Why Do Black People Love Tyler Perry?

I guess the brother speaks to my fantasies, too. As a black man, I fantasize about seeing black couples get together, stick it out, have varying economic lifestyles, and love each other with a spiritual bond to themselves, God, and their communities. So yeah, since his movies do that, I guess I drank the Kool-Aid, too.

I wouldn't have it any other way.
 
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I guess the brother speaks to my fantasies, too. As a black man, I fantasize about seeing black couples get together, stick it out, have varying economic lifestyles, and love each other with a spiritual bond to themselves, God, and their communities. So yeah, since his movies do that, I guess I drank the Kool-Aid, too.

I wouldn't have it any other way.

-Shola
in laimen terms your a simp that share fantasies of black women getting away with their bullshit... ookay
 
LOL....that's too funny. I'm being called a simp on Black Girl Online because I enjoy seeing visions on the screen of a prosperous and healthy black community.

Y'all ninjas kill me sometimes.

Do me a favor. Go find a Tariq Nasheed podcast, sing his praises of the joy of the pimp lifestyle, find me a White,Asian, or Latina chick, post her GLORIOUS picture on Black Girl Online for the 'real' black men to faun over, then finish off with a post of how Obama really does suck and how Pastor Wright is a nigga who needs to learn to shut the fuck up.

That sounds about right.

Do that for me. It'll be true to form around here.
 
LOL....that's too funny. I'm being called a simp on Black Girl Online because I enjoy seeing visions on the screen of a prosperous and healthy black community.

Y'all ninjas kill me sometimes.

Do me a favor. Go find a Tariq Nasheed podcast, sing his praises of the joy of the pimp lifestyle, find me a White,Asian, or Latina chick, post her GLORIOUS picture on Black Girl Online for the 'real' black men to faun over, then finish off with a post of how Obama really does suck and how Pastor Wright is a nigga who needs to learn to shut the fuck up.

That sounds about right.

Do that for me. It'll be true to form around here.
Listen playa im not advocating any lifestyle. The point I was making in starting this thread was TP films appear to pit light against Dark, Fat against Skinny and Man against Woman. You are only acknowledging a part of the message in his films.
 
LOL....that's too funny. I'm being called a simp on Black Girl Online because I enjoy seeing visions on the screen of a prosperous and healthy black community.

Y'all ninjas kill me sometimes.

Do me a favor. Go find a Tariq Nasheed podcast, sing his praises of the joy of the pimp lifestyle, find me a White,Asian, or Latina chick, post her GLORIOUS picture on Black Girl Online for the 'real' black men to faun over, then finish off with a post of how Obama really does suck and how Pastor Wright is a nigga who needs to learn to shut the fuck up.

That sounds about right.

Do that for me. It'll be true to form around here.

Look their is a single black mother with 5 kids by 4 different niggas, put ya cape on and save that bitch like Tyler wrote in the fucking script ya simp
 
Why are people hating on Tyler Perry?? He went from being homeless to being a multi-millionaire. He went from producing plays on the "chitlin circuit" to producing mainstream family movies that do extremely well at the box-office. He's is one of the only producers in Hollywood thats giving Black actors jobs.

I'm not mad at Tyler for catering to Black women...thats his fanbase. They have been riding with him since day 1. Black women made him a millionaire.

His first 2 movies were OK. I really enjoyed "Daddy's Little Girls" & "Why Did I Get Married" though. His movies aren't the best plot wise but he does have a positive message in all of his movies. Plus, you can take your family out to see his movies.
 
Why are people hating on Tyler Perry?? He went from being homeless to being a multi-millionaire. He went from producing plays on the "chitlin circuit" to producing mainstream family movies that do extremely well at the box-office. He's is one of the only producers in Hollywood thats giving Black actors jobs.

I'm not mad at Tyler for catering to Black women...thats his fanbase. They have been riding with him since day 1. Black women made him a millionaire.

