YOU Ever BUSTED One of Your Chicks CREEPING,,,

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Just read this shit over the last 2 days. As always very insightfull. I really would like to thank the melonpecan bitch for her input. That shit along with dudes email from the bitch, really show the crazy fucked up reasoning that women use. For them its all about emotion and attention.
 
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Don't laugh it might be your girl that I'm talkin' 'bout...
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This is especially funny to me because the girl in the vid on the phone is a chic from NJ I used to smash back in the 90's!
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yeah this chick had a other dude drive her to my crib like 1 in the morning but she didn't know i was looking out my window... she kept telling me shee in the cab and he don't know how to get to me...... at that time maybe 20 min tops and its a basic run. i did say shit to her on that but i smutted her out preety bad that night straight GP
 
I was hitting this girl for like a str8 year. Abut 6 months into after I had just beat it up, she had just got back from a date mind you, we were laying in bed and she was like "You know, I figure if I keep fuckin you, then I can do my 3 month rule with the guys that I go out with." That just blew my mind, made me start thinkin, well shit how many girls have told me they wait so many weeks or months to fuck and were gettin drilled after I dropped them off. Women aint SHIT!
 
I was hitting this girl for like a str8 year. Abut 6 months into after I had just beat it up, she had just got back from a date mind you, we were laying in bed and she was like "You know, I figure if I keep fuckin you, then I can do my 3 month rule with the guys that I go out with." That just blew my mind, made me start thinkin, well shit how many girls have told me they wait so many weeks or months to fuck and were gettin drilled after I dropped them off. Women aint SHIT!

what's wrong with that :confused: I mean really that's the right way to do it if you ask me... that shows that she's only smashing you to get her rocks off, an when she find a guy she like, she'll prolly stop fucking you an start fucking him...

are would you rather her fuck all the guys
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moral of the story, don't fall for that i'm celibate shit
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I just read this entire thread & it needs to be bumped so we can hear the 2010 stories about some of these nothing ass bitches.

Also, this thread has so much good advice for a young man like myself on how you should handle a situation like this where feelings are involved.

A lot of u dudes had every reason in the world to do harm to these scandalous females, but u kept it mature & didn't mess up your lives because of a crazy bitch with convoluted logic.
 
I was hitting this girl for like a str8 year. Abut 6 months into after I had just beat it up, she had just got back from a date mind you, we were laying in bed and she was like "You know, I figure if I keep fuckin you, then I can do my 3 month rule with the guys that I go out with." That just blew my mind, made me start thinkin, well shit how many girls have told me they wait so many weeks or months to fuck and were gettin drilled after I dropped them off. Women aint SHIT!

... or for some, they say no sex until Marriage :smh:
 
The setup: I was living together with my girl, we were about a year into out relationship. We didnt have many problems just the usual stuff. Throughout our relationship her ex used to call her, he used to play in NFL but had not been playing for a year. That didn't bother me because I had no reason not to trust her.

Fast Forward: Me and my girl get into a major argument New Years Eve. Since the fight, things haven't been the same. So one week she tells me that she's going to see her god son over the weekend and that she'll be back Tuesday. This was strange because her god son only lived 3 hours away. But I didnt say shit, she left that Saturday morning. Sunday night I get a funny feeling about shit and decide to check the browser history..... I see that she checked in for a flight but I could tell where to, but I saw weather forecast for Houston ( Her ex had recently signed with the Texans ) and I put 2 and 2 together. At this point I was sick.... I didnt know whether to call her or just wait it out until she got home. I decided to call but she didnt answer... I left a VM saying "Hope you're enjoying yourself, and that I would like for her to bring me Houston Teaxans shot glass". She didnt return my call until the next morning and I could tell she was sick. I stayed calm and told her we would talk about when she got home.

Game Over: She flew in Tuesday night. I was beyond mad. But I wanted to hear what she had to say. She admitted about going to Houston to see her ex. I asked if she fucked him and she said no..... She thought she was in the clear but I asked her if she sucked his dick then there was silence...... she said that she got drunk and gave him head, you want to talk about a nigga being tight!!!! At that point I had to "G-check" myself. Keep in mind we were still living together and had 6 months left on the lease. From that point forward my sole objective was to break this bitch completely down mentally and make her pay for what she did. By the end of the lease she was ready to kill herself....
 
