Will Smith shows up David Latterman's show but the Fresh Prince makes an appearance

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silly rabbit, if ghost writers got credit... they wouldn't be ghost writers

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Funny response, even though the R said he didn't.
 
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G0nBad Real [email said:
B@d;13005708]Amen...but[/email] you know BGOL has to discredit a brother some kinda way. Even thou there's no proof.

I love the song. It's no discredit to Will even if he had it written for him.

I had always heard Ra wrote it, and it made sense cuz it's totally his flow.

Even still I always liked it and I don't think anyone is saying Will is a sucka for having something written for him.

I also heard Jay wrote for him on a few things. It was never a big deal, get your panties out the bunch:lol::lol:
 
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Are you fuckin kidding? NOBODY gives the ghostwriter a royalty credit unless the ghost really wrote it.



/END OF DISCUSSION

Never checked the publishing but i thought everybody knew Rakim wrote "summertime"!!

I know for a fact that Nas wrote damn near the whole Big Willie Style album.

He got his credits for Gettin' Jiggy Wit It and Miami and Men in Black and few others off the album.
 
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Never checked the publishing but i thought everybody knew Rakim wrote "summertime"!!

I know for a fact that Nas wrote damn near the whole Big Willie Style album.

He got his credits for Gettin' Jiggy Wit It and Miami and Men in Black and few others off the album.

me too. I'll accept it if we're wrong, makes no difference to me.

No one was mad at the time when the word was out, no ones mad now, except people who are such Will Smith fans, they can't accept anyone even noticing the flow:lol::lol:
 
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I love the song. It's no discredit to Will even if he had it written for him.

I had always heard Ra wrote it, and it made sense cuz it's totally his flow.

Even still I always liked it and I don't think anyone is saying Will is a sucka for having something written for him.

I also heard Jay wrote for him on a few things. It was never a big deal, get your panties out the bunch:lol::lol:

This one is so crazy though because when someone ghostwrites it always comes out. ALWAYS. The Ghostwriter always tells it because he wants to get his clientele up. I know all the shit Jay has ghostwrote for people. I know the shit TI has ghostwrote for people. Skillz, Smitty, etc. You know who the ghostwriters are its no secret. But for whatever reason niggas think Rakim ghostwrote this shit. :lol: Rakim would've been admitted to it. :lol:

Ya'll just gotta sit back and ask ya'll self a few questions in regards to this shit.

1)Why would Will lie about writing it?
2) Why would Rakim not take credit for writing it?
3) Why does the shit sound like Will wrote it? :lol:


This. Lyrically, I wasn't blown away. Honestly it is one of those corny song that you end up liking.

:lol: True shit. Its one of my favorite songs of all time. But man Rakim don't even write like that. :lol:
 
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Funny response, even though the R said he didn't.
no comment on Rakim writing for Will...

But y'all are crazy if you think ghost writers get ASCAP credit... if the writer is given credit it isn't ghost writing. Its just writing.

The industry is full of ghost writers and ghost producers that get NO credit... never mind the many established artists that give away credit on the hookup or use aliases (ala Biggie, Prince, MJ, Lionel Ritchie, etc... )
 
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Skip to 2:11 and check Flava Flav's reaction when Rakim says he didn't write Summertime.



well, there we have it out of his mouth.

I didn't know that til tonight.
 
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Skip to 2:11 and check Flava Flav's reaction when Rakim says he didn't write Summertime.



I never heard about this rumor until it was started on BGOL a while ago. This should end the whole discussion on that bit of speculation now.​
 
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Skip to 2:11 and check Flava Flav's reaction when Rakim says he didn't write Summertime.



Flava is always so damn sincere... real dude.

Ah well - the R said he didn't write it
 
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Flava is always so damn sincere... real dude.

Ah well - the R said he didn't write it

gotta love the internet. Shut down a 20 somethin year old urban legend
 
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I dont understand why people think rhakim ghostwrote this song when will smith album Big Willie Style gives a more high profile rapper nas credits throughout the album
 
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I dont understand why people think rhakim ghostwrote this song when will smith album Big Willie Style gives a more high profile rapper nas credits throughout the album

Just as you're saying that Will gave Nas credit- without posting a lick of evidence...

