You saying his parents were working too much to teach him….
Whoopi Goldberg said Millennials who can't afford a home are lazy and only want to work 4 hours which isn't enough to afford a house!
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Might be lolYou saying his parents were working too much to teach him….
"You want a roof over your head or a history lesson?"You saying his parents were working too much to teach him….
Did you read the article? Their definition of afford means that you have income left over for other essentials, such as child care, groceries, transportation and savings. That's not even counting medical costs and emergencies.
Someone working full time making minimum wage in Seattle would have nothing left after taxes and rent.
All of that is true. That isn't the topic we are discussing though.
It seems like some people understand where whoopi was coming from with that statement and some people on this board got offended about it.
This generation isn't the same like back then when people was willing to work including overtime to feed their families and pay the bills with also buying a house but houses back then weren't expensive like they are now.
This is why strikes have been happening with workers wanting higher wages to be able to afford things that are high today.
Also, a lot of people in this generation wants to work less to make more money but that's unless they know a job that pays them a lot of money to work shorter ours or they're an entrepreneur.
This generation isn't the same like back then when people was willing to work including overtime to feed their families and pay the bills with also buying a house but houses back then weren't expensive like they are now.
This is why strikes have been happening with workers wanting higher wages to be able to afford things that are high today.
Also, a lot of people in this generation wants to work less to make more money but that's unless they know a job that pays them a lot of money to work shorter ours or they're an entrepreneur.
No he doesn't .
Look, circumstances vary. The main thing is the struggle is real. Life is struggle and hustle is the antidote to the struggle. People say that shit about they're parents like they're parents didn't have to struggle. It was mad sleepless nights and shit that lead to that. If muhfuckas is whining, I know they not hustlas. Hustlas don't have time to whine. I'm trying to raise my kids to figure shit out. Errbody wanna go to heaven, but don't nobody want to die.
So what's the alternative? Not work and get nothing? Playing video games all day while someone else works to take care of you sure ain't a solution. If a mofo wants better they plain and simply have to do better! No one says life would be easy, it's not. Muggs can't be afraid to get their damn hands dirty or be allergic to hard work either. Ya got to get off yo ass, get out there, and get at it. Just think, not a single player in any sport makes the HoF without working hard to get enshrined.
Your examples are good but are also in very expensive locations, albeit not many are making minimum wage in any of them. It would be just plain be impossible to. They're also examples of the exception but not the rule. Folks do have a choice and not living in those expensive areas is one of them. There are other options if flexible. Live outside of the city, share a place with a roommate, two roommates, go to school, get a certification so you can live where you like. Live and work where you can afford a place to stay. There is no perfect option or solution but not doing anything for sure isn't one.
What major city isn't expensive? Moving somewhere cheaper won't work for the majority of people. If millions of people relocate to cheaper locations, those places will cease to be cheaper. Those rural locations also have less jobs and less public transportation. Going to school means student loans that folks oppose being forgiven. Having a roommate also means you're SOL if they can't come up with their half of the rent.
This whole conversation got started because Whoopi said that millennials only want to work for 4 hours, which is dismissive of the fact that the same "work hard" strategies that worked 40-50 years ago don't work that way today.
It's straight up gaslighting for folks her age to tell younger people to just work hard like she did when they're dealing with this:
The solutions that people are working towards are supporting politicians that advocate for a higher minimum wage (two thirds of Americans support a $15 federal minimum wage), affordable health care (folks in Kentucky love Kentucky Kynect as long as you don't call it Obamacare) and affordable college (student loan forgiveness).
This is in addition to collectively organizing and demanding higher pay from employers. There have been countless examples of workers going on strike recently.
