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Yo fellas...we really need to talk about this new M1 MacBook Air Laptop...This shit is a game changer, BeastMode status!

MistaPhantastic said:
It happens often. Go to ANY AV company and ask them how many computers they rent out last minute because the client fucked up. I don't have to guess; I KNOW.
But nah..."its impossible". :rolleyes:
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Yes, we should all take tech advice from the person who thought that one of the most popular laptops of the last decade + didn't have a hard drive. I guess that is how AV companies make money though; They venture into IT and rent laptops with hard drives directly to people doing presentations :smh: :smh: :lol:Let me guess, you have a laptop with no ram that outperforms the m1?

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zod16 said:
Yes, we should all take tech advice from the person who thought that one of the most popular laptops of the last decade + didn't have a hard drive. I guess that is how AV companies make money though. They rent laptops with hard drives to people doing presentations :smh: :smh: :lol:

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No, I don't know the specs of the macbook air by memory like you do. I do, however know how many clients bring in Macbook Airs and their shit doesn't work the way they expected it to or they don't have enough ports or they bought something new only to find out other incompatibilities right before their presentations.
Your logic is flawed as fuck. I never argued benchmark performances. That was never my point.
You really have Apple's dick deep down your throat. What are you? An Apple Air rep?
Okay, Mr. Air - why don't they discontinue the macbook pro altogether if its the exact same device as the Air?
You don't have answers, Sway.

This is the same company, by the way, that thought removing headphone jacks was a good idea at one point, so YES, there is an argument to be made in terms of connectivity.
I see the headphone jacks are back on their devices. :rolleyes:
 
MistaPhantastic said:
No, I don't know the specs of the macbook air by memory like you do. I do, however know how many clients bring in Macbook Airs and their shit doesn't work the way they expected it to or they don't have enough ports or they bought something new only to find out other incompatibilities right before their presentations.
Your logic is flawed as fuck. I never argued benchmark performances. That was never my point.
You really have Apple's dick deep down your throat. What are you? An Apple Air rep?
Okay, Mr. Air - why don't they discontinue the macbook pro altogether if its the exact same device as the Air?
You don't have answers, Sway.
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Just to recap, knowing that laptops do in fact have internal hard drives is outside of your knowledge base but you routinely repair laptops?

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You don't repair no damn computers man let alone MacBooks :smh: You trying to imply that you do is like a car mechanic who believes cars don't need wheels. Stop lying and just move on...
 
zod16 said:
Just to recap, knowing that laptops do in fact have internal hard drives is outside of your knowledge base but you routinely repair laptops?

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You don't repair no damn computers man let alone MacBooks :smh: You trying to imply that you do is like a car mechanic who believes cars don't need wheels. Stop lying and just move on...
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You are trying to strawman argue. I never said I was a repairman. I said that the Air does not replace the pro in certain circumstances. It doesn't. Facts. If Apple agreed with you, they would discontinue the pro.
You then take a hugely common problem in AV events and lie and say it doesn't exist. Anybody can call any pro AV company that does live events and confirm this; ANY OF THEM. Nobody behind the curtains is using an Air on a multi-million dollar show and hoping everything goes smoothly.
I see you dodged answering my question. I'll save you the embarrassment and answer it for you:
Macbook PRO has dedicated GPUs rather than integrated like the Airs do. They brag about that battery life on the Air. Well, you get that by using integrated graphics rather than dedicated graphics. If you put a GPU next to a CPU, you will shorten the life of the CPU. GPUs have large amounts of heat dispersion. Pros have fans. Airs don't, which is why they are light. In AV, dedicated GPUs are almost mandatory. Again, its not what the Air can do internally - its what happens when you try to take it out. It STILL only has two ports.
I'm not shitting on the Air's performance benchmarks but it doesn't replace the pro and none of you have shown otherwise.
I'm done.
 
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Apple is the Third Rail on BGOL. Shit, I get it, you can do more with Android, Windows. However, this chip and its optimization is next level. Battery life, general, recognized testing metrics, etc... The entry level MacBook Air, the one that everyone shitted on, is a 1080p webcam from being a number one Best Buy. Sheeet, the numbers are extremely impressive.

Now if you need some hardcore shit, this first iteration doesn’t appear to be for power/pro users. However, I will be curious to see what happens when Apple comes out with those models,


Regardless, this shit has caused a much needed leap in the PC world. Hopefully, Intel steps up. It’s good to be skeptical, but let’s not ignore innovation (especially if it benefits everyone).
 
