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Ron Paul Flunks History
I've noticed that a few of my conservative Facebook friends have linked to the recent debate between Paul Krugman and Ron Paul on Bloomberg. Some of them are embarrassed to find that Krugman was the more convincing participant.
I have a theory as to why. In that short interview Ron Paul revealed that his school of Austrian economics is more about assertions and ideology then it is about empirical data.
I'll give one example that stuck out to me. In Part 1 of the Mediaite video (at 6:00) Ron Paul argues that there was a lot of economic growth after World War Two because:
Ron Paul's gloss over history has a grain of truth and a giant problem. The truth is that America did take a step down from having a war-time command economy. The problem is that Ron Paul makes it sound as if government then immediately shrunk. He even says taxes were "slashed".
Here is a chart from the Tax Policy Center showing what the historical highest marginal tax rates were.
During World War Two, the rate is between 81% and 94%. After World War Two, it is cut down to a low of 82% before being raised back to 91%, which is where it stays till the Kennedy years, during which it drops to a slightly lower 70%.
If this is what Ron Paul thinks it looks like when American liberals lose what does it look like when they win?
There are many more examples that have been cited by deregulated until 1979, and yes, that was by Jimmy Carter.
After World War Two government was bigger than Ron Paul admits. Krugman was making the point that during the era when taxes on America's richest were highest and the country was most regulated, the country as a whole was better off. That is a very important question to be able to answer, and it is not clear that Paul has even grappled with the implications of that data at all.
Ron Paul Flunks History
I've noticed that a few of my conservative Facebook friends have linked to the recent debate between Paul Krugman and Ron Paul on Bloomberg. Some of them are embarrassed to find that Krugman was the more convincing participant.
I have a theory as to why. In that short interview Ron Paul revealed that his school of Austrian economics is more about assertions and ideology then it is about empirical data.
I'll give one example that stuck out to me. In Part 1 of the Mediaite video (at 6:00) Ron Paul argues that there was a lot of economic growth after World War Two because:
After World War Two a lot of the debt was liquidated, but guess what else we did. The troops were coming home…big government liberals wanted to have job problems, they weren't put into place. we cut spending by some 60%, we slashed taxes, finally the depression ended.
Ron Paul's gloss over history has a grain of truth and a giant problem. The truth is that America did take a step down from having a war-time command economy. The problem is that Ron Paul makes it sound as if government then immediately shrunk. He even says taxes were "slashed".
Here is a chart from the Tax Policy Center showing what the historical highest marginal tax rates were.
During World War Two, the rate is between 81% and 94%. After World War Two, it is cut down to a low of 82% before being raised back to 91%, which is where it stays till the Kennedy years, during which it drops to a slightly lower 70%.
If this is what Ron Paul thinks it looks like when American liberals lose what does it look like when they win?
There are many more examples that have been cited by deregulated until 1979, and yes, that was by Jimmy Carter.
After World War Two government was bigger than Ron Paul admits. Krugman was making the point that during the era when taxes on America's richest were highest and the country was most regulated, the country as a whole was better off. That is a very important question to be able to answer, and it is not clear that Paul has even grappled with the implications of that data at all.
Daily Kos is doing a match up between Ron Paul and Santorum. It basically is calling out the GOP on the BS, and there are rankings for who will take top prize. They gave a rundown of Paul's stellar history. My brother loves this guy too.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/05/08/1089783/-GOP-Madness-Round-1-Match-14
As early as December 1989, a section of his Investment Letter, titled “What To Expect for the 1990s,” predicted that “Racial Violence Will Fill Our Cities” because “mostly black welfare recipients will feel justified in stealing from mostly white ‘haves.’” Two months later, a newsletter warned of “The Coming Race War,” and, in November 1990, an item advised readers, “If you live in a major city, and can leave, do so. If not, but you can have a rural retreat, for investment and refuge, buy it.” In June 1991, an entry on racial disturbances in Washington, DC’s Adams Morgan neighborhood was titled, “Animals Take Over the D.C. Zoo.” “This is only the first skirmish in the race war of the 1990s,” the newsletter predicted. In an October 1992 item about urban crime, the newsletter’s author--presumably Paul--wrote, “I’ve urged everyone in my family to know how to use a gun in self defense. For the animals are coming.”
more at the source link: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/05/08/1089783/-GOP-Madness-Round-1-Match-14
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/05/08/1089783/-GOP-Madness-Round-1-Match-14
As early as December 1989, a section of his Investment Letter, titled “What To Expect for the 1990s,” predicted that “Racial Violence Will Fill Our Cities” because “mostly black welfare recipients will feel justified in stealing from mostly white ‘haves.’” Two months later, a newsletter warned of “The Coming Race War,” and, in November 1990, an item advised readers, “If you live in a major city, and can leave, do so. If not, but you can have a rural retreat, for investment and refuge, buy it.” In June 1991, an entry on racial disturbances in Washington, DC’s Adams Morgan neighborhood was titled, “Animals Take Over the D.C. Zoo.” “This is only the first skirmish in the race war of the 1990s,” the newsletter predicted. In an October 1992 item about urban crime, the newsletter’s author--presumably Paul--wrote, “I’ve urged everyone in my family to know how to use a gun in self defense. For the animals are coming.”
more at the source link: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/05/08/1089783/-GOP-Madness-Round-1-Match-14
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Ron Paul: I take Social Security checks but will eliminate it for others
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Ron Paul Makes Campaign Stop In Whimsical Jalopy
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Ron Paul Starts a Home-School Curriculum
Ron Paul Starts a Home-School Curriculum
By Mark Whittington | Yahoo! Contributor Network
Mon, Apr 8, 2013
According to a story in the Daily Caller, Ron Paul, a libertarian-minded former representative from Texas, has developed his own home-school curriculum for grades K-12 based on his ideas of individual liberty.