The setup: I was living together with my girl, we were about a year into out relationship. We didnt have many problems just the usual stuff. Throughout our relationship her ex used to call her, he used to play in NFL but had not been playing for a year. That didn't bother me because I had no reason not to trust her.

Fast Forward: Me and my girl get into a major argument New Years Eve. Since the fight, things haven't been the same. So one week she tells me that she's going to see her god son over the weekend and that she'll be back Tuesday. This was strange because her god son only lived 3 hours away. But I didnt say shit, she left that Saturday morning. Sunday night I get a funny feeling about shit and decide to check the browser history..... I see that she checked in for a flight but I could tell where to, but I saw weather forecast for Houston ( Her ex had recently signed with the Texans ) and I put 2 and 2 together. At this point I was sick.... I didnt know whether to call her or just wait it out until she got home. I decided to call but she didnt answer... I left a VM saying "Hope you're enjoying yourself, and that I would like for her to bring me Houston Teaxans shot glass". She didnt return my call until the next morning and I could tell she was sick. I stayed calm and told her we would talk about when she got home.

Game Over: She flew in Tuesday night. I was beyond mad. But I wanted to hear what she had to say. She admitted about going to Houston to see her ex. I asked if she fucked him and she said no..... She thought she was in the clear but I asked her if she sucked his dick then there was silence...... she said that she got drunk and gave him head, you want to talk about a nigga being tight!!!! At that point I had to "G-check" myself. Keep in mind we were still living together and had 6 months left on the lease. From that point forward my sole objective was to break this bitch completely down mentally and make her pay for what she did. By the end of the lease she was ready to kill herself....

Damn. Crazy story, bruh. I've been there and I know EXACTLY how mad you were. Your Houston Texans shot glass line was awesome.

BTW, your story is YET ANOTHER example of how fickle these women are and how EASY it is for them to cheat and how "the other man" will accomodate the woman's cheating ways (I'm guilty of this as I've been the other man before).

After reading this thread, no man has an excuse to be naive.

Most american men are weak, soon to be mini van driving, giving up their money, having her run the house stead of you type muthafuckas.

WOMEN HATE WEAKNESS AND WILL ABUSE IT. Its a muthafucka in a stick hut in the amazon jungle with 4 bitches and no problems cause he runs his little piece of the world with fucking balls.

All these zombies out here. They dead already, then they wonder why their wife or GF they did everything for is taking it up the ass from rocco the loud mouth asshole type she always says she hated while she has their ass miss the big game to go shop for curtains and shit. :smh::smh::smh::smh::smh::smh:

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This is the best way to prevent your woman from cheating or getting out of line. You've gotta let your nuts hang.
 
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The setup: I was living together with my girl, we were about a year into out relationship. We didnt have many problems just the usual stuff. Throughout our relationship her ex used to call her, he used to play in NFL but had not been playing for a year. That didn't bother me because I had no reason not to trust her.

Fast Forward: Me and my girl get into a major argument New Years Eve. Since the fight, things haven't been the same. So one week she tells me that she's going to see her god son over the weekend and that she'll be back Tuesday. This was strange because her god son only lived 3 hours away. But I didnt say shit, she left that Saturday morning. Sunday night I get a funny feeling about shit and decide to check the browser history..... I see that she checked in for a flight but I could tell where to, but I saw weather forecast for Houston ( Her ex had recently signed with the Texans ) and I put 2 and 2 together. At this point I was sick.... I didnt know whether to call her or just wait it out until she got home. I decided to call but she didnt answer... I left a VM saying "Hope you're enjoying yourself, and that I would like for her to bring me Houston Teaxans shot glass". She didnt return my call until the next morning and I could tell she was sick. I stayed calm and told her we would talk about when she got home.

Game Over: She flew in Tuesday night. I was beyond mad. But I wanted to hear what she had to say. She admitted about going to Houston to see her ex. I asked if she fucked him and she said no..... She thought she was in the clear but I asked her if she sucked his dick then there was silence...... she said that she got drunk and gave him head, you want to talk about a nigga being tight!!!! At that point I had to "G-check" myself. Keep in mind we were still living together and had 6 months left on the lease. From that point forward my sole objective was to break this bitch completely down mentally and make her pay for what she did. By the end of the lease she was ready to kill herself....

