Breaking Bad *series finale 9/29/2013
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So you don't believe that they like to act like they have a "code" ie keeping their word?
I wouldn't call it charitable ..in the sense that.. it wasn't their money..
. but I can see why you would say that..
I understand the skyler part.. played a big part in his motivation ,but lets say skyler was a cold bitch who wouldn't care for her own blood brother..
you don't think everything that happened in the desert wouldn't still happen ? that walt would offer the money to save hank... the tears ? the revenge ? he's known him for over 17 years...
That's his "family" .. for a man who's either killed or order hits with no issue.... that seems to stop.. or become hard when it comes to family.... He considered.. probably still considers jessie a "son" though he hates him now...finally...
So you don't believe that they like to act like they have a "code" ie keeping their word?
I wouldn't call it charitable ..in the sense that.. it wasn't their money..
. but I can see why you would say that.. I understand the skyler part.. played a big part in his motivation ,but lets say skyler was a cold bitch who wouldn't care for her own blood brother..
you don't think everything that happened in the desert wouldn't still happen ? that walt would offer the money to save hank... the tears ? the revenge ? he's known him for over 17 years...
That's his "family" .. for a man who's either killed or order hits with no issue.... that seems to stop.. or become hard when it comes to family.... He considered.. probably still considers jessie a "son" though he hates him now...finally...
Re: Breaking Bad *series finale 8/11/13
He kept trying to save Jesse from himself when he should have just let him die.Jesses been a fuck up since day one.He was only clutch when he killed Gale but Gale was brought on only because Gus was pissed with Walt for keeping a loose cannon like Jesse around.
Some times you need to know who to be loyal to.I think most of tha loyalty stemmed from Jesse being one of his students who he tried to develop a father/son relationship with.
He kept trying to save Jesse from himself when he should have just let him die.Jesses been a fuck up since day one.He was only clutch when he killed Gale but Gale was brought on only because Gus was pissed with Walt for keeping a loose cannon like Jesse around.
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damn I haven't watched the ep yet but I had to sneak a peek @ some of the comments...looks like cranrab was right in his prediction...hank died (no surprise) + them dudes took walt's $$$ smmfh...and walt confessed to jesse bitch dying lol...lemme not spoil the rest for myself...tryna watch it friday
damn I haven't watched the ep yet but I had to sneak a peek @ some of the comments...looks like cranrab was right in his prediction...hank died (no surprise) + them dudes took walt's $$$ smmfh...and walt confessed to jesse bitch dying lol...lemme not spoil the rest for myself...tryna watch it friday
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they certainly do.
the code is to have put a bullet in walt. and jack told walt as much. that lame handshake was bourgeois hollywood bullshit.
as i said BEFORE the episode aired, the whites would PUNK walt for his money. not negotiate. not request. PUNK.
heisenberg ordered the whites to do his bidding. walt pleaded and whined like a bitch and offered triple for hitting jesse. when jack confirmed that walt was too pussy to get his own hands dirty whacking a snivelling junkie, all respect went out the window.
they certainly do.
the code is to have put a bullet in walt. and jack told walt as much. that lame handshake was bourgeois hollywood bullshit.
as i said BEFORE the episode aired, the whites would PUNK walt for his money. not negotiate. not request. PUNK.
heisenberg ordered the whites to do his bidding. walt pleaded and whined like a bitch and offered triple for hitting jesse. when jack confirmed that walt was too pussy to get his own hands dirty whacking a snivelling junkie, all respect went out the window.
Re: Breaking Bad *series finale 8/11/13
You beat me to it.
Ummmm, you know that wasn't Gus's brother right?
You beat me to it.
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thus the reason i said walt could give two shits about hank he cares about the family. If the story line went the way of walt having multiple jump offs not giving a fuck about his family blah blah blah Hank would have long been taking care of as "business"
thus the reason i said walt could give two shits about hank he cares about the family. If the story line went the way of walt having multiple jump offs not giving a fuck about his family blah blah blah Hank would have long been taking care of as "business"
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Yea but usually the device comes off very hackneyed...Dexter stinks to high heaven now, Boardwalk EMpire, while great, has some issues with Nucky; But Walt, like the characters on the Wire, remain spontaneous as the anti-hero. Everytime I think they are going to make Walt into a caricature, they throw in a new idea I was not expecting...the only thing I predicted right was Hank's death, but I thought Walt was going to kill him instead. The writers deserve credit for making Walt, and also Jesse (even though he bitched up and went to the cops) as complex sympathetic figures.
