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Deltronz said:
I'm pretty critical of the current WWE product, but even I found Rock's concert really entertaining.Personally, I don't want them to have any physical contact until Wrestlemania. I like the direction they're going with things in terms of build up. The Rock is unstoppable out there. I appreciate the WWE's efforts in trying to make Rock look weaker (the wrist thing for example), as even some in this thread are buying into it. But Rock's natural charisma is just powering over all that for me.
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The main complaint from last night was that Cena only got 5mins, the truth is 5 was enough for that segment because he really didn't say anything. Rock kinda repeated the same stuff as well but he's able to keep the crowd entertained. What separates the AE stars from todays stars is the fact that they know how to hold the crowd. Rock & Austin once sang to each other before Survivor Series 2001 and the crowd loved it.

The Rock & Jericho showed exactly why they're the best imo, because after jericho's promo i wanted to kick his teeth in for that smarmy face he was making. PS: I wonder what Cena's mom looks like :lol:
 
Rollie_Fingaz said:
Can the wrestlers be even more one-sided against the Rock? Even the Bellas took a shot at him. Besides Cena only has wrestling to concentrate on while the Rock has Hollywood interests.

This is almost turning into the Hogan/Piper situation where Hogan was for the "Rock and Wrestling connection", while Piper wasn't hearing that shit. The Rock should go all Hollywood and start bringing actors and shit in to side with him.
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They should be against the Rock, Cena is their guy. Rock comes in and hopefully some people will get a good Mania bonus (assuming you're even on the card) while Cena carries the ball all year long and has for years. Their loyalty should be with Cena.
Rock absolutely shouldn't bring in any celebrities or anything that would hint at him being a heel. This is a huge face vs face match and that's the best way for it to go, at least for a first match. If there's a rematch, then a turn would be necessary to keep the momentum.

Deltronz said:
I'm pretty critical of the current WWE product, but even I found Rock's concert really entertaining.Personally, I don't want them to have any physical contact until Wrestlemania. I like the direction they're going with things in terms of build up. The Rock is unstoppable out there. I appreciate the WWE's efforts in trying to make Rock look weaker (the wrist thing for example), as even some in this thread are buying into it. But Rock's natural charisma is just powering over all that for me.
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While I didn't care for the competing concerts as a concept, I also appreciate them trying to make Cena look stronger but he's not going to get half the crowd. Rock couldn't get that with Hogan ten years ago and Cena definitely isn't going to get it now.
 
Jericho "revealing" Punk's father was an alcoholic.
:lol: I think Punk just gives them old ROH storylines to use. He used that story (which is a shoot) in his feud with Raven. Not sure where that fits in a match to determine "the best in the world", though.


And welcome back Mark fucking Henry! Where have you been?

With Santino as US champ and in the middle of the Long/Laurinaitis feud, how long before we get David Otunga as US champ? Before or after Mania?
 
Upgrade Dave said:
They should be against the Rock, Cena is their guy. Rock comes in and hopefully some people will get a good Mania bonus (assuming you're even on the card) while Cena carries the ball all year long and has for years. Their loyalty should be with Cena.
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You should watch the video i posted.

Afterwards, Cena spoke to the crowd and brought Machine Gun Kelly (artist for the theme song for WrestleMania "Invincible") out to the ring. Cena announced that he wanted MGK to represent Cleveland with him for Cena's entrance at WrestleMania this year because Cleveland was such a phenomenal crowd tonight.
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GOD NO MGK IS AWFUL:angry::angry::angry:

But am i the only one who looks at this pairing as a perfect fit?:lol:
 
Upgrade Dave said:
They should be against the Rock, Cena is their guy. Rock comes in and hopefully some people will get a good Mania bonus (assuming you're even on the card) while Cena carries the ball all year long and has for years. Their loyalty should be with Cena.
Rock absolutely shouldn't bring in any celebrities or anything that would hint at him being a heel. This is a huge face vs face match and that's the best way for it to go, at least for a first match. If there's a rematch, then a turn would be necessary to keep the momentum.
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While I agree that it should be face vs. face the Rock should argue the point of, "If you were in my shoes you would have had the same thing." more. I'd also argue that Cena couldn't make the transition to movies because he sucked at it.
 
dirtyd said:
You should watch the video i posted.
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I will.

Rollie_Fingaz said:
While I agree that it should be face vs. face the Rock should argue the point of, "If you were in my shoes you would have had the same thing." more. I'd also argue that Cena couldn't make the transition to movies because he sucked at it.
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Not being able to act hasn't stopped a lot of other people from making movies and many being quite successful.
 
dirtyd said:
So he's so bad that he can't be successful at being bad:lol:
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It's like Julius Peppers when he played football and basketball for UNC. He had a much brighter future in football so he cut basketball. Cena has a much brighter future as a wrestler, even now, so why go make movies where he could fail miserably?
And considering he's still a well known name with big White boy chiseled features and muscles so he would get quite a few chances before he had to come back to wrestling.
After "Scorpion King" Rock had quite a few flops under his belt but that didn't stop the scripts from coming in.
 
