I could see that, but she's such a fucking duck I think Arya might do her just on some fuck you shit. I thought about Cersei, but she's a student of the game and the pussy is still poppin.
Game Of Thrones: The Sopranos with swords or Dynasty in chainmail?
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I could see that, but she's such a fucking duck I think Arya might do her just on some fuck you shit. I thought about Cersei, but she's a student of the game and the pussy is still poppin.
they're both birds - if Sansa is a duck then Cersei is a dodo bird...
At least Cersei is aware that the game is being played....Sansa still trying to live out a damn fairy tale. Cersei understands survival...if she goes out, I believe it will be by one of her own....Joffrey, Tyrion, Tywin....fuck...I could see Jaime doing her under the right circumstances. Sansa, on the other hand....a strong wind could take her unbeknowing ass out the game at any given moment.
So u gonna worry about pride and ego over losing half your army?
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Robb dealt with him...and he's lucky to have his uncle (Blackfish) to help him drive his points home...but Robb is exposed. His actions (marrying chick/breaking vows) lifted up his skirt to the fact that he's not as honorable as he makes out. Them ninjas in the north see that shit and it has all of them feeling some kind of way. He's smart to try to repair it, but he will never be able to fix what he broke. The north was Ned Stark's region...honor over everything...Robb's whole plight was based on honor...they made him King in the North based on honor...and he fucked it off. My hopes lie in the far south (Danarys), the far north (Jon Snow/Bran Stark), Arya and the imp.
no hate - Rob chose honor over winning... bet your ass Tywin would have kept Karstark hostage until he didn't need him anymore...
Robb's days are numbered. he has miscalculated all the way. Marrying the chick. He is a nobleman in a war. He can't be whimsical in his decision making. He let his mother off the hook. Basically, the Stark family is full of idiots except for Jon, Bran and Arya. Ned wasn't the brightest cat too. It was shown in the first episode when he beheaded the guy. He chose "honor" over information. He didn't listen to the guy's warning. Robb is following his lead. You can see the blunders that both father and son make.
This was the first thing that popped in my head while reading this question 
I think everybody is going to end up getting fucked over in one way or other.
I think everybody is going to end up getting fucked over in one way or other.
im re-watching season 1, & yeah ned was faulty as fuck!
the story has him being an idiot! bad shit started to happen the moment
the king arrived at winterfell. yet he acted is if all was well, & took his
silly ass south to kingslanding! cersi even noted to him he was just a soldier,
not a leader(his brother was raised to lead). & poor robbie didnt get good
leader aspects taught to him, only soldier ones! & he has flushed honor down the toilet!
this story reiterates over and over that those that adhere to rigid honor will get fucked.
Robb lost when he trusted Theon and lost Winterfell. You can't protect your own house we can't respect you. Then he broke his allegiance to the Frey's at the Twins. His honor that he wears so proudly is now seen as a farce. His mother letting the Kingslayer go emasculated him more... YOUR'E OWN MOTHER DOESN'T RESPECT YOU? why should we?
Here is the deal - Robb Stark cutting off Karstarks head was just as stupid as Joffery cutting off Ned's head - somehow because they arte called King by others there is a level of hubris on both of their parts.
Now Joffrey is hated so we loath his reason for cutting off Ned's head which is Ned was treasonous - even though all advised him that it was the wrong move politically because it would cause the north to attack the Kingdom - Joffrey ignored the advise and did what he pleased
On the other hand, Rob is some what loved (or at least tolerated) so his reason for cutting off Lord Karstark's head because he avenged the death of his son on the relatives of the Lannister and disobeying his orders - treason - then Rob is advised not to kill Karstark because politically he needed the army Karstark provided - Rob ignores the advise and did what he pleased -
There is no difference in action between Joffrey or Rob Stark - they both suffer from Hubris ( means extreme pride or arrogance. Hubris often indicates a loss of contact with reality and an overestimation of one's own competence or capabilities, especially when the person exhibiting it is in a position of power.)
Oh let's not forget Rob's promise to marry Lord Frey's daughter and then said nevermind - I changed my mind - Ned Stark would have whopped his ass for being that dishonorable.
Now Joffrey is hated so we loath his reason for cutting off Ned's head which is Ned was treasonous - even though all advised him that it was the wrong move politically because it would cause the north to attack the Kingdom - Joffrey ignored the advise and did what he pleased
On the other hand, Rob is some what loved (or at least tolerated) so his reason for cutting off Lord Karstark's head because he avenged the death of his son on the relatives of the Lannister and disobeying his orders - treason - then Rob is advised not to kill Karstark because politically he needed the army Karstark provided - Rob ignores the advise and did what he pleased -
There is no difference in action between Joffrey or Rob Stark - they both suffer from Hubris ( means extreme pride or arrogance. Hubris often indicates a loss of contact with reality and an overestimation of one's own competence or capabilities, especially when the person exhibiting it is in a position of power.)
