would you rather make 250k working for someone or 49k for yourself

[#blacklivesmatter]

If it was easy, everyone would have their own. If it was easy, everyone would be making 250k working for someone. I know everybody here working for themselves makes 750k at least. But for the rest of the US, the average is 70 to 80k. Personally i would take the 250k. I'm not from Harlem

that is part of the self defeating attitude "if it was that easy everyone would do it". no you are over estimating humans. playing football is easy and being a good solid back up ai t that hard for a heisman scrambling quarter back but vince young aint in the league. he could easily be in the league but he lacks discilpline. there are tons of peoe that could easily have their own business but they lack discipline. they rather watch live and hip hop than watch a seminar on youtube about goverment grants for start ups or whatever. most people lack discipline. it isnt allways the level of difficulty that prevents people but their discpline and determination. if you had it you would understand why business men have a certain attitude toward lazy people on welfare

 

[tallblacknyc]

If it was easy, everyone would have their own. If it was easy, everyone would be making 250k working for someone. I know everybody here working for themselves makes 750k at least. But for the rest of the US, the average is 70 to 80k. Personally i would take the 250k. I'm not from Harlem

so if u did a standup and hbo paid u 250,000 for it and they went and sold 1 million dvds of it...on ur next time of doin a second standup if u had a choice of making another 250,000 with hbo selling a million dvds again or would u go solo and do a standup and put it on itunes and possibly selling a million copies at $20 a pop and recieving 79 percent of that total profit... what would u do??

 

[#blacklivesmatter]

All that baid... AGI
IN!!! What's your point

if i felt you had half the intellectual capacity of a ostrich i would tell you

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

that is part of the self defeating attitude "if it was that easy everyone would do it". no you are over estimating humans. playing football is easy and being a good solid back up ai t that hard for a heisman scrambling quarter back but vince young aint in the league. he could easily be in the league but he lacks discilpline. there are tons of peoe that could easily have their own business but they lack discipline. they rather watch live and hip hop than watch a seminar on youtube about goverment grants for start ups or whatever. most people lack discipline. it isnt allways the level of difficulty that prevents people but their discpline and determination. if you had it you would understand why business men have a certain attitude toward lazy people on welfare

...and how successful is that business when it's only generating 49K a year?!?! ...also, how is a person who has educated themselves, and work their way to a quarter of a million dollar a year salary a person who lacks discipline again? No determination? 250K a year/ Lazy on welfare? You are ALL OVER THE PLACE AND NOT MAKING A DAMN BIT OF SENSE, in accordance with your original post! So, with all you typed to try and validate you non point, where in the equations you spoke of is any person in the dynamic in your post making a choice between 250K salary and 49K own business?

You are trying real hard and making less and less sense with ever post... Gather your thoughts and try again. You are making NO FUCKING SENSE!!!

 

[#blacklivesmatter]

so if u did a standup and hbo paid u 250,000 for it and they went and sold 1 million dvds of it...on ur next time of doin a second standup if u had a choice of making another 250,000 with hbo selling a million dvds again or would u go solo and do a standup and put it on itunes and possibly selling a million copies at $20 a pop and recieving 79 percent of that total profit... what would u do??

"naw b you gotta understand def jam has a better marketing strategy and exposes me to diverse fan base where as only loyal fans would follow me and I dont know how strong my fan base is, maybe they came to see other comedians and I might fail and there is global warming and I got bit by a african bee and my nose runn too much"

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

if i felt you had half the intellectual capacity of a ostrich i would tell you

I see you are desperately trying to deflect with really pitiful and embarrassingly unfunny insults, from ANOTHER direct question you inspired, but Nah Bruh, not that easy.... so, Since you are obviously super intelligent, use me as you case study.

WHAT IS YOUR POINT?

 

[#blacklivesmatter]

[QUOTE="IT IS WHAT IT IS, post: 15993981, member: 1017nd how successful is that business when it's only generating 49K a year?!?! ...also, how is a person whs educated themselves, and work their way to a quarter of a million dollar a year salary a person who lacks discipline again? No determination? 250K a year/ Lazy on welfare? You are ALL OVER THE PLACE AND NOT MAKING A DAMN BIT OF SENSE, in accordance with your original post! So, with all you typed to try and validate you non point, where in the equations you spoke of is any person in the dynamic in your post making a choice between 250K salary and 49K own business?