His first 2 movies were OK. I really enjoyed "Daddy's Little Girls" & "Why Did I Get Married" though. His movies aren't the best plot wise but he does have a positive message in all of his movies. Plus, you can take your family out to see his movies.

replace the dr with g
 
Why are people hating on Tyler Perry??

Because he doesn't cater to "thug" moviegoers, who are programmed to expect only murder, mayhem, rap, sex, drugs and profanity (all from a macho, male point-of-view) in black (or any other) films.

These viewers tend to confuse their narrow-minded ignorance with "masculinity."
 
Because he doesn't cater to "thug" moviegoers, who are programmed to expect only murder, mayhem, rap, sex, drugs and profanity in black (or any other) films.

These viewers tend to confuse their narrow-minded ignorance with "masculinity."

instead he enforces relationship stereotype of black relationships
 
Because he doesn't cater to "thug" moviegoers, who are programmed to expect only murder, mayhem, rap, sex, drugs and profanity (all from a macho, male point-of-view) in black (or any other) films.

These viewers tend to confuse their narrow-minded ignorance with "masculinity."
Just because you dont like TP movies does not make you a "Thug" moviegoer.
 
LOL....that's too funny. I'm being called a simp on Black Girl Online because I enjoy seeing visions on the screen of a prosperous and healthy black community.

Y'all ninjas kill me sometimes.

Do me a favor. Go find a Tariq Nasheed podcast, sing his praises of the joy of the pimp lifestyle, find me a White,Asian, or Latina chick, post her GLORIOUS picture on Black Girl Online for the 'real' black men to faun over, then finish off with a post of how Obama really does suck and how Pastor Wright is a nigga who needs to learn to shut the fuck up.

That sounds about right.

Do that for me. It'll be true to form around here.
Your a fucking weak ass simp.
 
Here's an article I found. Some of you might find it interesting:
The Rise of Tyler Perry
As the superstar returns with "Meet the Browns," one critic discusses his business savvy, his dedicated audience ... and his disheartening mediocrity

By David Walker
Special to MSN Movies


It wasn't all that long ago that the only people who knew Tyler Perry were the loyal fans he had built through his faith-based stage plays. Touring along a modern-day "chitlin' circuit" that catered primarily to black audiences, Perry found success through a series of plays he had written that mixed melodrama and lowbrow comedy with moralizing sermons inspired by his Christian beliefs. It was these plays, many featuring him in the cross-dressing role of an aging black woman named Madea, that helped Perry become the man he is today.

Building upon the success of his plays, which he would film on video and sell on DVD, Perry turned his faith and his limited talent as a writer into an empire, earning a respectable fortune in less than a decade. To his fans he is a talented genius who speaks to the black working and middle class, using faith to build a moral foundation for his work. To his critics he is a savvy businessman with nominal talent, who has used faith-based entertainment to build a powerful media empire the same way Vince McMahon used "sports entertainment" to transform professional wrestling into a money-making machine. And while comparing Perry's plays to professional wrestling may seem like a stretch, both were marginalized forms of live entertainment that thrived through the loyalty of fans who came to see very specific things. In the case of wrestling, it was men in a ring hitting each other with folding metal chairs. In the case of Perry's plays, it was one-dimensional characters facing trying times who are overcome by faith in God and love of Jesus.

When Perry's "Why Did I Get Married?" debuted in October 2007 at No. 1, it was the third film in a row from the Atlanta-based entertainment mogul to reach that coveted spot, and his fourth film to clean up at the box office. Grossing more than $21 million during its opening weekend (with a final gross of approximately $55 million), the success of "Why Did I Get Married?" seemed to come as a surprise to Hollywood. For many, Perry was an unknown quantity, a rising star who made a name for himself outside of mainstream film, but whose string of successes marked the arrival of an undeniable force.