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Rollie_Fingaz said:
It appears to have stopped Cena. Even he admitted it. :lol:
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Yeah but Cena, who isn't great now, admits to having been a bad wrestler during his first run as WWE champ and that didn't stop him.
This is America, sucking at something doesn't mean you don't do it. You just learn how to fool enough people into believing you don't suck (Keanu Reeves anyone?).
 
Upgrade Dave said:
Yeah but Cena, who isn't great now, admits to having been a bad wrestler during his first run as WWE champ and that didn't stop him.
This is America, sucking at something doesn't mean you don't do it. You just learn how to fool enough people into believing you don't suck (Keanu Reeves anyone?).
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Good point, but what I mean is that if Cena applied himself fulltime to acting like he did to wrestling he may become a decent action hero. That's what the Rock did. He left wrestling to act full time. Isn't the basis that the Rock left to go to Hollywood and doesn't come back? All the Rock had to say was, "I'm starring in blockbuster movies and being successful in Hollywood...something that you clearly know nothing about, Cena."

Cena seems to know where his bread is buttered and concentrated on wrestling full time. He's credited Arn Anderson for his development over the years.
 
Rollie_Fingaz said:
Good point, but what I mean is that if Cena applied himself fulltime to acting like he did to wrestling he may become a decent action hero. That's what the Rock did. He left wrestling to act full time. Isn't the basis that the Rock left to go to Hollywood and doesn't come back? All the Rock had to say was, "I'm starring in blockbuster movies and being successful in Hollywood...something that you clearly know nothing about, Cena."

Cena seems to know where his bread is buttered and concentrated on wrestling full time. He's credited Arn Anderson for his development over the years.
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:yes: But he wanted to and wants to wrestle. He's still relatively young and in his peak earning years as a wrestler.

That made me think
unless TNA and/or ROH grow by huge leaps, Cena really has nowhere to go to take a break or freshen up like Hogan or Rock or Jericho or Flair except to some other entertainment venue. He probably should start looking into that. "Celebrity Apprentice" might be a good start.
 
Upgrade Dave said:
:yes: But he wanted to and wants to wrestle. He's still relatively young and in his peak earning years as a wrestler.

That made me think
unless TNA and/or ROH grow by huge leaps, Cena really has nowhere to go to take a break or freshen up like Hogan or Rock or Jericho or Flair except to some other entertainment venue. He probably should start looking into that. "Celebrity Apprentice" might be a good start.
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Surprisingly the WWE hasn't thought about doing workout vids. I've seen Cena doing powerlifting routines on youtube. Vince and HHH are workout heads, so why not?

 
Rollie_Fingaz said:
Surprisingly the WWE hasn't thought about doing workout vids. I've seen Cena doing powerlifting routines on youtube. Vince and HHH are workout heads, so why not?

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That would be a good idea.

I think Cena should do them on his own, make his own money. Hell, it might even help get him some non-WWE movie roles. Billy Blanks got a movie just off Taebo tapes.
 
Upgrade Dave said:
It's like Julius Peppers when he played football and basketball for UNC. He had a much brighter future in football so he cut basketball. Cena has a much brighter future as a wrestler, even now, so why go make movies where he could fail miserably?
And considering he's still a well known name with big White boy chiseled features and muscles so he would get quite a few chances before he had to come back to wrestling.
After "Scorpion King" Rock had quite a few flops under his belt but that didn't stop the scripts from coming in.
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But Rock has 1 thing that Cena doesn't and that's natural talent. Rock had flops but he was still Rock, Cena isn't a big enough name for hollywood to take notice. The movie scene is dead for Cena so there's no tbd date for him to return there, i was shocked that Austin didn't get many roles especially with all the mindless beat em up flicks they produce every year.
 
Upgrade Dave said:
That would be a good idea.

I think Cena should do them on his own, make his own money. Hell, it might even help get him some non-WWE movie roles. Billy Blanks got a movie just off Taebo tapes.
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I like working out, and steroid jokes aside I want to see a person that has a limited amount of time get into the gym and maximize their workouts to get in shape. There is one clip I was looking at where they show a day ikn the life of Cena and he fit in a workout in between all the other shit that he does.
 
