~*~2014 NBA OffSeason Thread - Free Agency Starts - 7/1 12am ~*~

[spider705]

But Bosh said he wanted like 18, right? Man if I'm a Miami fan I'm SUPER PISSED at this point.

Bosh gets 18
Wade gets 17
Bron gets 22 (hypothetically)

That's 57.....the luxury tax starts at like 63, hard cap at 70+??? Y'all could have did all of this before even approaching Bron.

You hit Bron with that along with a couple of other free agency moves (selection of Ariza, Miller, Allen, McRob, Deng, or other FA) and he'd be hard pressed not to stay.

Stay with a formula that's worked the past 4 years and netted 2 chips, or go back home to the unknown and play for "massa" as some of u guys refer to him......

The heat had no plan to keep LeBron James. None. At. ALL.




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[dtownsfinest]

Melo played the stretch 4 a lot
In NYC and he's strong enough/big enough to do it and be successful. He was going to be on the court a lot with Melo playing the 3 and Melo at the 4.







And you're right there was no need for Melo, but if u have a chance to land one of the top 5 players in the league you at least kick the tires.


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Man I would've HATED to see a lineup of Dwight, Melo, Parsons, Harden and....I guess Beverely in the 4th quarter of games. That shit would've been depressing defensively. Howard could only do so much. Penetrate and dish all game against that lineup lol.

 

[AwwDamn]

Ricky Rubio looking for a 5 year Max deal from Minnesota...

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...um=referral&utm_campaign=programming-national

 

[dtownsfinest]

Wade 2 years $30-34 mil. He officially lawst.

Waiting in BGOL accountants to explain how $34 mil > $42 mil

He's no longer the loser of free agency. That's a hometown discount. I can respect that. I thoguht he was gonna go from 42 million to like 15 million or some shit. I really thought he dropped the ball. Heat must really think he buying some new knees with that 34 million. That's incredibly foolish. He essentially took a Kobe deal but its a pay cut.

 

[KingTaharqa]

Wade is a made man in Miami.
They will build a statue of him.
He's set for life with the Heat.

Nah fam, BGOL accountants say he's livin check to check and will be in the poor house soon.

And we all know the Heat dont take care of their players post retirement, ask Zo.

 

[dtownsfinest]

Nah fam, BGOL accountants say he's livin check to check and will be in the poor house soon.

And we all know the Heat dont take care of their players post retirement, ask Zo.

Who said Wade be living check to check? Why do you always talk about what "people say" and then you come up with lies?

 

[AwwDamn]

He's no longer the loser of free agency. That's a hometown discount. I can respect that. I thoguht he was gonna go from 42 million to like 15 million or some shit. I really thought he dropped the ball. Heat must really think he buying some new knees with that 34 million. That's incredibly foolish. He essentially took a Kobe deal but its a pay cut.

Anytime you take a paycut to help a billionaire owner make and save money you took a loss! The Heat wouldn't be who they are today if it wasn't for Wade, the most important player in franchise history. Why the hell does it have to be the players who sacrifice? Fuck that, get your money while you are healthy enough to command that kind of bread! I respect what Kobe did, these owners are pimping these players and Dudes on here applauding that bullshit! If that's not a slave mentality I don't know what is!

 

[KingTaharqa]

Who said Wade be living check to check? Why do you always talk about what "people say" and then you come up with lies?

Wade "lost" he's ONLY making 17 mill a season.

 

[AwwDamn]

Fuck all that take care of me when I retire shit! Zo wasn't commanding this type of bread when he bounced either. So what if a player doesn't want to work in basketball when he's done!? So accorfing to yalls logic the best thing to do is to for the rest of your life be beholding and connected to the team owner huh!? Dependent slave mentality, fuck that get your money now and make your own choices later! For every dollar Wade sacrifices for Mickey that CAC is making 10! FOH with that bullshit!

 

[Big Tex]

Anytime you take a paycut to help a billionaire owner make and save money you took a loss! The Heat wouldn't be who they are today if it wasn't for Wade, the most important player in franchise history. Why the hell does it have to be the players who sacrifice? Fuck that, get your money while you are healthy enough to command that kind of bread! I respect what Kobe did, these owners are pimping these players and Dudes on here applauding that bullshit! If that's not a slave mentality I don't know what is!

First, you have to remember that the 2 years 42 was from Wade ALREADY taking a pay cut. So he essentially took a pay cut on his pay cut.

