So I got followed by a cop tonight ....

[ballscout1]

i deal with the CPD.

we always talk shit to the police.

they not on shit.

and mofokrs walking around all times of the night in the 100's is normal.

and police fuckin with people in the 100's is expected..

and neither is kids learning how to hit the floor and hiding in bathtubs.

neither is innocent bystanders catching hot ones.

and while mofokrs are standing up to the police they hiding from the cats fuckin up the neighborhood.

 

[Crown&Coke]

So if yall see somebody walking around at 3am....nobody gonna think nothing about it?

And what the OP said about incriminating himself make it sound like he was doing some shit he had no business doing. Thats what you say when you know you fucked up but wont admit it.​

 

[ballscout1]

So if yall see somebody walking around at 3am....nobody gonna think nothing about it?

And what the OP said about incriminating himself make it sound like he was doing some shit he had no business doing. Thats what you say when you know you fucked up but wont admit it.​

It sounds like he perpetrating knowing his rights. Like I said the 5th had nothing to do with what was an informal police contact.

Him asking if he is being detained while the cop is in the car driving and he is walking was stupid to..

you tube lawyer.

 

[Crown&Coke]

It sounds like he perpetrating knowing his rights. Like I said the 5th had nothing to do with what was an informal police contact.

Him asking if he is being detained while the cop is in the car driving and he is walking was stupid to..

you tube lawyer.

Yep...exactly. Why make it seem like you guilty of something when you are not. The cop seemed to be cool cuz those comments might have got him harrassed with the wrong cop.​

 

[sharkbait28]

And I agree with that in it's entirety. I don't think the cop asking him his business was inappropriate nor do i think the OP had to bend over backwards.

Again I don't think the OP saying I am just getting some air ,is there a problem is bending over backwards.

As I said if the cop wanted to get silly then the OP can at any time stop talking according to his rights and the 5th amendment has nothing to do wit it.

The first response which was minding my own business was arrogant.

As far as paying taxes and never being in trouble the cop does not know that because he doesn't know you. None of the is relevant to the initial contact because who would know that?

But as a taxpayer I would want the police to inquire who is walking down my block at 3am since this isn't an area that can be walked to.

I was outside my home leaning against my car in the driveway at midnight. The garage door was closed and there were no lights on. I cop driving down the street stopped and asked my if everything was alright ( another way of saying what are you doing) I responded I'm good and you. he asked if I lived there and I said yes just catching a smoke. He said have a good one and drove off.

Now I could a said I pay the mortgage here and the taxes and I ain't doing anything wrong so fuck him I don't have to answer you.

I also don't see anywhere in his narrative that the cop asked for ID.


And after 6 pages and many answers I don't even think this shit happened. what's it called a Duck Tale.

For the record I don't like the police and never have. But some shit is just asking for more than what is there.

I guess some of this depends on tone as well. I don't see it as being arrogant to reply "I'm minding my own business" if the delivery is neutral. There's a bit of a ZING! to it but it's not aggressive at all.... it's a way of letting the officer know that you're not interested in explaining yourself and that's totally within your right. I guess for me the elephant in the room is the racism that usually prompts this kind of police questioning. We all know its there.

As someone who has walked the line his whole life I know I would be unhelpful in the same situation. You can be measured, reasonable and uncooperative at the same time and given the fact that I know I'm not doing anything wrong I wouldn't be in a hurry to make this dude's job any easier.

MoS's story sounds plausible..... and it just rubs me the wrong way. I can appreciate that you might handle it differently in some cases... context matters... but the clowning of the OP is pretty unwarranted imo.

 

[WhenTheGoingGetsTtuff]

dude about 5 years ago I had a firebomb thrown through my window at roughly 2 am. This was in a residential neighborhood that was not near any late night businesses so pedestrian traffic at that time is unusual to say the least.

it is more so unusual where i live now. So it isn't just the hour but also the location. Thee are places where people being out and about at any hour is not unusual and in those areas there should not be any scrutiny unless there is a reason for it such as staggering or erratic behavior.

As i said where I live now there is nothing accessible at all without a vehicle so foot traffic would be very strange at that hour. If I saw somebody out walking I would scrutinize them and if they were near my house i might step out for a smoke with my pistol.

I think this thread has gone to extremes. I don't think anybody is saying anyone should have their rights violated or not stand up for themselves when there is a reason to stand up.

I think some are saying that imaging such a reason or inciting a situation isn't the smartest thing.

And some of the shit posted was plain stupid and extreme. And the more it carries the dumber it will become because there really isn't that much more that can be said.