dirtyd said:
But Rock has 1 thing that Cena doesn't and that's natural talent. Rock had flops but he was still Rock, Cena isn't a big enough name for hollywood to take notice. The movie scene is dead for Cena so there's no tbd date for him to return there, i was shocked that Austin didn't get many roles especially with all the mindless beat em up flicks they produce every year.
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That's the thing: Austin was a bigger star with just as much natural talent as Rock and he hasn't been a huge movie star. Cena, just based off his look and name recognition to a very important demographic, would get a bunch of shots, often star vehicles, no different than singers or rappers or pro athletes. So it's only dead because he wants it to be (and I'm sure Vince has him locked into some contract with WWE Movies).
And don't knock his ability too much. He wasn't bad in his guest appearance on "Psych" last season. In the hands of the right person, much like his wrestling career, Cena could make some noise in Hollywood.
 
dirtyd said:
But Rock has 1 thing that Cena doesn't and that's natural talent. Rock had flops but he was still Rock, Cena isn't a big enough name for hollywood to take notice. The movie scene is dead for Cena so there's no tbd date for him to return there, i was shocked that Austin didn't get many roles especially with all the mindless beat em up flicks they produce every year.
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Austin is pretty much type-cast in everything. The Rock tries to expand his role and do different things. People clown him for the Tooth Fairy but it was something different.
 
Upgrade Dave said:
That's the thing: Austin was a bigger star with just as much natural talent as Rock and he hasn't been a huge movie star. Cena, just based off his look and name recognition to a very important demographic, would get a bunch of shots, often star vehicles, no different than singers or rappers or pro athletes. So it's only dead because he wants it to be (and I'm sure Vince has him locked into some contract with WWE Movies).
And don't knock his ability too much. He wasn't bad in his guest appearance on "Psych" last season. In the hands of the right person, much like his wrestling career, Cena could make some noise in Hollywood.
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So he chose to do 12 Rounds and legendary? Dude he was ok on psych but to say it's dead because he wants it to be is not being realistic. If he was getting offered big roles Vince would've locked him into a lifetime contract(which he did) and then told him to make films. Vince will never stop one of his guys from getting big time mainstream publicity, Hollywood saw they had Rock so in their minds why would they need another "wrestling guy". Keep in mind Cena looks almost identical to Mark Whalberg and since he has a lock on those action films that hinders Cena as well.

I get what you're saying but saying that his acting career is dead because he wants it to be, is like a guy saying he doesn't find beautiful women attractive:lol:
 
dirtyd said:
So he chose to do 12 Rounds and legendary? Dude he was ok on psych but to say it's dead because he wants it to be is not being realistic. If he was getting offered big roles Vince would've locked him into a lifetime contract(which he did) and then told him to make films. Vince will never stop one of his guys from getting big time mainstream publicity, Hollywood saw they had Rock so in their minds why would they need another "wrestling guy". Keep in mind Cena looks almost identical to Mark Whalberg and since he has a lock on those action films that hinders Cena as well.

I get what you're saying but saying that his acting career is dead because he wants it to be, is like a guy saying he doesn't find beautiful women attractive:lol:
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You really think if John Cena, the top wrestling star for half a decade now, decided "I'm going to do movies" he wouldn't get several shots to succeed? There would be nothing to keep someone from casting him in a "John Carter" type, big sci-fi/action/adventure type movie similar to how Rock started with "The Mummy Returns" and "Scorpion King", where the movie franchise is the draw and not the actor. He's a bigger, younger version of Mark Wahlberg, who himself only got a shot because he had fame as a (bad) rapper. Talent is way down on the list of considerations when it comes to casting movies.
He did those two movies because Vince wanted him to and he's a company guy. Vince will stop (or undercut) his people from gettting mainstream pub is he isn't in control or doesn't get a cut like he did Mickie James and her country album and Chris Jericho when he got his game show gig.
 
Upgrade Dave said:
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You really think if John Cena, the top wrestling star for half a decade now, decided "I'm going to do movies" he wouldn't get several shots to succeed? There would be nothing to keep someone from casting him in a "John Carter" type, big sci-fi/action/adventure type movie similar to how Rock started with "The Mummy Returns" and "Scorpion King", where the movie franchise is the draw and not the actor. He's a bigger, younger version of Mark Wahlberg, who himself only got a shot because he had fame as a (bad) rapper. Talent is way down on the list of considerations when it comes to casting movies.
He did those two movies because Vince wanted him to and he's a company guy. Vince will stop (or undercut) his people from gettting mainstream pub is he isn't in control or doesn't get a cut like he did Mickie James and her country album and Chris Jericho when he got his game show gig.
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Dave do you really think wrestling is as popular now as it was when Rock & Austin were on top? Keep in mind UFC fighters are getting roles that wrestlers used to get now. Cena starred in Fred the movie because it's who he is now, we knew Hogan's movie career was over when he did Mr. Nanny:smh: If Hollywood was really interested in Cena then he would be doing movies, don't let that i want to be a wrestler mantra blind you from the truth. Rock did those goofy movies to branch out to a wider audience but he did Fast 5 when he was ready to be an action star again.

