Why wouldnt this diet work?

[LEs Stroud]

Fam my weight is stagnant and I dont cheat and I exercise 6 days a week.. I cant get out the 250's.

I'm experimenting with this shake off and on diet I made up.

Instead of 2000 cals a day, 1400 a week it gives you 8500 a week with a cal deficit of 5500= 1.5 loss of weight a week with diet alone. Factor in the 3 days of exercise minimum and 500 cal burned you can add on another 1500 for a total of 7000 cal= 2 pounds a week.

This incorporates working out, "look forward approach to eating", healthy eating and cleansing but not starvin yourself

I'd do it in cycles for 6 weeks then eat 5 small meals every day for one week then back on the program. I'll let yall know.

Would love to hear feedback

M 4 Shakes 250 calories

Tu 6 meals 1500- 2000 cals

Wed 4 shakes 250 cals

Th 6 meals 1500- 2000 cals

FR 4 shakes 250 cals

Sat 6 meals 1500- 2000 cals

SU 4 shakes 250 cals

 

[Jumbodicc]

No carbs for 2-4 wks.


None at all

 

[LEs Stroud]

No carbs for 2-4 wks.


None at all

are you asking or stating? Not sure playa

 

[kdogg3270]

what's your cardio game lookin' like?

 

[SamSneed]

i ate this for a whole year with 1.5mil bikeride and run,100 situps,good set of pullups

get some organic coconut oil and organic apple cider vinigar

take a tblspn of each before each meal,cider first then oil.

breakfast

1egg
1small hashbrown
2 slices of turkeybacon
1 slice of cheese
wheat bread

lunch

wheatbread
1 slice of turkey(sandwich meat)
1 slice of cheese
1 granysmith apple
1 red apple
1 pear
1 bannana
1 granola bar

dinner (after work out never eat after 7pm)

eat a nice dinner not too big


drink mad water it helps if you get hungry threw the day

you will lose mad lbs,shit felt damn good to wear clothes that didn't fit before,don't get on a scale it will only down you mentaly

 

[Jumbodicc]

are you asking or stating? Not sure playa

stating

 

[METHODIST]

Rules

No white bread, no white rice, no sugar cereal. Only wheat products (complex carbs.) No red meat, only lean meats (Chicken, turkey and fish only). If you can, stay away from rice and pasta completely! they packed with carbs. No more sodas! No more alcohol, one drink every two weeks if necessary. Only drink water and tea. I suggest natural juice once a week. Eat lots of fruits and veggies. Try to only eat natural foods if you can.

Meals

1. 2 egg whites, toast and fruit or oatmeal + tea 7:00am
2. Chicken salad with crutons or soup and slice of wheat or tuna slaad on wheat(10 am) and water
------NO carbs from this point on-------
3. Meat and veggies or salad with meat + water
4. Meat and veggies or salad with meat + water
5. Meat and veggies or salad with meat + water


If you get hungy at night? Then drink some Oolong tea or black tea (induces fat burn*)

Cheating: You must cheat! If ye eat strict all the time your body will continue to store the fat and not burn it because it (body) kinda uses subcutaneous fat to protect organs. So you need to confuse your body. Therefore one cheat meal a week. Have your favorite food providing you have been eating strict. Maybe some cake and icecream for deseart with a healthy meal.

Working out

You must work out your entire body. Do core last and do core every day. One day upper body and core, next day lower body and core and so on. Do cardio and inteval training also. you will see results.

Peace

 

[LEs Stroud]

what's your cardio game lookin' like?

Cardio is what I focus on with interval training a main stay. My metabolism hit the skids after 20. I been working out and eating strictly since April 3. 09. I'm not seeing the weight loss I hear about on here

Last time I know I dropped weight mad fast was when I was just not eating but playing ball and boxing. I use to eat a little but I was trying to be a vegetarian. Point was though I was taking in very little calories. So I think the plan would work in cycles...not for every day. Just till you drop the target weight

I made a lifestyle change to. I want to be in shape for my 40's and beyond

 

[DoingDamage]

your metabolism had adjusted. Increase your calories for 2 wks, then begin your diet again.

Same for people who want to Gain weight. Lay off the weight gainers for about 2 wks, then start again.