What were your methods if you'd like to share them??
 
Its kind of long but a good read. I lost a friendship to a scandalous ass bitch. A friend of mine for over 20 years started dating this chick. They had a great relationship on the outside looking in. She was a "good chick". They started to get serious so he decided to move the chick and her kid in. Eventually, they started to talk about marriage. His place was alittle small so they started talking about buying a house, or should I say him buying a house for them. So he started to work made ot to save for the new house she wanted. She would say how she cant wait to have a family with him and all that bs. One day he asked me to take him to work. She had something to do and her car was in the shop. I agreed and picked him up later in the day. A couple of hours later he called me and asked me to pick him up on his lunch hour because he forgot something at home he needed for work. Reluctantly I agreed. When you enter his apartment if you look straight ahead you see into the bedroom. We get to his house and as he is opening the door I of course am looking straight ahead and I see his girl riding the fuck out of some dude. Im frozen in the doorway and he turns and asks me whats wrong when he notices where im looking and he finally sees what i see.Soon afterward his girl realize that were in the house and she hops off dude and starts to cry and try and explain herself and shit. Dude gets up and acts like he wants to fight and shit and I was looking forward to putting my foot in his ass. He's yelling at us asking who the fuck we were and why are we in his girls apartment. Come to find out she's been seeing dude for about 2 months. This bitch runs out the house leaving dude there stranded and shit. He tells us his story I ended up dropping him off at the bus station. My man goes back to work heart broken like a mutha. Im doing all I can to cheer him up, bitch aint shit, lucky you found out know before you got married and all that shit. I called him the next day to check in on him he said he was doing ok but just wanted to be alone. I went to his house 2 days later and this bitch is in the house. I mean mug her and pull him aside and ask why is this bitch at his house. They were talking and she explained why she cheated, she was lonely because he was working so much and she felt neglected. Im heated now and I reminded him that he was working to buy that bitch the house she wanted so bad that she wasnt helping to save for. What he said broke my heart, he turned to me and said stop calling my girl a bitch. I was floored, I said what the fuck did you say, he reiterated, dont call my girl a bitch. He forgave her and if I cant accept that we cant be friends anymore. We have been friends since childhood been through thick and thin with each other and he said that shit to me. I felt betrayed but I couldnt be friends with him as long as he was with that chick. I lost every bit of respect for him. That bitch ended up marrying her. We havent spoken in 4 years and I see them damn near everyday. :smh:

Damn
 
So, me and a couple of my workmates were to meet this client in the afternoon over golf so we got off work over lunchtime to change. I get home and see a strange car parked up front but I make nothing much of it. I opened the door and went to the kitchen to have Maria (the housekeeper) make me a sandwich, she was not there so I made one myself. 5 minutes later Maria finds me sitting at the kitchen table and she looks at me as if she had seen a ghost. She hurriedly excuses herself and heads for the livingroom, my spidey sense tells me something's up. I follow her and see her scrambling up the stairs, I stop her and tell her to shush, then motioned her to get back to the kitchen. By this time her face had turned white as a sheet, but she had no choice but to do as I instructed.

I go up to the the stairs, and while I walk the corridor, I hear a moan and a semblance of a grunt.Our bedroom is at the far side of the corridor, explaining why I heard nothing while downstairs. The door is slightly ajar making my entry silent. There she is, being screwed by this cac oblivious of my presence. When they finally realized I was there, they did the usual scramble and hide under the sheets thing. :lol:

I pretended to care less, said hey, went over to the wardrobe and changed to my golfshirt and shoes while they stared. As I walked out I said "I have a golf session with a client, I'll see you in the evening?" then to the dude, "why don't you join us for dinner? Alright see ya.." I walked to the garage, grabbed my golf-gear and drove off to the meeting...












































































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Yeah yeah. Movie plot bullshit. Never happened to me, thought I might as well make something up.:lol:
 
After reading all these stories (still ongoin) I realize something. Say maybe between 2-3 generations past divorce rates were not so common and our grandparents and great grandparents are/used to be married to each other forever. Societal mores have become more of a joke now and religion no longer others us to the green pastures that much anymore. If anything, people are using religion to perpetrate some of the foulest stuff around.