The Ron Paul Curriculum
According to the Ron Paul Curriculum, the course of study is a work in progress, but with free education for grades K-5 and courses for grades 6-12 available for members only. Much of the course material will consist of online lectures, which can be reviewed by the students, and primary source material (i.e. no special textbooks.) The weekly school schedule will consist of watching lectures and reading source material for four days with the fifth being for review of the material and for grades 5 and up writing essays to be posted on a student's website.
Courses to be offered
The Ron Paul Curriculum will teach history and literature from a free market perspective, math, science, the U.S. Constitution, economics, geography, and how to start and run a home business. The philosophy of the course of study will be from Paul's perspective of liberty, with instruction of how it is under attack and how it can be reclaimed. Other cultures will be studied with a view of the relationship between literature and history. The philosophy and history of liberty and "its rivals" will be compared and contrasted. The courses are described as "academically rigorous" based on primary source material. Students will be encourage to teach one another, with the coursework self taught above grade 5 with parents reviewing their children's progress.
Goals of the Ron Paul Curriculum
According to the introductory video, students having completed the Ron Paul Curriculum will be able to speak and write effectively, run a website, run a YouTube channel, understand math, science, the histories of western civilization and America, the United States Constitution, the interaction between literature and historical development, the influence of Christianity on world history, and the Austrian school of economics, start a home business, and defend free market principles.
Issues of accreditation
In a separate essay, Gary North, Director of Curriculum Development for the Ron Paul Curriculum, states that accreditation from any state agency will not be sought on the idea that this will require compromise on the makeup of the courses offered. North suggest that parents who might have to deal with state intervention, say the visit of a truant office, should sign up with a pro-home-schooling organization called the Home School Legal Defense Association, which helps to provide legal defense for home-schooling families who find themselves in conflict with state education entities.
Laws regulating home schools vary, but in the state of Texas, where Ron Paul hails from, the regulations are simple and straightforward, according to Home Education and Responsible Teacher (HEART). In Texas, a home school is considered a private school for purposes of state regulation. Such schools are required to teach children "reading, spelling, grammar, mathematics, and good citizenship." State officials, such as truant officers, are not permitted to visit the home school but must put their concerns about the operation of a home school in writing. The operator of a home school is then required to respond in writing in a "timely manner."
http://news.yahoo.com/ron-paul-starts-home-school-curriculum-162400141.html
Ron Paul Starts a Home-School Curriculum
By Mark Whittington | Yahoo! Contributor Network
Mon, Apr 8, 2013
According to a story in the Daily Caller, Ron Paul, a libertarian-minded former representative from Texas, has developed his own home-school curriculum for grades K-12 based on his ideas of individual liberty.
The Ron Paul Curriculum
According to the Ron Paul Curriculum, the course of study is a work in progress, but with free education for grades K-5 and courses for grades 6-12 available for members only. Much of the course material will consist of online lectures, which can be reviewed by the students, and primary source material (i.e. no special textbooks.) The weekly school schedule will consist of watching lectures and reading source material for four days with the fifth being for review of the material and for grades 5 and up writing essays to be posted on a student's website.
Courses to be offered
The Ron Paul Curriculum will teach history and literature from a free market perspective, math, science, the U.S. Constitution, economics, geography, and how to start and run a home business. The philosophy of the course of study will be from Paul's perspective of liberty, with instruction of how it is under attack and how it can be reclaimed. Other cultures will be studied with a view of the relationship between literature and history. The philosophy and history of liberty and "its rivals" will be compared and contrasted. The courses are described as "academically rigorous" based on primary source material. Students will be encourage to teach one another, with the coursework self taught above grade 5 with parents reviewing their children's progress.
Goals of the Ron Paul Curriculum
According to the introductory video, students having completed the Ron Paul Curriculum will be able to speak and write effectively, run a website, run a YouTube channel, understand math, science, the histories of western civilization and America, the United States Constitution, the interaction between literature and historical development, the influence of Christianity on world history, and the Austrian school of economics, start a home business, and defend free market principles.
Issues of accreditation
In a separate essay, Gary North, Director of Curriculum Development for the Ron Paul Curriculum, states that accreditation from any state agency will not be sought on the idea that this will require compromise on the makeup of the courses offered. North suggest that parents who might have to deal with state intervention, say the visit of a truant office, should sign up with a pro-home-schooling organization called the Home School Legal Defense Association, which helps to provide legal defense for home-schooling families who find themselves in conflict with state education entities.
Laws regulating home schools vary, but in the state of Texas, where Ron Paul hails from, the regulations are simple and straightforward, according to Home Education and Responsible Teacher (HEART). In Texas, a home school is considered a private school for purposes of state regulation. Such schools are required to teach children "reading, spelling, grammar, mathematics, and good citizenship." State officials, such as truant officers, are not permitted to visit the home school but must put their concerns about the operation of a home school in writing. The operator of a home school is then required to respond in writing in a "timely manner."
http://news.yahoo.com/ron-paul-starts-home-school-curriculum-162400141.html
Re: Ron Paul Starts a Home-School Curriculum
Once again, teaching liberty without justice. Talk about indoctrination.
They are going to turn out a bunch of Sarah Palins and Rand Pauls.
Once again, teaching liberty without justice. Talk about indoctrination.
They are going to turn out a bunch of Sarah Palins and Rand Pauls.
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Ron Paul on Morton Downey Jr. - 1988
Ron Paul on Morton Downey Jr. - 1988
I like how they just call him names instead of actually coming up with a decent argument.
Make this guy the president already. not m/b opinion
Ron Paul on Morton Downey Jr. - 1988
I like how they just call him names instead of actually coming up with a decent argument.
Make this guy the president already. not m/b opinion