 

[LEs Stroud]

i ate this for a whole year with 1.5mil bikeride and run,100 situps,good set of pullups

get some organic coconut oil and organic apple cider vinigar

take a tblspn of each before each meal,cider first then oil.

breakfast

1egg
1small hashbrown
2 slices of turkeybacon
1 slice of cheese
wheat bread

lunch

wheatbread
1 slice of turkey(sandwich meat)
1 slice of cheese
1 granysmith apple
1 red apple
1 pear
1 bannana
1 granola bar

dinner (after work out never eat after 7pm)

eat a nice dinner not too big


drink mad water it helps if you get hungry threw the day

you will lose mad lbs,shit felt damn good to wear clothes that didn't fit before,don't get on a scale it will only down you mentaly

Brugh you aint lyin with the scale. I'm weighing myself daily and fuck myself mentally each time. I'm scale watching and I know its not right. I like that way of eating. How much weight did you drop?

 

[LEs Stroud]

nice feedback

 

[SamSneed]

Brugh you aint lyin with the scale. I'm weighing myself daily and fuck myself mentally each time. I'm scale watching and I know its not right. I like that way of eating. How much weight did you drop?

jan 08 245lbs i started runnin in april jan 09 190lbs never felt better it was like when i got out of bootcamp.i forgot in the breakfast to add a soy veggie pattie.

 

[Warrior 7]

the way bodybuilder cut is by slowly reducing carbs over a set period usually 12 weeks or so


It's probably not a wise move to drasitically cut out all carbs at once because of how drained you will feel. If you're drianed you won't be able to perform optimally during your workouts.


my advise, first rule of working out
gaining muscle, losing fat....whatever. Is WATER. Treat water like anabolic steroids because thats the way proper water mangement will effect your physique. If you are 200+ lbs you should be drinking at least a gallon of water a day. Spread out among 6 meals thats like 2 glasses a meal plus a little extra at night. Get a gallon sized container and carry it with you like it's gun and you a police working in the projects.


2 cardio. People over do cardio. 3 times a week on your off days from lifting 20 to 30 mins. The goal should be to work in intervals into your cardio, so if you jog for cardio in 20 mins break it down like this
first 2 mins moderate pass breathing easily

60 sec sprint going at about half your all out max

back for 2 mins of moderate running to recover

60 sec sprint at about 60% of your max

back to 2 mins of moderate running


and so on until the last sprint is 100% max sprint.



On the weights basic compound movements closer to powerlifting, squats, benches and presses.


1 gram of protein per pound of lean muscle mass desired. In your case I think that would work out to 30 of 35 grams of protein per meal at 6 meals a day.


good luck.

 

[34real]

Im no expert at this,Im a rookie who took on a challenge of my own and went from 210-163 in less than 5 months.
I did what I did just by eating no meats,no diet soda,no snacks unless its wheat bars,nuts,fruit or Peanut butter and cutting down on my portions-if it doesn't fit into a regular size bowl,its not ment to be eaten at that moment and time.


I think your plan sounds to technical and the shakes wont cut it after a week of doing things in that pattern your gonna relaspe or your going to end up not sticking to it.A 1200 cal diet is serious but 250 cal in one day every other day doesn't sound like its going to work.I maybe wrong...GOOD LUCK ANYWAYS

 

[jagu]

Im no expert at this,Im a rookie who took on a challenge of my own and went from 210-163 in less than 5 months.
I did what I did just by eating no meats,no diet soda,no snacks unless its wheat bars,nuts,fruit or Peanut butter and cutting down on my portions-if it doesn't fit into a regular size bowl,its not ment to be eaten at that moment and time.


I think your plan sounds to technical and the shakes wont cut it after a week of doing things in that pattern your gonna relaspe or your going to end up not sticking to it.A 1200 cal diet is serious but 250 cal in one day every other day doesn't sound like its going to work.I maybe wrong...GOOD LUCK ANYWAYS

Damn, did you work out? I'd like to lose 25lbs without working out too hard. Can I do it by changing my diet and fast walking for 2 miles every other day. I hate running.

 

[LEs Stroud]

jan 08 245lbs i started runnin in april jan 09 190lbs never felt better it was like when i got out of bootcamp.i forgot in the breakfast to add a soy veggie pattie.

Congrats brugh. I figure I have to give it some more time. How often did you weigh yourself? And did you plateau or stop losing for a long time?

the way bodybuilder cut is by slowly reducing carbs over a set period usually 12 weeks or so


It's probably not a wise move to drasitically cut out all carbs at once because of how drained you will feel. If you're drianed you won't be able to perform optimally during your workouts.


my advise, first rule of working out
gaining muscle, losing fat....whatever. Is WATER. Treat water like anabolic steroids because thats the way proper water mangement will effect your physique. If you are 200+ lbs you should be drinking at least a gallon of water a day. Spread out among 6 meals thats like 2 glasses a meal plus a little extra at night. Get a gallon sized container and carry it with you like it's gun and you a police working in the projects.