. holding hands on the porch, more hand holding, etc. Her grandmother decides that I should propose and that she should say yes, the only time I've ever been engaged..... because I figure that's what Jesus would have me do. After plans fell though the 3rd time, I said fuck it. Haven't spoken to her since. I've been a slut from that point on.

Lets look at this post, this guy was willing to wait and it was an old fashioned sex after marriage thing (of course she was not fo it). If this would have happened pre 20th century, the girl would have been a pariah for life, despised and spat on in the streets. This reminds me of the SCARLET LETTER, wearing it made you an example and a hindrance to fornication and adultery. Am I saying that there were no crazy grimy chics in that era? No, there were enough but most of them were tamed by the potential consequences of creeping. I remember this one movie where a woman was burned at the stake for knowingly taking in a man she knew not to be her husband (the rest of the community/village were convinced it was him returned from war early). Such things kept women's privates under lock and key only to be opened by a husband upon marriage ONLY. I admit that men did however get away with a lot of infidelities and used to visit brothels but even then many (90-95%) were faithful to their wives to maintain their social standing, respectability and also for the purposes of maintaining the integrity of their business. Woe be unto your business if you were suddenly discovered to be of low moral standing, we are talking about nobody coming to your grains shop for months. We cannot also forget that the single parent phenomenon was almost unheard of, making almost all of the women/girls have a solid or at least semi-solid paternal installation.

Lets think about it, young women never walked around alone and never went on dates without a chaperon. where would the opportunity to cheat/creep or fornicate arise? We had governesses teaching young women about life, responsibility and their role in society - where is that guidance now? For all their
young lives, girls (and boys) through teaching and examples all around them were ingrained with purity of marriage and relationships, carrying it with them, teaching it to their children even unto their dying bed

WE have all read or heard our parents talk about waiting. Nowadays a guy goes abroad for a month because of work or war and the woman/girlfriend/dude at home cannot hold it and HAVE to creep. In the olden days women used to wait years for their betrothed, whether it a man or a woman. Engagements would span 10 years, and remember no sex, not even once before marriage.

I know women will be all up in arms saying that women then were exploited, trampled and treated like lesser beings but remember, since the beginning of time many/majority of wars had their origins from between a woman's legs. Pussy has ruled the world for longer than we care to think. Women have always been held on a pedestal, purest of gems and to be only 'owned' by ONE MAN.

I am telling more stories pardon me. I know of this one story, that actually happened, dated at around 1940-1960. This woman got married to a guy who was rich and her family was not so badly off themselves. At around the age of 35, and her husband at 40, the husband took to a young woman and had an affair with her. The woman found out two months later but did not confront the man. Instead, she treated him even better while at the same time giving him more space. She patiently waited for the man to get over his mid-life crisis and realize that she still was there, waiting for him. When the affair spanned 6 months, she could no longer bear it as before. She found out that the young woman was a slut so she very subtly arranged for her husband to catch her red handed. Suffice to say he realized his mistake and broke the hypnotic the young one had over him. years later at a gathering of friends, she was asked to show her husband how much she loved him (sort of a game to get priceless reactions or something) but she did not have to do it in a way everyone understood. She was about to say something, but instead walked over to a shelf and took out a book. From between the pages she took out an earring and approached her husband. There was a very shocked expression on her husband's face as he looked at the earring. She then all of a sudden threw it into the fireplace and there were tears on the husband's eyes while she kissed and hugged him.....

I will always marvel at the patience and wisdom characteristic of our elders.

Let me ask you this, can you think of ONE girl that you would call a gem, pure and untouched, has become yours to hold and cherish in marriage (exclusively for both of you, no creeping on both sides) till you both grow old and bent, withered then die?



:lol: I hope I made sense, I had to put this out there.
 
What were your methods if you'd like to share them??

