So I got followed by a cop tonight ....

[Lick]

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[ballscout1]

dumb ass for telling them your rights brotha...?

OP was reacting to the behavior of the cop which was intimidating off jump...the cop is shining his flashlight in your face how do you expect any man to react....

if the officer acted more professional he could have gotten the answers he wanted & Kept it moving...but he chose to shine his light in the mans face for a few blocks for what reason?

how do you expect a blk man to react....???

you damn right I WILL INSTANTLY TELL THEM MY RIGHTS AS AN AMERICAN AS LOUD AS I COULD.....TOO MANY OF US ARE BEING KILLED BY THESE TERRORISTS....

I'm not on some revolutionary militant shit...but I don't see how cats can say OP was wrong when the cop was trying to intimidate him....

Seeing a man walking the street at 3 am in an area where that is uncommon is not initially intimidating to investigate and ask the nature of his business.

I think it may have turned to that once the OP said minding my business like he the daddy in house party.

I doubt it was a flashlight but probably the alley light that police cars have.

Again what would have been wrong with OP stating. I am on my way to the mailbox or I am just out getting some air, any problem officer ?

Even would you mind taking the light off the side of my head because that's where it would have been.

and while you are screaming you know your rights , do you really?

they are different state to state. This was a topic the other day and I posted the following. As you can see there is no one size fits all when questioned by the police.

Police–citizen encountersIn the United States, interactions between police and citizens fall into three general categories: consensual (“contact” or “conversation”), detention (often called a Terry stop, after Terry v. Ohio, 392 U.S. 1 (1968)), or arrest. “Stop and identify” laws pertain to detentions.

Different obligations apply to drivers of automobiles, who generally are required by state vehicle codes to present a driver’s license to police upon request.

[edit] ConsensualAt any time, police may approach a person and ask questions. The objective may simply be a friendly conversation; however, the police also may suspect involvement in a crime, but lack “specific and articulable facts”[4] that would justify a detention or arrest, and hope to obtain these facts from the questioning. The person approached is not required to identify herself or answer any other questions, and may leave at any time.[5] Police are not usually required to tell a person that she is free to decline to answer questions and go about her business;[6] however, a person can usually determine whether the interaction is consensual by asking, “Am I free to go?”[7][8]

[edit] DetentionA person is detained when circumstances are such that a reasonable person would believe he is not free to leave.[9]

Police may briefly detain a person if they have reasonable suspicion that the person has committed, is committing, or is about to commit a crime. Many state laws explicitly grant this authority; in Terry v. Ohio, the U.S. Supreme Court established it in all jurisdictions, regardless of explicit mention in state or local laws. Police may conduct a limited search for weapons (known as a “frisk”) if they reasonably suspect that the person to be detained may be armed and dangerous.

Police may question a person detained in a Terry stop, but in general, the detainee is not required to answer.[10] However, many states have “stop and identify” laws that explicitly require a person detained under the conditions of Terry to identify himself to police, and in some cases, provide additional information.

Before Hiibel, it was unresolved whether a detainee could be arrested and prosecuted for refusing to identify himself. Authority on this issue was split among the federal circuit courts of appeal,[11] and the U.S. Supreme Court twice expressly refused to address the question.[12] In Hiibel, the Court held, in a 5–4 decision, that a Nevada “stop and identify” law did not violate the United States Constitution. The Court’s opinion implied that a detainee was not required to produce written identification, but could satisfy the requirement merely by stating his name. Some “stop and identify” laws do not require that a detainee identify himself, but allow refusal to do so to be considered along with other factors in determining whether there is probable cause to arrest. In some states, providing a false name is an offense.[13]

As of February 2011, the Supreme Court has not addressed the validity of requirements that a detainee provide information other than his name.

[edit] ArrestWhile detention requires only that police have reasonable suspicion that a person is involved in criminal activity, an arrest requires that the officer have probable cause to believe that the person has committed a crime. Although some states require police to inform the person of the intent to make the arrest and the cause for the arrest,[14] it is not always obvious when a detention becomes an arrest. After making an arrest, police may search a person, her belongings, and her immediate surroundings.

