Why isn't ADOS making 45 and the GOP provide reparations?

[Drayonis]

The Democrats need the votes to be placed in a position of power to implement policy.

Catch 22, but you wont vote for them to be in power unless they give you reparations, but they aren't in power so they can't give you reparations - but you wont vote for them to be in power unless they give you reparations, but they aren't in power so they can't give you reparations - but you wont vote for them to be in power unless they give you reparations, but they aren't in power so they can't give you reparations - but you wont vote for them to be in power unless they give you reparations, but they aren't in power so they can't give you reparations -

 

[veritech]

Catch 22, but you wont vote for them to be in power unless they give you reparations, but they aren't in power so they can't give you reparations - but you wont vote for them to be in power unless they give you reparations, but they aren't in power so they can't give you reparations - but you wont vote for them to be in power unless they give you reparations, but they aren't in power so they can't give you reparations - but you wont vote for them to be in power unless they give you reparations, but they aren't in power so they can't give you reparations -

that is exactly why i didn't entertain that nonsense.

just dumb as fuck. and i am really trying not to call people dumb.

 

[Drayonis]

that is exactly why i didn't entertain that nonsense.

just dumb as fuck. and i am really trying not to call people dumb.

Did you see the other post where the bgol member said "voting was dumb and didnt real mean anything anyway" and when I asked him. If voting doesn't mean anything and doesn't really matter then how can you use it as a "bargaining chip"? Old boy didnt respond and didn't come back the thread....

 

[veritech]

Did you see the other post where the bgol member said "voting was dumb and didnt real mean anything anyway" and when I asked him. If voting doesn't mean anything and doesn't really matter then how can you use it as a "bargaining chip"? Old boy didnt respond and didn't come back the thread....

All of this is just to keep 45 in office. I can't believe that people on bgol would either participate in or fall for such fuckery.

There really are infiltrators here.

 

[Drayonis]

All of this is just to keep 45 in office. I can't believe that people on bgol would either participate in or fall for such fuckery.

There really are infiltrators here.

I honestly say pay them no real mind. The majority of voting black folks aren't going to stop voting. If you look at the debate threads, most are still highly involved. While I support reparations I dont think that tactic is the way to go about getting it. Also notice Trump and his crew are using the issue of "qualifying blacks blackness" as a weapon. Locking arms with the ados crew

 

[Spectrum]

Democrats are a white power structure. Pelosi, the Clintons, etc run the party.

This is where I agree with you. I don't disagree with ADOS's stance. However, I disagree with you in that if we don't get what we want, ending up with Trump is fine. I'd rather take a weak democrat than Trump. Like I said, the Supreme Court alone is worth taking a weak democrat. You're gonna die and your kids are going to be left with straight up right-wing zealots declaring their rights away from the bench. There is no world where your kid is better off with Gorsuch than another RBG. It's a delicate thing to manage man.

 

[Drayonis]

This is where I agree with you. I don't disagree with ADOS's stance. However, I disagree with you in that if we don't get what we want, ending up with Trump is fine. I'd rather take a weak democrat than Trump. Like I said, the Supreme Court alone is worth taking a weak democrat. You're gonna die and your kids are going to be left with straight up right-wing zealots declaring their rights away from the bench. There is no world where your kid is better off with Gorsuch than another RBG. It's a delicate thing to manage man.

They dont care man. They dont think conservative judges effect them. A lot of it is not only a lack of understanding of how government works but also how it effects their lives directly.

If reperations were someday decided to be paid out the same conservative judges (they don't think matter) could stand in the way of it through legal wranglings.

 

[Spectrum]

They dont care man. They dont think conservative judges effect them. A lot of it is not only a lack of understanding of how government works but also how it effects their lives directly.

If reperations were someday decided to be paid out the same conservative judges (they don't think matter) could stand in the way of it through legal wranglings.

No doubt. This Supreme Court would label it unconstitutional. I'm sure of it.

This is where Republican voters have Democrats beat. They unite behind their candidate because they know even if they don't get everything they want, they'll get some things they want as opposed to nothing.

Trump might be a clown to us, but he's delivering conservative judges to lifetime appointments. I read their sites... they say it's worth it for that alone... even if he was found to be a traitor it would still be worth it to them because 40 years from now these judges will still be on the bench.

 

[trstar]

The ADOS movement, which has some merit, is turning into a clown show.

What does ADOS want? What’s the number? Is it land? Sovereign status? A state? Policy?
What is the ask?

 

[Loan Me 20]

It's funny, they don't expect anything from Republicans yet some of them think that Democrats are no different. So they want Democrats, who are no different than the Republicans who haven't done anything for them, to do something for them...despite being exactly like the people who won't do anything for them. Try to figure that shit out. They're A-Okay with sitting back while Trump's administration continues to fuck over everyone who isn't rich and white on top of him being incompetent and an overall garbage human being. That's why I just sit back and laugh at them.

