Music Debate: Lord Jamar talks white rappers & WHY Action Bronson is BAD for Ghostface's legacy

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I understand the gods point......but its all just entertainment, and it needs to be kept in its proper perspective. I dig action Bronson, as an artist. Is his style sharking Ghost? Yeah, but its still good music, IMO. Listening to ghost or action is like watching a movie or reading a book or playing a videogame....its all bulshit entertainment. How many times can the story of drugs, violence, and sex be told? Infinite ways, and that's the BEAUTY OF HIP-HOP!!!! Its all the same shit told by a different poet.
 
I understand the gods point......but its all just entertainment, and it needs to be kept in its proper perspective. I dig action Bronson, as an artist. Is his style sharking Ghost? Yeah, but its still good music, IMO. Listening to ghost or action is like watching a movie or reading a book or playing a videogame....its all bulshit entertainment. How many times can the story of drugs, violence, and sex be told? Infinite ways, and that's the BEAUTY OF HIP-HOP!!!! Its all the same shit told by a different poet.

Indeed, but like dude said. Our music is now being fed in an abundance to the white audience. So the young white kid who's 10 that discovers Action Bronson may not due his research enough on Hip Hop to know dude style is from Ghostface. Think of all the white folk who only listen to Eminem and no other Hip hop period. So all they know is Em. Action's young fan base might do the same.
 
I was with him till he said Iggy Azalea was going to blow up...


Nah.. She's fucking wack, and she has no sex appeal (something successful female rappers need)... She's Kreayshawn 2.0..
 
I understand the gods point......but its all just entertainment, and it needs to be kept in its proper perspective. I dig action Bronson, as an artist. Is his style sharking Ghost? Yeah, but its still good music, IMO. Listening to ghost or action is like watching a movie or reading a book or playing a videogame....its all bulshit entertainment. How many times can the story of drugs, violence, and sex be told? Infinite ways, and that's the BEAUTY OF HIP-HOP!!!! Its all the same shit told by a different poet.
It's culture vulturism, b. It's all the same black artists getting swag jacked by the same white doppelgangers.



 
I understand the gods point......but its all just entertainment, and it needs to be kept in its proper perspective. I dig action Bronson, as an artist. Is his style sharking Ghost? Yeah, but its still good music, IMO. Listening to ghost or action is like watching a movie or reading a book or playing a videogame....its all bulshit entertainment. How many times can the story of drugs, violence, and sex be told? Infinite ways, and that's the BEAUTY OF HIP-HOP!!!! Its all the same shit told by a different poet.

Indeed, but like dude said. Our music is now being fed in an abundance to the white audience. So the young white kid who's 10 that discovers Action Bronson may not due his research enough on Hip Hop to know dude style is from Ghostface. Think of all the white folk who only listen to Eminem and no other Hip hop period. So all they know is Em. Action's young fan base might do the same.

true

but the culture of hip hop suffers. I like Action too and dude pays MAD homage to Ghost but he is telling the truth. Its like when Lupe forgot the lyrics to that Tribe Called Quest song on stage and when he tried to rap over TROY..its just music but as culture hip hop has rules and ideas and legacies you have to respect.

I do feel like he has to be careful because by saying hip hop is ONLY a brothers medium like that...you can have others say that THEIR sport, artform or industry is white or latino etc. and try to restrict us.
 
fuck lord jamar. he was never, ever that nigga. he was shittiest nigga in brand nubian. he was the u-god of the group.
 
true

but the culture of hip hop suffers. I like Action too and dude pays MAD homage to Ghost but he is telling the truth. Its like when Lupe forgot the lyrics to that Tribe Called Quest song on stage and when he tried to rap over TROY..its just music but as culture hip hop has rules and ideas and legacies you have to respect.

I do feel like he has to be careful because by saying hip hop is ONLY a brothers medium like that...you can have others say that THEIR sport, artform or industry is white or latino etc. and try to restrict us.
No one says Salsa music is only for Latinos, but there's never any ambiguity about the fact that Latinos created it and no one takes issue with it being identified as a Latino artform.
 
fuck lord jamar. he was never, ever that nigga. he was shittiest nigga in brand nubian. he was the u-god of the group.

Macklemore, is that you? Or are you just some random white kid that is pissed because TRUTH is being spoken to power? :angry:
 
he makes some good points but i dont think action bronson raps like ghostface...his voice sounds lke gfk but not his rhyme scheme
 
I fuck with Action Bronson, I don't consider him a culture vulture at all.

he respects the art and he can rap his ass off.

And if Ghostface respects what he do enough to jump on songs with him, then whats the issue?

Only similarity they have is in voice.

I with him a some of his views but alot of times he just seems bitter.

