Can you give me the equation for love, friendship, and do you believe in the lottery? Do you play it, is there a scientific thoery for luck or predetermining of the correct numbers to win?
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Love is an emotion, like anger, sadness, happiness.
Friendship is the bond you make with someone you like being around.
I don't play the lottery and I don't believe in luck or any superstitions for that matter.
Una Estrella!
Friendship is the bond you make with someone you like being around.
I don't play the lottery and I don't believe in luck or any superstitions for that matter.
Una Estrella!
Why don't you worry about your actual chances at salvation and future residency in heaven...
NICCA I PLAYED THE LOTTERY AND.................. NOT ONE NUMBER CAME UP I'M MAD AS HELL.
Love is a chemical imbalance in your brain. Hate and love come from the same part of your brain. Passion is the line that separates the two.
Friendship is what makes a shitty/cold world a little easier during your time here.
Lottery is a tax on poor/stupid people. Its damn near impossible to win Its just A random occurrence when people do.
I hate the word atheist. I consider myself a "Pagan" or a "hedonist"
Is it bad???
No, just saying it usually hinders you from thinking logically.
Im not involving GOD or a Higher being.
Okay if Love and Hate is a Chemical imbalance in your brain, is there an artificial external way of keeping that Imbalance in your brain constantly?
If Passion seperates the two, then how do you equate passion?
What the fuck is friendship? What is the need for a bond, is there an equation to "create" a bond?
Does this Chemical imbalance which is love, also the same for your parents and or siblings? Does the term "bond" also increase the Chemical Imbalance for this reaction called love? If your a Bi-product of your parents, after your creation, is it okay for you to relieve them of life after you have gained or surpassed the knowledge they possess?
I ask this because I am curious to the actual facts you can give me
Fuck on with this, mayne! I don't believe because I don't believe.
I don't follow organized religion because I don't "follow".
I don't need a diety to convince myself of my worth, abilities, or to pray to when i can just make shit happen for myself.
Yeah, religion is more than that, but THAT'S how I see it!
I don't follow organized religion because I don't "follow".
I don't need a diety to convince myself of my worth, abilities, or to pray to when i can just make shit happen for myself.
Yeah, religion is more than that, but THAT'S how I see it!
Great philosopher "Jon Stewart" believed there is no such thing as a non-selfish action. Sure a mother and child may have a bond for they were once "one", but most people dont realize psychologically they take care/love there kids because they are obligated, and dont want to be labeled a bad parent.
Just because syntax allows you to frame something as a question doesnt make it a pertinent one.
"What is the color of hate; what is the smell of blue..?"
By the way there is a "scientific theory" of luck.
We call it "probability" and it is math not science.
Statistical probability is at the heart of quantum mechanics and hence responsible for your being able to start these stupid innane posts with your computer (no semi conductors with p and n type dopants no computers).
Next time dont avail yourself of things you clearly don't comprehend; just stick a bone in your nose and pray to your god to put the message in our heads by magic...
"Anyone who cannot cope with mathematics is not fully human. At best he is a tolerable subhuman who has learned to wear shoes, bathe and not make messes in the house."
--Lazarus Long, "Time Enough for Love", (Robert A. Heinlein)
"What is the color of hate; what is the smell of blue..?"
By the way there is a "scientific theory" of luck.
We call it "probability" and it is math not science.
Statistical probability is at the heart of quantum mechanics and hence responsible for your being able to start these stupid innane posts with your computer (no semi conductors with p and n type dopants no computers).
Next time dont avail yourself of things you clearly don't comprehend; just stick a bone in your nose and pray to your god to put the message in our heads by magic...
"Anyone who cannot cope with mathematics is not fully human. At best he is a tolerable subhuman who has learned to wear shoes, bathe and not make messes in the house."
--Lazarus Long, "Time Enough for Love", (Robert A. Heinlein)
if you were truly interested, you would be googling info on neuroscientific discoveries on the brain, instead of asking dudes on a (mostly) porn board
Neuroscientific discoveries.
