Mcdonalds Incident.... Self defense???

[BKF]

I aint gonna lie, homie did go over board. It was like he was trying to murder them broads. I really believe I can defend myself without a weapon against two broads. Three might be a problem, but cuzzo didn't have to use a steel rod or whatever that thing was. Just nice hand work could have flattened both of them without giving them cracked skulls.

You meet force with an even greater force. He could have tried the hand thing but one of them could have a weapon on them or picked one up. He gave them no opportunity for either and that is why he kept them down.

 

[code_pirahna]

If she had the lack of thinking....to jump over the counter....

you can t put anything past her including a weapon....

had those been two pitbulls coming would it be any different.....

no.

 

[jasonblacc]

You can tell the pussies in this thread.

 

[TheAlias]

Hate to say, but if he were older or a different ethnic background, he would be hailed as a hero for going against those hood boogers with a daytime media tour intact. But since he is a young black man, he is being viewed as an even greater aggressor, although he was attacked first. Pains me to say that. But hey, that's America for ya.

 

[FIVEFIVE]

Hol up....

Im late.....

Legacy in here saying this dude is wrong????

WHY AM I NOT SHOCKED????

 

[Rock'Em Sock'Em Jones]

I aint gonna lie, homie did go over board. It was like he was trying to murder them broads. I really believe I can defend myself without a weapon against two broads. Three might be a problem, but cuzzo didn't have to use a steel rod or whatever that thing was. Just nice hand work could have flattened both of them without giving them cracked skulls.

You meet force with an even greater force. He could have tried the hand thing but one of them could have a weapon on them or picked one up. He gave them no opportunity for either and that is why he kept them down.

See this is what people aren't getting. This is not a fairy tale, perfect ending scenario. This is a street, instincts taking over, protect myself by any means type of scenario.

The thing is, maybe his "hand work" is weak. Maybe he can't fight worth a damn and he knows it. Maybe he's flat out crazy and prone to extreme violence. Hell, maybe he's a flat out pussy and he knows it which may be the reason he went for a weapon. Who the fuck knows...

AND THAT IS WHY YOU DON'T FUCK WITH PEOPLE OVER STUPID SHIT B/C YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE CAPABLE OF OR WHAT THEY MIGHT RESORT TO.

Was he excessive? Maybe so. But that's the risk you take when you go jumping over counters over dumb shit.

Will he go to jail? Maybe so, maybe not. Even if he does, will that erase or make up for the fact that you got your skull cracked and possible brain damage. NO!

 

[gene cisco]

You meet force with an even greater force. He could have tried the hand thing but one of them could have a weapon on them or picked one up. He gave them no opportunity for either and that is why he kept them down.

People acting like self-defense means you have to break your hands on someones skull. Do I or anyone who is attacked owe my attackers a sanctioned boxing match? Hell no. I don't know what diseases a person may be carrying. I can try to subdue them and the fuck bites me.

On those prison documentaries, I see guards doing the same shit he did. They are never charged. Stay the fuck down.

 

[code_pirahna]

Hate to say, but if he were older or a different ethnic background, he would be hailed as a hero for going against those hood boogers with a daytime media tour intact. But since he is a young black man, he is being viewed as an even greater aggressor, although he was attacked first. Pains me to say that. But hey, that's America for ya.

um....church

 

[Count23]

aaannd the merry go round starts back up again...

 

[simonmarcel]

Dude was banging out RBI's......Real Bad Injuries.

 

[gene cisco]

aaannd the merry go round starts back up again...

It's funny. I would say over 90 percent of the comments that I've seen on the internet support this guy. Any competent defense lawyer should be able to get him off with a jury trial.

 

[BKF]

People acting like self-defense means you have to break your hands on someones skull. Do I or anyone who is attacked owe my attackers a sanctioned boxing match? Hell no. I don't know what diseases a person may be carrying. I can try to subdue them and the fuck bites me.

On those prison documentaries, I see guards doing the same shit he did. They are never charged. Stay the fuck down.

The one thing that is not talked about is how both of these dykes had the opportunity to flee when they were met with force. Neither did.

 

[FIVEFIVE]

see this is what people aren't getting. This is not a fairy tale, perfect ending scenario. This is a street, instincts taking over, protect myself by any means type of scenario.

