Brown engaged in an initial struggle and a shot was fired from Wilson’s gun.
His account largely matches those who reported that Wilson chased Brown on foot away from the car after the initial gunshot and fired at least one more shot in the direction of Brown as he was fleeing; that Brown stopped, turned around and put his hands up; and that the officer killed Brown in a barrage of gunfire.
But his account does little to clarify perhaps the most critical moment of the confrontation, on which members of the grand jury in St. Louis County may focus to determine whether the officer was justified in using lethal force: whether Brown moved toward Wilson just before the fatal shots, and if he did, how aggressively.
At least one witness has said Brown was not moving. Others didn’t mention him moving, while still others have said he was heading toward Wilson.
There is no way to determine how many witnesses have spoken to law enforcement without making public statements. The worker acknowledged that his account could be valuable to the case because he did not know either Brown or Wilson and had no ties to Ferguson.
The worker said he saw Brown on Aug. 9 about 11 a.m. as Brown was walking west on Canfield Drive, toward West Florissant Avenue.
He said Brown struck up a rambling, half-hour conversation with his co-worker.
The co-worker could not be reached for comment through his employer. He previously told KTVI (Channel 2) that he had uttered a profanity in frustration after hitting a tree root while digging. Brown heard him and stopped to talk.
Brown “told me he was feeling some bad vibes,” the co-worker told KTVI in a video that aired Aug. 12. “That the Lord Jesus Christ would help me through that as long as I didn’t get all angry at what I was doing.”
The worker interviewed by the Post-Dispatch said he paid attention to little of the conversation. He said he heard Brown tell his co-worker that he had a picture of Jesus on his wall; and the co-worker joked that the devil had a picture of him on the wall.
The co-worker told KTVI that Brown promised to come back and resume their conversation; Brown walked away, and the workers returned to their job.
About a half-hour later, the worker heard a gunshot. Then he saw Brown running away from a police car. Wilson trailed about 10 to 15 feet behind, gun in hand. About 90 feet away from the car, the worker said, Wilson fired another shot at Brown, whose back was turned.
The worker said Brown stumbled and then stopped, put his hands up, turned around and said, “OK, OK, OK, OK, OK.” He said he told investigators from the St. Louis County police and the FBI that because of the stumble, it seemed to him that Brown had been wounded.
A private autopsy showed that all but one of his gunshot wounds came while Brown was facing Wilson. Shawn L. Parcells, who participated in the autopsy, said one of the wounds to the arm could have occurred when Brown was facing away from Wilson. “It’s inconclusive,” he said. St. Louis County and federal autopsy results have not been released.
Wilson, gun drawn, also stopped about 10 feet in front of Brown, the worker said.
Then Brown moved, the worker said. “He’s kind of walking back toward the cop.” He said Brown’s hands were still up.
Wilson began backing up as he fired, the worker said.
After the third shot, Brown’s hands started going down, and he moved about 25 feet toward Wilson, who kept backing away and firing. The worker said he could not tell from where he watched — about 50 feet away — if Brown’s motion toward Wilson after the shots was “a stumble to the ground” or “OK, I’m going to get you, you’re already shooting me.”
Among people who have spoken to the media, there hasn’t been a clear consensus on what happened after Brown turned around.
Dorian Johnson — a friend of Brown’s who said he was walking with him when Wilson approached them on Canfield and told them to get off the street — told CNN that Brown was “beginning to tell the officer he was unarmed and to tell him to stop shooting.” Johnson, 22, told KTVI Brown was starting to get down when he was shot.
Johnson also told MSNBC that Wilson began shooting before Brown “could get his last words out.”
Another witness who lives nearby, Michael T. Brady, 32, told CNN that Brown turned with his hands under his stomach. He also said Brown took one or two steps toward Wilson as he was going down when Wilson fired three or four more times.
Piaget Crenshaw, who lives in the Canfield apartments, and Tiffany Mitchell, her boss, were in different places in the complex. Crenshaw told CNN that Brown didn’t move toward Wilson. In several statements to reporters, neither has mentioned Brown moving toward Wilson.
The New York Times quoted James McKnight as saying Brown stumbled toward Wilson, who was 6 to 7 feet away.
Phillip Walker, 40, another Canfield Green resident, told the Post-Dispatch on Tuesday that Brown was walking at a steady pace toward Wilson, with his hands up. “Not quickly,” Walker said. “He did not rush the officer.” Walker, who is distantly related to a Post-Dispatch reporter not involved in this report, said the last shot, into the top of Brown’s head, was from about 4 feet away.
“It wasn’t justified because he didn’t pose no threat to the officer. I don’t understand why he didn’t Tase him if he deemed him to be hostile. He didn’t have no weapon on him. I was confused on why he was shooting his rounds off like that into this individual,” Walker said.
