Why are there still homeless people while so many buildings are empty?

With most of the US under stay home orders, does government have responsibility to provide shelter?

  • Yes, the government should seek to provide universal housing at all times.

  • During a pandemic, the Defense Production Act to be used to provide for them at hotels & businesses.

  • No, they should be left to die.


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The collapse is simultaneously triggered
Now you know what it feels like to be a statistic
Poor sons of bitches ain’t allowed to make decisions
We’re middle-class midgets living off of Third World figures
They say the economy’s grown

But if you look there’s more vacant homes than homeless people living on the road

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USA Inc, doesn't give two fucks about 99% of this population!! They care about the population when they wanna activate the draft! They only care about these corporation inside the corporation!! Oh yeah, and keeping that military ready for when the queen calls!!! Anyway, the homeless, working poor are all on their own!! Sad sad sad!!
 
I think that is bullshit that the government can commandeer a hotel to house people with COVID.

If they commandeer the building, then they should have to buy it.
 
They’re “Homeless, not “Bulding-less”. They need homes, not buildings...


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In some areas homeless are without shelter. They are without a place they can come and go as they please and do any and everything they want to do.
Most shelters have curfew and have a no swing door policy so once you're in for the night you're in till morning and they can't handle that.

Not to mention do you know how long it would take to remove the stench of urine from a building if there isn't running water? You do know they DO occupy abandon buildings and they are rife with urine, feces, and other shit.
 
Yeah, make sure USA Inc keep that billion and billion dollar corporate welfare keep flow!!
That ain’t got shit to do with corporate welfare. Let’s say they did house the homeless in this empty hotel for a few months, then what? After shit goes back to normal, they’re getting kicked on the streets again, no assistance from the government. This is not a private sector issue. If the gov was paying the hotel a fee for housing them during this time I could understand, but putting homeless in a hotel to have them potentially trash, smelled up the place with no compensation for it? No, this situation is one of the few times I’d take corporate biz’s side. Might as well force private healthcare to cover that at no charge too. No, keep that blame on the government. They got the money or else we would’nt receiving a check during this time.
 
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We need government funded housing. Then put those that can to work performing manual labor. Those with drug addictions go through treatment. Fail treatment and you're out on the streets. Tough but fair.
We proudly spend $800 billion a year on defense. How much of that allocation is being spent to combat the virus?

At the end of this moment we as a country are going to have to figure out what we believe is important.
 
We actually act like this white man's world is actually concerned about humanity. Some whites may be this way but they just like us are still controlled by powerful white devils and their empire. It is similar to what we saw in Jonestown. The ones asleep still felt Jim Jones knew what was best for their lives. But also show me a real man and you have actually seen God. There is no way a grown man can tell another grown man what to do unless he controls him. The president, governors,etc. put their pants on the same way I do. The only difference is there is a system that says they are more important than I am but the question is why? Did their importance come from then selling their souls or other words is their manhood?
It is sickening to see this. This white man's world give lip service but it is ruled by weapons. We got to boss up and be as wise as serpents but as humble as doves. And take this earth back from these white devils. Then there will no longer be any homeless. Trust me the parasites live as kings or gods right now.
 
That ain’t shit to do with corporate welfare. Let’s say they did house the homeless in this empty hotel for a few months, then what? After shit goes back to normal, they’re getting kicked on the streets again, no assistance from the government. This not a private sector issue. If they gov was paying the hotel a fee for housing them during this time I could understand, but putting homeless in a hotel to have them potentially trash, smelled up the place with no compensation for it? No, this situation is on of the few times I’d take corporate biz’s side. Might as well force private health to cover that at no charge too. No keep that blame on the government. They got the money or else we would’ve receiving a check during this time.

I'm pretty sure your not a part of the money class!! In a blink of the eye, you can find yourself in that bad spot!! You wanna take the corporation side,, enuf said!!!
 
I'm pretty sure your not a part of the money class!! In a blink of the eye, you can find yourself in that bad spot!! You wanna take the corporation side,, enuf said!!!
Yeah, it can happen to anybody, but it still something the government should be covering no? I’m not incapable of compassion, but at what point does a corporation have a responsibility to take of the homeless? If you’re waiting on the private sector to do that you’ll be waiting a while.
PS, you still haven’t answer the questions of where they go once business is back to normal. Corporations on the hook for that time too?
 