MistaPhantastic said:
You are trying to strawman argue. I never said I was a repairman. I said that the Air does not replace the pro in certain circumstances. It doesn't. Facts. If Apple agreed with you, they would discontinue the pro.
You then take a hugely common problem in AV events and lie and say it doesn't exist. Anybody can call any pro AV company that does live events and confirm this; ANY OF THEM. Nobody behind the curtains is using an Air on a multi-million dollar show and hoping everything goes smoothly.
I see you dodged answering my question. I'll save you the embarrassment and answer it for you:
Macbook PRO has dedicated GPUs rather than integrated like the Airs do. They brag about that battery life on the Air. Well, you get that by using integrated graphics rather than dedicated graphics. If you put a GPU next to a CPU, you will shorten the life of the CPU. GPUs have large amounts of heat dispersion. Pros have fans. Airs don't, which is why they are light. In AV, dedicated GPUs are almost mandatory. Again, its not what the Air can do internally - its what happens when you try to take it out. It STILL only has two ports.
I'm not shitting on the Air's performance benchmarks but it doesn't replace the pro and none of you have shown otherwise.
I'm done.
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I’m with you. I think that’s why Apple started with the Airs and entry level Pro (maxing out at 16gb ram). No real power user is going to get an Air. That was never the purpose of that model.
To your point, the lack of a GPU or more than 16 gb ram. What’s exciting is that this entry level MacBook Air is probably the biggest bang for your buck when it comes to performance and battery life. Previously, the Air had too many compromises. Now it appears to be extremely minimal. I think it bodes well for the higher end MacBook Pros (with GPUs) that are forthcoming.
 
MistaPhantastic said:
You are trying to strawman argue. I never said I was a repairman. I said that the Air does not replace the pro in certain circumstances. It doesn't. Facts. If Apple agreed with you, they would discontinue the pro.
You then take a hugely common problem in AV events and lie and say it doesn't exist. Anybody can call any pro AV company that does live events and confirm this; ANY OF THEM. Nobody behind the curtains is using an Air on a multi-million dollar show and hoping everything goes smoothly.
I see you dodged answering my question. I'll save you the embarrassment and answer it for you:
Macbook PRO has dedicated GPUs rather than integrated like the Airs do. They brag about that battery life on the Air. Well, you get that by using integrated graphics rather than dedicated graphics. If you put a GPU next to a CPU, you will shorten the life of the CPU. GPUs have large amounts of heat dispersion. Pros have fans. Airs don't, which is why they are light. In AV, dedicated GPUs are almost mandatory. Again, its not what the Air can do internally - its what happens when you try to take it out. It STILL only has two ports.
I'm not shitting on the Air's performance benchmarks but it doesn't replace the pro and none of you have shown otherwise.
I'm done.
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You are a fucking idiot. I have owned pretty much every Pro going back to when the "Pro" was the powerbook. You posited, inexplicably, that the air doesn't have a hard drive and then ranted about a lack of "ports" as if any of that made sense/had relevance to this thread or even made a bit of fucking sense. Like I said before, stay in your lane and let people who actually know about this shit discuss it. :smh:
 
MistaPhantastic said:
You are trying to strawman argue. I never said I was a repairman. I said that the Air does not replace the pro in certain circumstances. It doesn't. Facts. If Apple agreed with you, they would discontinue the pro.
You then take a hugely common problem in AV events and lie and say it doesn't exist. Anybody can call any pro AV company that does live events and confirm this; ANY OF THEM. Nobody behind the curtains is using an Air on a multi-million dollar show and hoping everything goes smoothly.
I see you dodged answering my question. I'll save you the embarrassment and answer it for you:
Macbook PRO has dedicated GPUs rather than integrated like the Airs do. They brag about that battery life on the Air. Well, you get that by using integrated graphics rather than dedicated graphics. If you put a GPU next to a CPU, you will shorten the life of the CPU. GPUs have large amounts of heat dispersion. Pros have fans. Airs don't, which is why they are light. In AV, dedicated GPUs are almost mandatory. Again, its not what the Air can do internally - its what happens when you try to take it out. It STILL only has two ports.
I'm not shitting on the Air's performance benchmarks but it doesn't replace the pro and none of you have shown otherwise.
I'm done.
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Was someone arguing that the m1 air and M1 pro performed the same? Is that what this is about?