Perry's earlier theatrical films, "Daddy's Little Girls," "Madea's Family Reunion" and "Diary of a Mad Black Woman" (the only one he did not direct), had already earned a collective $140 million-plus, and the opening weekend of "Why Did I Get Married?" was enough to get the industry buzzing about the man and his success. In Entertainment Weekly, Joshua Rich wrote, "Cutting right to the chase, it's clear now more than ever that Perry's appeal goes beyond urban or African American crowds, because you just can't pull off a victory as decisive as this without attracting folks from a diversity of demographics."

While there may be some validity to Rich's statement, it is still based on an ignorant and racist supposition that fails to realistically take into account black consumers. Sure, some white people may be going to see Perry's films, but based on the type of money he is earning it is not a foregone conclusion that he has crossed over. On the contrary: If anything, Perry's success at the box office is more likely than not proof that he is simply getting black people into theaters that otherwise might not go.

There are approximately 37 million black people in the United States. In order for a film to gross $21 million in its opening weekend, it would require 3 million people purchasing tickets at an average cost of $7 each. That means it would take less than 10 percent of all the black people in America (or less than one percent of all Americans) buying tickets to "Why Did I Get Married?" for the film to earn $21 million.

So, that means two things. First, it doesn't take that many people buying tickets for a film to make it to No. 1 at the box office on a slow weekend, and there are certainly enough black people to do so with little problem. Second, whatever success Perry may be finding is partially a result of the entertainment industry both underestimating black consumers and underserving black audiences.

The reality is that, as far as Hollywood is concerned, the demographic that matters the most is white males age 16-24. Most of the executives who run the studios would probably be surprised to find out that there are black women over the age of 30 who want to see movies. This is a sizeable audience that Hollywood has ignored since "How Stella Got Her Groove Back" failed to do the same numbers as "Waiting to Exhale." But Perry has wisely built much of his career catering specifically -- and almost exclusively -- to this demographic. The result is a huge, primarily untapped audience that turns out en masse whenever one of his films opens.

Several weeks after "Why Did I Get Married?" opened, Entertainment Weekly placed Perry at No. 7 on its list of the 50 Smartest People in Hollywood. And, to be sure, Perry is a savvy businessman who has managed to build a small empire for himself that includes books, films, DVD, television and live theater. But what most people fail to either realize or recognize is that Perry's successful business model is a throwback to the days before desegregation in America.

Before the Civil Rights Act of 1964, black entrepreneurs built empires by providing goods and services that were often unavailable to black Americans in the mainstream. This was also true of motion pictures, which had a thriving industry of "race films," many of which were made and distributed by the prolific Oscar Micheaux. These films, which were made from the early 1900s all the way until the late 1940s, catered to a black audience that was seldom being served in mainstream movies. For all intents and purposes, this is the same model Perry has adopted.

By producing films for a population base that is constantly being underestimated, Perry comes across like a genius who has reinvented the wheel. And when you add in the fact that he is astute enough to pander to the churchgoing crowd by always delivering ham-fisted, faith-based sermons in all of his films that reinforce a devotion to God and Jesus, Perry is earning money that he richly deserves -- at least for being smart. But Perry's financial rewards for his actual talent as a filmmaker are dubious at best.

For all the millions of dollars he has managed to rake in from his many projects, Perry is earning his money from audiences so hungry for relatable on-screen representations that they will consume whatever is put in front of them. The often mind-numbing lack of quality in Perry's films serves as evidence that a starving person will eat anything.

While some filmmakers create intricate cinematic portraits utilizing tools akin to the finest brushes money can buy and an endless spectrum of vibrant oils, pastels and acrylics, Perry clumsily uses crayons and markers to color in his paint-by-numbers stories. And even then he has trouble staying inside the lines. His everything-and-the-kitchen-sink stories are driven by tired clichés, mono-dimensional characters, sophomoric comedic timing in need of a laugh track, and flourishes of melodrama that have all the subtlety of a sledgehammer to the face. Even as a playwright, Perry is nowhere close to giving August Wilson or Neil Simon a run for their money. But he still manages to appeal to audiences by mixing cheap laughs with Jesus-loves-you preaching, creating a strange mix of religious sitcom ideology.