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My problem with your survey it that it provides for only three completely unreasonable option with regard to sheltering homeless people.

A. The government/tax payers should take care of everyone's housing needs at all times.

B. The government should take care of anyone homeless during the pandemic by forcefully deploying the assets of privates citizens all while not knowing how long it will be necessary or having any idea of the cost to the tax payers and the private citizens who will have their assets commandeered.

C. Let all the homeless die.

Almost everyone will agree that A, and B are real options. That said, neither is C. Most homeless adults are homeless for a reason. They've made a series of poor decisions that culminated in them loosing their residences. Even without mental illness and or substance abuse other things like trying to live above their means or poor money management are real factors. Of course there are circumstances beyond their control including spousal abuse or mass layoffs but even then people have to be accountable for their ongoing choices and or make better decisions. In case it isn't clear, I believe children are a whole other story.


What's your problem with it?
 
My problem with your survey it that it provides for only three completely unreasonable option with regard to sheltering homeless people.

A. The government/tax payers should take care of everyone's housing needs at all times.

B. The government should take care of anyone homeless during the pandemic by forcefully deploying the assets of privates citizens all while not knowing how long it will be necessary or having any idea of the cost to the tax payers and the private citizens who will have their assets commandeered.

C. Let all the homeless die.

Almost everyone will agree that A, and B are real options. That said, neither is C. Most homeless adults are homeless for a reason. They've made a series of poor decisions that culminated in them loosing their residences. Even without mental illness and or substance abuse other things like trying to live above their means or poor money management are real factors. Of course there are circumstances beyond their control including spousal abuse or mass layoffs but even then people have to be accountable for their ongoing choices and or make better decisions. In case it isn't clear, I believe children are a whole other story.
I agree with most of what you said, but a big problem is that the government is undereducated people, especially the poor while creating a child support system that destroys families by removing the father from the families, also drugs is another thing destroying the youth thus creating more future homeless people. I know all of those can be technically listed as poor choices but at the same time, our government seems to encourage poor choices while not doing enough to help those who are actually trying to make their lives better.
So maybe instead of focussing on housing the homeless, we should be trying to help stabilize hard working-class families' rent and mortgages as well as intensifying and encouraging good grades by giving the hard-working kids discounts on cars, clothes and other rewards.
Basically I am for rewarding the youth for doing things that prevent homelessness rather than waste your time trying to help them after they've destroyed their lives because to me the later is putting the cart in front of the horse.
 
There was research done a few years ago, may have been by Amnesty International that said, in the United States, it is estimated that there might be as many as 6 empty houses for every 1 homeless person.

Stuff like this shows the priorities and effectiveness of the systems of wealth distribution of the "richest country" on the planet.
 
There are so many problems with american society being dominated by capitalistic ideology, and homelessness is just one of them. The efforts of the highest income earners to concentrate even greater wealth and income among fewer and fewer people is at the root of so many issues, be it this subject, access to healthcare, higher education, political representation, on and on. And of course African Americans are through countless generations of ongoing institutionalized racism the ones who most consistently suffer from a lack of upward social economic mobility. All the statistics make this very clear to me. How about you? It doesn't do any good to complain, about it because it just doesn't. All we can do is take care of ourselves, our families, loved ones, etc... and then try to influence those that will listen to us to make good choices, and take full advantage of whatever blessings come their way.
 


The collapse is simultaneously triggered
Now you know what it feels like to be a statistic
Poor sons of bitches ain’t allowed to make decisions
We’re middle-class midgets living off of Third World figures
They say the economy’s grown

But if you look there’s more vacant homes than homeless people living on the road

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The Govt. can do SOMETHING in this instance. They can bolster these hotels during this pandemic at reasonable rates if nothing else.
While they're at it, they can have them participate in the Census too.
 
We need government funded housing. Then put those that can to work performing manual labor. Those with drug addictions go through treatment. Fail treatment and you're out on the streets. Tough but fair.
That makes the most sense. Right now they do have shelters and programs, but those who end up homeless tend to need a lot more hand-holding than most people.