And again I say that forgetting or not having the right shit for a presentation isn't the kind of thing one repeats very many times before one learns to get what one needs or check the setup ahead of time. Also if these are such pro a/v people I would definitely expect that not to be a common issue. How pro can a nigga be that ain't ready to give a presentation?
 
zod16 said:
You are a fucking idiot. I have owned pretty much every Pro going back to when the "Pro" was the powerbook. You posited, inexplicably, that the air doesn't have a hard drive and then ranted about a lack of "ports" as if any of that made sense/had relevance to this thread or even made a bit of fucking sense. Like I said before, stay in your lane and let people who actually know about this shit discuss it. :smh:
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Enjoy your Macbook Air, sir.
 
sammyjax said:
Was someone arguing that the m1 air and M1 pro performed the same? Is that what this is about?

And again I say that forgetting or not having the right shit for a presentation isn't the kind of thing one repeats very many times before one learns to get what one needs or check the setup ahead of time. Also if these are such pro a/v people I would definitely expect that not to be a common issue. How pro can a nigga be that ain't ready to give a presentation?
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He is just posting shit to be posting at this point. None of it makes any sense.
 
:angry: I knew these chips were coming, but damn that was fast. Just dropped 1700 end of July. Yeah, it's been a while, but the way apple likes to pull pants down buying from them, this shit stings. Got me looking at my 'new' macbook pro like it stole something from me.
 
I just ordered one.

I can't wait to see if this thing outperforms my hackintosh.

One youtuber said that for certain tasks, the M1 mac mini outperformed his $6000+ 2019 Mac Pro. :eek2:

I might sell this once they drop the 16" with the M1X.
 
THREAD_CRITIC said:
Yeah trying to look for a gaming computer for my son got a dope led desk and gaming chair now I need a good system
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Even though I don't recomend the MacAir to game hardcore, because most games are not optimized yet
But.....its crazy to see what this little thing can do
"Base model MacBook Air as a gaming rig, playing Fortnite & Tomb Raider through a 1440p monitor"

 
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praetor said:
I just ordered one.

I can't wait to see if this thing outperforms my hackintosh.

One youtuber said that for certain tasks, the M1 mac mini outperformed his $6000+ 2019 Mac Pro. :eek2:

I might sell this once they drop the 16" with the M1X.
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Major props fam :cool:
I upgraded the hard drive on mine when I bought it
I have the MacBook Air, with 8CPU cores, 8GPU cores, 8GB memory, 512GB hard drive, which costs about $1,250
Got mine from BestBuy, paid online, then express pickup at the store
Worse case scenario, since its the holiday time, most stores are extending their full refund return policy
But hope you like it :cool:
 
CurtDawg said:
Major props fam :cool:
I upgraded the hard drive on mine when I bought it
I have the MacBook Air, with 8CPU cores, 8GPU cores, 8GB memory, 512GB hard drive, which costs about $1,250
Got mine from BestBuy, paid online, then express pickup at the store
Worse case scenario, since its the holiday time, most stores are extending their full refund return policy
But hope you like it :cool:
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Thanks.

I got the pro with 16gb of ram and 1TB of storage. Apple estimates it'll take 2-3 weeks to ship but hopefully it ships sooner. I didn't check any stores since I'm trying to avoid humans until the pandemic is over.

The education discount worked but I can't double dip with the $50 gift card they were offering.

I just wish they had put one thunderbolt port on each side rather than two on the same side.
 
CurtDawg said:
Major props fam :cool:
I upgraded the hard drive on mine when I bought it
I have the MacBook Air, with 8CPU cores, 8GPU cores, 8GB memory, 512GB hard drive, which costs about $1,250
Got mine from BestBuy, paid online, then express pickup at the store
Worse case scenario, since its the holiday time, most stores are extending their full refund return policy
But hope you like it :cool:
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I would've opted for the 16GB of RAM. Even though MacBooks handle memory much better than windows, I always like to have more & not need it than to fall short especially when you can't upgrade the RAM since it's soldered on to the board. I'm good with my 2015 MacBook Pro for now but eventually will need to upgrade & these M1 models are starting to peak my interest.
 
CurtDawg said:
New MacBook Air, playing Call Of Duty, Fortnite, And other games
All while running through the Rosetta emulator, not even optimized yet
So some games do crash.....right now




:grin::grin::grin::grin::grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
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It's ok, but no it's not competing with a gaming laptop despite what you think. FPS isn't the only factor to worry about, frame pacing is important as well and it's clearly is bad in some of the games. At least looking at those games (which the newest is from 2018) it's about on par with Iris Xe graphics. Promising but not revolutionary like it's being pushed as.
 