Whether an arrested person must identify herself may depend on the jurisdiction in which the arrest occurs. If a person is under arrest and police wish to question her, they are required to inform the person of her Fifth-Amendment right to remain silent by giving a Miranda warning. However, Miranda does not apply to biographical data necessary to complete booking.[15][16] It is not clear whether a “stop and identify” law could compel giving one’s name after being arrested, although some states have laws that specifically require an arrested person to give her name and other biographical information,[17] and some state courts[18][19] have held that refusal to give one’s name constitutes obstructing a public officer. As a practical matter, an arrested person who refused to give her name would have little chance of obtaining a prompt release.

[edit] Obligation to identifyStates with “stop and identify” laws
Alabama Ala. Code §15-5-30
Arizona Ari. Rev. Stat. Tit. 13, §2412 (enacted 2005)
Arkansas Ark. Code Ann. §5-71-213(a)(1) (loitering)
Colorado Colo. Rev. Stat. §16-3-103(1)
Delaware Del. Code Ann., Tit. 11, §§1902, 1321(6)
Florida Fla. Stat. §856.021(2) (loitering and prowling)
Georgia Ga. Code Ann. §16-11-36(b) (loitering)
Illinois Ill. Comp. Stat., ch. 725, §5/107-14
Indiana Indiana Code §34-28-5-3.5
Kansas Kan. Stat. Ann. §22-2402(1)
Louisiana La. Code Crim. Proc. Ann., Art. 215.1(A)
Missouri Mo. Rev. Stat. §84.710(2)
Montana Mont. Code Ann. §46-5-401
Nebraska Neb. Rev. Stat. §29-829
Nevada Nev. Rev. Stat. §171.123
New Hampshire N.H. Rev. Stat. Ann. §594:2, §644:6
New Mexico N.M. Stat. Ann. §30-22-3
New York N.Y. Crim. Proc. Law (CPL) §140.50 (1)
North Dakota N.D. Cent. Code §29-29-21 (PDF)
Ohio Ohio Rev. Code §2921.29 (enacted 2006)
Rhode Island R.I. Gen. Laws §12-7-1
Utah Utah Code Ann. §77-7-15
Vermont Vt. Stat. Ann., Tit. 24, §1983
Wisconsin Wis. Stat. §968.24

As of February 2011, there is no U.S. federal law requiring that an individual identify herself during a Terry stop, but Hiibel held that states may enact such laws,[20] and 24 states have done so.[21] The opinion in Hiibel implied that persons detained by police in jurisdictions with “stop and identify” laws listed are obligated to identify themselves,[22] and that persons detained in other jurisdictions are not.[23] The issue may not be that simple, however, for several reasons:

The wording of “stop and identify” laws varies considerably from state to state.
Noncompliance with a “stop and identify” law that does not explicitly impose a penalty may constitute violation of another law, such as one to the effect of “resisting, obstructing, or delaying a peace officer”.
State courts have made varying interpretations of both “stop and identify” and “obstructing” laws.
[edit] Variations in “stop and identify” lawsFour states’ laws (Arizona, Indiana, Nevada, and Ohio) explicitly impose an obligation to provide identifying information.
Fifteen states grant police authority to ask questions, with varying wording, but do not explicitly impose an obligation to respond:
In Montana, police “may request” identifying information;
In 13 states (Alabama, Delaware, Illinois, Kansas, Louisiana, Missouri, Nebraska, New Hampshire, New York, North Dakota, Rhode Island, Utah, Wisconsin), police “may demand” identifying information;
In Colorado, police “may require” identifying information of a person.
Identifying information varies, but typically includes
Name, address, and an explanation of the person’s actions;
In some cases it also includes the person’s intended destination, the person’s date of birth (Indiana and Ohio), or written identification if available (Colorado).
Arizona’s law, apparently written specifically to codify the holding in Hiibel, requires a person’s “true full name”.
Nevada’s law, which requires a person to “identify himself or herself”, apparently requires only that the person state his or her name.
In five states (Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, New Hampshire, and Rhode Island), failure to identify oneself is one factor to be considered in a decision to arrest. In all but Rhode Island, the consideration arises in the context of loitering or prowling.
Six states (Arizona, Florida, Indiana, New Mexico, Ohio, and Vermont) explicitly impose a criminal penalty for noncompliance with the obligation to identify oneself.
As of February 2011, the validity of a law requiring that a person detained provide anything more than state her name has not come before the U.S. Supreme Court.

