Earlier when I suggested that you'd been hit before you denied it. Now you say you have? You make up shit just for the sake of argument.
Mcdonalds Incident.... Self defense???
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Earlier when I suggested that you'd been hit before you denied it. Now you say you have? You make up shit just for the sake of argument.
He retreated. He was around the corner. Had the attackers left this doesn't happen.
And you are correct. We are targets. We are killed at the highest level in this country by people who look like us. We cannot take chances. If people are acting batshit, you have to put them down. The police weren't going to respond in time. The police are useless.
I assume you haven't been in a situation where you had to defend yourself. I think that is why you think the way you do. Trust me, when it comes to defending yourself you have to REACT. You have a split second to "think" about what you are going to do.
When they jumped the counter and attacked him what would you prefer him to do? Say"stop! I must ask you your intentions. After which I will frisk you to make sure that you are not carrying any weapons. Please sign this waiver saying you will not pick up any weapons while trying to attack me at my place of work!"
I wonder what you would have done had they chased you to the back of your workplace? Break with the Buddha speak or defend yourself from physical attack.
Those 2 scums of the earth animals had no business jumping behind the counter on some SHE-RA bullshit. They were looking for trouble and got more than they bargained for. I have zero sympathy for foolish behavior. Interestingly, on another messageboard (and according to someone who works at the hospital they were admitted), the butch lied to police and told them that she was breaking up a fight
and gave a fake name yet a few are ironing their capes for these retarded carpet munchers 
Because you keep stating on how people should act. Tell us how you would react when chased into a corner. It's a simple question. What would you have done?
You assumed. I was beaten, by a man no less. In my view. Beaten is what that guy did to them in this video. In my understanding, beaten is repeated blows to the person by another person.
A slap does not constitute a beating. You believe that a slap. 1 slap. Is a beating? We have different views of this word.
LoneStar29
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Yes you did hit a nerve ... I've always been very respectful towards you ... there was absolutely NO reason for you to come at me sideways
You're an old crusty bitch trying "fit in" and get props from random losers online
Why worry about my child when you have a husband and kids to worry about yourself??? YOU are on here as well instead living your fabulous loving life
Or so you claim ... I doubt you even have a husband.... anyone can be anything online
You're probably some 300 pound buck toothed pigeon toed slut
LOL @ that last line ... aint nobody scared of your old raggedy retarded bandwagon jumping ass ... I dont leave room for error unlike those mcdonalds heffas
LoneStar29
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Me coming in and stating my opinion was in no way sideways ... my initial response was no different than the males who came in and agreed with me ... I was cool for many pages while mofos called me names cuz my opinion was different so please spare me
I am saying people should defend themselves. Just answer the rather simple question. Control doesn't get much better than retreating. But then the threat follows you. Now what? Simply answer.
So to you, him controlling himself was walking away to get a weapon? I disagree with this. I don't think that was evidence of self control at all. Personally speaking.
Apparently youre the one out of touch with reality,the sky must be pink in your world.
you cant even understand the concept of being with your ploar opposite and you going to speak on reality..confused one aren't you.
without individuals there is no collective society.you understand that.
Apparently youre the one out of touch with reality,the sky must be pink in your world.
you cant even understand the concept of being with ploar opposite and you going to speak on reality..confused one aren't you.
without individuals there is no collective society.you understand that.
When speaking of the society at large you're not speaking of 1 or 2 individuals. You can understand that? You're speaking of the collective ENTITY. Which is society.
Well i am anyway.
Again, you retreat from a situation and your attackers pursue, what are you going to do? What is self-control to you? Curling up like a fetus on the floor and letting them kick you?
Self control was him not engaging in argument with them. He didn't turn violent until they did.
No jumped counter, no (justified) ass whooping.
we are speaking of 3 individuals here.
youre throwing in silly notions which has nothing to do with the issue at hand.