Did he feel this way about 3rd Bass? Eminem? Beastie Boys?
 
Macklemore, is that you? Or are you just some random white kid that is pissed because TRUTH is being spoken to power? :angry:

lol. i have zero problem with his view. just his perceived stature in hiphop. but nah i am not white. but we know you are. peace be unto you.
 
You can't expect any group of people that fill up 75%+ of the capacity of hip-hop shows to NOT start to form an interest in the art themselves and pursue it. If it was the other way around and there was NO white people buying tickets or albums from hip-hop artists, we'd be saying fuck them for that too, esp since it looks like they're the reason most these artists are getting money since they buying the tickets at least. So...​
 
lol. i have zero problem with his view. just his perceived stature in hiphop. but nah i am not white. but we know you are. peace be unto you.

You got jokes Sir. You need to check yourself in the ID thread. Wait, I guess you do not know what that is, do you?
 
Indeed, but like dude said. Our music is now being fed in an abundance to the white audience. So the young white kid who's 10 that discovers Action Bronson may not due his research enough on Hip Hop to know dude style is from Ghostface. Think of all the white folk who only listen to Eminem and no other Hip hop period. So all they know is Em. Action's young fan base might do the same.

Not just to be confrontational, but what does it matter what "THEY" think about the culture of hip-hop. I control me and mines, and you yours, and so on....I AM HIP-HOP, and any body that knows ME knows about my music tastes. I try my best to explain MY hip-hop to anyone who will listen. But at the end of the day, people are going to do them, and if some artist is wack, but gets shine, what can be done? I have a ton of hip-hop/rap that the average black male hasn't heard, let alone white people, and its GOOD music. But is that music invalidated because of the lack of exposure? Jamar's opinion is widely supported by hip-hop purists, but as with anything culture related, it will be abused, stolen, distorted, and recycled to death. As black people, we just have to keep creating, and let that creativity be OUR thing.
 
I understand the gods point......but its all just entertainment, and it needs to be kept in its proper perspective. I dig action Bronson, as an artist. Is his style sharking Ghost? Yeah, but its still good music, IMO. Listening to ghost or action is like watching a movie or reading a book or playing a videogame....its all bulshit entertainment. How many times can the story of drugs, violence, and sex be told? Infinite ways, and that's the BEAUTY OF HIP-HOP!!!! Its all the same shit told by a different poet.

Word.

I fuck with Action Bronson, I don't consider him a culture vulture at all.

he respects the art and he can rap his ass off.

And if Ghostface respects what he do enough to jump on songs with him, then whats the issue?

Only similarity they have is in voice.


I with him a some of his views but alot of times he just seems bitter.

Did he feel this way about 3rd Bass? Eminem? Beastie Boys?

Yup.... hate if you want to but Action is dope regardless

 
This is like when Lupe Fiasco said he's never been a fan of Tribe's music. Lupe was influenced by Kanye who was influenced by Consequence who did an album with Tribe. Kids look at Kanye as the visionary and don't even know there was even A Tribe Called Quest.
 
I like Action Bronson. Fuck all this stupid talk. Dude can rap. Period. Don't care what color he is.


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really? i been on bgol since 1999. my bad though, i mistaked you for kogalee.

Don't you evah mishtake me for nobody, you goddam schtoopit somabitch :angry:

Nigga, I's will beets yo ass to the goddam floh! :angry: Boy!:hmm: Yoo ain'ts gots no goddam money. Any nigga that names himself money is broke :D

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Its all good fam. We good.

pEACe!


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You should just schmack yo damn self, you faggot dombass somabitch! :lol:

If you weren't such a faggit ass moisht booty hole somabitch, you might actally amount to somfin one day. You need Allah, morthaforka!!! :hmm:
 
Wow! :lol::lol::lol:

I would rather someone mistake me for Acur or Walter aka Blunt but kogalee :smh: :lol::lol::lol::lol:

Its all good fam. We good.

pEACe!

Boy, if you had any damm sense yoo would knoh that I am ALL a dem muhfuckas. I am JDWalker, Blunt, Acur, sammyjax and I am well paid by HNIC.
 
well Golf is a WHite sport- get Tiger Woods the fuck out of it.

Matter of fact, SO IS BASKETBALL. Get all the Black folks the fuck out of it

Track and field too. Can't let Black folks get NEAR the olympics- just White people- that goes for Asians, Arabs, everybody the fuck else.

Also Boxing- get out Black folks, it's a white sport

Lord Jamar shut your ignorant ass the fuck up

That Russian dude is playing you and your dumb shit for views while you look deaf dumb and blind
 
Action raps like Ghost and makes songs that sound like Ghost's style. Every time I hear Action I only wish it was Ghost instead because Ghost is way better.
 
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