Folks don't want to admit it, but the U.S. has some great safety nets in place. It's just that if your really fucked up that the nets don't work too well. :smh:
 
"Why are there still homeless people while so many buildings are empty?"
Because no one including the government wants to buy those empty builings only to house people that ain't paying rent....



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The Govt. can do SOMETHING in this instance. They can bolster these hotels during this pandemic at reasonable rates if nothing else.
While they're at it, they can have them participate in the Census too.
I agree the government can help. However, I don't like the idea of the taxpayers being expected to put a roof over everyone's head that has proven keeping one isn't their priority. In light of what's going on with this pandemic it makes sense to facilitate social distancing for them, but again so many even with help don't seem to believe its that important. Perhaps, its because of mental illness and or substance abuse issues, but still. On the other hand, its only money right?
 
I agree with most of what you said, but a big problem is that the government is undereducated people, especially the poor while creating a child support system that destroys families by removing the father from the families, also drugs is another thing destroying the youth thus creating more future homeless people. I know all of those can be technically listed as poor choices but at the same time, our government seems to encourage poor choices while not doing enough to help those who are actually trying to make their lives better.
So maybe instead of focussing on housing the homeless, we should be trying to help stabilize hard working-class families' rent and mortgages as well as intensifying and encouraging good grades by giving the hard-working kids discounts on cars, clothes and other rewards.
Basically I am for rewarding the youth for doing things that prevent homelessness rather than waste your time trying to help them after they've destroyed their lives because to me the later is putting the cart in front of the horse.

Just one question.. The drugs are all by design.. You know who controls and handles the drugs???
 
Just one question.. The drugs are all by design.. You know who controls and handles the drugs???
Question, if gays were to start building gay clubs in your 'hood are you going to go? My point is if you do go you are a fag from the jump. The same thing with drugs, they can give you all the drugs and guns you want, but if you take the drugs or use the guns to shoot up your own brother then the problem is you!
The real problem is us blacks have very little self-discipline, so we eat, fuck, drink, shoot up, and take whatever makes us happy for the time being, never thinking about the long term consequences. This is why we are the leading candidates for diabetes, hypertension, teen pregnancy, HIV, herpes, and now COVIT-19, one thing all of this has in common is that they all can be reduced with discipline and diligence.
To me I blame the slave mind that trains us to look for a savior to overcome things we can overcome ourselves, and even the blacks who no longer consider themselves Christian still have this bit of code in their brains, turning to wacky conspiracy theories and other wild shit that allows them to point fingers at others and away from their actions.
 
Question, if gays were to start building gay clubs in your 'hood are you going to go? My point is if you do go you are a fag from the jump. The same thing with drugs, they can give you all the drugs and guns you want, but if you take the drugs or use the guns to shoot up your own brother then the problem is you!
The real problem is us blacks have very little self-discipline, so we eat, fuck, drink, shoot up, and take whatever makes us happy for the time being, never thinking about the long term consequences. This is why we are the leading candidates for diabetes, hypertension, teen pregnancy, HIV, herpes, and now COVIT-19, one thing all of this has in common is that they all can be reduced with discipline and diligence.
To me I blame the slave mind that trains us to look for a savior to overcome things we can overcome ourselves, and even the blacks who no longer consider themselves Christian still have this bit of code in their brains, turning to wacky conspiracy theories and other wild shit that allows them to point fingers at others and away from their actions.

Come on bruh, you don't believe those numbers right?? Don't tell me you believe USA Inc?? You know the name of the game has always been, to make the copper color people look bad and they use that lying ass television, media, entertainment sports industries to pull this off!! Reason #2 they brought those Nazi's here after ww2!! Anyway, tell me what you know about who or what controls the drug trade????
 
Come on bruh, you don't believe those numbers right?? Don't tell me you believe USA Inc?? You know the name of the game has always been, to make the copper color people look bad and they use that lying ass television, media, entertainment sports industries to pull this off!! Reason #2 they brought those Nazi's here after ww2!! Anyway, tell me what you know about who or what controls the drug trade????
I have friends in the medical fields and yes those numbers sound about right to them. So if you are going to ask who do I trust, actual nurses and doctors, a shit load of data or a guy from the internet speaking from incredulity without one shred of evidence to back his claim, who do you think I am going to roll with.
 
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