2 cardio. People over do cardio. 3 times a week on your off days from lifting 20 to 30 mins. The goal should be to work in intervals into your cardio, so if you jog for cardio in 20 mins break it down like this
first 2 mins moderate pass breathing easily

60 sec sprint going at about half your all out max

back for 2 mins of moderate running to recover

60 sec sprint at about 60% of your max

back to 2 mins of moderate running


and so on until the last sprint is 100% max sprint.



On the weights basic compound movements closer to powerlifting, squats, benches and presses.


1 gram of protein per pound of lean muscle mass desired. In your case I think that would work out to 30 of 35 grams of protein per meal at 6 meals a day.


good luck.

Good looking out brugh on protein and water tips

 

[LEs Stroud]

Im no expert at this,Im a rookie who took on a challenge of my own and went from 210-163 in less than 5 months.
I did what I did just by eating no meats,no diet soda,no snacks unless its wheat bars,nuts,fruit or Peanut butter and cutting down on my portions-if it doesn't fit into a regular size bowl,its not ment to be eaten at that moment and time.


I think your plan sounds to technical and the shakes wont cut it after a week of doing things in that pattern your gonna relaspe or your going to end up not sticking to it.A 1200 cal diet is serious but 250 cal in one day every other day doesn't sound like its going to work.I maybe wrong...GOOD LUCK ANYWAYS

thanks fam and congrats. I meant 250 each shake for a total of 1000 cals for the day.

4 shakes x 250 cal each

 

[LEs Stroud]

Damn, did you work out? I'd like to lose 25lbs without working out too hard. Can I do it by changing my diet and fast walking for 2 miles every other day. I hate running.

sup jag. from what I read fast walking is low intensity. Might not give you the results as quickly. I'd try interval training
You can do any exercise of your choice, just vary the intensity

Along with the right diet 25lbs will be gone before the next heat wave

My fat ass is looking to drop 55-60 lbs. Thats a lil different lol...and I already lost 27 lbs since last year

 

[SamSneed]

Congrats brugh. I figure I have to give it some more time. How often did you weigh yourself? And did you plateau or stop losing for a long time?

i weighed myself only 3 times start,mid and end.now i just work out to stay in shape ,not tryin to get swoll just trim

 

[Mr.9mm]

Simply put decrease your caloric intake and increase your cardio + weightlifting.(Caloric intake should depend on height & age) Building muscle uses more carbs over a longer period of time than cardio. Eat approximately 2-3(2 is optimal) meals a day high in green vegetalbes, proteins (fish and chicken), fruits and nuts to snack on through out the day. Many other meats slow down digestion. If you overeat make sure its plenty of vegetables and fruits. After a cardio workout your body will get hungry - drink water, tea, or a protein shake. On the weekends eat two meals a day of whatever you like. Each weekend meal should not be bigger than what you would normally eat throughout the week.

 

[jagu]

sup jag. from what I read fast walking is low intensity. Might not give you the results as quickly. I'd try interval training
You can do any exercise of your choice, just vary the intensity

Along with the right diet 25lbs will be gone before the next heat wave

My fat ass is looking to drop 55-60 lbs. Thats a lil different lol...and I already lost 27 lbs since last year

How did you lose the first 27lbs. The last time I lost weight I had to use a trainer at LA fitness, but I need to cut my expenses with me starting my business. I can't seem to work out hard on my own.

 

[34real]

Damn, did you work out? I'd like to lose 25lbs without working out too hard. Can I do it by changing my diet and fast walking for 2 miles every other day. I hate running.

Yes I work out every other day and I do strickly pushup's(12 sets of 25),a little 20pound dumbell for curlying & bullshit and all done with the sauna suit on.a good 30minutes and Im done.

 

[Rollie_Fingaz]

My diet did the same, when this happens I will occasionally 'shock' my system by eating something out of the ordinary. To me it sounds like your body is adjusting to your diet before you change it. Instead of six weeks, you may have to change every four. Same with your workouts.

I have a diet on the workout board. That might help you out. Also What does your cardio game look like?

 

[moufasa]

Damn, did you work out? I'd like to lose 25lbs without working out too hard. Can I do it by changing my diet and fast walking for 2 miles every other day. I hate running.