Geez this was in no way an attack or had anything to do with religion. Just research, I wanted to know what plays a part in Love and Friendship according to Atheist LOGIC . No one said the lot of you had to come off like asses.
So what is the equation?, or does it have to be a set of random events that trigger the Chemical Imbalance. Are most of you conditioned to accept or ignore this Chemical Imbalance when it occurs, can you subdue the after effects of this Imbalance's failure when the other human disputes your "bond".
What Determines a BAD parent, is there even such a thing? Is the concept of good and bad just a label to promote morality or balance? If a man or woman kills your parents because they felt their existence was not needed because the offspring was either superior or a complete failure. Would a chemical imbalance occur within you that would fabricate hatred and the notion of retaliation? But for what purpose, if that individual’s logic was indeed correct, according to a set global infrastructure of population. Or what if that man or woman was you and the Chemical Imbalance noted as Jealousy fueled your motivations enough to eliminate any possibility of a sibling surpassing you. So logic suggests you kill or reduce your possibility of being surpassed. So killing your parents is logical, b-cuz your bond is in fact nothing more than a chemical imbalance which means the idea of love is a mere fabrication that is not needed for you to evolve and stay ahead. Survival of the fittest.
Yet are you the complete failure
Geez this was in no way an attack or had anything to do with religion. Just research, I wanted to know what plays a part in Love and Friendship according to Atheist LOGIC . No one said the lot of you had to come off like asses.
So what is the equation?, or does it have to be a set of random events that trigger the Chemical Imbalance. Are most of you conditioned to accept or ignore this Chemical Imbalance when it occurs, can you subdue the after effects of this Imbalance's failure when the other human disputes your "bond".
What Determines a BAD parent, is there even such a thing? Is the concept of good and bad just a label to promote morality or balance? If a man or woman kills your parents because they felt their existence was not needed because the offspring was either superior or a complete failure. Would a chemical imbalance occur within you that would fabricate hatred and the notion of retaliation? But for what purpose, if that individual’s logic was indeed correct, according to a set global infrastructure of population. Or what if that man or woman was you and the Chemical Imbalance noted as Jealousy fueled your motivations enough to eliminate any possibility of a sibling surpassing you. So logic suggests you kill or reduce your possibility of being surpassed. So killing your parents is logical, b-cuz your bond is in fact nothing more than a chemical imbalance which means the idea of love is a mere fabrication that is not needed for you to evolve and stay ahead. Survival of the fittest.
Yet are you the complete failure
Definition of PROBABILITY
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: the quality or state of being probable
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: something (as an event or circumstance) that is probable
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a (1) : the ratio of the number of outcomes in an exhaustive set of equally likely outcomes that produce a given event to the total number of possible outcomes (2) : the chance that a given event will occur
b : a branch of mathematics concerned with the study of probabilities
Definition of SCIENTIFIC METHOD
: principles and procedures for the systematic pursuit of knowledge involving the recognition and formulation of a problem, the collection of data through observation and experiment, and the formulation and testing of hypotheses
Definition of CHANCE
1
a : something that happens unpredictably without discernible human intention or observable cause
b : the assumed impersonal purposeless determiner of unaccountable happenings : luck <an outcome decided by chance>
c : the fortuitous or incalculable element in existence : contingency
2
: a situation favoring some purpose : opportunity <needed a chance to relax>
3
: a fielding opportunity in baseball
4
a : the possibility of a particular outcome in an uncertain situation; also : the degree of likelihood of such an outcome <a small chance of success>
Its to late to have this conversation.