See the real problem is that we are wanting people who make minimum wage to be middle class. Them people was never middle-class! Every cat you see working a minimum wage job is supposed to be lower class. There I said it. It's plenty people working 2 or three of them jobs until they level up. Either through hustle, experience or education. Sometimes through all three. I know things are more expensive, but there are also more opportunities to come up. You can't do it without some imagination. You want to come up, you have to put it your time. Young muhfuckas think they know better. It's not necessary to put in all that work. When it's rime for the boss to level somebody up, the cats spending all that time complaining about boomers ain't never on that list. Ain't no substitute bussing yo ass for YOUR future.What major city isn't expensive? Moving somewhere cheaper won't work for the majority of people. If millions of people relocate to cheaper locations, those places will cease to be cheaper. Those rural locations also have less jobs and less public transportation. Going to school means student loans that folks oppose being forgiven. Having a roommate also means you're SOL if they can't come up with their half of the rent.
This whole conversation got started because Whoopi said that millennials only want to work for 4 hours, which is dismissive of the fact that the same "work hard" strategies that worked 40-50 years ago don't work that way today.
It's straight up gaslighting for folks her age to tell younger people to just work hard like she did when they're dealing with this:
The solutions that people are working towards are supporting politicians that advocate for a higher minimum wage (two thirds of Americans support a $15 federal minimum wage), affordable health care (folks in Kentucky love Kentucky Kynect as long as you don't call it Obamacare) and affordable college (student loan forgiveness).
This is in addition to collectively organizing and demanding higher pay from employers. There have been countless examples of workers going on strike recently.
Young people don't think they know better, they realize that line of "I worked a job to pay for college and bought my first house, these young people don't want to work!" is mathematically disingenuous.
The problem is that a minimum wage job USED to pay enough to level up. This is why HUD considers people to be severely rent burdened if they are spending more than 50% of their income on rent. They won't be able to save enough to pay for college (which is also getting more expensive) let alone buy a home.
The disparity between incomes and the costs of housing and education are not leveling off, they will only get worse.
Every time raising the minimum wage is on the ballot, it passes. In blue, purple, and even red states it passes.
Again, people holding down more than one job has been going on for decades. When this discussion comes up, I never hear that part. Increasing minimum wage without that hustle. The government is not going to fix your life. Quiet quitting is not going to get it either. "Young" people are so unwilling to accept less mathematical, but very valid discussions around the current circumstances.
There's a lot of old niggas telling on themselves in this thread. They've intentionally conflated several things because their arguments won't work otherwise. The whole "4 hours a day" thing is a red herring that a lot of boomers have latched onto. It's nonsensical by design. It's so irrational that many boomers hear it and think that millenials must be crazy to believe it, when the reality is that boomers are crazy to think that millenials believe it. She's playing Fox News games.
Second, boomers have ruined the market. Not the stock market, not the housing market, but all markets. Everything is financialized now. Houses aren't just a place to live anymore. Stocks aren't a long term investment that you buy because you believe in the company anymore. It's all about short term profits. My first taste of this was when they ruined comic books when I was in middle school. Everything became a collectors item and prices exploded. I was told that if I actually read them my finger oils would destroy the pages. They've even financialized food. Everything is priced as an asset, not as a consumer good. You know why houses are so cheap in Japan? It's because houses are designed and priced to last long enough to raise one generation into adulthood and through college/occupational training. It's not meant to be an infinite money glitch.
Third, as far as quiet quitting goes. Boomers have intentionally mixed up people who've given up (quiet quitters) with those who still have hope and are still doing the family/house scam. Those are two distinct groups. They complain about the quiet quitters but point at those that haven't quit. The ones still trying are the ones demanding remote work. It's the desire to afford cheap housing away from urban centers that drives people to want remote work. I like many other people have worked remotely while inside a corporate office. All of the servers I programmed were far elsewhere. It makes no damn sense to pay HCOL prices for everything when I could be living in farther out as well. Most of the managers complaining about this shit just wanna play in people's faces all day. They wanna flex on people in the office so they can feel powerful for a few moments before end of life costs bankrupt them. That's all this is. They worked in abusive offices for decades and now it's their turns to be the abuser and you can't do that in a remote office where all comms are logged.