[edit] Interaction with other lawsIn states whose “stop and identify laws” do not directly impose penalties, a lawful arrest must be for violation of some other law, such as one to the effect of “resisting, obstructing, or delaying a peace officer”. For example, the Nevada “stop and identify” law challenged in Hiibel did not impose a penalty on a person who refused to comply, but the Justice Court of Union Township, Nevada, determined that Hiibel’s refusal to identify himself[24] constituted a violation of Nevada’s “obstructing” law.[25] A similar conclusion regarding the interaction between Utah’s “stop and identify” and “obstructing” laws was reached in Oliver v. Woods (10th Cir. 2000).

[edit] Interpretation by courts“Stop and identify” laws in different states that appear to be nearly identical may be different in effect because of interpretations by state courts. For example, California’s “stop and identify” law, Penal Code §647(e) had wording[26] similar to the Nevada law upheld in Hiibel, but a California appellate court, in People v. Solomon (1973), 33 Cal.App.3d 429 construed the law to require “credible and reliable” identification that carries a “reasonable assurance” of its authenticity. Using this construction, the U.S. Supreme Court held the law to be void for vagueness in Kolender v. Lawson, 461 U.S. 352 (1983).[27]

Some courts have recognized a distinction authorizing police to demand identifying information and specifically imposing an obligation of a suspect to respond.[28] Other courts have apparently interpreted demand to impose an obligation on the detainee to comply.[29][30]

Wording and interpretation by state courts of “obstructing” laws also varies; for example, New York’s “obstructing” law[31] apparently requires physical rather than simply verbal obstruction;[32][33] likewise, a violation of the Colorado “obstructing” law appears to require use or threat of use of physical force. However, the Colorado Supreme Court held in Dempsey v. People, No. 04SC362 (2005) (PDF) that refusing to provide identification was an element in the “totality of the circumstances” that could constitute obstructing an officer, even when actual physical interference was not employed.[34] Utah’s “obstructing” law does not require a physical act, but merely a failure to follow a “lawful order . . . necessary to effect the . . . detention”;[35] a divided court in Oliver v. Woods concluded that failure to present identification constituted a violation of that law.[30]

It is not universally agreed that, absent a “stop and identify law”, there is no obligation for a detainee to identify himself. For example, as the U.S. Supreme Court noted in Hiibel, California’s “stop and identify” statute was voided in Kolender v. Lawson. But in People v. Long,[36] decided four years after Kolender, a California appellate court found no constitutional impropriety in a police officer’s demand for written identification from a detainee. The issue before the Long court was a request for suppression of evidence uncovered in a search of the defendant’s wallet, so the issue of refusal to present identification was not directly addressed; however some cite Long in maintaining that refusal to present written identification constitutes obstructing an officer.[37] Others disagree, and maintain that persons detained by police in California cannot be compelled to identify themselves.[38]

Some courts, e.g., State v. Flynn (Wis. 1979)[39] and People v. Loudermilk (Calif. 1987)[40] have held that police may perform a search for written identification if a suspect refuses to provide it; a later California decision, People v. Garcia (2006) strongly disagreed.[41]

[edit] Recommendations of legal-aid organizationsSome legal organizations, such as the National Lawyers Guild and the ACLU of Northern California, caution against refusing to identify oneself whether or not a jurisdiction has a “stop and identify” law:

And in any state, police do not always follow the law, and refusing to give your name may make them suspicious and lead to your arrest, so use your judgment. If you fear that your name may be incriminating, you can claim the right to remain silent, and if you are arrested, this may help you later. Giving a false name could be a crime.[42]
In a more recent pamphlet, the ACLU of Northern California go even further, recommending that a person detained by police

. . . give your name and the information on your drivers’ license. If you don’t, you may be arrested, even though the arrest may be illegal.[43]

 

[P03t]

I C/S the OP, Im just saying the obvious doesnt need to be pointed out. Just keep it moving. Dealing with officers is more like a verbal chess match than is it is about laws & statutes. Choose your words carefully and caress their ego (no homo) and 99% of the time youre on your way. That doesnt mean kiss their ass either, just more of a linguistic exercise, the same way you would talk to a female that you wanted to make comfortable.