But I will get back with you in the morning. I will leave you with this:
Love is just an image that you have created for the other person in your mind in which they must maintain in order to sustain the "love"/ image you have created for them less it turns to hate, hate of them for not keeping that image you have created for them - Krishnamurti
Morality is just the chains inferior human beings place on superior human beings in order to protect themselves from being destroyed by them.- Friedrich Nietzsche
The scale of good and bad are to each individuals own judgement. If another man in his mind finds no wrong in taking another s life, he is no more wrong than me telling him it is wrong to do so. - Jon Stewart
But I will get back with you in the morning. I will leave you with this: Love is just an image that you have created for the other person in your mind in which they must maintain in order to sustain the "love"/ image you have created for them less it turns to hate, hate of them for not keeping that image you have created for them - Krishnamurti
Morality is just the chains inferior human beings place on superior human beings in order to protect themselves from being destroyed by them.- Friedrich Nietzsche
The scale of good and bad are to each individuals own judgement. If another man in his mind finds no wrong in taking another s life, he is no more wrong than me telling him it is wrong to do so. - Jon Stewart
Who is superior, if we cannot understand something should we try to understand it or should we ignore it and eliminate it if its purpose is deemed useless to us?
Have you ever destroyed an ant colony, did you ever consider what happened to the ants who were not killed? How about a dog? If you could actually understand or talk to animals would your stance on who is superior change? So what if there is something far more superior than us, should that which has not revealed itself to us even care about a reveal if it is advanced. Logically you would be nothing more than an inferior mite, what reason should you care if you live or die, you are dirt in the end, your carcass is meant to be devoured by the lesser of this worlds species.
Have you ever destroyed an ant colony, did you ever consider what happened to the ants who were not killed? How about a dog? If you could actually understand or talk to animals would your stance on who is superior change? So what if there is something far more superior than us, should that which has not revealed itself to us even care about a reveal if it is advanced. Logically you would be nothing more than an inferior mite, what reason should you care if you live or die, you are dirt in the end, your carcass is meant to be devoured by the lesser of this worlds species.
Existence is a cruel joke that entices with "desire"
Im glad your answering these to the best of your database. However qouting a failed species such as man,is notLogical, can the sum of these ideals be percieved as credible? Or are these authors in your cultivated society something more, ideally they are nothing more than respected pawns?
If I feel someone is nothing more than a brainless insect, should I not let them join the filth in which they will decay into. Should I even be Judged by the masses inferior rule set if I end their life line
Your use of a language dictionary proves my point. Next time find a mathematical definition of probability theory. Using language has made you think you understand things you don't really grasp..
I recommend Wolframs Mathworld; as you see the REAL definition is rather different...
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There are several competing interpretations of the actual "meaning" of probabilities. Frequentists view probability simply as a measure of the frequency of outcomes (the more conventional interpretation), while Bayesians<A chance success of small> treat probability more subjectively as a statistical procedure that endeavors to estimate parameters of an underlying distribution based on the observed distribution.
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Your use of a language dictionary proves my point. Next time find a mathematical definition of probability theory. Using language has made you think you understand things you don't really grasp..
I recommend Wolframs Mathworld; as you see the REAL definition is rather different...
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There are several competing interpretations of the actual "meaning" of probabilities. Frequentists view probability simply as a measure of the frequency of outcomes (the more conventional interpretation), while Bayesians<A chance success of small> treat probability more subjectively as a statistical procedure that endeavors to estimate parameters of an underlying distribution based on the observed distribution.
A properly normalized function that assigns a probability "density" to each possible outcome within some interval is called a probability density function<A chance success of small> (or probability distribution function), and its cumulative value (integral for a continuous distribution or sum for a discrete distribution) is called a distribution function<A chance success of small> (or cumulative distribution function).
A variate<A chance success of small> is defined as the set of all random variables<A chance success of small> that obey a given probabilistic law. It is common practice to denote a variate<A chance success of small> with a capital letter (most commonly). The set of all values thatcan take is then called the range<A chance success of small>, denoted(Evans et al. 2000, p. 5). Specific elements in the range ofare called quantiles<A chance success of small> and denoted, and the probability that a variateassumes the elementis denoted.