I hate running too

Two months ago, I peeped the workout board here and got motivated to finally fight my growing flab. I decided to try to go from 235 to 210, my BMI approriate weight, and just tone up enough to look good in a t-shirt.

I've lost 15 lbs since Feb '09 by biking 5 miles 3X a week, around my neighborhood (@ ~ 15mph) + a basic lifestyle changes both my diet and exercise

My diet is something I feel is sustainable (I could do this for the rest of my life)-
- Oats or brown bread for breakfast
- A chicken/fish salad for lunch with croutons or wheat bread (I make it at home and take to work)
- Nuts for snacks @4pm
- A medium-sized dinner, made of complex carbo.
- Lots of water
- No more sugary foods especially soda, diet Pepsi if I feel the urge
- No more beer, I still drink wine
- Avoid cheating on the calories during weekends

I'm not looking to build bulk, so no workout routings, but I do some a 15 minute basic routine everyday for definition
- 3 X 40X leg raises on a captain's chair I bought off craigslist (abs)
- 15X chin pullups
- no lower body workouts, since I bike anyway

The reward is worth it: today I tried an old size 36 jeans I was gonna toss and it fits.

This is why I will donate again this year. BGOL gave me the motivation and info to do this... and many other things (e.g. my barber has'nt seen me since I read the article here on how to cut my own hair )

GOOD LUCK.

 

[LEs Stroud]

How did you lose the first 27lbs. The last time I lost weight I had to use a trainer at LA fitness, but I need to cut my expenses with me starting my business. I can't seem to work out hard on my own.

Thats the funny part I dont really know. Back then I wasnt working out. It was when I looked back in my journal I realized I was like 277 last year

But I did renovate and gut out my little kitchen by myself. AND I was ordering out for months. But the work was really really physical and I had no help from "friends". Maybe the combo of hard work and eating once or twice a day had something to do with it.

But jag I think you have the discipline to drop 25 or so pounds. In the end I think thats what it boils down to. I'm starting to realize there are many ways to lose weight but one discipline.

 

[kdogg3270]

Cardio is what I focus on with interval training a main stay. My metabolism hit the skids after 20. I been working out and eating strictly since April 3. 09. I'm not seeing the weight loss I hear about on here

Last time I know I dropped weight mad fast was when I was just not eating but playing ball and boxing. I use to eat a little but I was trying to be a vegetarian. Point was though I was taking in very little calories. So I think the plan would work in cycles...not for every day. Just till you drop the target weight

I made a lifestyle change to. I want to be in shape for my 40's and beyond

cardio lookin' on point..i do intervals myself...dropped 10lbs in the past 12 weeks. But i am a relatively lean person. just had a bit of a gut...sounds like your metabolism adjusted. when that happens, it helps to drop your calories even further if possible..you have to experiment to find a level that works for you. so far it's only been a month from what u wrote...give it time.

 

[kdogg3270]

I hate running too

Two months ago, I peeped the workout board here and got motivated to finally fight my growing flab. I decided to try to go from 235 to 210, my BMI approriate weight, and just tone up enough to look good in a t-shirt.

I've lost 15 lbs since Feb '09 by biking 5 miles 3X a week, around my neighborhood (@ ~ 15mph) + a basic lifestyle changes both my diet and exercise

My diet is something I feel is sustainable (I could do this for the rest of my life)-
- Oats or brown bread for breakfast
- A chicken/fish salad for lunch with croutons or wheat bread (I make it at home and take to work)
- Nuts for snacks @4pm
- A medium-sized dinner, made of complex carbo.
- Lots of water
- No more sugary foods especially soda, diet Pepsi if I feel the urge
- No more beer, I still drink wine
- Avoid cheating on the calories during weekends

I'm not looking to build bulk, so no workout routings, but I do some a 15 minute basic routine everyday for definition
- 3 X 40X leg raises on a captain's chair I bought off craigslist (abs)
- 15X chin pullups
- no lower body workouts, since I bike anyway

The reward is worth it: today I tried an old size 36 jeans I was gonna toss and it fits.