Oh let's not forget Rob's promise to marry Lord Frey's daughter and then said nevermind - I changed my mind - Ned Stark would have whopped his ass for being that dishonorable.
True. Robb is an idiot and has acted VERY IRRESPONSIBLY as a king. He knows nothing! He learned nothing from all that's happened. This season HBO promised shockers and I bet we're all gonna be more shocked than when Ned Stark died.
Arya is going to be a beast when she grows up to take revenge according to the Red Priestess. She actually seemed a bit shook when she looked in Arya's eyes.
Tywin Lannister is the Sith Lord Supreme. I'll ask this again, why the fuck is he chilling at King's Landing while a war against "new kings" is being waged? He seems very unconcerned about war and more about setting his children up as chess pieces in other lands.
And I'm almost sure Varys' spies have informed him of what Dany has been doing overseas. Still, he isn't seeming concerned.
The only thing noone knows is that the Whyte Walkers are back.
Yeah, and Lord Frey REALLY wanted to be related to the Starks and get his daughter hitched. It was arranged for a minute. Robb don't think dude gonna be salty about that? Fuck marrying Uncle Edmur, he ain't a king!
These "kings" have no honor. None of them...except maybe Stanis.
didnt his moms commit treason also? why isnt her head on a platter??
^^^C/S
Oddly Ned and Lord Karstark were justified in their treasonous actions. In both scenarios the men had more value alive than beheaded
Curious; did they ever show which daughter of Frey's it was that he was supposed to marry, and if so, was she a fat ugly chick?
I can't remember exactly how she looked but she was plain looking at best.
For him to trust Theon like that is ridiculous....Catelyn tried to warned about sending Theon to the Iron Islands....
Rob is a dumb ass...
Even,his own mother told Rob not to cross Walder Frey and his dumb ass did it anwyays.....
They showed his daughters in season 1,or most of them anyways....
For real, what son doesn't listen to his mother's advice?For him to trust Theon like that is ridiculous....Catelyn tried to warned about sending Theon to the Iron Islands....
Rob is a dumb ass...
Even,his own mother told Rob not to cross Walder Frey and his dumb ass did it anwyays.....
They showed his daughters in season 1,or most of them anyways....
I agree with what someone else said. That idiot's days are numbered. He'll probably end up getting served up by his own bannermen for being a dumbass. That's about as close to getting fired on your day off as medieval times got.
At this rate this dude might as well sit on the Iron Throne...
i guess thats why back then as compared to now-a-days,
peeps had so many children. you knew if you had 6, 3-4 would be fuck ups!
i think the only ones that can restore house stark are jon, arya, & or bran!
the ones who are out on their own, learning the game of life. the always
pampered ones are getting no where rob(doesnt listen), sansa(refuses to listen). in season 1 ned said bran
might raise walls & be great like bran the builder!
peeps had so many children. you knew if you had 6, 3-4 would be fuck ups!
i think the only ones that can restore house stark are jon, arya, & or bran!
the ones who are out on their own, learning the game of life. the always
pampered ones are getting no where rob(doesnt listen), sansa(refuses to listen). in season 1 ned said bran
might raise walls & be great like bran the builder!
Edmure is the Lord of Riverrun now that his father is dead and his Uncle Blackfish doesn't want it.
The Frey's are backwards and have an inferiority complex towards the bigger houses, so which ever major house gives them the time of day they will align with
Arya is more of a fighter than a person to restore Winterfell but I could see her doing it though....
Im glad you didnt add Rickon,because he's slow as hell...He reminds me of Sansa...his ass never listens...
I could see Bran and Jon as the two people to restore Winterfell,both need experience in leadership though...
Got a new Wacom, got inspired.
If the shit I'm putting together in my mind pans out, Jon Snow and Bran Stark could be the 1-2 punch that saves the North. Seems like there's a good chance that Jon Snow is actually a Targaryan...and if he mounts a dragon, then Bran can do his Beast Master shit and control the dragon. That would make them quite the formidable duo.
Ok Im seeing a lot of post saying rob should have listend to his mother, what kind of son isnt taking the advise of his mom. Like Kat isnt the reason the god damn war started. So fuck any advise she gives. The only reason she wasnt executed was because she was his mother.