Ryokurin said:
It's ok, but no it's not competing with a gaming laptop despite what you think. FPS isn't the only factor to worry about, frame pacing is important as well and it's clearly is bad in some of the games. At least looking at those games (which the newest is from 2018) it's about on par with Iris Xe graphics. Promising but not revolutionary like it's being pushed as.
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I think those are on emulators. The real test and that will be in the next year when those games are formatted for the chip. I'm leaning towards waiting a little longer and seeing what will happen when apps and software are updated
 
Ryokurin said:
It's ok, but no it's not competing with a gaming laptop despite what you think. FPS isn't the only factor to worry about, frame pacing is important as well and it's clearly is bad in some of the games. At least looking at those games (which the newest is from 2018) it's about on par with Iris Xe graphics. Promising but not revolutionary like it's being pushed as.
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That's gaming performance
Its better than the integrated Intel Iris graphics though, especially considering the games are running through an emulator
But yeah, a dedicated video card can beat out the Mac's GPU

But the CPU performance is what everyone is talking about, because its better than an i7 Intel chip
Plus it does not heat up like a i7
Plus the battery is like twice as long as a laptop running with an i7 chip
All at a pretty reasonable price
Plus this is only the first year (M1), so software ain't even optimized yet
Intel has no plan on how to beat AMD and Apple, except to just keep increasing the clock speed

:cool: :cool: :cool:
 
cli-terminator said:
I would've opted for the 16GB of RAM. Even though MacBooks handle memory much better than windows, I always like to have more & not need it than to fall short especially when you can't upgrade the RAM since it's soldered on to the board. I'm good with my 2015 MacBook Pro for now but eventually will need to upgrade & these M1 models are starting to peak my interest.
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Even though I agree since I got the 16gig version, the youtube videos I've seen show that the 8gigs performs almost the same unless you're doing something crazy like editing 8k Red raw footage or have 50 tabs of chrome open while also running a program that hammers the cpu.

It'll be interesting to see how the different ram options factor into running Windows once Parallels starts supporting it on the M1s.
 
cli-terminator said:
I would've opted for the 16GB of RAM. Even though MacBooks handle memory much better than windows, I always like to have more & not need it than to fall short especially when you can't upgrade the RAM since it's soldered on to the board. I'm good with my 2015 MacBook Pro for now but eventually will need to upgrade & these M1 models are starting to peak my interest.
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Yeah man you're 100% correct
I was thinking hard about that too
But with the holidays, I can easily return it back to Bestbuy & get the model with the upgraded memory, if needed
The models with 16GB of memory are actually not available at all right now
They don't even ship until like another 3 more weeks

:(:(:(
 
praetor said:
Even though I agree since I got the 16gig version, the youtube videos I've seen show that the 8gigs performs almost the same unless you're doing something crazy like editing 8k Red raw footage or have 50 tabs of chrome open while also running a program that hammers the cpu.

It'll be interesting to see how the different ram options factor into running Windows once Parallels starts supporting it on the M1s.
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Exactly fam
The CPU/GPU/Memory is tightly integrated
So this 8GB model is like having a windows laptop with 16GB of memory

And also, from the youtube videos I've watched
Even with it using swap file memory space on the hard drive, the SSD is so fast that there is no performance hit

The only question mark is longevity
If someone has the 8GB memory base laptop & is hammering it extremely hard all day long, using swap space heavily to over compensate...how long will that hard drive hold up? :dunno:
 
CurtDawg said:
Major props fam :cool:
I upgraded the hard drive on mine when I bought it
I have the MacBook Air, with 8CPU cores, 8GPU cores, 8GB memory, 512GB hard drive, which costs about $1,250
Got mine from BestBuy, paid online, then express pickup at the store
Worse case scenario, since its the holiday time, most stores are extending their full refund return policy
But hope you like it :cool:
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Bro you doing a helluva job selling this dam thing. I buying two for my daughter and wife but now you got me wanting one.
 
CurtDawg said:
Exactly fam
The CPU/GPU/Memory is tightly integrated
So this 8GB model is like having a windows laptop with 16GB of memory

And also, from the youtube videos I've watched
Even with it using swap file memory space on the hard drive, the SSD is so fast that there is no performance hit

The only question mark is longevity
If someone has the 8GB memory base laptop & is hammering it extremely hard all day long, using swap space heavily to over compensate...how long will that hard drive hold up? :dunno:
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They might be using SLC NAND for swap since the write endurance is very high. But yeah it'll take years before we find out if it really has a negative impact.
 

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