No thanks.

 

[spider705]

Man I would've HATED to see a lineup of Dwight, Melo, Parsons, Harden and....I guess Beverely in the 4th quarter of games. That shit would've been depressing defensively. Howard could only do so much. Penetrate and dish all game against that lineup lol.

The opposing team would hate to see that lineup on offense as well......



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[dtownsfinest]

Anytime you take a paycut to help a billionaire owner make and save money you took a loss! The Heat wouldn't be who they are today if it wasn't for Wade, the most important player in franchise history. Why the hell does it have to be the players who sacrifice? Fuck that, get your money while you are healthy enough to command that kind of bread! I respect what Kobe did, these owners are pimping these players and Dudes on here applauding that bullshit! If that's not a slave mentality I don't know what is!

Naw I can't say that. On one hand i'm not about giving a billionaire a discount but if that owner is truly trying to build talent? You gotta take a pay cut to do it.

Y'all keep talking like this MLB. Like there's no salary cap. You can't give these niggas 25 million a year and then talk about why there ain't more talent around them. That shit is nearly 40% of the salary cap. You just can't do that.

Like Melo right now he's gonna eat. But I guarantee you a year from now he's going to be crying about the talent in New York and gonna ask to be traded. You took the majority of the cap space. You no longer have the right to complain about the team around you.

So Wade took a pay cut. It ain't gonna do shit for that cap though. 6 million ain't shit.

Heat played themselves. Wade ain't the loser its the Heat. They overpaid for Bosh and Wade. Bosh....okay. He's a solid all star. Wade is going down hill. I don't care what his stats say. He was a liability in that Spurs series.

 

[dtownsfinest]

The opposing team would hate to see that lineup on offense as well......



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That's that Don Nelson and Mike Dan and Tony philosophy there. Gonna be averaging 105 points a game and giving up 107.

 

[dtownsfinest]

Wade "lost" he's ONLY making 17 mill a season.

Well dudes said he lost because he was suppose to make 21-22 million. I'm not gonna say he lost but I don't see no one saying he's living check to check.

 

[KingTaharqa]

Fuck all that take care of me when I retire shit! Zo wasn't commanding this type of bread when he bounced either. So what if a player doesn't want to work in basketball when he's done!? So accorfing to yalls logic the best thing to do is to for the rest of your life be beholding and connected to the team owner huh!? Dependent slave mentality, fuck that get your money now and make your own choices later! For every dollar Wade sacrifices for Mickey that CAC is making 10! FOH with that bullshit!

Slave mentality is placing your self worth in the white mans currency. Maybe Wade is good financially and wanted a deal that gives the team flexibility to contend. Yall actin like he signed for 5 mill a season. He got his last 2 rings not bein the highest paid player on his squad. He's good.

 

[AwwDamn]

Naw I can't say that. On one hand i'm not about giving a billionaire a discount but if that owner is truly trying to build talent? You gotta take a pay cut to do it.

Y'all keep talking like this MLB. Like there's no salary cap. You can't give these niggas 25 million a year and then talk about why there ain't more talent around them. That shit is nearly 40% of the salary cap. You just can't do that.

Like Melo right now he's gonna eat. But I guarantee you a year from now he's going to be crying about the talent in New York and gonna ask to be traded. You took the majority of the cap space. You no longer have the right to complain about the team around you.

So Wade took a pay cut. It ain't gonna do shit for that cap though. 6 million ain't shit.

Heat played themselves. Wade ain't the loser its the Heat. They overpaid for Bosh and Wade. Bosh....okay. He's a solid all star. Wade is going down hill. I don't care what his stats say. He was a liability in that Spurs series.

I'm not taking a pay cut to do shit! Let that motherfucker pay the penalties. I'm gonna lose money to build HIS team, which he will continue to make money on after I'm gone? Shit, that Dudes money is longer than Wades. Let him take the L!

 

[LordSinister]

Because (for the 25th time) the only thing that matters is the bottomline dollar amount. His contract is not dependent on performance. All money is guaranteed. So for a guy who is on his last leg and who wont foreseeably get another contract in two years, any deal worth more total dollars exceeds one with less total dollars. Regardless of duration.

And for the last time, how many years and at what money? With Bronze gone now do you really think they are going to match what he lost? What does Miami gain by doing this without Lebron and Bosh?

Maybe they give him the Kobe, but I doubt it.