You are trying real hard and making less and less sense with ever post... Gather your thoughts and try again. You are making NO FUCKING SENSE!!![/QUOTE]
you obviously dont get it. it is more to a business than how much money you generate. you may have
generated 49k but put in over 200k


worth of labor. put it like this



say you making a compyter

 

[Amajorfucup]

Thread started off stupidly, and has trended south from there.

 

[tallblacknyc]

"naw b you gotta understand def jam has a better marketing strategy and exposes me to diverse fan base where as only loyal fans would follow me and I dont know how strong my fan base is, maybe they came to see other comedians and I might fail and there is global warming and I got bit by a african bee and my nose runn too much"

ok i actually laughed at that..but even though u were joking thats truly how some people respond when they have a proven product that sells/sold but when u ask them to do it themselves to make way more bread they come up with a 1000 excuses not to do so..like i said i kno a lot of people who basically fit that description..it's sad but nobody ever said life was nothing but fairytale endings

 

[silverhawk]

I have a doctorate and make several times 49k. I tried to make it playing football but it didnt work out. Nothing about me is self defeating. What i do now is my back up plan. Making 50k working for myself is for the birds. That's all in my opinion.

 

[#blacklivesmatter]

you dont get it. lets say I buy all the accessories to make a engine for a lawn mower or insert whatever. I got my own busiss. day one I make 0 profit. but I built this engine day one. the labor I did is worth more than 0 dollars. tha labor is worth 265 dollars. now I dont mind making 0 dollars monday if I know ima make $250 tuesday. you may make 49k but your labor you are putting into it. you know if you are getting paid 250k you are probably worth 750k. so you are putti g 750k+ worth of labor into a business that generates only 49k. what do you think will happen? and I say 750k+ because laws say you can only work 16 hours. if you work for yourself you can work as much as often as you want. so you might work more than 750k

I see you are desperately trying to deflect with really pitiful and embarrassingly unfunny insults, from ANOTHER direct question you inspired, but Nah Bruh, not that easy.... so, Since you are obviously super intelligent, use me as you case study.

WHAT IS YOUR POINT?

 

[BrownTurd]

Bill Gates didn't walk away from a quarter of a million dollar salary to start his own shit though. If you are going to make a point at least make it relevant to the discussion, especially when trying to be irreverent. This post is a fail....

Find someone who walked away from that type of bread for their own shit and then we can use whatever point you are trying to make as a talking point...

Maybe he asked the question wrong because having the choice to work for myself 49K or 250k for someone else is a no brainer. I would take the 250K

 

[#blacklivesmatter]

why not start your own practice

I have a doctorate and make several times 49k. I tried to make it playing football but it didnt work out. Nothing about me is self defeating. What i do now is my back up plan. Making 50k working for myself is for the birds. That's all in my opinion.

 

[silverhawk]

Once i have enough experience and my loans are paid off, it's on the to do list.

 

[#blacklivesmatter]

Maybe he asked the question wrong because having the choice to work for myself 49K or 250k for someone else is a no brainer. I would take the 250K

i wonder how many business men and self made millionaires would do that. that is a dumb decision in the ling run

 

[tallblacknyc]

I have a doctorate and make several times 49k. I tried to make it playing football but it didnt work out. Nothing about me is self defeating. What i do now is my back up plan. Making 50k working for myself is for the birds. That's all in my opinion.

question still stands u sold a million dvds for $20 a piece doin a standup comedy for hbo and got paid 250,000 for it..u got a lot of buzz and people thirsty for another standup from u...u have a choice to take another 250,000 from hbo or risk putting ur standup on itunes and make 79 percent off of all the dvd sales what do u do???

 

[#blacklivesmatter]

this why we will never have a nba owned by blacks. look at the logic in this thread. now kobe makes millions of dollars with nike and other endorsements and nba. now how much is kobe worth? times that by about 4 :-0

what if kobe started his own basketball league and other nba players followed suit? will they make that Nike money and nba money immediately? no. they will make way less....tbc....

 

[peterlongshort]

I choose the 50k. Why bust your ass at a 9 to 5 everyday when you can be like HNIC and do absolutely nuthing for 20 years except hang out with your kids and play on the Internet?

Shit, he can probably hand this shit off to his kids. While cats dead and gone this nigga kids will be making money. That's ownership.