Yea but usually the device comes off very hackneyed...Dexter stinks to high heaven now, Boardwalk EMpire, while great, has some issues with Nucky; But Walt, like the characters on the Wire, remain spontaneous as the anti-hero. Everytime I think they are going to make Walt into a caricature, they throw in a new idea I was not expecting...the only thing I predicted right was Hank's death, but I thought Walt was going to kill him instead. The writers deserve credit for making Walt, and also Jesse (even though he bitched up and went to the cops) as complex sympathetic figures.
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why not?
you've got jesse to cook, and lydia to distribute.
the cartel is out of the picture, you eliminated declan.
you own foreign and domestic distribution.
only problem is, jack is as equally unqualified to be a shot caller as walt is.
why not?
you've got jesse to cook, and lydia to distribute.
the cartel is out of the picture, you eliminated declan.
you own foreign and domestic distribution.
only problem is, jack is as equally unqualified to be a shot caller as walt is.
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Why not? Because everyone gets caught eventually, if you got about 60 mill why risk your freedom
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no time
plus I wanna enjoy it w/ a good strong drink in hand
Friday? Gotta watch it before then, fam'. It's well worth it
no time
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Let that man enjoy the other 20% of what happened in peace.
Who said they were? Just because todd is still cooking meth doesn't mean his uncle and his crew are still around.
The rest?
Let that man enjoy the other 20% of what happened in peace.
Who said they were? Just because todd is still cooking meth doesn't mean his uncle and his crew are still around.
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What's wild is people are like walt only liked jessie because he could control him
well he could have controlled gale also.. and gale was an actual chemist..
remember when walt told gale.. some was wrong with some percentage I think... gale put it at 90.. and walt was on some I told you 80 and gale was like I'm pretty sure it was 80 I wrote it down.. then walt was like you wrote it wrong
and gale..who didn't have a backbone agreed... so gale could have been his "jessie" in that lab.. and gus would still be alive
He has a real love for jessie though... up until those final moments...were jessie spits in his face and he sees he's a snitch..
What's wild is people are like walt only liked jessie because he could control him
well he could have controlled gale also.. and gale was an actual chemist..
remember when walt told gale.. some was wrong with some percentage I think... gale put it at 90.. and walt was on some I told you 80 and gale was like I'm pretty sure it was 80 I wrote it down.. then walt was like you wrote it wrong
and gale..who didn't have a backbone agreed... so gale could have been his "jessie" in that lab.. and gus would still be alive
He has a real love for jessie though... up until those final moments...were jessie spits in his face and he sees he's a snitch..
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It's like asking why doesn't a champion boxer.. keep fighting...
It's just the way their brain is...the same thing that makes you successful can be your downfall..
It's like asking why doesn't a champion boxer.. keep fighting...
It's just the way their brain is...the same thing that makes you successful can be your downfall..
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most of it was predictable + already discussed before the ep dropped...the only thing I'm surprised about is walt confessing to watching the chic die...and now I'm reading walt dumbass is the reason the nazis even knew about the $$$...I'm just watching it for the action...but they have made walt's character very stupid (some are calling it "loyal") this last season
The rest?
most of it was predictable + already discussed before the ep dropped...the only thing I'm surprised about is walt confessing to watching the chic die...and now I'm reading walt dumbass is the reason the nazis even knew about the $$$...I'm just watching it for the action...but they have made walt's character very stupid (some are calling it "loyal") this last season
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I give you that... in that you were correct that that the Nazis would take the money... ,but I ask this .. what other logical reason would be why in the future we see walt with the m 60 ?
You see my point about walt actually having love for hank ? regardless of the skyler angle ?
I give you that... in that you were correct that that the Nazis would take the money... ,but I ask this .. what other logical reason would be why in the future we see walt with the m 60 ?