Why do people keep saying this misinformed dumb shit? Wade is gonna get a deal worth more than the $42 he opted out of. Its a net gain ultimately.

no it's not misinformed when there's no actual deal on the table and any expected deal will more than likely require him to play longer than 2 years to get that $$$ back

Wade is going to sign a 20 year 500K contract.

Whelp... Looks like Riles is looking out for D-Wade.

Ninjas in here talking about statues. For 8 Million you could build a Museum and fill em with that shit.

 

[AwwDamn]

What yall don't realize. Is the cap structure and all that shit was set up by the owners and for the owners so they can make more money on the backs of these players and it amazes me how you Dudes have brought into that bullshit! Yeah, it makes sense to keep letting these owners pimp you to increase the value of their team just so you can be called a team player and a good guy!?! Fuck that! The Cavs value went up 500 mill because of LeBron, an his contract is a fraction of that shit! Some of you are gullibe as fuck!

 

[spider705]

That's that Don Nelson and Mike Dan and Tony philosophy there. Gonna be averaging 105 points a game and giving up 107.

Well you'd know first hand after having Nelson as HC.....

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[AwwDamn]

Slave mentality is placing your self worth in the white mans currency. Maybe Wade is good financially and wanted a deal that gives the team flexibility to contend. Yall actin like he signed for 5 mill a season. He got his last 2 rings not bein the highest paid player on his squad. He's good.

Yeah right, you really believe that shit too which is sad as fuck!

 

[dtownsfinest]

I'm not taking a pay cut to do shit! Let that motherfucker pay the penalties. I'm gonna lose money to build HIS team, which he will continue to make money on after I'm gone? Shit, that Dudes money is longer than Wades. Let him take the L!

Its not about no penalties though. You need salary cap sapce to add talent. The only way you get cap space is if you take a favorable contract. Its bigger than paying penalties. The Russian didn't go out there and just buy guys. He took on contracts by trading. Heat ain't got shit to trade. So how do you get better if you're over the cap? You have no draft picks. No money. So how?

 

[dtownsfinest]

Well you'd know first hand after having Nelson as HC.....

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Which is why i'm saying that shit is depressing. Scoring at will and giving up points at will. I know it first hand. Good for 60 games a year and a 1st round exit. Kind of like what y'all did last year.

 

[LordSinister]

Slave mentality is placing your self worth in the white mans currency. Maybe Wade is good financially and wanted a deal that gives the team flexibility to contend. Yall actin like he signed for 5 mill a season. He got his last 2 rings not bein the highest paid player on his squad. He's good.

Cuzz, he took a pay cut and was already owed 42 Mil. If he was taking a cut for more championships and more off the court $$ yeah.

He got fucked over and you're making excuses like "he cool with it cause he got 2 rings"

Is the owner dropping the price of beer or hot dogs in the 2nd half cause they are older and flatter? Fuck naw.

He put that money back into the register twice and the 2nd time he did it, he was the only one of the "big 3" not to get Max.

He got bitched.

 

[Amajorfucup]

All you cats I told he would sign for a 3or4year deal in excess of 42million....

 

[D-TOWN REP]

Dirk played himself worse than Wade

His deal is actually 3 years 25 mill not 3 years 30 mill

He took 5 mill less than originally expected to help out the Parsons deal

Cuban got him with no Vaseline

Nigga still doesn't have a 2nd Allstar on his team and he making Channing Frye money

GTFOH

 

[Mack1052]

Dirk played himself worse than Wade

His deal is actually 3 years 25 mill not 3 years 30 mill

He took 5 mill less than originally expected to help out the Parsons deal

Cuban got him with no Vaseline

Nigga still doesn't have a 2nd Allstar on his team and he making Channing Frye money

GTFOH

Thats crazy.. Parsons better ball out

 

[dtownsfinest]

Dirk played himself worse than Wade

His deal is actually 3 years 25 mill not 3 years 30 mill

He took 5 mill less than originally expected to help out the Parsons deal

Cuban got him with no Vaseline

Nigga still doesn't have a 2nd Allstar on his team and he making Channing Frye money

GTFOH

Same shit applies to Dirk. You can't talk that "I need more talent around me" shit and then want to take 25 million a year. I'm about getting paid but you can't do both. When the salary in two years goes to 80 million you can have a little more freedom to do that. But now? Cap is at 53 million and you want to by yourself take 25 of it? Good luck on getting a team around you.