The co-worker in the KTVI interview said he “starting hearing pops and when I look over … I seen somebody staggering and running. And when he finally caught himself he threw his hands up and started screaming, ‘OK, OK, OK, OK, OK, OK.’”
He said the officer “didn’t say, ‘Get on the ground.’ He didn’t say anything. At first his gun was down and then he … got about 8 to 10 feet away from him … I heard six, seven shots … it seemed like seven. Then he put his gun down. That’s when Michael stumbled forward. I’d say about 25 feet or so and then fell right on his face.”
No witness has ever publicly claimed that Brown charged at Wilson. The worker interviewed by the Post-Dispatch disputed claims by Wilson’s defenders that Brown was running full speed at the officer.
“I don’t know if he was going after him or if he was falling down to die,” he said. “It wasn’t a bull rush.”
David Hunn and Stephen Deere of the Post-Dispatch contributed to this report.
http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/...cle_14a3e5f8-6c6a-5deb-92fe-87fcee622c29.html
Among the claims that ignited the fury over the fatal shooting of Michael Brown were that Ferguson police Officer Darren Wilson chased the unarmed teen on foot, shot at him as he ran away, then fired a barrage of fatal shots after Brown had turned around with his hands up.
Almost all of the witnesses who shared these accounts with media either knew Brown; lived at or near the Canfield Green apartments, where the shooting occurred; or were visiting friends or relatives there.
But there were two outsiders who happened to be working outside at the apartment complex on Aug. 9 — two men from a company in Jefferson County — who heard a single gunshot, looked up from their work and witnessed the shooting.
Both have given their statements to the St. Louis County police and the FBI. One of the men agreed to share his account with a Post-Dispatch reporter on the condition that his name and employer not be used.
The worker, who has not previously spoken with reporters, said he did not see what happened at the officer’s car — where Wilson and Brown engaged in an initial struggle and a shot was fired from Wilson’s gun.
His account largely matches those who reported that Wilson chased Brown on foot away from the car after the initial gunshot and fired at least one more shot in the direction of Brown as he was fleeing; that Brown stopped, turned around and put his hands up; and that the officer killed Brown in a barrage of gunfire.
But his account does little to clarify perhaps the most critical moment of the confrontation, on which members of the grand jury in St. Louis County may focus to determine whether the officer was justified in using lethal force: whether Brown moved toward Wilson just before the fatal shots, and if he did, how aggressively.
At least one witness has said Brown was not moving. Others didn’t mention him moving, while still others have said he was heading toward Wilson.
There is no way to determine how many witnesses have spoken to law enforcement without making public statements. The worker acknowledged that his account could be valuable to the case because he did not know either Brown or Wilson and had no ties to Ferguson.
The worker said he saw Brown on Aug. 9 about 11 a.m. as Brown was walking west on Canfield Drive, toward West Florissant Avenue.
He said Brown struck up a rambling, half-hour conversation with his co-worker.
The co-worker could not be reached for comment through his employer. He previously told KTVI (Channel 2) that he had uttered a profanity in frustration after hitting a tree root while digging. Brown heard him and stopped to talk.
Brown “told me he was feeling some bad vibes,” the co-worker told KTVI in a video that aired Aug. 12. “That the Lord Jesus Christ would help me through that as long as I didn’t get all angry at what I was doing.”
The worker interviewed by the Post-Dispatch said he paid attention to little of the conversation. He said he heard Brown tell his co-worker that he had a picture of Jesus on his wall; and the co-worker joked that the devil had a picture of him on the wall.
The co-worker told KTVI that Brown promised to come back and resume their conversation; Brown walked away, and the workers returned to their job.
About a half-hour later, the worker heard a gunshot. Then he saw Brown running away from a police car. Wilson trailed about 10 to 15 feet behind, gun in hand. About 90 feet away from the car, the worker said, Wilson fired another shot at Brown, whose back was turned.
The worker said Brown stumbled and then stopped, put his hands up, turned around and said, “OK, OK, OK, OK, OK.” He said he told investigators from the St. Louis County police and the FBI that because of the stumble, it seemed to him that Brown had been wounded.
A private autopsy showed that all but one of his gunshot wounds came while Brown was facing Wilson. Shawn L. Parcells, who participated in the autopsy, said one of the wounds to the arm could have occurred when Brown was facing away from Wilson. “It’s inconclusive,” he said. St. Louis County and federal autopsy results have not been released.
Wilson, gun drawn, also stopped about 10 feet in front of Brown, the worker said.
Then Brown moved, the worker said. “He’s kind of walking back toward the cop.” He said Brown’s hands were still up.
Wilson began backing up as he fired, the worker said.
