XBox Live - What exactly are you paying for?

Jagi

True Fist of the North Star
OG Investor
There seem to me a lot of misconceptions about what XBox Live really is, especially in comparison to the free PSN, so as a software engineer, so for the 7 of you who will probably read this, I thought I'd go into some detail about where exactly your $50 is going towards.

Let's discuss, for a minute, the free-on-release XBox Live Arcade game "Aegis Wing". You may or may not know that this game was written in 3 months by 3 Microsoft interns. What's interesting about this?

This free, intern-created game includes a 4 player co-op mode with an entire matchmaking and leaderboard system.

Why do you think this is possible? The answer to that question is the same as the answer to "Where does my $50 a year go?"

When you pay for XBox Live, you are essentially funding the development of future multiplayer games for the 360. You aren't just paying to play online. You're paying to support the entire online framework that developers can take into when they make games for the 360.

That's why nearly every game for the 360 - from intern-written XBLA games to huge multi-million dollar blockbusters - have some sort of online component, be it full multiplayer functionality or some sort of online leaderboard. Microsoft has made it incredibly easy for developers to tap into this system, because Live handles all of the things like matchmaking, skill ranking, etc. Developers no longer have to implement that system themselves, which saves them both time and money.

This will become even more apparent when the XBox Live Community Games platform rolls out later this year. Many of these amateur games built using the XNA development kit will likely have multiplayer support - something I doubt we'd see without the $50 a month paid by the Gold subscribers.

Just take a look at this list of XBLA arcade games and note how many have multiplayer. ALL of them have some sort of online leader board - but also, note the number that have multiplayer as well:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Xbox_Live_Arcade_games

In a day and age where people are willing to pay $15 a month to play ONE game online, $50 a year doesn't seem too hard to swallow in order to ensure nearly every game I play on my 360, be it in DVD form or as downloaded content, has a multiplayer element. But I've been gaming long enough to remember dozens of games I played thinking "This is awesome - but why can't I play with friends?" Hopefully, this is becoming a thing of the past. Who wouldn't want a multiplayer X-Com game?

Now, many of you may not care, which is fine. If you just want to play a few - or no - games online, then the free PSN probably has everything you probably want.

I didn't mention things like in-game invites and messaging, a unified friends list, etc. Because, while these are all great features, the PSN will likely soon have all of these for free. But even so, Sony lacks Microsoft's experience in software engineering - just as Microsoft clearly lacks Sony's experience in creating hardware. This is why XBox Live has been created from the ground-up as not just a multiplayer system but an entire online gaming infrastructure and community.

I love feeling like almost every 360 game I play is, in some way, shape, or form, a community experience - and it's that way because it's so easy to add online functionality to a 360 game. As a programmer myself, I see the power behind that and am more than willing to pay $50 a year to support that sort of system.

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I don't care about the details I just like hearing the people say DAMNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN after I bust they ass.
 
The main games I play are Madden, NCAA, Uno, & COD4 (gonna cop next week), so having the best online experience for only $4 a month is cool.
 
The main games I play are Madden, NCAA, Uno, & COD4 (gonna cop next week), so having the best online experience for only $4 a month is cool.

well bruh.....you slipped on cod4.....all the best players will be back on rainbow 6 vegas 2 next week. maybe a couple months later we'll be back. but most people are copping rainbow 6 2.
 
well bruh.....you slipped on cod4.....all the best players will be back on rainbow 6 vegas 2 next week. maybe a couple months later we'll be back. but most people are copping rainbow 6 2.

i never got a chance to get into vegas 1 so i'm just going to use that opportunity to get my exp up in cod4 while the more hard core players are on r6v2
 
well bruh.....you slipped on cod4.....all the best players will be back on rainbow 6 vegas 2 next week. maybe a couple months later we'll be back. but most people are copping rainbow 6 2.

Not if their online rank-up system doesn't get a major re-working (125k XP to get to, like, master sergeant wtf!?!????). I got a trailer for Vegas 2 from XBL a few weeks back and it looks exactly like Vegas 1.

Call of duty spoiled me, the only thing I miss from Vegas is the ability to put a scope and silencer on the same gun.

The single player campaign definitely has more meat to it than COD, but IMO, the multiplayer is dramatically inferior.
 
have faith, only time will tell for Vegas 2
Not if their online rank-up system doesn't get a major re-working (125k XP to get to, like, master sergeant wtf!?!????). I got a trailer for Vegas 2 from XBL a few weeks back and it looks exactly like Vegas 1.