The thing is, maybe his "hand work" is weak. Maybe he can't fight worth a damn and he knows it. Maybe he's flat out crazy and prone to extreme violence. Hell, maybe he's a flat out pussy and he knows it which may be the reason he went for a weapon. Who the fuck knows...

and that is why you don't fuck with people over stupid shit b/c you don't know what they are capable of or what they might resort to.

was he excessive? Maybe so. But that's the risk you take when you go jumping over counters over dumb shit.

Will he go to jail? Maybe so, maybe not. Even if he does, will that erase or make up for the fact that you got your skull cracked and possible brain damage. No!

/thread.

 

[Count23]

It's funny. I would say over 90 percent of the comments that I've seen on the internet support this guy. Any competent defense lawyer should be able to get him off with a jury trial.

I guess those people as well as us are just callous monsters who were glad to see these women "put in their place."

 

[LoneStar29]

Cocoa and i were never WITH in order for either of us to "turn" on. As a matter of fact. If you're looking at the thread. Or looked at past post history(which i don't expect any rational person to do.) But if you were so inclined. You could look up the posts to Lone and Coco, And see that they've never really had any type of negative interaction with 1 another. Untl Coco threw her jabs at Lone. You can disagree with people without trying to throw them under the boss. You can keep silent. I see threads and posts of other posters attacking others all the time. And it could very well be unprovoked. Just because i may not personally like the guy? I can comment and answer a question without trying to throw jabs at someone else.

Like I said before that old bitch was just looking for e-props ... thats why she picked a fight, made a rant then pussied her way out of the thread on some "I'm too mature" shit ... if the old bitch was so mature she wouldnt have picked the fight to begin with. She just felt bold to start shit in here since she already saw everyone else going at my throat

She's a dumb cunt and will get hers in due time.....

You agreed it was excessive. And at least 20 other men in here have agreed it was excessive. It's not just Lone and i. That's another 1 of the things that makes me laugh about this thread. It's made to look like we're the only 2 who think this. Like we're the ONLY 2 who share this idea.

Because on here its only an issue when women have the opposite or a strong point of view

Notice how they disagree with us by calling us names yet the men who they disagree with they can debate respectfully

These guys are pussies and old hoes on here encourage this fuckery

 

[Drayonis]

She's a dumb cunt and will get hers in due time.....

You are an evil spiteful person.

 

[LoneStar29]

You are an evil spiteful person.

And you're not???

LMAO

you follow me into EVERY thread calling me and my son names and trying to rally other people to bash me for yeeeeeears

That bitch is gonna get hers...and so will you... I guarantee this

 

[WhenTheGoingGetsTtuff]

Hol up....

Im late.....

Legacy in here saying this dude is wrong????

WHY AM I NOT SHOCKED????

No. She's not. And never has.

 

[WhenTheGoingGetsTtuff]

With the homicide rate so fucking high, valuing our future takes on a whole different meaning for black men. The man exhibited self-restraint until he retreated and was chased. Perhaps him retreating(which was probably taken as a bitch move by his assailants) actually made them bolder.

Yes it does take on a whole different meaning. It means you should be MUCH MORE AWARE.

There are just too many people like him who retreated, were then pursued, and then ended up fucked up. Thankfully it wasn't another innocent victim that ended up with the broken arm and brain damage.

I wonder why the person who struck him wasn't charged with assault? This country is backasswards. I bet if any black man slaps a cashier at McDonald's we are facing an assault charge.

Probably are. You probably would. Things are not fair. They're not equal. You won't get treated equally. KNOWING this, you disregard that knowledge and still go into situations getting fucked up in the game. And then think all of a sudden the world should be fair?

I know men who teach their sons that the world isn't fair. And it's not going to treat them equally. They are considered below and they are marked targets because of their skin color and sex. They are more of a marked target by the clothes they wear. And how they engage in public. They are marked even MORE by how they respond to other stimulus. And these men teach their children self control. Self restraint. They do this so that their children don't become AS marked. Because they want their children to live.

This cashier wasn't taught those things. And now look at him. He's probably sitting there blaming everyone else but himself. This chick slapped him in the face and he's just trying to do his fucking job. The penitTAINTery(as they say here in texas) must not have been that scarring of a place to him. Because like an animal all he did is react.