 

[silverhawk]

I would first start off with youtube videos to see what kind of buzz a few 5 minute vids creates. Wouldn't jump out there with only one show. If i started on my own, then it's a no brainer. If i didn't start on my own, i would need a bigger sample to work from.

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

Maybe he asked the question wrong because having the choice to work for myself 49K or 250k for someone else is a no brainer. I would take the 250K

Nah... he trolling. All good though, I actually enjoy watching wanna be trolls threads blow up in their faces with it's obvious they are trolling and start scrambling...

Whole concept of the thread was stupid as fuck actually...

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

you dont get it. lets say I buy all the accessories to make a engine for a lawn mower or insert whatever. I got my own busiss. day one I make 0 profit. but I built this engine day one. the labor I did is worth more than 0 dollars. tha labor is worth 265 dollars. now I dont mind making 0 dollars monday if I know ima make $250 tuesday. you may make 49k but your labor you are putting into it. you know if you are getting paid 250k you are probably worth 750k. so you are putti g 750k+ worth of labor into a business that generates only 49k. what do you think will happen? and I say 750k+ because laws say you can only work 16 hours. if you work for yourself you can work as much as often as you want. so you might work more than 750k

Ok... I'll talk real with you. All that you typed is cool, but the concept of the thread isn't. Your question was basically a choice between 250k a year working for someone else or 49K in your own business is not really that intelligent. Then you proceeded to make an attempt to disrespect those who would not accept 200K a year less under the concept you presented, which was even sillier. All I'm saying Bruh...

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

question still stands u sold a million dvds for $20 a piece doin a standup comedy for hbo and got paid 250,000 for it..u got a lot of buzz and people thirsty for another standup from u...u have a choice to take another 250,000 from hbo or risk putting ur standup on itunes and make 79 percent off of all the dvd sales what do u do???

Why can't you do both?

Or Why can't you do the standup and then do your DVD and put it on iTunes?

That's what a true business mind would do, create ways to maximize both options. The standup is a one time deal, so you can do both and not lesson the effectiveness of the other.

 

[#blacklivesmatter]

kobe is probably generating the nba and nike and all 2 or three billion. so you think "if im worth 2-3 billion how can I generate even half of that? how can I make my own league I need a stadium to fill people with etc...

if yall have this attitude yall cant be mad when the clippers protest by turning their jerseys I side out to protest donald sterling. I mean after all they would rather make money working in the nba than starting their own league.

what if kobe contacted a chinses gook sweat shop and made some shoes and design and made a youtube video advertising a limited time only kobes for $40.00 and held a charity game somewhere in a out door basketball court he made and made his own bleachers out of scrap metal and sold beverages and drinks...

 

[tallblacknyc]

I would first start off with youtube videos to see what kind of buzz a few 5 minute vids creates. Wouldn't jump out there with only one show. If i started on my own, then it's a no brainer. If i didn't start on my own, i would need a bigger sample to work from.

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I would first start off with youtube videos to see what kind of buzz a few 5 minute vids creates. Wouldn't jump out there with only one show. If i started on my own, then it's a no brainer. If i didn't start on my own, i would need a bigger sample to work from.

a trailer is a given when releasing a movie/standup...i already said the buzz is out there the people want more they juss waiting for u to come out with a second standup and they will support it..now with that info would u take the 250,000 or take the 79 percent off dvd sales?? ur original standup was created by u but hbo paid u to bring it to the masses..now the masses kno u will u recieve a check or do it by urself the 2nd time??? ...pretty much what i'm asking u is what some people i kno have done on a smaller scale but they chose the check or waiting for the check opportunity even though they have the capability of making a shitload of bread by their lonesome..as i said i kno people who have wasted their talent not pushing a proven marketable product

 

[tallblacknyc]

Why can't you do both?

Or Why can't you do the standup and then do your DVD and put it on iTunes?

That's what a true business mind would do, create ways to maximize both options. The standup is a one time deal, so you can do both and not lesson the effectiveness of the other.

huh... this is the option u sell ur goldmine for 250,000 or u push ur goldmine urself and make more..it's not a hard question..let me do another example..so u made paranormal activity..u got paid 30,000 for it and the studio made 150 million off it...the buzz is out there that the people want a part 2..it cost u 10,000 to make the first 1 and it will cost u 10,000 to make the 2nd...now u could make part 2 and the studio pay u another 30,000 for ur efforts and they make another 150 mill off it or u take ur sequel and put it on itunes and make a shitload of bread..what do u do??