Damn...........what you do to that girl to make her firebomb your house?

 

[Sowada]

Arguing semantics...another spinster tactic...I'm done

I never had a police shine a light in my face or follow me for blocks...I not saying it could never happen cuz I know asshole cops exist...hopefully my method of dealing directly w/ them like an adult continues to work

Me either and I will continue to deal with police in a fashion where they are aware that I not only know my rights but will invoke them as a law abiding citizen. I guess there is more than one way to skin a cat .

 

[ballscout1]

I guess some of this depends on tone as well. I don't see it as being arrogant to reply "I'm minding my own business" if the delivery is neutral. There's a bit of a ZING! to it but it's not aggressive at all.... it's a way of letting the officer know that you're not interested in explaining yourself and that's totally within your right. I guess for me the elephant in the room is the racism that usually prompts this kind of police questioning. We all know its there.

As someone who has walked the line his whole life I know I would be unhelpful in the same situation. You can be measured, reasonable and uncooperative at the same time and given the fact that I know I'm not doing anything wrong I wouldn't be in a hurry to make this dude's job any easier.

MoS's story sounds plausible..... and it just rubs me the wrong way. I can appreciate that you might handle it differently in some cases... context matters... but the clowning of the OP is pretty unwarranted imo.

Agreed and that is why i don't like text because you can't tell tone.

You can say yes sir and make it sounds like something stinks but in test is like that is polite.

I haven't always towed the line and don't think I would have been helpful either. Thats why I said I am getting some air is there a problem ?

Its not his business what I am doing but if he has a reason to stop other than a cursory inquiry then he can say so.

Shit maybe he was lonely and it was to early for donuts and a nap.

 

[Artist Monk]

Real talk, you could have answered the man matter of factly, as man to man in context of the situation. If he responded in a manner afterwards that lessened him as a man then you should have kept it moving.

You played yourself on this one initially by not giving cop benefit of the doubt, again as a man, not as a cop.


Live and learn.

 

[ballscout1]

Damn...........what you do to that girl to make her firebomb your house?

wasn't a girl...it was a case of mistaken identity (wrong house) but when it got back to them the amount of mofokrs that showed up to the crib they moved out of state.

 

[sharkbait28]

Agreed and that is why i don't like text because you can't tell tone.

You can say yes sir and make it sounds like something stinks but in test is like that is polite.

I haven't always towed the line and don't think I would have been helpful either. Thats why I said I am getting some air is there a problem ?

Its not his business what I am doing but if he has a reason to stop other than a cursory inquiry then he can say so.

Shit maybe he was lonely and it was to early for donuts and a nap.

Agreed on all points.

 

[WhenTheGoingGetsTtuff]

wasn't a girl...it was a case of mistaken identity (wrong house) but when it got back to them the amount of mofokrs that showed up to the crib they moved out of state.

Unh huh......tell me anyTHANG. lmao

I imagine you called the POleece. Did they ask you any offensive questions?

Are you dealing drugs?

Are you an arms dealer?

 

[shaddyvillethug]

and mofokrs walking around all times of the night in the 100's is normal.

and police fuckin with people in the 100's is expected..

and neither is kids learning how to hit the floor and hiding in bathtubs.

neither is innocent bystanders catching hot ones.

and while mofokrs are standing up to the police they hiding from the cats fuckin up the neighborhood.

never give up your own.

did tubman give up slaves?

 

[ballscout1]

Unh huh......tell me anyTHANG. lmao

I imagine you called the POleece. Did they ask you any offensive questions?

Are you dealing drugs?

Are you an arms dealer?

I didn't call the police the fire department called their investigators.

They asked me if I had an FOID for the pistol I had on me. They asked if I had any enemies

They didn't ask about dealing although I am sure they assumed it was a possibility.

I called some homies.

 

[ballscout1]

never give up your own.

did tubman give up slaves?

 

[crackheadlou]

Good for you ...you did everything right because as I stated in in another post "you knew the law".

 

[LSN]

I didn't call the police the fire department called their investigators.

They asked me if I had an FOID for the pistol I had on me. They asked if I had any enemies

They didn't ask about dealing although I am sure they assumed it was a possibility.

I called some homies.

That reminded me of when this dude was tryna tow my car for not having a parking sticker where I lived...someone called the cops...they arrived...1st dickhead saw my tats and asked me if I was in a gang...I just walked away and spoke to his partner

 

[kennysmith_se]

Do you do this often, walking around the streets in the middle of the night when everybody is asleep. The cop appear to be doing his job if you ask me.i would not be surprised if this happen to you again with another cop wondering what you up to, if they suspect you might be up to no good. They doing their job...