I once heard something, you can be the dragon or you can be the tiger. The tiger reacts. It does nothing but react to stimulus. It does not think. It doesn't plan. The tiger is easily controlled. It is a ferocious beast. Or you can be the dragon. Who is thinking. It plans. It considers it's actions. I wish we had a lot more dragons.

 

[cocobeauty]

And you're not???

LMAO

you follow me into EVERY thread calling me and my son names and trying to rally other people to bash me for yeeeeeears

That bitch is gonna get hers...and so will you... I guarantee this

I must of really stuck a nerve, because all you can say is how you're going to get me old hoe, ancient pussy, etc..I'm going to get mine. A lot of name calling....

Eprops???? See my old ass don't come online for validation, hence the breast pics of you that you posted then cried about, so I don't need eprops, whatever the fuck that is. I've been here for 10 years and haven't done half the shit you have come on here with. Eprops....that's not even some shit I say, but again do you. Your threats don't mean shit to me, what are you going to do, post a picture?

By the way, where is your son? have you even fed him today...shit do you even work...you get mad, but you do spend too much time on here. I see I've raised your blood pressure quite high. Nothing worse than a young girl so bitter, and yet you're raising a black man.....wow!

While you're digging up shit, be careful with that, just like the dykes, you never know who you fucking with.

 

[FIVEFIVE]

Like I said before that old bitch was just looking for e-props ... thats why she picked a fight, made a rant then pussied her way out of the thread on some "I'm too mature" shit ... if the old bitch was so mature she wouldnt have picked the fight to begin with. She just felt bold to start shit in here since she already saw everyone else going at my throat

She's a dumb cunt and will get hers in due time.....



Because on here its only an issue when women have the opposite or a strong point of view

Notice how they disagree with us by calling us names yet the men who they disagree with they can debate respectfully

These guys are pussies and old hoes on here encourage this fuckery

Lone, I don't know if I ever had an issue with you on here, but the reason you women

get approached different is because of the tactics y'all tend to resort to in intelligent

discussions. It pisses dudes off, and insults our intelligence at times.


When dudes go sideways they get the same treatment.

No. She's not. And never has.

You talking in 3rd person now?

Whats next? Can I smell what "The Rock" is cooking?


Realize that even if you're saying dude was excessive, you're saying he's wrong.

and if you're doing that, you're buggin.

 

[WhenTheGoingGetsTtuff]

Well am speaking to YOU,we/him/you makes up society.
when you put bullshit there you will get checked.
whats with you new age lesbians?

second he didnt kill her.
third sometimes depending on the shituation its you or them.

quit acting self righteous.

and i will be checking you again keep it up.

What color is the sky in your world where you believe that you're CHECKING anyone? You don't have the mental ability to CHECK anyone. We as society speaks to the idea of the whole. Understand that.

Focus. I know it's hard in pretend land where you think the rules bend to what you wish them to be.

 

[Darrkman]

This cashier wasn't taught those things. And now look at him. He's probably sitting there blaming everyone else but himself. This chick slapped him in the face and he's just trying to do his fucking job. The penitTAINTery(as they say here in texas) must not have been that scarring of a place to him. Because like an animal all he did is react.

I once heard something, you can be the dragon or you can be the tiger. The tiger reacts. It does nothing but react to stimulus. It does not think. It doesn't plan. The tiger is easily controlled. It is a ferocious beast. Or you can be the dragon. Who is thinking. It plans. It considers it's actions. I wish we had a lot more dragons.

I gotta disagree with you. Its easy to say everything you said in HINDSIGHT. Hindsight is 20/20. Are you sure that in that same situation you wouldn't of reacted the exact same way??

Oh and your quote about tigers and dragons is from the movie The Perfect Weapon.

 

[WhenTheGoingGetsTtuff]

I gotta disagree with you. Its easy to say everything you said in HINDSIGHT. Hindsight is 20/20. Are you sure that in that same situation you wouldn't of reacted the exact same way??

Oh and your quote about tigers and dragons is from the movie The Perfect Weapon.