Every thing you've been trying to add this whole time is a silly notion. And i'm not talking about these 3 silly individuals. I'm talking about the belief that people need to control themselves. That's as a whole. Which you disagree with. Maintaining control of one's self at all times is a belief isn't shared on this board i understand. At least by several members in this thread.
This is an asinine statement. That's like saying. Just because someone is attacking your family. Doesn't mean you should respond to that threat.You should maintain control. We are humans and not robots.
There's ALL of this.^^^^^^^^^
THEN, she agreed with Ironman . . . here. [Screen Capture from an earlier page in THIS thread.]
And if she "respectfully agreed" with him, how does this thread not end? Ironman's ONLY point of challenge in his comment, that the majority DISAGREE with, is that the 'cashier' should do time. And even THEN . . . it's because of the message HE thinks it would send, NOT on the grounds of justice.
. . . Additionally, the GLARING fact that at NO POINT IN THIS ENTIRE THREAD did she characterize those FEMALE ATTACKERS in the pejorative manner she laid on the 'cashier' (i.e. "Animal") . . . And if you find ANY justice in the 'cashiers' actions . . . then comes the personal attacks on your manhood. Ridiculous.
Pull the plug on this thread . . . and the double standard concept that perpetuates this silly illusion that women shouldn't be held to the SAME standards as men in the eyes of justice . . . or shouldn't be held to suffer the consequences of their actions.
JG
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LoneStar29
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@ the screencaps who knew an opposing opinion meant this much to some of you
wow
very lame
Dont be silly,what youre saying makes little sense,most people in life have amazing control,or we would all be robbers,or violent maniacs walking around committing crimes etc..so what you are saying here is irrelevant,nonsensical dont require much of a response.
Do you think that the females had any self control in this situation?
Do you believe in life sometimes you have to swing a sword and being diplomatic wont cut it?
Let me show you how to properly ask this type of question if you really want an answer.
The other stuff you say? Is trying to provoke. I already know where this line of "hey what would you do in this situation", questioning goes. Nowhere. Because you're not really asking it to gain knowledge of me. Or knowledge of my ideas or thoughts. Which is why usually i really try not to say what my personal feelings are on subjects. Because it makes people feel threatened. There's also the whole thought process with men "hey that's a woman and she's not agreeing with me, i don't understand why so let me attack her and try to beat her instead!".
When does a person STOP becoming responsible for their actions to you? Like do you believe when people say, "if you do this i am no longer responsible for my actions"? Do you believe that's really viable?
who knew an opposing opinion meant this much to some of you
wow
very lame
gene's views interest me. I think he's probably the only 1 around here who doesn't really sink to name calling and trying to insult you when he can't really keep up. He's a little condescending but so am i. He "fights" by trying to corner you into something by asking overtly charged questions. It may be him that caught me into revealing my personal feelings on this matter in the first place. I don't remember.
She liked him because he seemed pretty interested in black people and their welfare. But his line of thinking here i'm confused by. It almost seems as if the desire to beat women overrides anything rational. But i'm interested in seeing how he explains it.
I like when they do this though. It's good to see just how oddly they think from other men i miss. Did you like Drayonis' definition of being beaten? Dude just made up a whole new definition. lol
IDK why but I can't stop laughing at this.
What's life without a little fun?Nothing yet. Papi said he checked the file and the guy still has a court appointed.
I don't attack posters. I attack their flawed arguments.
Wow...I will just agree to disagree with you. You are not making any sense. When I ask "what would you do?", about your home, you said dogs would get them. Now you can't answer the question. Funny.
And the correct line of thinking is "if you do this, I do not know where your actions may lead."
Victims have every right to self-defense. You'd probably be screaming something else if this was a female, so I just will agree to disagree.
See gene. This is flaw. No matter what i say when it comes to personal questions? You're not going to think it's true. Or good enough. I've said before about what i think about women attacking people. I said it in this thread. BUT to you, in your mind. "You'd probably be screaming something else if this was a female". gene you don't know me to say something like that. AND you haven't asked me. AND you really don't CARE to. You're perfectly content in making things fit how you want them to fit. Which is why i don't like discussing personal views on these types of situations.
