Yo fellas...we really need to talk about this new M1 MacBook Air Laptop...This shit is a game changer, BeastMode status!

[jack walsh13]

Bruh.....I started this thread yesterday at 2:00pm eastern
And I'm still running on the same charge, LOL
Haven't plugged it up yet, to charge up the battery
Been looking at YouTube vids & BGOL shit, etc, etc all day long

Yeah I'm thinking about a new laptop. Had my MacBook pro for 7 years now. Want an upgrade but I don't use a lot of the bells and whistles that come with the pro. An air may suit me just fine for downloading music and getting on the internet

 

[jasonblacc]

There are people in my house who want this.

We have no musicians, no film-makers, no artists in this house.

your kids?

 

[Spectrum]

The M1 MBP killed the 16" Intel version in everything except screen size and speaker quality.

Just watched it... wow

 

[Duece]

your kids?

Them and my mom.

 

[sammyjax]

Them and my mom.

For the price, you'd be future proofing against one of them developing interest in any of those things.

And you may just be facilitating it.

Having a computer that can handle that kind of thing well makes niggas try shit. Creating on a shit computer is frustrating enough to make you be like fuck it and just stay on Bgol all day lol

 

[sammyjax]

And anyone that has paid any attention to my stance on macs over the years is that they have never been worth the money spec for spec, and that they are a prestige purchase akin to Jordans

But I'm a pragmatist. They finally seem to have captured enough market cap to offer some value in their product lines, so that kind of erases the basis of my longest standing beef w apple.

 

[jasonblacc]

Them and my mom.

your moms a G for wanting a Mac. My mom has trouble handling her Samsung Tv.

 

[sammyjax]

your moms a G for wanting a Mac. My mom has trouble handling her Samsung Tv.

It's too much for most mamas lol this nigga moms a fucking hacker

 

[^SpiderMan^]

This thread is right on time. I’m looking to buy a Mac now. I was thinking to get an older model though. I’ve always got a Pro and need at least 500GB but will continue reading.

 

[sammyjax]

Now all I got left is I prefer windows lol but that's a personal thing. I prefer ios to Android though.

 

[LordSinister]

My only concern is all of that shit is soldered on the board. I don't even think you can expand the storage. Add this to the "security" chip and you will have to throw away the whole motherboard if you have bad ram, or the drive shits the bed.

No more independent repairs cause the parts will be locked to the board. So when this 1st gen takes a dump 1 month out of warranty the "genius" guys will tell you to buy another computer.

 

[mailboxpimp]

Need to replace my 2015 Macbook Pro and was looking at the Air but the new Pro is nice too.

I got the new 13in mbp. If you got the cash get the top of the line version. I have the i5 quad core processor w 8 gigs of ram & a 256mb hard drive.

I got a 1tb external for it...
You gonna need dongles...

I miss the ports but my 15in mbp was a paper weight for 4 years... the graphics chip went out. Verizon home care insurance covered the cost of a new one after I paid the insurance for 2 months.

They sent me the top teir of the lower end modle. 2 ports on the left side instead of 4.

I actually like the 13inch more than the 15 because its easier to carry in my backpack... very light.

I have ALL the programs on it that I had on my 15inch.

 

[Ryokurin]

That's gaming performance
Its better than the integrated Intel Iris graphics though, especially considering the games are running through an emulator
But yeah, a dedicated video card can beat out the Mac's GPU

But the CPU performance is what everyone is talking about, because its better than an i7 Intel chip
Plus it does not heat up like a i7
Plus the battery is like twice as long as a laptop running with an i7 chip
All at a pretty reasonable price
Plus this is only the first year (M1), so software ain't even optimized yet
Intel has no plan on how to beat AMD and Apple, except to just keep increasing the clock speed

There's different tiers of Iris Graphics. Xe is arguably the best integrated available at the moment. That would be about Geforce MX350 quality. and again Geekbench is not a good benchmark to compare different architectures. I'm not saying M1 is a bad chip, it's pretty respectable, but no it's not better than a i7 or a Ryzen mobile system. Again it's a great start but it doesn't need the extras some people are putting on it.

 

[Tha Baldavenger]

not a mac person...but that mac put everyone on notice. Intel has been on a decline for years, with the Ryzen chipset eating away sales. Now Apple switching to ARM architecture, and not using Intel.....man not looking good for Intel. I am sure other manufacturers are looking at Snapdragon and Samsung for their chips for their mobile platforms.

 

[sammyjax]

My only concern is all of that shit is soldered on the board. I don't even think you can expand the storage. Add this to the "security" chip and you will have to throw away the whole motherboard if you have bad ram, or the drive shits the bed.

No more independent repairs cause the parts will be locked to the board. So when this 1st gen takes a dump 1 month out of warranty the "genius" guys will tell you to buy another computer.

Yeah that's apple's whole deal, central to their business model. You can't fuck w nobody but us.