I'm positive i would've reacted with THOUGHT instead of reacting. I've been slapped before. And it was publically. And i balled up my fists. And bit my tongue down because i wanted to go crazy. But i was at work. And i didn't want to lose my job. My job and future career was more important tome at that time than KEEPING IT REAL. I'm POSITIVE some of the men i know would've reacted with THOUGHT instead of reacting with "instinct". They think of what they have to lose when they are confronted. And they know how the world works. So when they do things they know that odds are? The reality of the situation is they're going to be the ones under the thumb of the system. I know my words don't matter to anyone here. The people i'm currently responding too believe that the world will treat them fairly on the battlefield of life.

I don't know about a movie. The guy who said it was an older asian man.

 

[gene cisco]

Yes it does take on a whole different meaning. It means you should be MUCH MORE AWARE.



Probably are. You probably would. Things are not fair. They're not equal. You won't get treated equally. KNOWING this, you disregard that knowledge and still go into situations getting fucked up in the game. And then think all of a sudden the world should be fair?

I know men who teach their sons that the world isn't fair. And it's not going to treat them equally. They are considered below and they are marked targets because of their skin color and sex. They are more of a marked target by the clothes they wear. And how they engage in public. They are marked even MORE by how they respond to other stimulus. And these men teach their children self control. Self restraint. They do this so that their children don't become AS marked. Because they want their children to live.

This cashier wasn't taught those things. And now look at him. He's probably sitting there blaming everyone else but himself. This chick slapped him in the face and he's just trying to do his fucking job. The penitTAINTery(as they say here in texas) must not have been that scarring of a place to him. Because like an animal all he did is react.

I once heard something, you can be the dragon or you can be the tiger. The tiger reacts. It does nothing but react to stimulus. It does not think. It doesn't plan. The tiger is easily controlled. It is a ferocious beast. Or you can be the dragon. Who is thinking. It plans. It considers it's actions. I wish we had a lot more dragons.

He retreated. He was around the corner. Had the attackers left this doesn't happen.

And you are correct. We are targets. We are killed at the highest level in this country by people who look like us. We cannot take chances. If people are acting batshit, you have to put them down. The police weren't going to respond in time. The police are useless.

I assume you haven't been in a situation where you had to defend yourself. I think that is why you think the way you do. Trust me, when it comes to defending yourself you have to REACT. You have a split second to "think" about what you are going to do.

When they jumped the counter and attacked him what would you prefer him to do? Say "stop! I must ask you your intentions. After which I will frisk you to make sure that you are not carrying any weapons. Please sign this waiver saying you will not pick up any weapons while trying to attack me at my place of work!"

I wonder what you would have done had they chased you to the back of your workplace? Break with the Buddha speak or defend yourself from physical attack.

 

[ZuluSam]

Unless someone goes back and looks at the law I posted and supports their opinion in the light of the law, this thread is dead....

so far .... F-

 

[WhenTheGoingGetsTtuff]

He retreated. He was around the corner. Had the attackers left this doesn't happen.

And you are correct. We are targets. We are killed at the highest level in this country by people who look like us. We cannot take chances. If people are acting batshit, you have to put them down. The police weren't going to respond in time. The police are useless.

I assume you haven't been in a situation where you had to defend yourself. I think that is why you think the way you do. Trust me, when it comes to defending yourself you have to REACT. You have a split second to "think" about what you are going to do.

When they jumped the counter and attacked him what would you prefer him to do? Say "stop! I must ask you your intentions. After which I will frisk you to make sure that you are not carrying any weapons. Please sign this waiver saying you will not pick up any weapons while trying to attack me at my place of work!"

I wonder what you would have done had they chased you to the back of your workplace? Break with the Buddha speak or defend yourself from physical attack.

I was taught differently like i said. I know the insults and the assumptions will be said. Where i came from. How i am as a person. You're already trying to condescend. But i'll say it again. The men i know? Teach differently. They teach to be in control of yourself and be responsible.

Is it because you can't imagine black men being like this? Or do you believe that every black man just snaps into fits of survival rages whenever they're provoked? I've seen both.

 

[gene cisco]

I was taught differently like i said. I know the insults and the assumptions will be said. Where i came from. How i am as a person. You're already trying to condescend. But i'll say it again. The men i know? Teach differently. They teach to be in control of yourself and be responsible.

