It's not like only people who are unemployed wil receive the 1200k. Everybody(unemployed/employed...hurting/not hurting) who makes below 75k will receive 1200k.
You wanna talk "Tangibles" House Democrats to Pass Their Own Stimulus Bill Despite Ongoing Talks with Mnuchin
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Pelosi politically crushed Trump with this one. You and I were just talking about this. She knew GOP wasn't coming too far up. Held out just long enough so shit don't benefit him for the election and he snapped.
Trump did now what you said GOP should have done before. Called her bluff. Unfortunately for him, he did it after he went full retard and walked away from the table. Had he said he'd do standalone for direct payments on shit that both sides agreed on, he could have exposed her(well fanbois going to fanboi for dems).
Instead, he exposed her hypocrisy AFTER going full retard so people only talking about him going full retard.
Played right into her hands, who are the think tanks for the republkkklan party, they fuckin suck....
trump couldve came out lookin real good if he wouldve said, look lets get this done and
just signed off and made it happen BEFORE the election...
I promise you he wouldve be topping the polls
that gluttonous self serving idiot.... just said you want your checks vote for me or you are not getting one...
doesnt he realize if thats the case, waiting for an election wouldnt it make sense to wait for the better deal.
for the millions of front line workers and their families the demoncrats got a much better deal on the table...
the only thing saving the republikkklans is voting fuckery....
and they are going to go fuckin hard with the voting fuckery this year..
this I promise..
the question is will they get away with it, like they did in 2000--------2008
WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU ROOTING FOR IN THIS? You want 4 more years of trump?
So you back to admitting that this was a political bet she made that paid off? See. How hard was that?
It was my take she didn't need to make this move to beat Trump. Trump was cooked already. She decided to unbuckle his pants and go to work. Bent him over. Made him snap on twitter yesterday and here we are.
American people are just innocent bystanders in all this.
All I've read from you is that Pelosi should bend over and say thank you sir to everything the Republicans want, how they want it. If not, then she's the one playing politics and she's the one not looking out for the American people.
Bruh just tell us you're a republican (or republican leaning) and you're voting for Trump.
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back to admitting...nigga I never said it wasn't. again do you want 4 more years of trump?
Fuck out of here with that bullshit. From the start I said this was a fucking negotiation you dumb shit. For example, dems start at 600. GOP at 200. In a negotiation, what is the end game? Somewhere in the middle. Never, ever said she should bend over. Said in the real world when negotiating with bitches who don't want to do shit you take the best deal possible, not the best deal in your head. Only to a bitch made sheep who is a diehard does that sound like GOP or Trump support.
Cats like you acting like straight up bitches. Don't even quote me no more with your bitchmade tactics.
Wow what an emotional punk (in the real sense of the meaning) you are.
Like I said you have been ragging dems and Pelosi every chance you got.
The only negotiating you have been calling for is one where Pelosi is the one giving in and never the other said coming to the middle.
I don't want 4 more years of Trump.
Now you answer me. Yesterday, you went on about corps and how that was just the GOP. Today, Nancy said she'd do the standalone for the corps(airlines) and not for direct payments for us(with the number they both agreed upon. Is that in the best interest of struggling Americans? Yes or no.
In the immediate no but in the big picture I'd rather not have:
4 more years of trump
a conservative-dominated SCOTUS
a stimulus that gives me less money
even further down the road:
trumps bullshit campaign pledge of the "platinum plan" for the black community that will get watered down just like the "opportunity zones"
a bullshit counter to the 1619 project that downplays slavery even than what's already taught
and anything that white nationalist and his cronies are cooking up.
Am I happy with the dems?? hell naw but if I gotta make a choice between the two..AND WE ALL DO....then I'm ridin' with them until a better choice happens.
I don't even know why we going back and forth then. We both agree this is political. Pelosi just removed any doubt by refusing standalone stimulus with baked in numbers. This validates any argument of her not wanting money to go to the people/economy because it would help Trump. You get it. Other don't.
The only point you and I disagree on is whether or not it needed to be done OR she should continue to do it. I think dems got this election in the bag without it. You feel they need to keep the pressure on.