She begged me not to leave her. So I played the fence like everything was cool. At this point I knew I had her, so I started playing mind games. I played everything cool like we were going to work things out and that we were going to re-sign the lease, I turned in the 60 day notice without her knowing. Then with about two weeks left on the lease, I made sure the final month was paid.... Me and my boy moved all my shit out while she was at work, so when she came home she was like WTF is going on. Then right on cue I had my female friend knock on the door to give me a ride to my new spot... I haven't talked to that bitch since!!!!
 
Done reading, and all I can do is shake my head till my neck hurts. and yeah the best thing is not to catch feelings. Like her but dont put all those eggs in one rack. Stay sitting on your feet ready to spring to the next scandalous relayy.....
 
She begged me not to leave her. So I played the fence like everything was cool. At this point I knew I had her, so I started playing mind games. I played everything cool like we were going to work things out and that we were going to re-sign the lease, I turned in the 60 day notice without her knowing. Then with about two weeks left on the lease, I made sure the final month was paid.... Me and my boy moved all my shit out while she was at work, so when she came home she was like WTF is going on. Then right on cue I had my female friend knock on the door to give me a ride to my new spot... I haven't talked to that bitch since!!!!

Brother you fooling yourself, no one is harder on a woman than a woman, especially themselves, you can say you forgave her but that's meaningless to a female because they lost ability to forgive themselves as teens. Now they just constructs with tear ducts and the ability to feign emotions that they really don't possess, only two "emotions" are permanant in a female and that is anger/rancor and jealousy. Greed is just their nature by birth.

You didn't do anything but upgrade her plan to find the next negro to pay the rent asap.

Playing everything cool means you went through motions of reationship, going out, being cordial and all that so she didn't lose shit for having a cock in her mouth. You fail to realize that females expect, no, DEMAND s form of retaliation when they do trifling shit and you have a small window of time to administer it before her level of disrespect for you drops even further.

Women mind game themselves into porno and prostitution, you really think us men are jedi-ing them, for real?


The ONLY way you fuck up a female's matrix is by always keeping it gutter straight up with them, and moving how you move with no regard for the game they will spend their ENTIRE lifetime trying to get you to conform to.

So the MINUTE she told you she sucked homeboys dick you was SUPPOSED to pull your dick out and have her suck it on the spot and tell her while she doing it to describe how THAT NIGGA did her mouth. And after you busted in her mouth you was supposed to leave her right there and go leave (say you going wherever) but the leaving was to give you time to get your ego/pride under control because I'm sure you was tight for various reasons.

That would have given you time to decide to keep at it (relationship), knowing you laying in same bed with her and how she did you (If you're one to take a female wanting misc. dick personal) or to cut your ties and move on.

Anytime she felt she needed to talk to you about her "day" you was supposed to say call your ex and beat him in the head with that shit.

I could go on but you get the gist.
 
I bet she was probally just dealing with a regular nigga who was just there to support her emotional needs. You have to think what do a lot of the females have to lose if they cheat on yall niggas. I'm sure a lot of you niggas on BGOL are just regular niggas, you have to have more to offer than just yourself. You have to be able to provide something that she just can't find everyday i.e. discipline, financial security, good sex, good conversation,good looking,personality, something.

A lot of these chicks are in their twenties and really have nothing to lose because they got so many regular niggas clammering for the pussy. A lot of you niggas are just stand ins untill something better comes along, make yourself a stand out who always could do better then the girl you with. Always be looking out for ways to better yourself, this will make your life more fulfilling and you will more than likely have better relationships.

This is so true, especially for Black women who are watching What Chilli Wants, Basketball Wives, Carmello Anthony/LaLa's reality show, Real Housewives, etc. Shows like this and other forms of media (namely music) have them thinking that a "regular nigga" is to be avoided like the plague.
 
The best thing for us brothers to do is ALWAYS STAY IN DEMAND. And what I mean is always take care of your shit and make sure your shit is put together. Always keep up your hygiene,appearance,fitness,wardrobe, and PAPER. Women are impressed by shiny things its that simple, so always stay on your shit. Always keep female friends just to let her know that someone is always in the wing waiting, bring out her natural instinct for competition.