Side Note: Cameron = :hulksmash: No pull out
 
dirtyd said:
Dave do you really think wrestling is as popular now as it was when Rock & Austin were on top? Keep in mind UFC fighters are getting roles that wrestlers used to get now. Cena starred in Fred the movie because it's who he is now, we knew Hogan's movie career was over when he did Mr. Nanny:smh: If Hollywood was really interested in Cena then he would be doing movies, don't let that i want to be a wrestler mantra blind you from the truth. Rock did those goofy movies to branch out to a wider audience but he did Fast 5 when he was ready to be an action star again.
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Wrestling doesn't need to be as popular as it was during the Attitude Era. Raw is still the highest rated show on cable most weeks and Cena is the star of that show. He is no different than any other pro athlete/entertainer in that he has something movie producers covet: a built-in audience that they hope will come see their movie.
NeNe Leakes had little acting experience but because she's the de facto lead of "Real Housewives of Atlanta" she got "Celebrity Apprentice" and now "Glee" based totally on her celebrity and Cena is at least as well known as she is.
You do know Hogan had some of his biggest years and main events after "Mr Nanny".

Side Note: Cameron = :hulksmash: No pull out
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I'm definitely going to disagree with you here.





I'm pulling out and skeeting all over her ass.:D
If Naomi wasn't so fucking awesomely hot, Cameron would get more attention.
 
Anyone noticed there is like 20min of actual wrestling in the 2 hr show lol all they do is talk... It's becoming a soap opera haha....


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TonyNJ1208 said:
Anyone noticed there is like 20min of actual wrestling in the 2 hr show lol all they do is talk... It's becoming a soap opera haha....


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That's what they do when they're building up Mania so most people have gotten used to it. If you want wrestling from the national companies check out Impact! and Smackdown.
 
TonyNJ1208 said:
Anyone noticed there is like 20min of actual wrestling in the 2 hr show lol all they do is talk... It's becoming a soap opera haha....


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Yeah, and it's 20 min of BAD WRESTLING at that... pathetic!:angry::smh::smh::smh:
 
Wrestling doesn't need to be as popular as it was during the Attitude Era. Raw is still the highest rated show on cable most weeks and Cena is the star of that show. He is no different than any other pro athlete/entertainer in that he has something movie producers covet: a built-in audience that they hope will come see their movie.
NeNe Leakes had little acting experience but because she's the de facto lead of "Real Housewives of Atlanta" she got "Celebrity Apprentice" and now "Glee" based totally on her celebrity and Cena is at least as well known as she is.
You do know Hogan had some of his biggest years and main events after "Mr Nanny".
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Nene Leaks is your ace in the hole:hmm: She became famous for being an embarrassment to black women:smh: I do know that Hogan big years afterwards but Mr. Nanny signaled the end of his chances of being a big time actor.


I'm definitely going to disagree with you here.





I'm pulling out and skeeting all over her ass.:D
If Naomi wasn't so fucking awesomely hot, Cameron would get more attention.
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I get the feeling that Naomi might not be into dudes, but she still has a nice phatty:yes:
 
The Pope said:
I remember when WWE actually had Zeus wrestling to help promote the movie
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Shit... Zeus was no joke! Hogan and the other wrestlers used to catch hell from him back in the day, lol!:yes::yes::yes:
 
dirtyd said:
Nene Leaks is your ace in the hole:hmm: She became famous for being an embarrassment to black women:smh: I do know that Hogan big years afterwards but Mr. Nanny signaled the end of his chances of being a big time actor.
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Nene is actually a perfect example to my point. She has even less celebrity than John Cena but she gets chances outside that show based solely on that. Rock didn't get "The Mummy Returns" because he was a great actor but based solely on his name and physique (he didn't even talk in "TMR").
Hogan is another great example. All of his movies flopped but he still got several more and a tv show. Cena, were he to decide to go that route, would get at least that. Even with all his flops, "The Marine" is more successful than anything Hogan or Austin did.
 
Upgrade Dave said:
Nene is actually a perfect example to my point. She has even less celebrity than John Cena but she gets chances outside that show based solely on that. Rock didn't get "The Mummy Returns" because he was a great actor but based solely on his name and physique (he didn't even talk in "TMR").
Hogan is another great example. All of his movies flopped but he still got several more and a tv show. Cena, were he to decide to go that route, would get at least that. Even with all his flops, "The Marine" is more successful than anything Hogan or Austin did.
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Financially eh 20mil budget 22mil box office. It made more but give me Suburban Commando over any wwe film any day:yes:

"You're a dead man Ramsey" :lol: Can't believe Taker agreed to that.
 
dirtyd said:
Financially eh 20mil budget 22mil box office. It made more but give me Suburban Commando over any wwe film any day:yes:

"You're a dead man Ramsey" :lol: Can't believe Taker agreed to that.
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Man the Undertaker has been in some strange shit




*edit* nevermind thats The Underfaker.
 
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