None of this is to say that Perry is a terrible filmmaker, because he isn't any worse than a whole lot of people cranking out populist schlock for Hollywood. And if predictable no-brainers served up with a dose of praises to Jesus and hallelujahs are what entertain you, then Perry has just what it takes to lull you into a stupor. But, at the same time, there is a degree of frustration from wondering how truly successful he could be if he simply made something good. The problem is that his loyal fan base will accept whatever he serves up, while at the same time attacking anyone who criticizes his work (when Roger Ebert posted a negative review of "Diary of a Mad Black Woman," it created a vocal uproar where the famous critic was labeled a racist). This leaves Perry in the enviable position of not having to make good work that will still be supported by loyal fans prepared to defend his right to mediocrity.

The chances of Perry moving above and beyond the level of success he currently enjoys is dependent upon him either stepping up his game and making better films or getting a chance to work in Hollywood. Indeed, Perry is ideal for making the move to Hollywood, as he has proven to be a nonthreatening black man who has built much of his success by being a transvestite. If there is one thing Hollywood loves, it is a charismatic black man who is willing to trade his masculinity for success by putting on a dress.

But the reality is that Perry doesn't need to go to Hollywood, or any other part of mainstream entertainment that still scratches its head over how to serve black audiences. We are, after all, talking about a collective industry that once said rap and hip-hop were passing fads that would never make money. This is an industry that has forgotten how "The Cosby Show" turned NBC into a juggernaut in the 1980s, not to mention all the black programs used to launch FOX, UPN and WB. This is also an industry that repeatedly claims that films with black actors don't do good box office overseas, only to have Will Smith's "I Am Legend" make more in foreign sales than domestic.

With his new film, "Meet the Browns," industry eyes will be watching to see what sort of money the film makes on opening weekend. What will be interesting to see is if the film manages to carry Perry to a higher level of success, and if the film does any business overseas. What will also be interesting to see is if Hollywood can learn a valuable lesson from Perry, and begin to cater to black audiences by telling stories that exist outside the narrow confines of what the studios think
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Here's a link to the original piece: http://movies.msn.com/movies/moviesfeature/tylerperry?news=306334&mpc=1
 
Just because you dont like TP movies does not make you a "Thug" moviegoer.

That depends on the kind of movies you do like, and how you justify being more worked up about TP's innocent material than anything else. Judging by this board, few people like anything but action, sex, violenc, crude comedy and horror. All of which are lowest-common-denominator ("thug") stuff.
 
That depends on the kind of movies you do like, and how you justify being more worked up about TP's innocent material than anything else. Judging by this board, few people like anything but action, sex, violenc, crude comedy and horror. All of which are lowest-common-denominator ("thug") stuff.
I guess you define what is Thug and what is not. I like action movies and dont consider my viewing habits to be that of a thug. Your painting some broad strokes buddy.
 
I wish the brother every success in all of his future endeavors, but I wouldn't watch one of his movies or plays if you paid me.

I respect the nigga hustle, but u won't catch me watching none of his bullshyt..

Couldn't have said it better.

I'm not mad at Tyler for catering to Black women...thats his fanbase. They have been riding with him since day 1. Black women made him a millionaire.

I agree with this as well. I won't watch his shit but his business acumen can't be denied. Not too many black mofos can say they own their own film/tv studio. And as his "empire" grows hopefully he will give opportunities to black filmmakers who actually have talent.
 
...BLACK PEOPLE love Tyler Perry and if you are Black and still don't understand that, then you need help....take a look at the entertainment industry...music and film.....if you're happy with the way Blacks are being portrayed then you must be dumb and blind....we need more Tyler Perry's...one brother producing, writing, directing and being successful without acting a fool, or selling out to the "keep it real generation" and you question it :confused::confused::confused:
 
...BLACK PEOPLE love Tyler Perry and if you are Black and still don't understand that, then you need help....take a look at the entertainment industry...music and film.....if you're happy with the way Blacks are being portrayed then you must be dumb and blind....we need more Tyler Perry's...one brother producing, writing, directing and being successful without acting a fool, or selling out to the "keep it real generation" and you question it :confused::confused::confused:

all credibility lost...with just four words.:hmm::lol:
 
As opposed to enforcing the USUAL 'hood stereotypes that everyone loves so much.