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Brother you fooling yourself, no one is harder on a woman than a woman, especially themselves, you can say you forgave her but that's meaningless to a female because they lost ability to forgive themselves as teens. Now they just constructs with tear ducts and the ability to feign emotions that they really don't possess, only two "emotions" are permanant in a female and that is anger/rancor and jealousy. Greed is just their nature by birth.

You didn't do anything but upgrade her plan to find the next negro to pay the rent asap.

Playing everything cool means you went through motions of reationship, going out, being cordial and all that so she didn't lose shit for having a cock in her mouth. You fail to realize that females expect, no, DEMAND s form of retaliation when they do trifling shit and you have a small window of time to administer it before her level of disrespect for you drops even further.

Women mind game themselves into porno and prostitution, you really think us men are jedi-ing them, for real?


The ONLY way you fuck up a female's matrix is by always keeping it gutter straight up with them, and moving how you move with no regard for the game they will spend their ENTIRE lifetime trying to get you to conform to.

So the MINUTE she told you she sucked homeboys dick you was SUPPOSED to pull your dick out and have her suck it on the spot and tell her while she doing it to describe how THAT NIGGA did her mouth. And after you busted in her mouth you was supposed to leave her right there and go leave (say you going wherever) but the leaving was to give you time to get your ego/pride under control because I'm sure you was tight for various reasons.

That would have given you time to decide to keep at it (relationship), knowing you laying in same bed with her and how she did you (If you're one to take a female wanting misc. dick personal) or to cut your ties and move on.

Anytime she felt she needed to talk to you about her "day" you was supposed to say call your ex and beat him in the head with that shit.

I could go on but you get the gist.

I completely understand what you're saying... That's pretty much what I did. I didnt go into detail because I was responding to another question.
By me playing it cool, I'm talking about not showing any emotion. Women hate that!!

Trust me when I tell you that I took complete advantage of having her at my mercy!!! to be honest I was in a good place, she sucked my dick on command... she started swallowing, and letting me bust on her face and take pictures after words (that shit wasn't going down before). Plus I was fucking other chicks on the side that she knew about, I had the best of both worlds. I would have my days when I would tell her she aint shit and that she's a groupie for not sucking her ex's dick until he got back into the league!! I told her that she will never be marriage material, that she whats wrong with black women today. I would tear her down then, build her back up, then tear her down again. She went through hell for 6 months because she took a 3 day vacation to suck some dick. It got to the point where she was talking about killing herself. I'm not a lame nigga, I could have posted vids and pics of her sucking my dick, I could have hit her.... But at the end of the day she can be replaced and has been.

I took my "L" on the chin because I know I've done dirt before so it was probably karma.
 
Yea me too....anotha dude got my wife at the time pregnant and I'm paying child support, no visitation and my now grown daughter is like a stranger to me. Shit the court treated her like she was the victim.... There is a special place in hell for women like this and the members of the family court. America really doesn't have to ask itself why she is in the position she's in, just look at the family courts and that answers that question. Plus women can have orgy's on film and present it to the court and just say, "I was havin' a good time see your honor, I'm an adult my child wasn't present and it hurt no one" ....the court will say..."judgement for the wife...she did nothing wrong here...You sir better pay up and stop over-reacting, your wife was just having an orgy party with 8 dudes...I see nothing wrong with her being bukkaked and anally sodomized by 6 men if your child wasn't present and you were at work trying to pay the bills....maybe sir you should try staying home some more and making her happy"...."look what you made her do, you made her cry..that'll cost you an additional $200 a month"

Jesus christ there are some fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucked up stories in this thread. Before reading all of this shit I was kind of against marraige but this thread was the last straw and now I'm all the way against marriage.
 
Damn that's fuck up i got a friend his wife did the same thing got pregnant by some other dude and she play that victim bullshit and she won everything from my friend he lost his home and now living with his parents and he is doing bad. women win in courts.

