Game Of Thrones: The Sopranos with swords or Dynasty in chainmail?
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Very hard to tell you without spoilers....
c/s
I wish they put alittle more emphasis on Arya's story on the show.....Her story line seems bland too me...
It dont have to be the same,but it does need to be stronger,its almost like they dont know what to do with her story....
Arya can warg, all of the Stark kids can. That part is not a spoiler.
Where in the book? I'm reading her chapter in storm of swords right now
Geist already said it
Doing what you need to do to survive as a person is MUCH different than being King and having to make lasting decisions.
You let the man get away with murder, there's consequences for that. You kill him, there's consequences for that too. He has to think what would be best for his cause, and to stay honorable and prove a point.
Much different than the option being your personal survival.
Very hard to tell you without spoilers....
c/s
I wish they put alittle more emphasis on Arya's story on the show.....Her story line seems bland too me...
It dont have to be the same,but it does need to be stronger,its almost like they dont know what to do with her story....
cause her story is TOO scary - GRRM did a great job... but its too strong for western audiences to have a child witnessing and living in the events and conditions told of in the books
If Ned wasn't a leader it was because he was always trying to be honor bound. He wasn't cold and calculating. He had a heart.
That's being shown with Robb now. He has honor but his heart also gets in the way.
Robb is still young, and again I reiterate his and Ned's circumstances are much different than Arya, Jon and Bran's.
Isn't the difference that Ned wasn't treasonous at all, and that Joffrey went back on his word, while Karstark did act treasonous- and if he hadn't possessed a large army he'd have been killed without debate?
foreshadowing from what I remember reading
So busy watching porn you don't have time to read the books or read background information. Anyone who has spent time would know why its a rumor.
The sad flaw about uber honorable persons, ( In real life also ). Is that they actually faithfully believe the rest of the world is just as honorable.
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any student of power will disagree with you... Rob broke more than 5 of the 48 laws of power... killing Karstark signaled a lack of ruthlessness... or weakness.
He isn't controlling his image or the way he is perceived - so now his honor is also called into question as being selective, he honored the girl whose virginity he took as a man but broke an oath he made as a ruler / general...
Cut all that laws of power shit out. Robb is supposed to be younger than 21 iirc.
So far all leadership has been through birth. They're just showing us that these guys are flawed and will make mistakes. That's really it.
To add, he wasn't even supposed to be King. Not yet. It was thrust upon him before he's ready. But his character has shown poise. He'll be fine.
I wasn't aware of that
Sansa's even more fucked since Lady was killed
You know what's funny? I was posting from my phone before and right after I hit reply, I thought the only one that cant warg is Sansa because her wolf was killed and ironically she's the one that everyone clowns. Also ironic her wolf tried to warn her about Joffrey from the rip.
ninjas going to come in here bitching about spoilers.
Well it's kinda not played up in the show that they all have wolf "dreams" or that Nymeria is out there fucking people's shit up with a large wolf pack. So I wouldn't count that as a spoiler.
Which would make sense if the child is Ned's sister and therefore of the same bloodline as his own. - I think after this season is over I am going to have to break down and read the books -
Man, I love how little finger broke this down
"Chaos isn't a pit...it's a ladder"
"Chaos isn't a pit...it's a ladder"
LOL- dude, you are watching the wrong show... in this show the ruthless thrive - and weak are used up or killed... no matter how young or old they may be.
Tywin Lannister's father was a fuck up that bankrupted the family. Tywin overcame that disadvantage - started as a younger man than Rob currently is in the story. Danny is younger than Rob and learning on the job, she wasn't the one groomed to rule that was her brother's role...
simply put Rob broke his word to a major ally, and then betrayed another one... fuck the details - that is the story that will spread - his word is now worth less than dirt, and his gutted army is now a joke... As for new allies? Good alliances are made from strength - Rob pissed away any value that he once had - so what kind of ally can he hope to do business with?
Peace.
No way he's ok.
Roose Bolton, who has been at every one of Rob's, " Leaked " war councils just let Jaime Lannister walk with a note, " Tell you pops it wasn't me! "
Something's rotten in denmark!
If Rob got Jaime back he could walk into kings landing with a knife at his throat and Lord Tywin Lannister of Casterly Rock would bend the knee.
But Roose just let him go.
Watch:
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Some clarification:
Region – Surname
Reach – Flowers
Westerlands – Hill
Iron Islands – Pyke
Riverlands – Rivers
Dorne – Sand
North – Snow
Vale – Stone
Stormlands – Storm
Crownlands – Waters
What you're saying, is one of the themes in the show, but another theme is not to sleep on the victims either, because they're the ones that are transformed.
Most of the real players in the show were fucked over in some way.