Everybody is not asleep at 3am. I don't know where you live but hospitals, gas stations, 7-11's, Walmart, Denny's, Ihop, all kinds of places are open 24/7. So he wasn't doing his job he was harassing a black man. If he was looking for someone or something he would have had a "reason" to stop him, he didn't.

 

[WhenTheGoingGetsTtuff]

I didn't call the police the fire department called their investigators.

They asked me if I had an FOID for the pistol I had on me. They asked if I had any enemies

They didn't ask about dealing although I am sure they assumed it was a possibility.

I called some homies.

One time at another property i had, we had a forreal explosion happen. Police showed up and accused me of everything man. From guns, drugs, kidnapping. Some of everything.

Uniforms make me sick.

 

[Mad Genius]

To start, let's be clear about something. The cop rolled up on the OP shining that bright ass "nigga tapdancing" spotlight. That is an unbelievably aggressive stance from the cop from the jump. If he wasn't being aggressive, he would've turned the light off when he pulled up to the OP. That alone should have dispelled any question about whether the officer was being friendly. Next, the cop slowly drove behind him before pulling aside him - all while shining that light. That was the cop trying to scare the OP into stopping on his own. When the OP didn't stop on his own accord, the cop pulled along side him STILL shining that fucking light.

I totally understand where the OP is coming from. And if you know how pussy ass cops operate, then you understand that the cop was being a dick from the start.

It is your right to not have to feel harrassed by the fucking police if you decide to walk around your neighborhood at 3AM, regardless of what the excuse is, as long as you are not in the act of breaking the law.

It is your right to not have to be dressed in business casual attire in order to ensure the police don't consider you a criminal.

It is your right to not entertain a cop's bullshit because he decided to fuck you over under the guise of protecting the public interest. Fuck that. You don't have to be militant to feel this way. It's called being a man. Following a path of least resistance is just fine, but some shit shouldn't be tolerated. The OP felt like ignoring the bullshit the cop was on. I have a hard time finding anything wrong with what he did.

 

[ballscout1]

Everybody is not asleep at 3am. I don't know where you live but hospitals, gas stations, 7-11's, Walmart, Denny's, Ihop, all kinds of places are open 24/7. So he wasn't doing his job he was harassing a black man. If he was looking for someone or something he would have had a "reason" to stop him, he didn't.

really Clarence really ?

now you putting a strip mall on his block to make your nonsense valid?

 

[ballscout1]

One time at another property i had, we had a forreal explosion happen. Police showed up and accused me of everything man. From guns, drugs, kidnapping. Some of everything.

Uniforms make me sick.

I feel you on that. They spoke to my wife more than me because I walked away from the.. this wasn't something they would solve anyway so the talk was cheap.

I was more interested in finding out who was responsible, I didn't need their service after the fact.

 

[LSN]

To start, let's be clear about something. The cop rolled up on the OP shining that bright ass spotlight. That is an unbelievably aggressive stance from the cop from the jump.

Good point...I overlooked that he had the light in his face when he 1st approached him

 

[Mo Pizorn]

Fuck the police. Fuck the slaves defending their overseers.
The ONLY option when it comes to talking to the pigs is

 

[P03t]

never give up your own.

did tubman give up slaves?

 

[assmaster1]

"Minding My Business" is a snide remark?...wow black man....

let me see if I've got this straight.

so if you had a son and asked him what he did at school today?
"minding my business" would not be considered a snide remark?

for the record, my pops and many other BGOLers pops, would have smacked the taste out of our mouths for that.

 

[sharkbait28]

let me see if I've got this straight.

so if you had a son and asked him what he did at school today?
"minding my business" would not be considered a snide remark?

for the record, my pops and many other BGOLers pops, would have smacked the taste out of our mouths for that.

COPS ARE NOT YOUR PARENTS. YOU DON'T OWE THEM ANY EXPLANATIONS. Damn folks

 

[LSN]

let me see if I've got this straight.

so if you had a son and asked him what he did at school today?
"minding my business" would not be considered a snide remark?

for the record, my pops and many other BGOLers pops, would have smacked the taste out of our mouths for that.

Ppl won't try to get the point your making which is how his remark can be construed as snide...that being said tho blast brought up a good point w/ the light...the cop clearly approached dude as a suspect and was wrong from get...@ that point I wouldn't have addressed any of his questions...he woulda had to either drive away...follow me...or get out the car and try to speak w/ me in a different manner hopefully minus all the flashing lights bullshit

 

[Complex]

Hooooorrible analogies.