Not much of a difference though between them anyway. Same thing in the end, in a gangsta movie, you see broke black men throwing around the N word and dreaming of robbing a bank, in a TP movie you see a black couple that can't get along or has some major type of family problem. You see a very strong black woman "who doesn't need a man to do anything for her".

Same thing in the end and both produce the same result. Black separatism, TP is basically gonna run your favorite place of worship outta business since black people are so uplifted by his movies....
 
The problem here is the racist nature of hollywood - Black people are only allowed for the most part ONE actor, ONE actress, and One director in any period. No one actor, actress or director can possibly represent the richness that is the Black experience..especially if they are chosen for us by hollywood - because hollywood is always going to feed us the most watered down, innocuous, non threatening, bullshit.
 
I originally thought Tyler Perry was cooning until I watched Madea's Family reunion. I admit the acting isn't the greatest but the stories are real and he has black folks working for him. He didn't sellout and he total control of his business. I will never understand why our people can diss one of our own when they are doing right. It amazes me that folks will pay 7 bucks to go see some lame as cracka movie but diss a positive story about our own plight. Stand up and show some love for our brothers and sisters. We are all we got!!!
 
Because he's black!
Because he went from rags to riches...
Because he doesn't have to confirm to the degradation of our people to earn money...

Self hate is ugly my brother...

And no, I don't like many of his plays, but I approve of the points he makes...
 
I originally thought Tyler Perry was cooning until I watched Madea's Family reunion. I admit the acting isn't the greatest but the stories are real and he has black folks working for him. He didn't sellout and he total control of his business. I will never understand why our people can diss one of our own when they are doing right. It amazes me that folks will pay 7 bucks to go see some lame as cracka movie but diss a positive story about our own plight. Stand up and show some love for our brothers and sisters. We are all we got!!!

If it sucks, it sucks. No matter who made it.
 

And BLUNT is spitting REAL TALK. Tyler is putting black talent to work in positive movies. They might not be the deepest movies, but they can certainly be refreshing.

- well as long as folks acknowledge what tyler perry is then that's cool, but at the same time, respect the fact that not all black people want to watch that dumbed down overly simplistic bullshit.
 
I finally read an article in a magazine I picked up a week or so ago.

After he got things going with the plays and DVDs, he was making 150Million on his own. Then independent studios, picked him on through William Morris at 200Million contract.

The studio started to dictate to Perry how the flix should go and he told him "I can't work like that". They let him be. He has total creative power and is building space with two sound stage in ATL. He also purchuse land to build a 5 soundstage facility. He wants to go the way of Oprah with her on cable network channel.

He own all his on work. Like him or not, he's making 500 million. :dance: He's breaking ground for Blacks in the industry. Yet, on the stage of Star Trek...no one knew who he is and what kind of dollars he's rep'n. He somehow hit the vein with "chitlin circuit"...the disenfranchise self made Black-owned entertainment dollar.

It said he had a GF in NY but he won't disclose.
 
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man sometimes I wonder if somebody created a big bird type of character for black kids on PBS, but only it was a black man in a chicken suit that ran around telling black kids to stay in school, stay off drugs, don't get pregnant etc etc...

let that shit make millions and millions of dollars, and I'm willing to bet black folks would support and defend that bullshit too.

just because somebody is sending out a positive message doesn't make it any less offensive...tyler perry relies HEAVILY on black stereotypes (but so does BET but i digress), the man bounces around in a dress and makeup, what, he couldn't get a WOMAN ACTRESS to be madea? gotta think about the kinds of messages/images we are putting out there for our youth people...and when tyler perry comes out of the closet, it's a wrap.
 