THATS how the rumor got spread about Rakim writing the verse. THATS how.

Except at least the Summertime song clearly sounded like Rakim. Even Rakim said it.

So maybe Will copped the style for the record. ALso makes sense. Maybe he had someone else write him a Rakim style flow.

All we know now is Rakim said it wasn't him.

As far as the Nas story- your word is just as good as whoever said Ra wrote Summertime when it came out. We all just believed it cuz it made sense.
 
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that was one of my favorite tracks when it came out.
 
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will always comes off as a cool guy
 
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so were gonna forget the diss song he put out on Eminem and wendy williams huh????? People forgot will could flow
 
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Always used to tell cats EST from 3x Dope wrote it or King Sun wrote it and let that simmer. Cats would start second guessing whether they thought Rakim wrote Summertime or not. Then I would ask them "who wrote Brand New Funk"? or better yet "how many tracks did you like from 'Let the Rythm hit em'?" (which came out around the same time). Wasn't hating I just remember Rakim and Eric B trying to slip a little Kane and Gangstarr into the mix and feeling the heat from cats that came out of nowhere like Ed OG and Special Ed.

I honestly think Will put that pen to work after he got that lifeline boost in his career and the money problem looked like it was going to be resolved. After Young MC and Kid & Play rolled through to grab a little money from nice guy rap I think Fresh dialed one in before becoming Will Smith.
 
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Yeah explain that

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Aint nobody ghost writing when it comes to ASCAP credit, and publishing.

Co sign

Exiled queen back to making up stories again
 
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:confused: This is a weird ass interview

well its two multimillionaires trying to have a convo that regular people would relate to.

most of these interviews are awkward and contrived.
 
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well its two multimillionaires trying to have a convo that regular people would relate to.

most of these interviews are awkward and contrived.

that wasnt it. this felt as if will felt some type of way about dave.
 
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Skip to 2:11 and check Flava Flav's reaction when Rakim says he didn't write Summertime.



:lol: this clip doesnt end the discussion.

on 1 hand u have Rakim saying he didn't do it.

on the other hand u have flav... a certified vet looking at R like "what are u talking about fam.... EVERYBODY knows u wrote Summertime."
 
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Co sign

Exiled queen back to making up stories again

sometimes cats get upfront cash for writing and keeping quiet.
my cuz has penned joints for artists where he got paid in cash..literally... bands straight from the bank.

i dont know how often it happens but u gotta think when an artist truly doesnt want anybody to know he didnt write some shit, he is not gonna have nobody getting writing credits on the song. plus back in the 90's u had so much drug money floating around in the hiphop and r&b game it prolly wasnt shit to break a ninja off $10k to stfu and write for a hot artist.
 
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Skip to 2:11 and check Flava Flav's reaction when Rakim says he didn't write Summertime.



Flav lookin at Rakim like " Word Ra, you lying Playboy"! :lol:
 
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Just as you're saying that Will gave Nas credit- without posting a lick of evidence...

THATS how the rumor got spread about Rakim writing the verse. THATS how.

Except at least the Summertime song clearly sounded like Rakim. Even Rakim said it.

So maybe Will copped the style for the record. ALso makes sense. Maybe he had someone else write him a Rakim style flow.

All we know now is Rakim said it wasn't him.

As far as the Nas story- your word is just as good as whoever said Ra wrote Summertime when it came out. We all just believed it cuz it made sense.

ha her you go hostile negro http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Willie_Style
 
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sometimes cats get upfront cash for writing and keeping quiet.
my cuz has penned joints for artists where he got paid in cash..literally... bands straight from the bank.

i dont know how often it happens but u gotta think when an artist truly doesnt want anybody to know he didnt write some shit, he is not gonna have nobody getting writing credits on the song. plus back in the 90's u had so much drug money floating around in the hiphop and r&b game it prolly wasnt shit to break a ninja off $10k to stfu and write for a hot artist.

True but Ra would admitted to writing summer time already

That was a huge hit
 
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