Is it because you can't imagine black men being like this? Or do you believe that every black man just snaps into fits of survival rages whenever they're provoked? I've seen both.

What are you talking about? They came after him when they went around the corner. After you RETREAT, you have every right to NEUTRALIZE the threat if it PURSUES you.

You are clearly in the minority with your line of thinking. People are sick of thugs.

Again, I ask you a simple question: If they pursued you around that corner after you retreated, what would you have done? You dodged the house question with using dogs on the intruders. I want to know what you would have done against two attackers chasing you into a corner at your workplace.

 

[Darrkman]

I'm positive i would've reacted with THOUGHT instead of reacting. I've been slapped before. And it was publically. And i balled up my fists. And bit my tongue down because i wanted to go crazy. But i was at work. And i didn't want to lose my job. My job and future career was more important tome at that time than KEEPING IT REAL. I'm POSITIVE some of the men i know would've reacted with THOUGHT instead of reacting with "instinct". They think of what they have to lose when they are confronted. And they know how the world works. So when they do things they know that odds are? The reality of the situation is they're going to be the ones under the thumb of the system. I know my words don't matter to anyone here. The people i'm currently responding too believe that the world will treat them fairly on the battlefield of life.

I don't know about a movie. The guy who said it was an older asian man.

 

[gene cisco]

Unless someone goes back and looks at the law I posted and supports their opinion in the light of the law, this thread is dead....

so far .... F-

The only legal opinion I saw in this forum was by Papi68 who is a lawyer in NYC. He stated that an informal poll of lawyers in his law firm said this guy was justified in his actions.

 

[BKF]

I was taught differently like i said. I know the insults and the assumptions will be said. Where i came from. How i am as a person. You're already trying to condescend. But i'll say it again. The men i know? Teach differently. They teach to be in control of yourself and be responsible.

Is it because you can't imagine black men being like this? Or do you believe that every black man just snaps into fits of survival rages whenever they're provoked? I've seen both.

This is an asinine statement. That's like saying. Just because someone is attacking your family. Doesn't mean you should respond to that threat. You should maintain control. We are humans and not robots.

 

[BKF]

What are you talking about? They came after him when they went around the corner. After you RETREAT, you have every right to NEUTRALIZE the threat if it PURSUES you.

You are clearly in the minority with your line of thinking. People are sick of thugs.

Again, I ask you a simple question: If they pursued you around that corner after you retreated, what would you have done? You dodged the house question with using dogs on the intruders. I want to know what you would have done against two attackers chasing you into a corner at your workplace.

As a black man, you know you can't defend yourself. The system is against you. So just take the ass whooping, stomping, pot to the head, etc.....but maintain self control while it happens but you know the courts will not be in your corner.

 

[WhenTheGoingGetsTtuff]

Lone, I don't know if I ever had an issue with you on here, but the reason you women

get approached different is because of the tactics y'all tend to resort to in intelligent

discussions. It pisses dudes off, and insults our intelligence at times.


When dudes go sideways they get the same treatment.



You talking in 3rd person now?

Whats next? Can I smell what "The Rock" is cooking?


Realize that even if you're saying dude was excessive, you're saying he's wrong.

and if you're doing that, you're buggin.

No. It's not the same thing. There's a difference between saying he's wrong for what he did. And saying the system will see him as wrong for what he did. I'm saying i'm indifferent to what he did. And he could've done something different in order for him not to be where he is. I've said this over and over. But people read what they want. And do what you JUST did.

 

[WhenTheGoingGetsTtuff]

What are you talking about? They came after him when they went around the corner. After you RETREAT, you have every right to NEUTRALIZE the threat if it PURSUES you.

You are clearly in the minority with your line of thinking. People are sick of thugs.

Again, I ask you a simple question: If they pursued you around that corner after you retreated, what would you have done? You dodged the house question with using dogs on the intruders. I want to know what you would have done against two attackers chasing you into a corner at your workplace.

Why do you keep trying to make this personal?

 

[WhenTheGoingGetsTtuff]

ha. I'm pretty sure the guy who was speaking to me didn't get it from a movie though lol. But it's nice to see.