C/S most of your post...except the caressing their egos...they have a job just do it....nobody should have to lower themselves to any officer...

all I want from them is respect...thats all...ask your questions I'll answer...but all this tough guy shit is just too much.....especially towards my ppl....

 

[shaddyvillethug]

Fuck the police

Always and forever.

 

[ballscout1]

he then asks "what ya doin'?" ... i reply "mindin' my business"... and continue walkin' ....

An arrogant belligerent response..

he then asks "where ya headed?" ... i respond with something to the effect of, "i don't have to tell you that under my right against self-incrimination" ...
he responds "oh, so you're one of those guys?"... i do not respond ...

Does he really know his rights ? Self incrimination assumes involvement with something that could be a violation of law or statute.

he then asks "where ya comin' from?" ... i then ask "am i bein' detained or am i free to go?" ...to which he retorts "how are ya bein' detained when you're still walkin'?"


exactly,how are you being detained if he is still in his car and you are walking.

sometimes less is more if you don't want to speak to him but while dazzling him with your knowledge of your rights you did say some dumb shit.

 

[redcee]

C/S most of your post...except the caressing their egos...they have a job just do it....nobody should have to lower themselves to any officer...

all I want from them is respect...thats all...ask your questions I'll answer...but all this tough guy shit is just too much.....especially towards my ppl....

Their humans first and they got a badge. Same feeling you would get with a millions dollars in your pocket. You feel like youre the shit and everyone must know it. Its a fact of life you either deal with it or get dealt with. Just play the game smarter.

Fuck the police

Always and forever.

 

[Rip2dbone]

Did you or did you not have the mail in your hand?

Im just asking.

Flash the mail at him and keep walkin.

Flashing the mail at the pig might get you shot...Cac's are quick to say I thought he had a gun

 

[sharkbait28]

BGOL expects that you should have stopped immediately, taken your cap off and apologized to the officer for making your rounds at a late hour.

Officer: "Where are you going citizen?
Plebian: "Ohhhh... I'm just doing errands officer, I know I look guilty since I'm a black man in America. Hell you're just doing your job.... I'm certain that if I was a white man jogging at 3 or 4 am you would've stopped to ask the same questions. You're doing a great job... thanks for keeping the streets safe!!!" *Bows head to show fealty to the State*
Officer: "Thanks for entertaining my bullshit questions Plebe "

 

[ballscout1]

 

[LSN]

So you think answering a direct question w/ a direct answer would've lead to the wrong path...but answering a direct question w/ a smart aleck remark and an indirect response would lead to the right one...?

it may have prolonged his presence but not by much ... because if he thinks i'm up to no good .. he's gonna keep diggin' ... like all of sudden he's columbo (r.i.p.)...

i see it goin' something like..

officer: how ya doin'??
me: fine
officer: where ya headed??
me: to the mailbox.
officer:where ya comin' from??
me: home.
officer: oh yah?? where's home??
me: 123 main st
officer:kinda weird bein' out at 3 in the morning, most people out at this time are either goin' to work or comin' home from work, or committin' crimes, kinda strange you're goin' to the mailbox at this hour, why ya out so late??
me: i like to run my errands at night when nobody's out.
officer: really?? why's that??
me: i'm sort of a night owl.
officer: ya mind showin' me the envelope ya were gonna mail??

and it jus keeps goin' like that ...

 

[sharkbait28]

Remember guys...... Walking the streets late at night is a PRIVILEGE not a RIGHT.

We should thank the State for even allowing such a thing.

 

[furlough]

good sh!t m_o_s...not only did you take the time to learn your rights,

you also had the courage to exercise them



if it's a regular practice for op to be out during the hours that kats think are forbidden to black men,

then he's probably known by others, including cops that regularly patrol that area

like bdr stated, that cop was looking for action & when he didn't find it, he tried to create it

 

[ballscout1]

Originally Posted by Man_Of_STeeL View Post
it may have prolonged his presence but not by much ... because if he thinks i'm up to no good .. he's gonna keep diggin' ... like all of sudden he's columbo (r.i.p.)...

i see it goin' something like..

officer: how ya doin'??
me: fine
officer: where ya headed??
me: to the mailbox.
officer:where ya comin' from??
me: home.
officer: oh yah?? where's home??
me: 123 main st
officer:kinda weird bein' out at 3 in the morning, most people out at this time are either goin' to work or comin' home from work, or committin' crimes, kinda strange you're goin' to the mailbox at this hour, why ya out so late??
me: i like to run my errands at night when nobody's out.
officer: really?? why's that??
me: i'm sort of a night owl.
officer: ya mind showin' me the envelope ya were gonna mail??

and it jus keeps goin' like that ...