 

[Drayonis]

It's funny, they don't expect anything from Republicans yet some of them think that Democrats are no different. So they want Democrats, who are no different than the Republicans who haven't done anything for them, to do something for them...despite being exactly like the people who won't do anything for them. Try to figure that shit out. They're A-Okay with sitting back while Trump's administration continues to fuck over everyone who isn't rich and white on top of him being incompetent and an overall garbage human being. That's why I just sit back and laugh at them.

I honestly don't think reparations is truly the goal from them. The goal is to get black people to not vote. Period. Point blank.

The loudest ones? That's their goal. I've had arguments with people who don't know what Congress does, don't understand what the Senate does, doesn't understand what purpose the Supreme Court serves. They just scream "cut the check" and then high-five each other.

 

[veritech]

I honestly don't think reparations is truly the goal from them. The goal is to get black people to not vote. Period. Point blank.

The loudest ones? That's the goal. I've had arguments with people who don't know what Congress does, don't understand what the Senate does, doesn't understand what purpose the Supreme Court serves. They just scream "cut the check" and then high-five each other.

i didn't want to put that out there. but that is clearly the case.

the loudest ones are the most under educated.

 

[veritech]

The ADOS movement, which has some merit, is turning into a clown show.

What does ADOS want? What’s the number? Is it land? Sovereign status? A state? Policy?
What is the ask?

they can't answer that because that is not the goal.

 

[totto]

45 and the GOP control the federal government right now.

why isn't ADOS demanding that 45 and the GOP develop policy to provide the reparations owed to ADOS right now?

they are in power right now and can make it happen right now.

Republicans don't "cater" to black people like Democrats do....

CNN, MSNBC and more typically are the ones showing "sympathy" to black kids getting killed by police, Fox News never gave a crap.

So what should we do when we don't even vote Republican at a 15% clip... we're 90% democrats...

 

[RAY V.]

I wonder who would be considered The ADOS leader?

 

[three-fifths]

once more, why r u begging the white man?

white man will never comprehend any of the black man's soft-assed, marsh-mallowed, billygoat bleatings.

physically fight whitey, and SEIZE your birthright.

 

[totto]

Because a portion of them work for cacs and are only trying to suppress black voter turnout. Fucking pathetic

What do most of us get though? I'm speaking the truck driver making 45k a year, I mean seriously what everyday dudes get from Democrats?

Democrats specifically catering for Black Women, what we get through?

I hear ya'll stay calling niggas coons and all this but don't explain what the everyday brother gets?

I mean maybe you'll need to keep it real and call it "classism" first, "racism" second because these Democrats sure do love giving black folks hugs and singing church helms but can't do nothing to prevent anything.

 

[veritech]

Republicans don't "cater" to black people like Democrats do....

CNN, MSNBC and more typically are the ones showing "sympathy" to black kids getting killed by police, Fox News never gave a crap.

So what should we do when we don't even vote Republican at a 15% clip... we're 90% democrats...

the democrats have no authority or power to provide anything right now. so unless they are voted in ADOS needs to bark up the tree with the money.

 

[Drayonis]

once more, why r u begging the white man?

white man will never comprehend any of the black man's soft-assed, marsh-mallowed, billygoat bleatings.

physically fight whitey, and SEIZE your birthright.

I know you're clowning but I actually believe this is a smarter path than "asking" your enemy for it. Taking it by force makes more sense.

 

[forcesteeler]

the democrats have no authority or power to provide anything right now. so unless they are voted in ADOS needs to bark up the tree with the money.

Voting is a business transaction. If the democrats bring nothing to the table and come with there empty hands then black people should show up empty handed come Election Day.

You have to be stupid to keep voting for a party for 50+ years and these people are doing everything for other groups expect black people.

Do you know the most powerful word in business. Is the word NO.

It’s time to sit 2020 out and scare the democrats. I can bet you when trump wins in 2020. In 2024 they will be on there knees trying to give us reparations.

That’s why the democrats do not respect the black vote. You do not know how to say NO. During the debates they were taking about LGBT, illegal immigrants and nothing about black issues unless you want to count the black transgender.

Another 4 years of trump don’t mean shit. It’s time to switch up and say NO. Stop blinding being loyal to a party that does nothing for you or your community.

Tangibles or nothing.

 

[exiledking]

u literally have no answer.

this isn't about the democrats. it is about the party in power.

they have the purse strings currently. why isn't ADOS offering policy to the GOP in order to get reparations from the current party in power. democrats have no power to offer reparations right now. the GOP does.

Same reason this wasnt even an.issue the whole time Obama.was in. Sure, it was some amusing shit for Ta Nehasi Coates to write about but no one really thinks reparations is a real thing. It's just something fun for these folk to talk about. It'll disappear soon.

 

[exiledking]

once more, why r u begging the white man?

white man will never comprehend any of the black man's soft-assed, marsh-mallowed, billygoat bleatings.

physically fight whitey, and SEIZE your birthright.

Brilliant idea. You first.

 

[exiledking]

I wonder who would be considered The ADOS leader?