Not true. You don't need them. Ever. This is a fallacy.

"Minding My Business" is a snide remark?...wow black man....

BGOL expects that you should have stopped immediately, taken your cap off and apologized to the officer for making your rounds at a late hour.

Officer: "Where are you going citizen?
Plebian: "Ohhhh... I'm just doing errands officer, I know I look guilty since I'm a black man in America. Hell you're just doing your job.... I'm certain that if I was a white man jogging at 3 or 4 am you would've stopped to ask the same questions. You're doing a great job... thanks for keeping the streets safe!!!" *Bows head to show fealty to the State*
Officer: "Thanks for entertaining my bullshit questions Plebe "

Yeah, that's just what we expect

I hate cops. Hate. I find them useless thugs. I would compare them to a gang, a bunch of uncouth gangstas. I despise them. I despise all those who defend them. And i despise how they treat our community. You're a criminal because of the color of your skin to them.

You did nothing wrong you kept it moving, you said nothing wrong. You could've been killed whether you answered their questions or didn't.

These pathetic FOOLS. These line hopping goose stepping PUNK female qualitied soft hearted Mary Sue's on this board who agree with those VERMIN! Deserve to be raped by those same COWARDS who wear badges and claim they're the law. They protect NOTHING. They DO nothing good for us. They do nothing RIGHT by us. What these scum sucking bottom feeders don't understand is that if even 1 of them does this thing then the system is FAILED.

You did the right thing. You knew your rights. You knew they couldn't bother you. And you knew they were in the wrong to harass you. You knew they were childish bigots just looking to kill another black man. They can't wait to have an excuse to kill you black men!!!

They WANT too. They GET OFF on it!

To those of you who KNOW the real deal, Po3t and Mainman, Keep on. These other mark ass busters are the type to lay down and say yassah massa. To anything. Just get along looking motherfuckers. Do what massa say....Do what massa tell you to do....da overseer ova dere....

Nothing but a bunch of bitches. Make me sick. And you call yourselves MEN. You are not men. You are cowards. Make me sick.

Do you say this to cops, or just on the internet

let me see if I've got this straight.

so if you had a son and asked him what he did at school today?
"minding my business" would not be considered a snide remark?

for the record, my pops and many other BGOLers pops, would have smacked the taste out of our mouths for that.

I think many people on BGOL play a role of the person they want to be

 

[assmaster1]

Originally Posted by theblast
To start, let's be clear about something. The cop rolled up on the OP shining that bright ass spotlight. That is an unbelievably aggressive stance from the cop from the jump.

Good point...I overlooked that he had the light in his face when he 1st approached him

let's keep the proper context....it's 3 a.m. and presumably dark (unless this is the white nights of Alaska).

Any cop who cares to continue living will approach slowly with a light so as to see any sudden threatening movements or weapons are drawn against them.

Anyone rolls up on you in the middle of the night without light, you better run. They're not police.

 

[heiesuke]

Yea man fuck the police… unless they are saving u from a lunatic!

 

[sharkbait28]

Yeah, that's just what we expect

Do you say this to cops, or just on the internet
I think many people on BGOL play a role of the person they want to be

Lets leave the adhominem bs out of this.... you don't know what I or others would do. We're just trading words on the internets my dude.

It's simple... I think the notion that I need to have explanations handy for police officers with regards to my movements is nonsense. It's one thing if I'm trespassing, disturbing the peace etc. But a stroll at night in a residential setting? No.

And again... the elephant in the room is the fact that there is probably a racist element to this extra attention. This is just reality.
Walking around late at night is not a privilege afforded to you by the State for which you need to explain yourself. Period. You don't have to be belligerent douchebag if harassed by an officer but you sure as hell don't have to be helpful either.

(and yes those analogies listed above were the fucking worst)

 

[Damian Stone]

Wow 9 pages, seriously??

Fuck the police, I tend to agree!

But a smart person knows how to dose their actions and reactions given the situation.

Sometimes their is no need to be super defensive.

 

[hsm2448]

you dumb as fuck. now i bet u next time yo ass going 2 mph over the speed limit you getting stopped + the ticket. i understand not being overly cooperative when a cop is trying to really fuck with you or if you're in a legally ambiguous situation.

 

[ShortyCumStain]

Thread full of scary ass, do boy type niggas.

immediately once you challenge the cops your "Anti Police"....or "Militant"

This is the ONLY place where I've seen niggas shun militancy as if bein' militant is somethin' to be looked down upon. Let me say it again, the ONLY place. Mind you, a board that is supposedly mostly composed of black members.