Nope because after you answered his initial inquiry you could have shut it down if he appeared to be on some grimey shit.

where you going- answer

where you coming from-home i live over on yadda yadda

officer asks another question.....is there a problem officer

then you can do your i don't wanna have this conversation....althouh i doubt it would have continued.


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[Dragonfly Jones]

parents divorced when i was about 3 .. i lived with my mother until i was 12.. and after that i lived with my father till i was grown ... and my father is one of the most honorable men i know ...



the "mind my business" statement ..i wish i could take back ...but like i said in a previous post... he startled me ... and my natural reaction to that question is "none of your goddamn business" ..but after i recognized the situation ...i chose my words very carefully...and i was careful to be assertive but not loud or threatening in my tone...and show that i was in control of my emotions...and i wasn't gonna tell him where i was goin'...



yeah... you're right ...because thugs don't have a rule book they are sworn to uphold ... so apples and oranges ...



thats what i would attempt to do if the police officer and DA wanted to take it that far...but tell the officer my life story doesn't help my case ...



why do you keep lumpin' police and thugs in the same sentence??




lol...name callin' accomplishes nothin'...

i like the discussion though...

The funny thing to me is you are mad polite in here but you were slightly abrasive with the cop. I don't think you were completely in the wrong. I understand your stance and see that you would take back the minding your business line. That's the only thing I would've done differently if in that same situation was reply fine. I wouldn't get into the I know my rights speech because then he can always call another cop over to the situation and make a simple inquiry turn into a bigger spectacle. I answer fine and just out for a walk. I could deal with any other corresponding questions politely and quickly without drawing the process out further.

Next time just buy a random tee shirt that says neighborhood watch on it and walk out whatever time you want and if they ask what you're doing just point to the shirt and keep it moving.

 

[sharkbait28]

Man... from now on I will proactively volunteer information to officers about where I'm going and what I'm doing before they even ask.

Anything to make a police officer's job easier

This also defuses potential misunderstandings.

 

[Dragonfly Jones]

 

[sharkbait28]

Rule #1 when dealing with police
(even as someone who is being harassed and has never engaged in criminal activity)

Always Be Humble.... police officers deserve the utmost respect and obedience. Remember, you might be paying their salaries but it's important to understand that when interacting with an officer (irrespective of the circumstances or context) you should defer immediately and do everything possible to make their jobs easier. You are a plebian and a servant of the State.... don't ever forget this.

 

[BenQ]

Wheres the beatdownrecords remix thread

 

[electrik_relaxation]

I dont dislike cops but I dont particularly care for them either. I think what you did was fine OP. My brother is a cop and while he seems to be pretty normal and able to separate the job from his life, there are a lot of racist power-hungry assholes who just go looking for trouble. I respect many officers for being public servants but a lot of them really abuse their authority and love to question anything and everything. As a citizen you should have the right to walk around your neighborhood at whatever time you choose but on the other hand, 3am is a slight cause for suspicion. Luckily he left you alone unlike the other poster a few weeks back who got his car impounded for loud music.

 

[TheAlias]

My only question to the OP: Why have the need to qualify your actions? (I'm a night owl, I run my errands at night, etc.....)
My thought is that you are aware that walking at this time of night is out of the ordinary. Now with this awareness of your actions being out of the ordinary, why would you not expect the police officer to think the same?

What you said to the officer(which wasn't wise in my opinion) did not help the scenario at all. You exhibited your knowledge of the law to the officer, but you showed no type of wisdom. The fact that you said the words "incriminating myself" can be considered cause for the officer to question you further or maybe something worse.