This is why I will donate again this year. BGOL gave me the motivation and info to do this... and many other things (e.g. my barber has'nt seen me since I read the article here on how to cut my own hair )

GOOD LUCK.

props on the progress brotha

 

[Damn Right]

sounds like you're serious about it. what i'd suggest is paying a nutrionist with a fitness training background to give you an eating regiment EXPLICITLY FOR YOU. she'll ask you the time you get up, when you go to bed, how many times a day you eat, everything u put in your mouth. the type of 'cheat foods' you like. don't leave ANYTHING out. then she'll hit you up and your work out routine. cardio to free weight training, etc. she'll take all that info and give you exactly what you need.

takes a few days for them to get your eating plan together BUT that sheit works. i did the same a few years back and my sheit was cut like a mutha fuka in less time than i thought it could work. i already had size but limited definition. man, that eating plan had me cut like fuk, but i didn't loose any muscle.

basically, just plan to eat small portions of HEALTHY food every 3 hours. no xceptions. it sounds easier than it really is. i mean you gotta roll with your cans of tuna (in spring water, not the oil based kind). your nuts and fruits. protein powders. wheat breads, fat free mayonaise, mustards, fresh cut turkey meets in an ice chest in the trunk. EVERYTHING. you're gonna drink MAD amounts of water, too, so stay on the look out for restaurants and fast food places to dip in so u can use their facilities. just don't eat sheit in there though!

gl

 

[LEs Stroud]

sounds like you're serious about it. what i'd suggest is paying a nutrionist with a fitness training background to give you an eating regiment EXPLICITLY FOR YOU. she'll ask you the time you get up, when you go to bed, how many times a day you eat, everything u put in your mouth. the type of 'cheat foods' you like. don't leave ANYTHING out. then she'll hit you up and your work out routine. cardio to free weight training, etc. she'll take all that info and give you exactly what you need.

takes a few days for them to get your eating plan together BUT that sheit works. i did the same a few years back and my sheit was cut like a mutha fuka in less time than i thought it could work. i already had size but limited definition. man, that eating plan had me cut like fuk, but i didn't loose any muscle.

basically, just plan to eat small portions of HEALTHY food every 3 hours. no xceptions. it sounds easier than it really is. i mean you gotta roll with your cans of tuna (in spring water, not the oil based kind). your nuts and fruits. protein powders. wheat breads, fat free mayonaise, mustards, fresh cut turkey meets in an ice chest in the trunk. EVERYTHING. you're gonna drink MAD amounts of water, too, so stay on the look out for restaurants and fast food places to dip in so u can use their facilities. just don't eat sheit in there though!

gl

props on the funny but solid advice. Yea I can piss in Mickey Dees but the smell of those fries and apple pies be callin me like pookie. Truth be told though the longer I stay with these healthy habits the more I adjust. I actually opted out for a salad and fresh fruit the day my job had a pizza and chips party. I just didnt want any and was truly satisfied after I finished my salad and fruit meal. I guess the brain is being rewired

 

[mrcmd187]

Rules

No white bread, no white rice, no sugar cereal. Only wheat products (complex carbs.) No red meat, only lean meats (Chicken, turkey and fish only). If you can, stay away from rice and pasta completely! they packed with carbs. No more sodas! No more alcohol, one drink every two weeks if necessary. Only drink water and tea. I suggest natural juice once a week. Eat lots of fruits and veggies. Try to only eat natural foods if you can.

Meals

1. 2 egg whites, toast and fruit or oatmeal + tea 7:00am
2. Chicken salad with crutons or soup and slice of wheat or tuna slaad on wheat(10 am) and water
------NO carbs from this point on-------
3. Meat and veggies or salad with meat + water
4. Meat and veggies or salad with meat + water
5. Meat and veggies or salad with meat + water


If you get hungy at night? Then drink some Oolong tea or black tea (induces fat burn*)

Cheating: You must cheat! If ye eat strict all the time your body will continue to store the fat and not burn it because it (body) kinda uses subcutaneous fat to protect organs. So you need to confuse your body. Therefore one cheat meal a week. Have your favorite food providing you have been eating strict. Maybe some cake and icecream for deseart with a healthy meal.

Working out

You must work out your entire body. Do core last and do core every day. One day upper body and core, next day lower body and core and so on. Do cardio and inteval training also. you will see results.

Peace

This works believe went from 251 with 27% BF to 220 with 18% BF. Check the carb count on your shakes, some shakes can have from 2 to 30 card a serving.

 

[donwuan]

your not taking in enough calories. Your body sees this and is holding on for dear life. Increase your calories. Use fitday.com to track them and learn what you need to lose weight. Get a pre-made professional work out off the net. Google homegrown muscle or check out the Abs Diet II video. But starving your body will not fool it. You also need a good daily vitamins and some Omega 3.

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