After the third shot, Brown’s hands started going down, and he moved about 25 feet toward Wilson, who kept backing away and firing. The worker said he could not tell from where he watched — about 50 feet away — if Brown’s motion toward Wilson after the shots was “a stumble to the ground” or “OK, I’m going to get you, you’re already shooting me.”
Among people who have spoken to the media, there hasn’t been a clear consensus on what happened after Brown turned around.
Dorian Johnson — a friend of Brown’s who said he was walking with him when Wilson approached them on Canfield and told them to get off the street — told CNN that Brown was “beginning to tell the officer he was unarmed and to tell him to stop shooting.” Johnson, 22, told KTVI Brown was starting to get down when he was shot.
Johnson also told MSNBC that Wilson began shooting before Brown “could get his last words out.”
Another witness who lives nearby, Michael T. Brady, 32, told CNN that Brown turned with his hands under his stomach. He also said Brown took one or two steps toward Wilson as he was going down when Wilson fired three or four more times.
Piaget Crenshaw, who lives in the Canfield apartments, and Tiffany Mitchell, her boss, were in different places in the complex. Crenshaw told CNN that Brown didn’t move toward Wilson. In several statements to reporters, neither has mentioned Brown moving toward Wilson.
The New York Times quoted James McKnight as saying Brown stumbled toward Wilson, who was 6 to 7 feet away.
Phillip Walker, 40, another Canfield Green resident, told the Post-Dispatch on Tuesday that Brown was walking at a steady pace toward Wilson, with his hands up. “Not quickly,” Walker said. “He did not rush the officer.” Walker, who is distantly related to a Post-Dispatch reporter not involved in this report, said the last shot, into the top of Brown’s head, was from about 4 feet away.
“It wasn’t justified because he didn’t pose no threat to the officer. I don’t understand why he didn’t Tase him if he deemed him to be hostile. He didn’t have no weapon on him. I was confused on why he was shooting his rounds off like that into this individual,” Walker said.
The co-worker in the KTVI interview said he “starting hearing pops and when I look over … I seen somebody staggering and running. And when he finally caught himself he threw his hands up and started screaming, ‘OK, OK, OK, OK, OK, OK.’”
He said the officer “didn’t say, ‘Get on the ground.’ He didn’t say anything. At first his gun was down and then he … got about 8 to 10 feet away from him … I heard six, seven shots … it seemed like seven. Then he put his gun down. That’s when Michael stumbled forward. I’d say about 25 feet or so and then fell right on his face.”
No witness has ever publicly claimed that Brown charged at Wilson. The worker interviewed by the Post-Dispatch disputed claims by Wilson’s defenders that Brown was running full speed at the officer.
“I don’t know if he was going after him or if he was falling down to die,” he said. “It wasn’t a bull rush.”
David Hunn and Stephen Deere of the Post-Dispatch contributed to this report.
So two more witnesses come forward to say what we already know
But let these CAC's tell it we need to wait for all the facts to come out. What more facts do we need? Haven't enough come out already? This makes 6 eye witnesses by my count all telling the same story. Like that youngin said the words of a black person ain't shit in comparison to a rumor from a white person
I’m just out here working hard every single day, just trying to be the best poster I can be....
But let these CAC's tell it we need to wait for all the facts to come out. What more facts do we need? Haven't enough come out already? This makes 6 eye witnesses by my count all telling the same story. Like that youngin said the words of a black person ain't shit in comparison to a rumor from a white person
I’m just out here working hard every single day, just trying to be the best poster I can be....
What justifies killing someone who surrendered? I don't care if Wilson did have a broken orbital bone. If he chased Brown, fired a warning shot, then executed him while Browns hands were up, nothing else matters. He needs to go to jail.
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So two more witnesses come forward to say what we already know
But let these CAC's tell it we need to wait for all the facts to come out. What more facts do we need? Haven't enough come out already? This makes 6 eye witnesses by my count all telling the same story. Like that youngin said the words of a black person ain't shit in comparison to a rumor from a white person
I’m just out here working hard every single day, just trying to be the best poster I can be....
100 black people = 1 white person
100 black people = 1 white person
exactly
What a load of crap by the Ferguson PD. If they wanted to grant the Freedom of Information requests so badly why haven't we heard the Darren Wilson call to dispatch after he shot Michael Brown?
Just another attempt at discrediting the victim cause he's black. I really hope that the rest of the world is playing close attention to this situation and is ready to throw it back in this country's face the next time that the government tries to act holier than thou and check someone else for their behavior towards their citizens.
Just another attempt at discrediting the victim cause he's black. I really hope that the rest of the world is playing close attention to this situation and is ready to throw it back in this country's face the next time that the government tries to act holier than thou and check someone else for their behavior towards their citizens.
Somebody has to do something
What took them so long to release the name and photo of the officer
and why hasn't he been arrested and charged yet.
They have no intentions to charge or arrest him.