Yvette Carnell LMAOOOOOO. Oh and that cranky sidekick of hers.

 

[exiledking]

The ADOS movement, which has some merit, is turning into a clown show.

What does ADOS want? What’s the number? Is it land? Sovereign status? A state? Policy?
What is the ask?

Ask Tariq Nasheed. He got all the answers

 

[Watcher]

Voting is a business transaction. If the democrats bring nothing to the table and come with there empty hands then black people should show up empty handed come Election Day.

You have to be stupid to keep voting for a party for 50+ years and these people are doing everything for other groups expect black people.

Do you know the most powerful word in business. Is the word NO.

It’s time to sit 2020 out and scare the democrats. I can bet you when trump wins in 2020. In 2024 they will be on there knees trying to give us reparations.

That’s why the democrats do not respect the black vote. You do not know how to say NO. During the debates they were taking about LGBT, illegal immigrants and nothing about black issues unless you want to count the black transgender.

Another 4 years of trump don’t mean shit. It’s time to switch up and say NO. Stop blinding being loyal to a party that does nothing for you or your community.

Tangibles or nothing.

Same rhetoric in 2016 still dumb now.

Let’s assume your post isn’t full of lies, it is. Why would any politician care about a block of people that doesn’t vote? The tea party voted people out of office and took over an entire party because of the threat of voting someone out if they didn’t fall in line.

 

[forcesteeler]

Same rhetoric in 2016 still dumb now.

Let’s assume your post isn’t full of lies, it is. Why would any politician care about a block of people that doesn’t vote? The tea party voted people out of office and took over an entire party because of the threat of voting someone out if they didn’t fall in line.

Buddy you just proof my point. Black vote is the base of the Democratic Party and on the democratic debates. How many black issues did they bring up? Almost none. The candidates are focus on LGBT rights, immigration and Hispanics. They don’t care about the black vote because you do not have to fight for it. They already feel they have the black vote in the bag because for decades we vote and ask for nothing in return.

We are just saying that it’s time for us too say NO and stay home unless we get tangibles for our community. Which by the way is what every other group does. No other group just blindly vote for 1 party. The only group that blindly votes is black people.

At least Hispanics are opening minded and is not scared to stay home or vote for another party. Which is why you see the democratic candidates speaking Spanish and trying to earn there vote.

 

[Drayonis]

It’s time to sit 2020 out and scare the democrats. I can bet you when trump wins in 2020. In 2024 they will be on there knees trying to give us reparations.

How can they give you reperations if they aren't in power? Remember you aren't voting. That means no mid-terms and no presidency. So they dont control anything. So how can they give you anything? Not to mention the supreme court is now loaded with conservatives, appointed federal judges are now loaded with conservatives. Further blocking you even more from reparations....

 

[sammyjax]

So fucking sad how easy we fall for the tricks.

 

[veritech]

How can they give you reperations if they aren't in power? Remember you aren't voting. That means no mid-terms and no presidency. So they dont control anything. So how can they give you anything? Not to mention the supreme court is now loaded with conservatives, appointed federal judges are now loaded with conservatives. Further blocking you even more from reparations....

they will never address the actual facts.

the goal is to confuse and obfuscate.

 

[fonzerrillii]

45 and the GOP control the federal government right now.

why isn't ADOS demanding that 45 and the GOP develop policy to provide the reparations owed to ADOS right now?

they are in power right now and can make it happen right now.

I know right

This is what I was talking about in the other thread

 

[hocjo2626]

Simple, because they want 45 to stay in power as their true leader has instructed them to do.

 

[Spectrum]

It’s time to sit 2020 out and scare the democrats. I can bet you when trump wins in 2020. In 2024 they will be on there knees trying to give us reparations.
.

I don't think yall understand how this works. 4 more years of Trump equals two more new appointments to the Supreme Court and 100s more federal right-wing judges with lifetime appointments. It wouldn't matter what anyone wanted in 2024, a far right wing court would invalidate it as unconstitutional.

Yall don't truly understand what's happening right now with the judicial branch

This shit is so stupid that I'm almost wondering if the primary goal is to have black people not vote.

 

[hocjo2626]

ADOS is basically the newest version of Tavis Smiley and Cornell West.
Will vehemently and publicly attack Black Folks who disagree with them.
Yet give the White Power Structure a "PASS" by hardly saying shit.

 

[Darrkman]

45 and the GOP control the federal government right now.

why isn't ADOS demanding that 45 and the GOP develop policy to provide the reparations owed to ADOS right now?

they are in power right now and can make it happen right now.

ADOS isn't really about reparations.....its about trying to get Black people to stay home and not vote. Let's be real Yvette Carnell works for a white supremacist organization and the ADOS website was actually praising Reagan and Trump while dogging out Obama. When they got called out on it they changed it. That more than anything else should tell what what's up.

 

[hocjo2626]

I wonder who would be considered The ADOS leader?

Ohhh...ohhhh....I know..... I know!

ADOS = Vladimir Putin