 

[CurtDawg]

There's different tiers of Iris Graphics. Xe is arguably the best integrated available at the moment. That would be about Geforce MX350 quality. and again Geekbench is not a good benchmark to compare different architectures. I'm not saying M1 is a bad chip, it's pretty respectable, but no it's not better than a i7 or a Ryzen mobile system. Again it's a great start but it doesn't need the extras some people are putting on it.

 

[Ryokurin]

Hands-on with the Apple M1—a seriously fast x86 competitor [Updated] | Ars Technica

I meant to add that to the original post. It's a quadcore processor. That's half the core compared to an i7 from the jump. There's somethings it's better at and others the competitors are better at. Again it isn't a bad design but no it's not a i7 killer. it's respectable for it's powerdraw and overall performance.

 

[LordSinister]

Yeah that's apple's whole deal, central to their business model. You can't fuck w nobody but us.

Then you never truly own the product. Imagine buying a car that was built so that to change a flat tire you needed to swap out the entire frame, engine, powertrain, everything?

This, plus the fact that all the part will be locked to the board, only Apple can make repairs. It's already hard to get parts for these shits.

Reminds me of the fucked up GPU's on the 2010-2011 MBP's. You kept replacing them shits, but the whole chip was shit. Mine never went out until it was out of warranty and the replacement period.

The DOS Dude made a custom flash for system bios that disabled the faulty chip and booted straight into the onboard graphics so those worthless laptops could still be useful. These days are ending and it's sad bro.

 

[godmc]

Hands-on with the Apple M1—a seriously fast x86 competitor [Updated] | Ars Technica

I meant to add that to the original post. It's a quadcore processor. That's half the core compared to an i7 from the jump. There's somethings it's better at and others the competitors are better at. Again it isn't a bad design but no it's not a i7 killer. it's respectable for it's powerdraw and overall performance.

Yeah keep thinking about this the old way. Looking at core count.

M1 kills core i7 and it is entry level. Benchmarks and real world performance show this. Don’t bury your head in the sand.

 

[CurtDawg]

Hands-on with the Apple M1—a seriously fast x86 competitor [Updated] | Ars Technica

I meant to add that to the original post. It's a quadcore processor. That's half the core compared to an i7 from the jump. There's somethings it's better at and others the competitors are better at. Again it isn't a bad design but no it's not a i7 killer. it's respectable for it's powerdraw and overall performance.

Fam, I'm confused here
Earlier you were trying to make the point that the M1 chip is not better than an i7, or Iris graphics XE
But you just posted an article which shows that the M1 chip is better

In the article they are comparing the M1 chip to various i7 mobile CPU's, and a Ryzen mobile CPU, and a Ryzen desktop CPU
Fam the M1 beat the i7 mobile CPU & Ryzen 4700u mobile CPU in everything but 1 benchmark test
The cinebench single threaded cpu test, where the M1 loses 1520 -- to -- 1538

Only the Ryzen 9 5950X is beating out the M1 chip
But that's a desktop CPU, where the CPU alone costs over $800 !!!

 

[CurtDawg]

Hands-on with the Apple M1—a seriously fast x86 competitor [Updated] | Ars Technica

I meant to add that to the original post. It's a quadcore processor. That's half the core compared to an i7 from the jump. There's somethings it's better at and others the competitors are better at. Again it isn't a bad design but no it's not a i7 killer. it's respectable for it's powerdraw and overall performance.

And also in that same article you posted
There's a chart showing the M1 handily outperforming the i7 in the Geekbench GPU test
There's even a caption underneath the article that says
"Geekbench's OpenCL GPU test isn't something that we normally lean on. But it seems pretty clear that the M1's GPU is more than a match for Intel's Iris Xe—let alone the aging Vega 8 in the Ryzen 7 4700U."

Fam, doesn't that contradict exactly what you were saying earlier?
And I know you're going to repeat "Geekbench is not a good benchmark to compare different architectures, etc, etc"
But.....look at the gap/difference! The M1 didn't just barely edge it out on the benchmark test, it handily beat it
Even if someone doesn't "totally believe" in Geekbench's results all of the time, that's a pretty substantial margin of victory
The shit is like Trump saying Geekbench is fake results.....Nah fam you got gapped by a lot, & it wasn't even close

 

[Ryokurin]

You both ignored the last half of the article.

Despite the inherent limitations of trying to benchmark a brand-new architecture on a minority-share platform, it's obvious that the M1 SoC is exactly what Apple told us it would be—a world-leading design that marries high performance to high efficiency. When its power consumption and thermal profiles are effectively unlimited as in the Mac mini tested here—or, presumably, the actively cooled 13-inch MacBook Pro—the M1 puts the smack down on very high-performance mobile CPUs, and in many workloads, even very high-performance desktop CPUs.
With that said, the M1 isn't magic—if a competitor can bring more cores and threads to a massively parallel fight, it can beat the M1 by large margins. But that competitor can only do so at serious power and thermal discrepancies—and probably at a high manufacturing cost discrepancy as well.
Quibbling about massively parallel workloads—which the M1 wasn't designed for—aside, Apple has clearly broken the ice on high-performance ARM desktop and laptop designs. Yes, you can build an ARM system that competes strongly with x86, even at very high performance levels.