 

[godofwine]

i'm a jew by nature... so i'll take the full control over my life and less bread any day of the week..plus i'm not dumb so i'll easily flip the 49,000 into more... by the way if ur getting paid 250,000 by a company u best to believe ur generating millions or more for them, so if u go solo there's no way ur money will decrease that low in fact ur bread will more likely increase..so ur logic of ur bread dropping 80 percent goin solo dosen't make sense

Same here. Shit, I'm so Jewish that when I start going with this business you can call me Godofweinberg. I'll take the $250k, but best believe I'm minimizing all of my personal shit, paying as much off as I can because I am looking for my exit strategy IMMEJETLY (players club). I know what I can make solo, and starting my solo business is the goal. a year or two at $250k will set up my business lovely - hell, I may even do it concurrently.

 

[#blacklivesmatter]

you telling me investors wouldn't approach kobe to do joint ventures if he made a out door league and put bleachers around them? they would with the quickness. so fast. but the thing is nba players dont own their own likeness just like in college they dont own their own likeness. look at what smack urltv did. rap battles started off in nike shoe shops with 40 people in the cypher. now he doing shows on bet. ciroc want to put they brand on it...oppurtunities would come. but the money that is fast.....they rather play in nba

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

huh... this is the option u sell ur goldmine for 250,000 or u push ur goldmine urself and make more..it's not a hard question..let me do another example..so u made paranormal activity..u got paid 30,000 for it and the studio made 150 million off it...the buzz is out there that the people want a part 2..it cost u 10,000 to make the first 1 and it will cost u 10,000 to make the 2nd...now u could make part 2 and the studio pay u another 30,000 for ur efforts and they make another 150 mill off it or u take ur sequel and put it on itunes and make a shitload of bread..what do u do??

Holla at another studio!

 

[phanatic]

i'm a jew by nature... so i'll take the full control over my life and less bread any day of the week..plus i'm not dumb so i'll easily flip the 49,000 into more... by the way if ur getting paid 250,000 by a company u best to believe ur generating millions or more for them, so if u go solo there's no way ur money will decrease that low in fact ur bread will more likely increase..so ur logic of ur bread dropping 80 percent goin solo dosen't make sense

I tried telling my little cousin this when he was talking about money and goals. Would you rather be a superstar athlete or that athlete's boss? Lebron, Jordan, and some athletes are the exceptions, but I told him "If I'm willing to pay you a million, what do you think I make from your talents? I'm not going to get paid less than you."

 

[King Natty]

not everyone is meant to run their own business. doesn't make them lazy or defeatist

 

[shaddyvillethug]

Lotta yes sir ass niggas in here

 

[trstar]

If you would have said 175k vs 250k then yea, working for yourself is a preferential option. But 50k vs 250k? Dont teach that to your children.

cosign.

 

[incogneg]

If someone is paying you 250k, you can make money consulting after several years whenever you want to quit.

250K/yr (w2)
(35% Tax)
(24K Rent)
(12K Car)
(6k food)
(12K Entertainment)
(6k Other)
Total: $102.5K

200K (self employed)
(12K Entertainment)
(6K Health Insurance)
(10K Car)
(6k Other)
(12K Rent)
(3k food)
(30% Tax)
(3k food)
(12k rent)
(2k Car)
Total: $89K

50K pretax difference, ~13K post tax difference.

 

[incogneg]

Pros
Own boss / pride / prestige
Depending on business exponential income possibilities
More money you make, more you can hide / avoid taxes... W2 Tax bill just gets higher and higher
No corporate games
No racist coworkers
Can manipulate how much you make to avoid taxes
Can make purchases under company name to protect private assets
Can leave a business to your kids

Cons
Racist business partners / vendors
Eat what you kill--not everyone is built that way
Great potential, but can also post losses
Have to worry about insurance, etc
Can be sued directly
Work harder for yourself than for a corporation sometimes

 

[BronxBomber]

I left my career and doing my own thing. Pros and Cons. Some people are not built to be their own boss. Plan and simple. Some people can't work for others. I have now fell into the later, I can not imagine going back to beating the clock.

That is a big difference in pay but in due time if you are working your business and its working you will get to 250k and not have to go into your own business.....

Edit (Depending on how old you are and circumstances) If I had to start over I could do it with what I know but I have my finger on a couple of other business that I can make more money less time and effort