I don't know, I see things differently since being in my 30's. I prefer to quell any potentially explosive situation as quickly and effectively as I can. In this particular situation, I would told the officer my destination and politely dismissed him like so, "Thanks for your concern officer, Have a good night" Barking out the letter of the law to him can easily be construed as condescending and confrontational.

 

[TB1996]

Call dispatch and ask who was in that area at that time and file a complaint and lAwsuit. Doesn't matter if you win or lose, he will get the message.....

 

[LSN]

I don't know, I see things differently since being in my 30's. I prefer to quell any potentially explosive situation as quickly and effectively as I can. In this particular situation, I would told the officer my destination and politely dismissed him like so, "Thanks for your concern officer, Have a good night"

...

 

[Cock Head Jones]

Next time just look dead in his face and scream "the blackman is god! catch me if you can pig!"

and then take off...

 

[The Pope]

to the op, good for you, some cops can be complete dicks sometimes. He was just dying for you to give him a reason to detain you over some bullshit.

 

[LSN]

Call dispatch and ask who was in that area at that time and file a complaint and lAwsuit. Doesn't matter if you win or lose, he will get the message.....

I'm wondering...w/ a filed complaint/lawsuit that we KNOW will go nowhere in this particular case...wouldn't he still have to explain why he was walking around @ 3 am to make his case in addition to having to submit his name/address

 

[sharkbait28]

My only question to the OP: Why have the need to qualify your actions? (I'm a night owl, I run my errands at night, etc.....)
My thought is that you are aware that walking at this time of night is out of the ordinary. Now with this awareness of your actions being out of the ordinary, why would you not expect the police officer to think the same?

What you said to the officer(which wasn't wise in my opinion) did not help the scenario at all. You exhibited your knowledge of the law to the officer, but you showed no type of wisdom. The fact that you said the words "incriminating myself" can be considered cause for the officer to question you further or maybe something worse.

I don't know, I see things differently since being in my 30's. I prefer to quell any potentially explosive situation as quickly and effectively as I can. In this particular situation, I would told the officer my destination and politely dismissed him like so, "Thanks for your concern officer, Have a good night" Barking out the letter of the law to him can easily be construed as condescending and confrontational.

Agreed,

Man_of_Steel when that cruiser rolled up beside you you should have immediately laid down on the ground with your hands behind your back. Just to make things easier for the officer of course, this is one of your chief responsibilities as a plebeian.

As walking around late at night is a privilege granted by the State you should have immediately explained:

Where you were going.
Where you had come from.
And why you chose to conduct these activities at this hour.

Racism probably has nothing to do with this. You can certainly be sure that if you were a white man the officer would have taken the same interest.

This was a learning experience.... hopefully next time you'll react more wisely thanks to the counsel of your BGOL brethren.

 

[WhenTheGoingGetsTtuff]

i'm a grown ass man ... i don't care if this whole board and the whole world thinks i was wrong ...

if i think i'm right i'm gonna speak on it...

could care less if somebody co-signs for me or not ...

I hate cops. Hate. I find them useless thugs. I would compare them to a gang, a bunch of uncouth gangstas. I despise them. I despise all those who defend them. And i despise how they treat our community. You're a criminal because of the color of your skin to them.

You did nothing wrong you kept it moving, you said nothing wrong. You could've been killed whether you answered their questions or didn't.

These pathetic FOOLS. These line hopping goose stepping PUNK female qualitied soft hearted Mary Sue's on this board who agree with those VERMIN! Deserve to be raped by those same COWARDS who wear badges and claim they're the law. They protect NOTHING. They DO nothing good for us. They do nothing RIGHT by us. What these scum sucking bottom feeders don't understand is that if even 1 of them does this thing then the system is FAILED.

You did the right thing. You knew your rights. You knew they couldn't bother you. And you knew they were in the wrong to harass you. You knew they were childish bigots just looking to kill another black man. They can't wait to have an excuse to kill you black men!!!

They WANT too. They GET OFF on it!

To those of you who KNOW the real deal, Po3t and Mainman, Keep on. These other mark ass busters are the type to lay down and say yassah massa. To anything. Just get along looking motherfuckers. Do what massa say....Do what massa tell you to do....da overseer ova dere....