Robert= the king stole his woman and tried to have him killed....had to fight a bloody war.
Ned= sister was kidnapped, father and brother murdered in a horrible way, king tried to have him killed...had to fight a bloody war.
Little finger= was a small fry, couldn't get the woman he wanted because he was a small fry, almost got killed fighting for her....look at him now.
Varys= the man had his dick chopped off!
I could go on and on.....
The best scene so far this season....
I do enjoy the chess matches between Varys and Little Finger
Two of the most powerful people in Westeros and they don't even have their own army at their back.
Peace.
No way he's ok.
Roose Bolton, who has been at every one of Rob's, " Leaked " war councils just let Jaime Lannister walk with a note, " Tell you pops it wasn't me! "
Something's rotten in denmark!
If Rob got Jaime back he could walk into kings landing with a knife at his throat and Lord Tywin Lannister of Casterly Rock would bend the knee.
But Roose just let him go.
Watch:
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Very astute. You see what's coming...
I do enjoy the chess matches between Varys and Little Finger
Two of the most powerful people in Westeros and they don't even have their own army at their back.
c/s
What make them so dangerous is that nobody isnt even looking at them as a threat.......
but every victim except Ned survives by becoming utterly ruthless... one of my favorite characters in this story transforms after being taught multiple lessons on how cruel and worthless most people are...What you're saying, is one of the themes in the show, but another theme is not to sleep on the victims either, because they're the ones that are transformed.
Most of the real players in the show were fucked over in some way.
Robert= the king stole his woman and tried to have him killed....had to fight a bloody war.
Ned= sister was kidnapped, father and brother murdered in a horrible way, king tried to have him killed...had to fight a bloody war.
Little finger= was a small fry, couldn't get the woman he wanted because he was a small fry, almost got killed fighting for her....look at him now.
Varys= the man had his dick chopped off!
I could go on and on.....
On that note Joffrey's bitch ass is definately on borrowed time too then.
You know what's funny? I was posting from my phone before and right after I hit reply, I thought the only one that cant warg is Sansa because her wolf was killed and ironically she's the one that everyone clowns. Also ironic her wolf tried to warn her about Joffrey from the rip.
I don't remember how did Lady try to warn her? didn't Nymeria attack Joffery? then she said fuck this I'm hitting the forest
No way he's ok.
Roose Bolton, who has been at every one of Rob's, " Leaked " war councils just let Jaime Lannister walk with a note, " Tell you pops it wasn't me! "
Something's rotten in denmark!
If Rob got Jaime back he could walk into kings landing with a knife at his throat and Lord Tywin Lannister of Casterly Rock would bend the knee.
But Roose just let him go.
Watch:
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I thought Roose was telling Jamie to clarify to Tywin that HE didn't cut off his hand, but this shows that Roose isn't on Robb's side anymore
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I do enjoy the chess matches between Varys and Little Finger
Two of the most powerful people in Westeros and they don't even have their own army at their back.
Little Finger is VERY DANGEROUS. Why? He's a crab with ambition who was stepped on by high born people for years. I'm watching his chess moves closely. We all are caught up in who has the biggest army or who is making the most moves on the sly...aka whoever is making the most noise onscreen. But beware the quiet motherfuckas.
I didn't take it as him not being on his side anymore, I took it more as him hedging his bets because he sees Robb winning the war as a long shot so just in case he doesn't he wants to make it clear to Tywin that what happened to Jaimie wasn't his doing.
I would assume that since it was actually his men who chopped off his hand then he would be more to blame than anyone. So maybe Robb would be pissed at him being maimed since he believes they still have both his sisters and it would put them in even more danger as well as the Lannisters and he'd be the one both blamed so instead he frees Jaimie as a peace offering to Tywin which could also save him from Robbs wrath after Robb found out his men chopped his hand off.
i thought i was the only one to notice this!
homie cutting side deals, 'cause he sees whats happening.
he was supposed to return him to rob, but trying to get on tywins good
side! the starks have ALWAYS had issues in the past with the boltons(main
rivals in the north for the greatest house).
homie cutting side deals, 'cause he sees whats happening.
he was supposed to return him to rob, but trying to get on tywins good
side! the starks have ALWAYS had issues in the past with the boltons(main
rivals in the north for the greatest house).
Peace.
No way he's ok.
Roose Bolton, who has been at every one of Rob's, " Leaked " war councils just let Jaime Lannister walk with a note, " Tell you pops it wasn't me! "
Something's rotten in denmark!
If Rob got Jaime back he could walk into kings landing with a knife at his throat and Lord Tywin Lannister of Casterly Rock would bend the knee.
But Roose just let him go.
Watch:
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