You see my point about walt actually having love for hank ? regardless of the skyler angle ?
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Losing the money shows that Walt wasn't street smart. If he was he would have known that Hank wasn't getting out there alive because Hank knew it. Some rebel Nazi's weren't leaving a law enforcement officer alive no matter what they were offered. There thinking is they'll just kill the officer AND take the money.
most of it was predictable + already discussed before the ep dropped...the only thing I'm surprised about is walt confessing to watching the chic die...and now I'm reading walt dumbass is the reason the nazis even knew about the $$$...I'm just watching it for the action...but they have made walt's character very stupid (some are calling it "loyal") this last season
Losing the money shows that Walt wasn't street smart. If he was he would have known that Hank wasn't getting out there alive because Hank knew it. Some rebel Nazi's weren't leaving a law enforcement officer alive no matter what they were offered. There thinking is they'll just kill the officer AND take the money.
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You're out of your mind if you think walt doesn't care about Hank
he's known him for over 17 years..... that's his brother in law... they've shared all types of shit together...regardless of their flawed relationship
I definitely.. see the points about wanting hank alive because of skyler.. and keeping her in his corner . very true.... but lets say skyler was dead.. and for some reason it was just hank and walt around... in that same situation.. the way his character is written.. he doesn't plead and beg.. with all his will... and offer money for his brother in law ?
Walt is a complex Character... on hand he can order the hit of 9 men ... on the other.. hand he didn't even let junkie ass jessie get killed after all those times.. till the end .. finally after jessie was a rat and spit in his face
You're out of your mind if you think walt doesn't care about Hank
he's known him for over 17 years..... that's his brother in law... they've shared all types of shit together...regardless of their flawed relationship
I definitely.. see the points about wanting hank alive because of skyler.. and keeping her in his corner . very true.... but lets say skyler was dead.. and for some reason it was just hank and walt around... in that same situation.. the way his character is written.. he doesn't plead and beg.. with all his will... and offer money for his brother in law ?
Walt is a complex Character... on hand he can order the hit of 9 men ... on the other.. hand he didn't even let junkie ass jessie get killed after all those times.. till the end .. finally after jessie was a rat and spit in his face
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Walt isn't a street dude but he's willing to kill if it protects his family, even if that family wants to put him in jail. With the tape he chose his immediate family over Hank and Marie but was willing to give up all his money to save Hank.
Walt isn't a street dude but he's willing to kill if it protects his family, even if that family wants to put him in jail. With the tape he chose his immediate family over Hank and Marie but was willing to give up all his money to save Hank.
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Not street smart ? or thinks he can talk his way out of anything ?
Hank did know he wasn't going to live anyway.. hence him not begging .and talking shit. even after walt is saying beg..and tell them you will forget..
they knew hank wasn't that type of dea.....
I remember watching the "talking bad' basically some inside info right after the show.. think they had walt jr and of course hank was on their talking about filming etc finding out when he would die
the point was about them staying true... they said .. hanks character.. wouldn't "beg" which is very true.... ,but walt will do anything to stay alive....if you want walt to say.. I'm a bitch.. to live.. he'll do it with ease
which is true... walt is always trying to talk his way out.. hank... was on some fuck it... and then told walt you're the smartest man I ever met ,but basically called him naive...in regards to him thinking he could talk them out for money...
Not street smart ? or thinks he can talk his way out of anything ?
Hank did know he wasn't going to live anyway.. hence him not begging .and talking shit. even after walt is saying beg..and tell them you will forget..
they knew hank wasn't that type of dea.....
I remember watching the "talking bad' basically some inside info right after the show.. think they had walt jr and of course hank was on their talking about filming etc finding out when he would die
the point was about them staying true... they said .. hanks character.. wouldn't "beg" which is very true.... ,but walt will do anything to stay alive....if you want walt to say.. I'm a bitch.. to live.. he'll do it with ease
which is true... walt is always trying to talk his way out.. hank... was on some fuck it... and then told walt you're the smartest man I ever met ,but basically called him naive...in regards to him thinking he could talk them out for money...