Nothing but a bunch of bitches. Make me sick. And you call yourselves MEN. You are not men. You are cowards. Make me sick.

 

[WhenTheGoingGetsTtuff]

BGOL expects that you should have stopped immediately, taken your cap off and apologized to the officer for making your rounds at a late hour.

Officer: "Where are you going citizen?
Plebian: "Ohhhh... I'm just doing errands officer, I know I look guilty since I'm a black man in America. Hell you're just doing your job.... I'm certain that if I was a white man jogging at 3 or 4 am you would've stopped to ask the same questions. You're doing a great job... thanks for keeping the streets safe!!!" *Bows head to show fealty to the State*
Officer: "Thanks for entertaining my bullshit questions Plebe "

 

[ballscout1]

Whatever to all this I am waiting for the remix thread.

I was walking around the neighborhood at 3am and the punk ass po po rolled up so I flexed and told that soft mofokr I know my rights.

Then him and his boys gave me a pumkinhead.

Then they lied to the judge and told him I made an aggressive move and they feared for their safety.

Now I live in a hood that is mostly white and Hispanic. I opened my eyes and everybody was in their window watching this travesty of justice and not one of those no good fukkas would be a witness for me.

In fact some old white lady testilied that she called the police because there was a strange black man that looked up to no good.

When I got out of the prison ward of the hospital and was released on bail, I went home and my god damn electric had been turned off because I never did get a chance to put the bill in the mail that night.

 

[Man_Of_STeeL]

So you think answering a direct question w/ a direct answer would've lead to the wrong path...but answering a direct question w/ a smart aleck remark and an indirect response would lead to the right one...?

once again...i don't feel i was bein' a smart-ass ... i would never mouth off to a cop (even though the first amendment gives me the right to) ... but i'm not gonna lay down for him...

i coulda been nicer and still asserted my rights ...

but to answer the main question you posed ... i know these cops out here will continue to try to extract information from me because a similar situation happened to me ... 5 years earlier ...this time i was in my car... near my job ..in an affluent mostly white and mostly republican neighborhood ...

now i'm a black man in a compact car ... in a neighborhood where everyone drives mercedes and bmw's and bentleys, etc ..

i'm travelin' north and i get to the intersection ...as the light is turnin' red ... shortly thereafter .. a police officer travelin' west ... approaches the intersection and stops ... i look over to the right and i see him ... so i do my mental check... is my registration up to date ... is my seatbelt on...whats the speed limit on this street ... so i feel like i'm good ...

now his light turns green first ... and he's in the middle lane... but instead goin' straight or turnin' left which are the only legal maneuvers from that lane he's in.. he makes a right ...and pulls over to the side of the road and jus waits...with his car idlin' ...

now i'm like..ok..what the fuck is goin' on....but then i'm like mayne it probably ain't got nothin' to do with me ..so my light finally turns green..so i pull off and pass by him...and wouldn't you know this dude pulls off as soon as i pass him and gets right behind me...

now i know the speed limit is 35 .. so i go 30 ... i'm in the left lane and i need to get over to get on the freeway ... so i make sure i hit my blinker ... and check my mirror ...then check my blindspot ... you know..all that shit they teach you in driving school... i'm like this mufucka ain't gonna get me on speedin' or makin' an unsafe lane change or no other bullshit technicality ...

so i get over into the right lane and slow down a bit as prepare to get on the freeway on-ramp... when all of sudden the cop lights me up and is signalin' for me to pull over ... now i'm stunned ... i'm thinkin' what the fuck could i have possibly done to warrant bein' pullover ... my seatbelt is on and i didn't even try to sneak and put it on when i saw the officer..it was already on...

so cop comes up to my window...i roll it..he asks me for license, registration, proof of insurance...i give it to him...now here come the questions...

officer:hows it goin'?
me: fine
officer: where ya headed?
me:home
officer:where's home?
me:long beach
officer:where ya comin' from?
me:work
officer:where do ya work?
me:ABC, INC.
officer:do you have any proof you work there?
me: (grabs a binder from the passenger seat with the ABC logo on it and hands it to him)
officer:you ever been arrested?
me: no
officer: ok i'm gonna check out your info, hang tight for me, i'll be right back..