man sometimes I wonder if somebody created a big bird type of character for black kids on PBS, but only it was a black man in a chicken suit that ran around telling black kids to stay in school, stay off drugs, don't get pregnant etc etc...

let that shit make millions and millions of dollars, and I'm willing to bet black folks would support and defend that bullshit too.

just because somebody is sending out a positive message doesn't make it any less offensive...tyler perry relies HEAVILY on black stereotypes (but so does BET but i digress), the man bounces around in a dress and makeup, what, he couldn't get a WOMAN ACTRESS to be madea? gotta think about the kinds of messages/images we are putting out there for our youth people...and when tyler perry comes out of the closet, it's a wrap.

Meadea is suppose to be cross between his mother and his aunt. But OK, if you going to hate on Medea then you gotta hate on Martin Lawrence, and Eddie Murphy. What gets me is how it that Medea doesn't offend most men...It's not like he's going round like bitch in the row switching or shaking his hips. He don't come off gay....Except when he do the big nasty titty flap thang. :lol::lol:

But really I wouldn't go see Eddie and Martin in the same kind of movies...that shit was skeevy.
 
House of Payne sucks. I mean seriously its really bad.

The only movie of his I liked was why did I get married. And even then they didn't address that cheating bitch infecting her husband. Now with all the bullshit going on with women berating the fellas about bringing disease to them, this woman get a pass? WTF.


And as far as the trend some here noticed about Tyler Perry casting, quite a few of my female friends have noticed the trend as well. Whats so funny is my girl was watchin' "House of Payne" last night and said the exact same thing and sited 3 examples.

For me, Spike Lee is the man. Tyler Perry is strictly niche, and does it well. I'm not hating on him though.
 
I think people are reading to much into TP and his movie. Yes, I am a young, AA Woman. The reason why I enjoy TP movies is because they are positive.

I don't like screwball white people comedies
I don't like horror films
I don't like war films

I like romantic comedies (but white based romance films I rarely relate to)
I like murder mysteries
I like the occasional sci-fi flick (I am Legend, Cloverfield, etc...)
I like biographies


I am a Christian and I strive to be a better person everyday. I support TP because yes, he has the same "simple message":

Strive to be better
Don't give up
God has a plan for you

I think that if people don't believe in God and/or don't believe the spiritual message that TP is telling in all of his plays, books, and or movies... then you won't enjoy his body of work. Would you rather him protray women who act like Tiffany "New York" Pollard?

In addition, as a black woman when I see another black woman playing a character (particularly a villlaness) on small screen or big screen .... I don't sit up there and say:

"Oh she makes all black women look bad"

or

"i'm boycotting this movie because they have a character in it who wasnt the girl next door type and therefore she makes all black women look bad"


I mean what the fuck.... can't no one make me look bad but me. I am my own individual. I hope that most people (if not all) have enough intelligence to separate a character being betrayed in a film from a whole race of women. TP has covered a whole range of different personalities. TP is encouraging a lot of women to love themselves enough to not be in abusive relationships, to not give up when the going gets tough, etc..... Why do we has African American women have to be put into the brainwashed idiots box because we support something that brings us to the light as oppose to the dark?!

I bet if TP produced movies minus the "God" factor he would be held as a genius. I bet yall Hollywood would accept him 100% then.

Black Men (not all, but the majority) the time will come when you will have to pick which master yall wanna serve for an eternity. Yea, I'm on the porn board preaching *shrugs* it is what it is... but I'm seeing more and more where Black Men are turning on God, Family, Black Women, etc... yall are going down a dark path... if anything TP is helping yall... one of the many messages he puts in his movies is for Black Women not to give up on their men, to stay and support the black man, to work out our differences... but yall so busy hating, yall missing what is important.

Yea, we as Black Women have our issues as well... difference is we trying to work on our issues...

How about instead of worrying about what TP doing, yall go check whats going on in your own home... see if you being the best man you can be to your wife, your mother, sister, your community, God the Almighty...
 
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