Call of duty spoiled me, the only thing I miss from Vegas is the ability to put a scope and silencer on the same gun.

The single player campaign definitely has more meat to it than COD, but IMO, the multiplayer is dramatically inferior.
 
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50 bucks a year for access to a network thats managed by MS is very cheap.

Plus what they said about all games having online capabilities.
 
and whats your gamertag?

Jagi, i think this is the first pro-Xbox thread ive read from you. i came in here expecting something else.

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i'm going to have to edit my post and fix that by altering the article :lol::lol:


but seriously my original posts were "which system to buy?"

"i'm buying a 360"

"360 is dope"

"lets start the halo matches"

"lets start the cod4 matches"

"lets revisit the gamertags"

"why yall hate sony so much i'm getting both"

"my 360 just started scratching my discs"

"my 360 scratched my discs again"

etc etc etc...

if you look up my earlier posts i had plans to get both systems and enjoy them equally.. a lot of the "if you aint with ms 100% and dont hate sony then you against us and must be a 360 hater"

came from freaky1 and a few others... look my my earlier posts and my 360 thread, plenty of good 360 news... but for a while it mainly had bad news, good sales but bad news.. now i leave the majority of the good news to gemini, he's on top of the 360 as much as i'm on top of my ps3.....

my 360 is sitting there lonely unfortunately.. i dont know what to do with it. its too loud and the new games play just a well on the ps3 without hardware issues. the main reason i bought the 360 (huxley) was pushed back.. again.. into 2009.. :(

http://www.bgol.us/board/showthread.php?t=158388&highlight=huxley

http://www.bgol.us/board/showthread.php?t=234432&highlight=huxley

http://www.bgol.us/board/showthread.php?t=196403&highlight=xbox+360

http://www.bgol.us/board/showthread.php?t=160266&highlight=xbox+360
 
i never got a chance to get into vegas 1 so i'm just going to use that opportunity to get my exp up in cod4 while the more hard core players are on r6v2
i was never into r6 vegas multi player but im all about the four player co-op, being tatical, costumizing my character, and having a cover system (i think all shooters should have it in some form)
 
I knew all of this, but simps go all "Colin Powell" on you when you try to tell them shit. Mofos will pay $15 per month to play World of Warcraft...one fucking game...when $50 per year gives you access to hundreds of games on XBOX LIVE. And yeah, those XNA games on Live Arcade are really starting to get good. Undertow uses the Unreal Engine... :eek:
 
i got xbox live and i like it. wha i dont like about it is that u still have to buy microsoft points to buy arcade games,movies,themes,etc. i could understand buying the movies and tv shows they have but some of the arcade game aint worth buying like the old school games they good but damn they aint worth going out and buy points to get them. i knew the memebership money was to fund the service but u really not getting a big bang for your bucks.
 
i never play xbox live, but when i was on the ps2, i used to fuck with socom something heavy, but i'll start getting on, when rainbow six vegas 2 drops, cause part one was the shit, and i can imagine how thoro it would be online
 
oh dont get me wrong Jagi, I'm not saying "you're a sony fanboy" or anything like that. But its just that most threads you have are something positive about blu-ray or PS3, or something negative about hd-dvd and/or the 360. I was just shocked, is all :lol:
 
oh dont get me wrong Jagi, I'm not saying "you're a sony fanboy" or anything like that. But its just that most threads you have are something positive about blu-ray or PS3, or something negative about hd-dvd and/or the 360. I was just shocked, is all :lol:

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after i posted this informative somewhat positive thread about xbox live


i havent stopped scratching since..... i try to scrub... but damn it ... they just dont make water hot enough.....
 
Why yall hatin on my achievements? Lol i bust azz in guitar hero, rock band, and bomberman if you check my gamertag "moustacy" yall can check out all the games ive played or hit me up whatever. Ay nappy let me catch you playin one of my games and its a wrap.

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your going to get an email from microsoft asking you to clean up your mailbox cause your clogging up xbox live with the chat, friend invite, audio and video messages your about to get


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first off rainbow six was hot.....until cod4 came out..... i dont think i can go back.... only thing it has is the hide and shoot feature, plus my auto shotty.... but there was a lot less niggadry on rainbow than there is on cod4....... something about call of duty that brings out all the red necks....
 
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