Second, boomers have ruined the market. Not the stock market, not the housing market, but all markets. Everything is financialized now. Houses aren't just a place to live anymore. Stocks aren't a long term investment that you buy because you believe in the company anymore. It's all about short term profits. My first taste of this was when they ruined comic books when I was in middle school. Everything became a collectors item and prices exploded. I was told that if I actually read them my finger oils would destroy the pages. They've even financialized food. Everything is priced as an asset, not as a consumer good. You know why houses are so cheap in Japan? It's because houses are designed and priced to last long enough to raise one generation into adulthood and through college/occupational training. It's not meant to be an infinite money glitch.
Third, as far as quiet quitting goes. Boomers have intentionally mixed up people who've given up (quiet quitters) with those who still have hope and are still doing the family/house scam. Those are two distinct groups. They complain about the quiet quitters but point at those that haven't quit. The ones still trying are the ones demanding remote work. It's the desire to afford cheap housing away from urban centers that drives people to want remote work. I like many other people have worked remotely while inside a corporate office. All of the servers I programmed were far elsewhere. It makes no damn sense to pay HCOL prices for everything when I could be living in farther out as well. Most of the managers complaining about this shit just wanna play in people's faces all day. They wanna flex on people in the office so they can feel powerful for a few moments before end of life costs bankrupt them. That's all this is. They worked in abusive offices for decades and now it's their turns to be the abuser and you can't do that in a remote office where all comms are logged.
Because most weren't even doing 40 hours per week. The difference between the 60s and now is less than 5 hours a week.
The government spent over 6 Trillion dollars in 4 years to benefit corporations and wall street while none of that trickled down. Young people most definitely will hold the government accountable.
There was a post a while back, where some dude had been working a low end job for 40-50 years, and the employer showed their appreciation by giving him a box of items from the Dollar Store. Buddy probably never missed a day of work either.
Young people have no intention of working themselves to death for that kind of "thanks". Minimum market rate pay yields minimum market rate effort.
Most major cities have a ton of investment properties sitting empty. A high vacancy tax would clear that shit up quick.
So ur using one dudes story to justify not working hard!?! Again, you're missing the hustle. Today there is no reason to take less than your worth, but you have to have substance on your resume. There are too many on-line methods to out yourself in the marketplace that were not available in previous generations. I'm just giving you the truth. You don't want to do? Fine. Complaining about shit you can't change is not going to advance your life. Keep watching hustlas succeed or join them. Them the choices, mane.Because most weren't even doing 40 hours per week. The difference between the 60s and now is less than 5 hours a week.
The government spent over 6 Trillion dollars in 4 years to benefit corporations and wall street while none of that trickled down. Young people most definitely will hold the government accountable.
There was a post a while back, where some dude had been working a low end job for 40-50 years, and the employer showed their appreciation by giving him a box of items from the Dollar Store. Buddy probably never missed a day of work either.
Young people have no intention of working themselves to death for that kind of "thanks". Minimum market rate pay yields minimum market rate effort.
The white people made you believe in a game where they claim the harder you work the more you get paid. That's a lie and some bullshit. The SMARTER you work the more you get paid. So I have no problems saying this generations approach to work and the workplace is WAYYYYYYY smarter than the generations before them like lightyears ahead. So on the individual level their approach is the only way you fight a system meant to grind down the lowest employment rung which is always the younger workers.
Systematically we also have to wipe this thinking that there cannot be a median level of living that is satisfactory for 70-80% of the people is America. We have a system where only 20% are not living check to check. It doesn't have to be that way. The rich and the ultra-rich taking up 80% of the resources is not the way a healthy economy is supposed to work. We live in the richest country in the world but health care and education are privileges. We allow this system of faux equality to fester and we promote the Hard work mentality. Guess what John Henry was a steel driving man but he died at the end.
Systematically we also have to wipe this thinking that there cannot be a median level of living that is satisfactory for 70-80% of the people is America. We have a system where only 20% are not living check to check. It doesn't have to be that way. The rich and the ultra-rich taking up 80% of the resources is not the way a healthy economy is supposed to work. We live in the richest country in the world but health care and education are privileges. We allow this system of faux equality to fester and we promote the Hard work mentality. Guess what John Henry was a steel driving man but he died at the end.
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