That don't make me a republican or trump supporter. Shit. I want the money she is proposing, but was prepared for good faith negotiating. I stand to get 4k from the stimulus and the ol lady was on UE. I just told her back in July that she should expect $400 and the stimulus would be a repeat of CARES. Didn't think Pelosi would go hardcore political, but I recognized why she did. Just don't agree with it. Trump is gone either way.
Even the dogs eat the crumbs that fall from their master's table.
Stimulus negotiations: Trump signs off on a $1.8 trillion counter offer to Pelosi
(CNN) President Donald Trump has signed off on a roughly $1.8 trillion stimulus offer to be presented to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, according to two people with knowledge of the decision, marking the highest topline dollar figure the administration has put on the table to this point.
The direct involvement of Trump himself and his willingness to put down an offer far above the preferences of congressional Republicans adds a dynamic new element to long-stalled negotiations. Trump, to this point, mostly relied on Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin and White House chief of staff Mark Meadows to handle the details of the talks with Pelosi.
The $1.8 trillion figure is up from a $1.6 trillion offer from earlier this week, though it remains below the $2.2 trillion in the bill passed last week by House Democrats -- and Pelosi has been unwilling to go below $2 trillion in negotiations up to this point, people familiar with the matter say.
The details in the offer remain as important, if not more so, than the topline dollar figure. The specifics are not currently known, though they are expected to be presented to Pelosi later Friday.
The movement from the Trump administration underscores the colossal stakes at play regarding relief in response to the Covid-19 pandemic and its economic fallout. The coronavirus, which is still surging in parts of the country, has killed more than 213,000 people in the US, and shutdowns in response to Covid have had broad economic consequences.
A wide-ranging package would attempt to address the twin economic and public health crises that continue to play out -- and top economic officials including Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell have warned inaction could have dire consequences.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/09/politics/donald-trump-health-coronavirus-election-2020/index.html
But whether the new White House offer will lead to a breakthrough in talks that for months have remained stuck in a ditch is unclear.
www.cnn.com
(CNN) President Donald Trump has signed off on a roughly $1.8 trillion stimulus offer to be presented to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, according to two people with knowledge of the decision, marking the highest topline dollar figure the administration has put on the table to this point.
The direct involvement of Trump himself and his willingness to put down an offer far above the preferences of congressional Republicans adds a dynamic new element to long-stalled negotiations. Trump, to this point, mostly relied on Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin and White House chief of staff Mark Meadows to handle the details of the talks with Pelosi.
The $1.8 trillion figure is up from a $1.6 trillion offer from earlier this week, though it remains below the $2.2 trillion in the bill passed last week by House Democrats -- and Pelosi has been unwilling to go below $2 trillion in negotiations up to this point, people familiar with the matter say.
The details in the offer remain as important, if not more so, than the topline dollar figure. The specifics are not currently known, though they are expected to be presented to Pelosi later Friday.
The movement from the Trump administration underscores the colossal stakes at play regarding relief in response to the Covid-19 pandemic and its economic fallout. The coronavirus, which is still surging in parts of the country, has killed more than 213,000 people in the US, and shutdowns in response to Covid have had broad economic consequences.
A wide-ranging package would attempt to address the twin economic and public health crises that continue to play out -- and top economic officials including Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell have warned inaction could have dire consequences.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/09/politics/donald-trump-health-coronavirus-election-2020/index.html
But whether the new White House offer will lead to a breakthrough in talks that for months have remained stuck in a ditch is unclear.
Stimulus negotiations: Trump signs off on a $1.8 trillion counter offer to Pelosi
President Donald Trump has signed off on a roughly $1.8 trillion stimulus offer to be presented to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, according to two people with knowledge of the decision, marking the highest topline dollar figure the administration has put on the table to this point.
www.cnn.com
trump is like jason or Michael Myers... don't turn your back so quickly...remember hillary was supposed to easily vanquish him.
but in other news...