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Arrrrrrggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh....*head explodes"
 
I'm glad I have 2 countries I can escape to if I get married here and shit gets bad.I'm not parting with my paper if i'm in tha right and tha woman is in tha wrong. :smh:
 
Please make no judgment until you have finished reading, but I hope she wasn't serious about this abuse thing, because if she were than I see this as a bold face lie. Not only was she the love of my life but she was also my best friend. When I met her she was a sexually repressed tomboy, who at 15 (going on 16) parents blocked any content they thought unsuitable for her (she never saw players club, boyz n the hood, menace 2 society, soul food, and any other movie with mature content) and still haven't gave her the talk. So she would date questionable guys and act out sexually (I know from fact that she was a virgin but what else she may have done I have no idea), she would go around the school asking to see other guy's junk.
I left for a year to go to school in my home town and when I returned in the 12th grade resumed our relationship. During this time we took it to a sexual nature. Like she said before we have been together going on eight years, and during this time we have had our fair share of arguments. We would argue and curse at each other but never tried to harm each other, you can ask anyone who knows us. If we ever hit each other it was normally trading licks and usually in fun or 4play (people can vouch for that too) and if anyone else has ever traded licks before (which I’m sure a lot of you remember doing in school with friends) one of us could some time take it too far, never with any intent to hurt the other but still end up causing the other to get frustrated. Want examples? One time she was aiming to play slap me and caught me in the eye. This smarted so bad that I told her to leave me alone till I calmed down. Another time I pulled she shirt over her head hockey style and held her there while she took blind swings at me, this pissed her off so much that she refused to talk to me for the remainder of the day. I think one thing I that was truly an error on my part was teasing her, which I haven't done now unless provoked in about a year and a half to two years.
As I said I thought of her as one of my best friends. I'm an artist and a pc, she is a writer. Both of us like the same shows (even if I tell her I don't like them *cough* project runway *cough), we both like anime and manga, comic books, art, and going out to eat to try new foods. So as I stated before because of an error on my part I treated her like my friend who normally consist of a few pals from high school, my older brother, little sister, and cousins. We normally trade insults and banter to see who could top each other. She came into this willingly after I warned her that they and I meant no real harm just trying to one up her. But she secretly couldn't take it because she had never done it before, not having any close relatives near her age, and not a lot of friends because of school life stigmata (she was called nerd and white girl and other names because she was smart, I likewise was call some names before I joined the wrestling team and beefed up like nerd and white boy because I was smart and like rock), but she never told anyone and started to bottle up. So at home we would trade insults which was proficiently lacking in, so close to a year to two years (after our daughter was conceived but not yet born) ago she told me that I hurt her feelings which I took to heart and told her I would desist and have tried my best ever since.