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my exact point also hank and marie didn't give him a choice with the tape.. but that tape was to just keep things the way they're ... he didn't want them to go to jail either... he just wanted hank to "back off"
my exact point
also hank and marie didn't give him a choice with the tape.. but that tape was to just keep things the way they're ... he didn't want them to go to jail either... he just wanted hank to "back off"
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The tape was him playing Chess. He just wanted Hank to stop the investigation, which It worked at the time until "Pinkman" fucked it up.
The tape was him playing Chess. He just wanted Hank to stop the investigation, which It worked at the time until "Pinkman" fucked it up.
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Enough money is never enough. Once Todd learns the correct cooking procedure, their earning potential is unlimited with the help of that goofy bitch from Madrigal
Enough money is never enough. Once Todd learns the correct cooking procedure, their earning potential is unlimited with the help of that goofy bitch from Madrigal
$80 million that's why...
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Until next week My theory is that the other Nazi"z dont know Jessie is still alive. Todd is doing it because he has a crush on the distributor lady.
Until next week My theory is that the other Nazi"z dont know Jessie is still alive. Todd is doing it because he has a crush on the distributor lady.
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hank's discovery (combined with jesse's confession and huell's corroboration) of walt's criminal activities already EXPLODED that family, forever creating a rift between the white family and the shrader family. and thus a deep chasm between the lambert sisters.
walt may have had coincidental familial feelings for hank.
trying to keep hank alive last night (and also with the salamanca cousins) was more about sparing skyler's feelings than anything else. my take, anyway.
hank's discovery (combined with jesse's confession and huell's corroboration) of walt's criminal activities already EXPLODED that family, forever creating a rift between the white family and the shrader family. and thus a deep chasm between the lambert sisters.
walt may have had coincidental familial feelings for hank.
trying to keep hank alive last night (and also with the salamanca cousins) was more about sparing skyler's feelings than anything else. my take, anyway.
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bah.
you got bills to pay, shares to split, and a turnkey enterprise staring you in the face?
you automatically shut off a revenue stream for what?
at a MINIMUM, you videotape jesse doing a couple successful yield cooks before you close that door.
bah.
you got bills to pay, shares to split, and a turnkey enterprise staring you in the face?
you automatically shut off a revenue stream for what?
at a MINIMUM, you videotape jesse doing a couple successful yield cooks before you close that door.
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Agree to disagree... walt has been consistent with the " family" thing from the beginning .. I'd say most people would try to protect their brother in law.. outside of the it's my wifes brother aspect.. especially against outsiders and you knew him for over 17 years ?
I definitely agree that skyler plays a role in walt wanting hank alive... ,but
I mean even if skyler was dead... I believe walt would still try and do his best.. to save hank.. still would be in tears after he gets killed... would offer money to save him.. Even though the "family" wouldn't exist no more
This is pretty consistent with his character.. unless you're seeing something much deeper that I'm not seeing...
You don't try to pass off opinions as facts... much respect..
Agree to disagree... walt has been consistent with the " family" thing from the beginning .. I'd say most people would try to protect their brother in law.. outside of the it's my wifes brother aspect.. especially against outsiders and you knew him for over 17 years ?
I definitely agree that skyler plays a role in walt wanting hank alive... ,but
I mean even if skyler was dead... I believe walt would still try and do his best.. to save hank.. still would be in tears after he gets killed... would offer money to save him.. Even though the "family" wouldn't exist no more
This is pretty consistent with his character.. unless you're seeing something much deeper that I'm not seeing...
You don't try to pass off opinions as facts... much respect..
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What's dope about this show (and other quality series) is that it gets people talking & speculating. That whole "around the watercooler" talk and shit. This past episode alone (from last night) has generated 8 pages in this thread in the past 1 day alone.
What's dope about this show (and other quality series) is that it gets people talking & speculating. That whole "around the watercooler" talk and shit. This past episode alone (from last night) has generated 8 pages in this thread in the past 1 day alone.
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I thought that was him, I didnt notice him without the hat. The first episode I ever watched was when he got half his face blown off.
I thought that was him, I didnt notice him without the hat. The first episode I ever watched was when he got half his face blown off.
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