Prospects for more stimulus checks, coronavirus relief fade as latest offer from Trump draws opposition from Republicans and Democrats
Senator Republicans and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) raised objections Saturday to a new $1.8 trillion economic relief proposal from the Trump administration, greatly dimming the prospect for a coronavirus relief deal before the election.
On a conference call Saturday morning with Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin and White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows, the Republicans were wary of the overall price tag of the bill and expressed opposition to a number of specific provisions, including an expansion of Affordable Care Act tax credits they say raises concerns about taxpayer funding of abortions. Democrats dispute that interpretation of the provision, but nonetheless it amounts to a poison pill for many Republicans, the people said.
Meanwhile, in a letter sent to House Democrats Saturday, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said that the new White House offer amounts to “one step forward, two steps back,” indicating that it would be unacceptable without significant changes.
Pelosi outlined multiple concerns with the proposal Mnuchin offered, saying it did not contain enough spending for unemployment insurance, state and local aid, child care, or other Democratic priorities. She said it also includes “reckless” language on liability protections for businesses and others. House Democrats also have been pushing legislation with a $2.2 trillion price tag.
“When the president talks about wanting a bigger relief package, his proposal appears to mean that he wants more money at his discretion to grant or withhold, rather than agreeing on language prescribing how we honor our workers, crush the virus and put money in the pockets of workers,” Pelosi wrote.
Nonetheless, Pelosi wrote that she still remained “hopeful that yesterday’s developments will move us closer to an agreement on a relief package that addresses the health and economic crisis facing America’s families.”
Bidens close the dems will retain the house and if they get an edge in the senate you're looking at a 2.5 TRILLION stimulus package...1200+600 a week plus all the other things for *ERRBODY!!!
and yall niggas talking about don't vote
*(those that qualify)
and yall niggas talking about don't vote
*(those that qualify)
At this point I'm tired of hearing about the it. Pass it already or do something! Shit or get off the fucking pot!
See republikkklans
Are fucking stupid.
And they kept Mitch and lindsey...
They are begging for obscurity.
And just may achieve it...their supporters are so satisfied with
Immediate gratification and winning by any means necessary
Caught up with them.
Democrats are up on all there racist voting fuckery..
But if this shit ends up a fucking the
I'm going to laugh my ass off at this fucking monkey show...
Seems like they afraid to give Biden
The victory...
shit aint tangilbe for me.....I haven't gotten any stimulus or anything else.
so fuck their bribes to the underemployed.
so fuck their bribes to the underemployed.
its only bribes to the people that didn't get anything
No it's exactly what I said cause if you weren't underemployed then you wouldn't need that lil bullshit..its only bribes to the people that didn't get anything
and if you really think it helped just watch when those evictions start..
if youre not underemployed and don't need that lil bullshit then what are you complaining about??
and you have nothing to contributeThread been inactive since November.
You white liberals are full of shit and more racist than MAGA. GOP doesn't come on BGOL to cosplay Blackness and call people niggas all day.
Where them tangibles CAC? You got all 3 branches and ain't did shit.
I''m complaining because he is in office due to the black vote and ain't doing shit for black people
And that bullshit is a distraction to make it seem like he is..
Is it that hard really?
And that bullshit is a distraction to make it seem like he is..
Is it that hard really?
its not a distraction to the people who could really use the money. As for the rest thats what AOC and the rest of them are arguing for.
Biden is who you wanted. He got the black vote what did black people get in return?
an increase in the child tax credit.. something intended to reduce childhood poverty dramatically. Since the black community is largely negatively impacted by poverty we should be positively impacted by the measure.
now considering the fact that SOMEBODY was gonna take that office....who did you want in 2020?? NAME ANYONE OTHER THAN BIDEN OR TRUMP. Just toss out a name of a candidate you liked...
Do you even understand that with 18/hr minimum wage people will not be able to keep up with the money created the last 18 months? Do you understand that how fucked people are goes past blue and red at this point? I mean it always has, but now it is crazy as hell.
People are fucked now more than ever before. Wealth gap is about to get even fucking crazier. The folks who can least afford to are being distracted the most by crumbs.
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