Everyone not about money. Sure I would be if I was these guys because these dudes not gonna ride for you when you hurt or have health problems and they can no longer make money off you.

But if Dirk wants a ring you gotta pay for it. Mavs also took more salary in that Knicks deal and if they didn't have cap space they couldn't bring back Chandler.

 

[D-TOWN REP]

Same shit applies to Dirk. You can't talk that "I need more talent around me" shit and then want to take 25 million a year. I'm about getting paid but you can't do both. When the salary in two years goes to 80 million you can have a little more freedom to do that. But now? Cap is at 53 million and you want to by yourself take 25 of it? Good luck on getting a team around you.

Everyone not about money. Sure I would be if I was these guys because these dudes not gonna ride for you when you hurt or have health problems and they can no longer make money off you.

But if Dirk wants a ring you gotta pay for it. Mavs also took more salary in that Knicks deal and if they didn't have cap space they couldn't bring back Chandler.

At the same time where is the limit?

I guess that depends on the player

But 8 mill a year?

That's how low he got to go to win?

Something is wrong with that picture

But it's his life and money and I ain't seeing a red cent of it

Just don't think it's right

But yeah these niggas can't think they can take up a third of the cap and then complain about not winning

I do agree there

 

[LordSinister]

All you cats I told he would sign for a 3or4year deal in excess of 42million....

You have nothing to be sorry about. You didn't just give back 8 million dollars for Napier, McRoberts and Deng.

 

[dtownsfinest]

At the same time where is the limit?

I guess that depends on the player

But 8 mill a year?

That's how low he got to go to win?

Something is wrong with that picture

But it's his life and money and I ain't seeing a red cent of it

Just don't think it's right

But yeah these niggas can't think they can take up a third of the cap and then complain about not winning

I do agree there

If he wants his homeboy Parsons in here? That's the price he has to pay. He's made good money in the NBA. He's probably content with making over 150 million in the NBA. Dirk doesn't think like tehse other guys. We already know this. He's had plenty of times to leave the Mavs and never did. Never asked to be traded. He's like a goofy fun loving kid who just likes to play basketball. He's one of these guys who'd play for free. Not propping him up for that or nothing but that's his MO.

Couldn't be me. I like basketball but i'm gonna EAT. Fuck the bullshit. Especially if you gonna be cheap and not use your mid-level? Oh hell naw.

I can admire taking a cut but I can't admire taking a cut for a owner who won't even spend the mid-level.


And i'm calling it now. Melo gonna ask for a trade in a year. He got his money though so maybe that was the plan all along. Get that money...pretend like you happy to be back and like you didn't try to bolt to Houston........and then ask for a trade lol.

 

[KingTaharqa]

Udonis Haslem re-signs wit the Heat.

 

[Llano]

Dirk played himself worse than Wade

His deal is actually 3 years 25 mill not 3 years 30 mill

He took 5 mill less than originally expected to help out the Parsons deal

Cuban got him with no Vaseline

Nigga still doesn't have a 2nd Allstar on his team and he making Channing Frye money

GTFOH

Rockets & Lakers offered Dirk a max deal Dirk should have hopped his ass on to 45 south as soon as Morey called him.

 

[BDR]

The bulls amnestied snoozer

20 yrs too late

 

[D-TOWN REP]

If he wants his homeboy Parsons in here? That's the price he has to pay. He's made good money in the NBA. He's probably content with making over 150 million in the NBA. Dirk doesn't think like tehse other guys. We already know this. He's had plenty of times to leave the Mavs and never did. Never asked to be traded. He's like a goofy fun loving kid who just likes to play basketball. He's one of these guys who'd play for free. Not propping him up for that or nothing but that's his MO.

Couldn't be me. I like basketball but i'm gonna EAT. Fuck the bullshit. Especially if you gonna be cheap and not use your mid-level? Oh hell naw.

I can admire taking a cut but I can't admire taking a cut for a owner who won't even spend the mid-level.


And i'm calling it now. Melo gonna ask for a trade in a year. He got his money though so maybe that was the plan all along. Get that money...pretend like you happy to be back and like you didn't try to bolt to Houston........and then ask for a trade lol.

Damn you right

We didn't use the mid leave did we?

Man fuck Mark Cuban

I wouldn't give him a discount at all

 

[Mask]

Udonis Haslem re-signs wit the Heat.

Yea Mr 305 wasn't going any where