If You believe that maintaining self control and adhering to personal responsibility is flawed? Yeah. I fundamentally disagree with that.
Women Beaten by McDonald's Cook Verbally Attacked Workers, Witness Says
"MANHATTAN CRIMINAL COURT — A woman seen in a shocking video being beaten at a West Village McDonald's by an employee sparked the fight by hurling racist and profane insults at two staffers before the violent altercation, a witness testified on Tuesday.
McDonald's cashier Michael Joseph, 18, said customer Denise Darbeau, 24, became enraged when a cashier named "Junior" took her $50 bill to the manager's office to confirm its authenticity before allowing her to pay for her meal.
"Bitch ass n--ga, checking my money like it's fake," Darbeau taunted the cashier, according to Joseph's testimony at Tuesday's brief hearing in Manhattan Criminal Court during which a judge decided whether McIntosh would be held on bail while prosecutors seek an indictment."
"The defendant could have handled the situation in a manner which did not lead him to repeatedly strike Ms. Darbeau and Ms. Edwards," Mendoza added.
But McIntosh's attorney, Theodore Herlich, argued Tuesday that it was a case of self-defense, as his actions were clearly intended to defend himself against a pair of women out to attack him.
"It's very clear [the two women] were coming after my client, who had in effect retreated to the rear part [of the kitchen] and was not seeking a confrontation," Herlich said, adding that his client didn't know if the women were armed at the time."
Read more: http://www.dnainfo.com/20111018/gre...y-attacked-workers-witness-says#ixzz1bCSVwfp7
"MANHATTAN CRIMINAL COURT — A woman seen in a shocking video being beaten at a West Village McDonald's by an employee sparked the fight by hurling racist and profane insults at two staffers before the violent altercation, a witness testified on Tuesday.
McDonald's cashier Michael Joseph, 18, said customer Denise Darbeau, 24, became enraged when a cashier named "Junior" took her $50 bill to the manager's office to confirm its authenticity before allowing her to pay for her meal.
"Bitch ass n--ga, checking my money like it's fake," Darbeau taunted the cashier, according to Joseph's testimony at Tuesday's brief hearing in Manhattan Criminal Court during which a judge decided whether McIntosh would be held on bail while prosecutors seek an indictment."
"The defendant could have handled the situation in a manner which did not lead him to repeatedly strike Ms. Darbeau and Ms. Edwards," Mendoza added.
But McIntosh's attorney, Theodore Herlich, argued Tuesday that it was a case of self-defense, as his actions were clearly intended to defend himself against a pair of women out to attack him.
"It's very clear [the two women] were coming after my client, who had in effect retreated to the rear part [of the kitchen] and was not seeking a confrontation," Herlich said, adding that his client didn't know if the women were armed at the time."
Read more: http://www.dnainfo.com/20111018/gre...y-attacked-workers-witness-says#ixzz1bCSVwfp7
Peep this. I understand what you said in the bold up there....
But dig this...
You wont no how you will react when you're tested.
The bigger the threat, the bigger the reaction.
It's easy to judge someone's actions when you're not in theyre shoes.
I dont expect the highest level of action from people in every situation.
I dont know what this dude has been through where he reacts the way he does.
And neither do you. So to say how the law will handle it is one thing....
But you're making judgements. THATS what Im speaking on.
All I saw was a dude do what I guess HE thought HE had to do in HIS situation.
PS... I'm jumpin in here late, thats why I asked what I asked, you set it straight
somewhat, But what I said above still applies.
You think Im just speaking on today...
Im saying. I havent even read this whole thread. Im speaking on past arguements.
Dont get upset with me cuz I have no issue with you.
But Ive seen instances where you get into it with dudes and you DO come sideways.
Excessive?
That dude went Raphie on those hoodrats. Set that man free and give him Red Ryder BB gun.
That dude went Raphie on those hoodrats. Set that man free and give him Red Ryder BB gun.
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