But here is where she said the ball dropped. Both of were recently unemployed, her because she had just graduated from college and had only student work, I because of an error on my part which I admit was proportionally stupid but will not get in to. So both of us were stressed trying to find jobs and finding out that our degrees did jack shit for us. It got to the point where we would argue over stupid shit, and then she would just stop talking a bottle up shit and not tell me what’s wrong. This only added to the frustration and after one moronic spat between us she pissed me off and I refused to say anything to her (another error on my part). This is where she told me she snapped (at our 1st confrontation which I will get into later). It felt like we were in a cauldron waiting to boil over and there was no way to fix it because it seemed our problems originate from our stress.
But then I had a break and was able to land a job with my secondary profession as a pc tech and it appeared that I would be able to take care of my fiancé and my unborn daughter. I tried to do everything I could do for my fiancé, make her happy, and show her that I loved her (another error, see I have always been shy and bashful so I have a hard time admitting my feelings which she seemed to take as a slight against her even though she knew my nature). Things slowly seemed to be going back to how it was before and she seemed to be perking up. Then all too soon our daughter was born that both of us were so overjoyed that everything seemed to be right with the world. We couldn't conduct her baby shower till after her birth for certain reasons (grandma's preference). Then our lease was coming to an end (after baby shower) and my fiancé was hell bent on moving back to her home town (ATL), and wanted me to leave my job though she knew I didn't want. But I would do anything for her which she could never understand, so we moved and all too soon found ourselves in dire straits again. Neither one of us was in employed and was living off my last remaining checks. But as soon as we hit the ATL she started hanging out till morning with her cousin (who’s not the brightest person and is a slut). She would leave me with my daughter and not call.
I knew something was wrong but as naive as it may seemed I trusted her when she said that she did nothing wrong. She forgot how pc savvy I was and believed that she could hide things for me. I found nude pics and videos of her that she was sending any dick on craigslist and one asshole she dated before we met. Then I found text messages to the asshole telling how they were going to meet up latter as long as she could "leave the baby with that nigga"(me). This all took me two days to gain surmountable evidence, and in mid December I finally confronted her. I told her I was leaving. And she told me all they did was kiss *smh* I know. But it wasn't her that I tried to believe for but my daughter, because at the time it would be difficult to see her. So I agreed, never truly trusting her because I knew she wasn't telling the whole truth. Whenever I would ask her if she did anything more she would look me in the eye and say "No". But she just didn't seem right. So I hacked her PC, I will not say how because she's still being sly. So a few days ago, low and behold she receives a message from the asshole she said she had no further contact in which alluded to sex and oral. I was appalled so one again I confronted her and finally uncovered her lies. 1st she told me that they only had sex one time and that it was one of the nights she didn't come home with her cousin (between Nov and mid Dec). But she wasn't sure if I had got the info from her ex and new that he would tell me with no qualms if I had really talked to him). She told me that the 1st time was the day after our daughters baby shower (around the end of Aug early Sept) right after we had sex and a left to go back to the town we were staying in to go back to work. Then I had her tell me in horrible detail about the other encounter because I knew that with more detail it would be harder for her to lie and she would make more mistakes.
She told about when, where, and how they had sex, that she sucked dude off, and I forced her to admit that they were going bareback, knowing dude was scruple less and slept around, in essence putting my heath in danger because the broad would still come home and want to fuck. Once again her reason was because she snapped, she didn't like it and don't know why she did it, it wasn't to hurt or get back at me for something, and such and such. I ask if it you didn't like it so much and knew it was wrong and that you were hurting me and your family why continue doing it after the first so called mistake. She answers that she doesn't know and was confused. She then says that after our daughter was born no one seemed to care about her and more that it was the baby everyone cared about. She said that when she looked at the baby she loved her but wanted her to go back inside her so everyone would pay attention to her. She said this caused her to want to run away from us.

Do I believe this?
You may think me stupid but honestly I don't know.

Do I love her?
Yes.

Do I not hate her?
Yes. I hate her and with a passion.

I told her it was over, but we still reside at the same residence so I have to still see her and want to throttle her and cry at the same time.

Why haven't I left?
Is that so hard to guess? My daughter.

It's difficult for me to just leave for many reasons. One being that this impromptu move back to ATL has been kinder her job wise than it has to me, and that's not saying much. We've applied to hundreds of jobs; fast-food, retail, office, warehouse, shipping and receiving, technical, artistic. I've also applied to be an art teacher because I have the qualifications and passed all the required tests. But in order to teach here you have to have certification, and in order for me to obtain it I had to be with a school, but the only way to do that is to be certified. I received a job offer to teach in my home town but was forced to turn it down because she did not want me to go and did not want to go with me, and her parents would not let me take my daughter because they were too attached. So my fiancé took up temp jobs till one of us could catch a break (me having been declined for a lot of temp, and permanent jobs for being over qualified or not enough experience). So here I am in utter agony not being able to leave because if I leave it would almost impossible to see my daughter and no one will let me take her, also I could not stand to be away from her because I love her so much and she is the greatest thing to happen to me. So I told my ex I will reside at this residence to care for our daughter because no one else can, until one of us find s a steady gig and is able to put her in daycare. I have told her that it is over and not sure if it will ever be right between us, because right now I am utterly confused.

Do I want to be with her?
Don't think ill of me please, but I hate her and want to be away from her but also still am confused about wanting to be with her.

Will I stay?
Once again don't think ill of me but honestly I don't know.

I've been trying to gain insight on what should I do from members of my family and hers, and all have been mixed. The only thing that’s confusing me is my daughter (maybe a few feelings for my ex too), I don't want to destroy my daughters possibility for a family though it may be too late. I'm just too confused at the moment to make a conscious decision. So here I am an open book for you all to prod and criticize, but I'll take it because there is never anything wrong with objective criticism (being an art major I would know). I know I'm not the most angelic person, but I have never once put my family in jeopardy.

I apologize if I have wasted any of your time, and would not take any offense in being Colin Powelled.

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