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man.... the key words, chance, random, varible, estimate, probability means "A GUESS"
A guess is not a fact, its a "HOPE" you cant base an equation around "HOPE" especially with radomization. The equation is Flawed, please admit it. Because your not incorparating tangables. Example I HAVE 7 COLORS, red, BLUE, YELLOW, ORANGE, PURPLE, GREEN AND BROWN. YET the person I ask is in fact color blind, so of course that person can narrow things down to maybe 4-5 colors. But those colors seem to be the same through his eyes, so he relies on chance rather than math. In other words he hopes his eyes will no lie to him. he will likely guess wrong, but he has a chance, although his choice will be random.
So anything which contains a varible. a random element, a chance cannot be proposed as fact. You can elude or theorize, play yatzee all day long. But as long as you have that varible. Your idea, your words your beliefs, your facts are nothing but a GUESS.
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It has nothing to do with creditability, it is to each his own thought processes. People read books by the people I quoted to become enlightened and help them find "their" own logical reasoning for life.
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You arguments are arguments from personal incredulity.
"I personally can't understand how science could explain 'love' or define 'chance' so therefore no one can".
Love hate or any emotion first of all is not properly defined for all observers so the question is a silly one.
But even it is were, all our emotions and senses are a result of brain states. I feel "love" because of the chemical state of my brain. My brain (and yours too I would think) are composed of the elements in the periodic table. They have/form molecular bonds based on the principles of chemistry which is underlined by quantum theory. These thing change state in time dependant ways like all atoms. How is that not explaining the brain?
I grant it is "easier" to say "I love my wife" than to explain exactly what chemical is bonding with what, and what electric impulse is firing; but in theory one could.
Just like it is easier to say " I drove to the store" than to explain the conversion of chemical energy to mechanical energy and the Newtonian apllication of forces involved in driving.
Your example with colors is also silly. do you know what color is? emission of a photon by an excited electron. I dont have to SEE the emission to tell what the spectrum is I can tell by its chemical compostion and the wave length oof the photon. And it sounds like you are unaware that visible light is not the only part of the electro magnetic spectrum. Our eyes are inefficient detectors of only a very narrow band of "light" ;so what? How do you think we detect elements in stars? And your comment about the probablity equations being wrong based on your understanding of "words" is laughable.
If you can prove and entire branch of mathematics wrong by reading an online definition in an english language dictionary please apply for the "Field Prize" in mathematics you will most definitely win and get the million dollar prize!
By the way your idea the you have to "guess" is defined in the math and realized in the collapes of the Schrodingers wave function. I think your over your head and don't know it.
Just because my dog can't tell me how the refrigerator works doesn't mean nobody can...
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Fuzzy_McNut
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Here is atheist problem....self denial self deception.
They use western white slavemater science to deceive themselves.
If god came back right now and did everything he said he would do in Matthew 25:32
And on atheist would be looking for a scientific explanation for it.
If god came down and said "im God here is proof of me" atheist would be looking for a scientific explanation for this unknown phenomenon they just seen.
They use western white slavemater science to deceive themselves.
If god came back right now and did everything he said he would do in Matthew 25:32
And on atheist would be looking for a scientific explanation for it.
If god came down and said "im God here is proof of me" atheist would be looking for a scientific explanation for this unknown phenomenon they just seen.
Fuzzy_McNut
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And after being unable to find an scientific explanation to the event they would still have faith that science would explain it in the future.
Here go Fuzzy quoting the Bible again. You stated the people I quoted as having questionable credibility, when he honors the worlds most popular non credible book. 
Fuzzy_McNut
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Brig....the Bible is one book you can't flex with.
The archeology proves it, paleontologist proves it....you can't flex with this book.
The archeology proves it, paleontologist proves it....you can't flex with this book.
You sure your a theist? You have been very respectful and kind. This data helps on many levels. One more question for you, is optimism frowned upon within the Atheist community, are the lot of you realist?
But to continue on the LOVE and friendship aspect of this post. If you perceive everything from a scientific/ logical standpoint, these Chemical Imbalances would be considered a fail.
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