What I said still stands it's competitive for mobile performance machines and can hang with high-performance machines, but it lags on highly parallel material. Mobile processors aren't the same core wise as desktop processors. For example, traditionally most i7 mobile processors were just faster-clocked versions of their i5 processors for instance. It still is 2 to 4 threads. in processes that fit within 4 threads yes the M1 can hang, but once you start adding more threads to the mix as the benchmarks show it starts to show it's limitations.

 

[godmc]

You both ignored the last half of the article.



What I said still stands it's competitive for mobile performance machines and can hang with high-performance machines, but it lags on highly parallel material. Mobile processors aren't the same core wise as desktop processors. For example, traditionally most i7 mobile processors were just faster-clocked versions of their i5 processors for instance. It still is 2 to 4 threads. in processes that fit within 4 threads yes the M1 can hang, but once you start adding more threads to the mix as the benchmarks show it starts to show it's limitations.

we are not ignoring anything. None of us is saying it’s the best cpu ever. Why is a mobile cpu even being compared/competing with a desktop cpu should be where the spotlight is on. That should set you thinking differently versus trying to ignore or downplay.

 

[sammyjax]

Are they not testing it like they test everything else? If you gotta change the test to say ok well now look, not that great huh?

That's kinda saying something.

If it's good it's just good. And I used to HATE them muhfuckas. I still don't really like them lol

 

[^SpiderMan^]

Thanks @CurtDawg. I was going to buy an older model but after this thread i'm going with the MBP 8GB 512GB from Costco.

 

[Mrfreddygoodbud]

your moms a G for wanting a Mac. My mom has trouble handling her Samsung Tv.

Yea I just got off the phone with your mom's..

She said shut the fuck up and you a pastry ass knigga.

For implying she a dumb bitch..

Ol snitchin on yo moms cupcake ass

 

[CurtDawg]

Thanks @CurtDawg. I was going to buy an older model but after this thread i'm going with the MBP 8GB 512GB from Costco.

Hope you like it fam,
Let us know what you think

 

[CurtDawg]

Alleged Apple M1X SoC in upcoming MacBook Pro 16 ready to outcore and outscore its M1 ARM-based relative

Alleged Apple M1X SoC in upcoming MacBook Pro 16 ready to outcore and outscore its M1 ARM-based relative

The Apple M1 SoC has just been launched and there are already rumors about another ARM-based chip coming out of the Cupertino company soon. The part has been tentatively called the M1X although the name is yet to be confirmed. The Apple M1X will apparently bring more CPU cores to the 2021...

www.notebookcheck.net

 

[CurtDawg]

The AMD Radeon RX 6700 series may debut in Apple's next 16-inch MacBook Pro

The AMD Radeon RX 6700 series may debut in Apple's next 16-inch MacBook Pro

Apple is rumoured to be gearing to release a new 16-inch MacBook Pro 16, and the machine may have some special AMD hardware up its sleeve. Supposedly, the laptop will be the first to feature the Radeon RX 6700 and RX 6700 XT, albeit mobile versions of the rumoured desktop GPUs.

www.notebookcheck.net

 

[John Million]

thanks for the heads up
didn't know they dropped new laptops

 

[^SpiderMan^]

Fuck.... I ended up buying a MBP thru Apple with the edu discount. I’m considering cancelling until this latest comes out.
Will Apple drop prices when it does?

 

[CurtDawg]

Fuck.... I ended up buying a MBP thru Apple with the edu discount. I’m considering cancelling until this latest comes out.
Will Apple drop prices when it does?

The 13 inch M1 MacBook pro, is probably powerful enough for most people
I don't know if Apple will drop the prices of any of them

But yeah, Apple already stated that this is a 2 year transition
So next year its going to be the desktops with the M1 chip, or even the rumored M1X chip
And also the 16 inch MacBook Pro, with the M1 or M1X chip
That shit is going to be a fuckin beast !!!
But rumors are that it probably won't drop until the 2nd half of next year though

I assume the 16 inch MacPro will have 4 thunderbolt ports
You'll be able to run 2 external monitors from it
(unlike the 13 inch MacPro which only supports 1 external monitor)
And it should have more memory options

 

[praetor]

Impressive performance in Xcode and 4k video vs a mac pro.

 

[LordSinister]

The new OS is pure shit and reports everything you do. About 20% of the time I start over it fails to recognize my after market ssd in my 15" 2015 MBP. Fuck Apple



He speaks the fucking truth. Apple will give you the future in exchange for all of your data, information and soul.

 

[totto]

i actually was debating buying a M2 at BB but I have a old P14 Gen 2 Intel i5, not the fastest machine but no issues in 5 years.

Runs cool, debating just upgrading the ssd or buying a mac, never had a macbook and no idea how to use it, don't even know the purpose of buying it except it syncs with my apple stuff much better.