(he still at this point has not told me what infraction i violated)

5 minutes later... he returns ...
officer: listened, everything checked out, i pulled you over for a broken brake light, be sure to get that taken care of (handing me my paperwork) , you're free to go... have a nice day....

so this officer pulled me over and interrogated me for 5-10 minutes over a busted brake light..not busted tail light...because my lights weren't on...a busted brake light...

that stop should have taken 30 seconds ..in my opinion....

officer: hey, jus wanted to let you know your brake light is out...
me: oh, okay, thanks, officer.
officer: no problem. have a nice day.

 

[losbreal]

Just from knowing some cops walking around that late at night allows cops to stop you b/c that is considered suspicious activity. It's not normal brah for ppl to do that so thats why the cop could fuck wit u

 

[WhenTheGoingGetsTtuff]

[FLASH]http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/e/16711680/wshhG62Zh63aFx4977gr[/FLASH]

Black men monitoring and recording the pigs. Showing them abusing us, attempting to abuse us is what we need as a PEOPLE.

Stand up black MEN in this place who refuse to be living in a country they pay taxes IN. And are harassed and subjugated to violence and death by the police state.

Show them for the lies they tell, show them that they are JUST HUMAN. They are not a higher authority. They are human just like YOU are. And you have rights as they have rights. If their job is to maintain law, then maintain the LAW and don't make up their own, and don't abuse that law.

Every black person needs to be carrying around a video device to show these pigs for what they are.

 

[DarkOne]

I hate cops. Hate. I find them useless thugs. I would compare them to a gang, a bunch of uncouth gangstas. I despise them. I despise all those who defend them. And i despise how they treat our community. You're a criminal because of the color of your skin to them.

You did nothing wrong you kept it moving, you said nothing wrong. You could've been killed whether you answered their questions or didn't.

These pathetic FOOLS. These line hopping goose stepping PUNK female qualitied soft hearted Mary Sue's on this board who agree with those VERMIN! Deserve to be raped by those same COWARDS who wear badges and claim they're the law. They protect NOTHING. They DO nothing good for us. They do nothing RIGHT by us. What these scum sucking bottom feeders don't understand is that if even 1 of them does this thing then the system is FAILED.

You did the right thing. You knew your rights. You knew they couldn't bother you. And you knew they were in the wrong to harass you. You knew they were childish bigots just looking to kill another black man. They can't wait to have an excuse to kill you black men!!!

They WANT too. They GET OFF on it!

To those of you who KNOW the real deal, Po3t and Mainman, Keep on. These other mark ass busters are the type to lay down and say yassah massa. To anything. Just get along looking motherfuckers. Do what massa say....Do what massa tell you to do....da overseer ova dere....

Nothing but a bunch of bitches. Make me sick. And you call yourselves MEN. You are not men. You are cowards. Make me sick.

That time of the month , huh ?

 

[P03t]

BGOL expects that you should have stopped immediately, taken your cap off and apologized to the officer for making your rounds at a late hour.

Officer: "Where are you going citizen?
Plebian: "Ohhhh... I'm just doing errands officer, I know I look guilty since I'm a black man in America. Hell you're just doing your job.... I'm certain that if I was a white man jogging at 3 or 4 am you would've stopped to ask the same questions. You're doing a great job... thanks for keeping the streets safe!!!" *Bows head to show fealty to the State*
Officer: "Thanks for entertaining my bullshit questions Plebe "

basically....

some shook ass cats in this thread.....I'm not stroking a cop's ego....FOH

 

[sharkbait28]

Whatever to all this I am waiting for the remix thread.

I was walking around the neighborhood at 3am and the punk ass po po rolled up so I flexed and told that soft mofokr I know my rights.

Then him and his boys gave me a pumkinhead.

Then they lied to the judge and told him I made an aggressive move and they feared for their safety.

Now I live in a hood that is mostly white and Hispanic. I opened my eyes and everybody was in their window watching this travesty of justice and not one of those no good fukkas would be a witness for me.

In fact some old white lady testilied that she called the police because there was a strange black man that looked up to no good.

When I got out of the prison ward of the hospital and was released on bail, I went home and my god damn electric had been turned off because I never did get a chance to put the bill in the mail that night.

That's right Plebeians!!! Take heed of this intelligent cautionary tale!