Ill admit rob did fuck up marrying old girl. Sending Theon was wrong but from his perspective. Theon was his bestfriend/brother. He would have never thought he was capable of betrayel.
I cant prove it but i belive Lord Karstark was plotting to take the throne from Rob. Rob executing him prevented a whole lot of trouble down the line. Matter of fact his last words were your no king of mine. Thats not something you just throw out in anger just because your being executed. Thats deep down true feeling comming out. months of disdain and hatred boiling over.
Ill admit rob did fuck up marrying old girl. Sending Theon was wrong but from his perspective. Theon was his bestfriend/brother. He would have never thought he was capable of betrayel.
I cant prove it but i belive Lord Karstark was plotting to take the throne from Rob. Rob executing him prevented a whole lot of trouble down the line. Matter of fact his last words were your no king of mine. Thats not something you just throw out in anger just because your being executed. Thats deep down true feeling comming out. months of disdain and hatred boiling over.
If the shit I'm putting together in my mind pans out, Jon Snow and Bran Stark could be the 1-2 punch that saves the North. Seems like there's a good chance that Jon Snow is actually a Targaryan...and if he mounts a dragon, then Bran can do his Beast Master shit and control the dragon. That would make them quite the formidable duo.
Wait, I thought all the Targaryans have white hair due to all the 'keeping the bloodline pure' incest bullshit. If anything, I've always thought Jon Snow was one of Robert's bastards.
edit: Damn, you got me really thinking about this now
I suppose Jon Snow could be half Targaryan if he was the product of Lyanna Stark being raped by Rhaegar Targaryen.^ ^ ^ ^ this makes some sense. contrary to popular belief, decisions arent good or bad based on the outcome - its based on the information you have at the time. Thats why Robb was dumb to marry that broad but not so dumb to trust Theon. Karstark had to go cuz he would be worse and worse to deal with as time go on - specially since he basically spat in Robs face with the "you aint gon do shit" speech. Better to have the Karstarks leave than sabotage you from the inside.
The whole Stark family is burdened by honor actually, cept for Rickon (seems semi retarded so far) and Sansa (head in the fucking clouds). Bran and Sansa are less burdended cuz they havent been too much influenced by family (theyre too young), but they do follow their own form of what they believe to be honor.
I say this in ignorance of the books cuz I havent read them, but it looks like this game can come down to Khaleesi vs Jon, with them both surviving. Bran + Aria restore Winterfell's glory and the dragons back on the throne with Danerys ruling with a tough but fair hand.
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yeah, remember, dark hair, dark eyes, etc, are dominant traits, so if that pairing ever happened....
Wait, I thought all the Targaryans have white hair due to all the 'keeping the bloodline pure' incest bullshit. If anything, I've always thought Jon Snow was one of Robert's bastards.
edit: Damn, you got me really thinking about this now
I don't hate Robb i love Robb. But people who have no moral compunction don't understand a character like Robb. Robb was raised by a father and by a people who believe in the rules they make are the rules they carry. They're highly moralistic. And Uncompromising in their ideals. People hate Robb because those qualities are not present in many of them today.
Robb is a throwback sort of. He's not meant for the world as it is. Robb and Ned were warriors with codes. THAT'S why people hate Robb.
Because Robb's not going to cut his mother's head off. MOST men aren't going to kill their mother unless they're mentally unstable.
If the shit I'm putting together in my mind pans out, Jon Snow and Bran Stark could be the 1-2 punch that saves the North. Seems like there's a good chance that Jon Snow is actually a Targaryan...and if he mounts a dragon, then Bran can do his Beast Master shit and control the dragon. That would make them quite the formidable duo.
I don't think so. Not Jon. I know it looks and FEELS Like Jon. But i'm thinking Bran somehow. I think Jon is going to stay NightsWatch somehow.
Wait, I thought all the Targaryans have white hair due to all the 'keeping the bloodline pure' incest bullshit. If anything, I've always thought Jon Snow was one of Robert's bastards.
edit: Damn, you got me really thinking about this now
Exactly. Look at the timeline. Rhaegar took Lyanna. Then a year later there's a baby? Which is MORE PROBABLE? Super honorable Ned Stark has a dalliance with some whore and has a baby? Or Rhaegar finally gets to Lyanna puts a kid in her, and then she makes her superhonorable brother. Promise to raise him as his own?
Cmon Son. Ned wouldn't tell the King because he'd want to kill the boy, which would break his promise to his sister? You think NED STARK Would allow that? Mannnnn i've been thinking this since book ONE!
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