White people and the history of EXHIBITING NON-WHITE PEOPLE IN ZOOS!

I need a Source (other than wikipedia) for this information. Why did she want to leave? What was african society like then unlike it is now?

Wiki??? me??? thats against our rules.

convinced of a better life by anglos... not abducted, not kidnapped, not forced... them motherfuckers displayed her, lusted for her big ass and tits, passed her around... and then she died broke and her bones displayed for more...
there was nothing wrong with her life where she was... she allowed birds to tell her otherwise, and chose to leave


Saartje (Sara) Baartman
(1789-1816)

When Saartje (Sara) Baartman left the shores of Africa, little did she know that her body parts would be returned to her home land 187 years later and that she would fuel the racist notions of black inferiority and black female sexuality in Europe. Dubbed "The Hottentot Venus," she was exhibited as a freak and, in the process, juxtaposed against white ideals of superiority and sexuality. Initially, she was paraded naked at different venues around London and due to agitation by anti-slavery advocates, was taken to Paris. Saartje's predicament embodied issues of racism, sexism and colonialism.

Born in 1789 in the Eastern Cape of present-day South Africa, Saartje was a member of the Khoisan group, the original inhabitants of southern Africa. The Khoisan, pejoratively referred to as the Hottentots, are honey-colored and steatopygic—that is, fat is stored in their buttocks. Europeans viewed the latter feature to be an abnormality and an attestation of racial inferiority.

While in her teens, Saartje migrated to an area near Cape Town, where she was a farmer's slave until she was bought in Cape Town by William Dunlop, a doctor on a British ship. At age 20, Saartje headed for London with Dr. Dunlop where, it was agreed, that they would get rich by displaying her body to Europeans, catering to Europeans' sexual fascination with aboriginal peoples.

Prancing in the nude, with her jutting posterior and extraordinary genitals, she provided the foundation for racist and pseudo-scientific theories regarding black inferiority and black female sexuality. The shows involved Saartje being "led by her keeper and exhibited like a wild beast, being obliged to walk, stand or sit as ordered." Saartje's predicament drew the attention of a young Jamaican, Robert Wedderburn, who agitated against slavery and racism. Subsequently, his group pressured the attorney general to stop this circus. Losing the case on a technicality, Saartje spent four years in London and then went to Paris where she was exhibited in a travelling circus, and seen frequently controlled by an animal trainer in the show.

It was here that she crossed paths with George Cuvier, Napoleon's surgeon-general, who was also considered to be the dean of comparative anatomy. In his capacity of social anthropologist, he arrogantly and erroneously concluded that she was the missing link. She turned to prostitution and when she died poor in 1816, almost immediately Cuvier had her body cast in wax, dissected and the skeleton articulated. Her organs, including her genitals and brains, were preserved in bottles of formaldehyde. Her remains were displayed at the Musée de L'Homme in Paris until 1974.

In post-apartheid South Africa, efforts were made to retrieve Saartje's remains. In 1994, then-President Nelson Mandela appealed to his French counterpart, but it was not until 2002 that the French Senate approved a bill for repatriation of Saartje's remains to South Africa. In May 2002, her remains were brought home to South Africa after nearly 200 years of humiliation and abuse. In August 2002, she was finally laid to rest in the Eastern Cape.

<hr size="1"> Books

Africans on Stage: Studies in Ethnological Show Business, Bernth Lindfors, Indiana University Press, 1998.


Black Personalities in the Era of the Slave Trade, Paul Edwards and James Walvin, Louisana State University Press, 1983.

Sara Baartman and the Hottentot Venus: A Ghost Story and a Biography, Clifton Crais and Pamela Scully, Princeton University Press, 2008.

The Venus Hottentot, Elizabeth Alexander, University Press of Virginia, 1990.


Women and Art in South Africa, Marion Arnold, St. Martin's Press, 1996.
 
convinced of a better life by anglos... The word "convinced" needs to be explained. Why? because while convincing someone you could also be deceiving them at the same time. The white people that practice racism/white supremacy are very good with deception, thus this has little or nothing to do with what "african" society could provide. Other than that, if you deceive someone this is equvalent to forcing them...
 
The reason we've been brutilized the worst is because we've put up the least resistance. In fact, most blacks chose to sell out and betray their own, just like they still do today. Whites have been at war with every living being ever since they gained consciousness, their genes are ressesive and so are their spirits.

They dont have much time left and they know it, the world is getting browner and blacker by the second, thats why theyre doing everything divide and destroy this world and every living thing in some form or another. Everything they claim to have has been stolen, religion, sophistication, higher knowledge, mathematics, art, literature none of it was ever theirs, it was taught to them or it was stolen, many of the things they are now discovering has been known without modern science by ancient africans for centuries, even dating further back before whites made their presense known.

Thry call us the minority but we are the majority, if we loved each other half as much as they hate us we'd be unstoppable.
 
convinced of a better life by anglos... The word "convinced" needs to be explained. Why? because while convincing someone you could also be deceiving them at the same time. The white people that practice racism/white supremacy are very good with deception, thus this has little or nothing to do with what "african" society could provide. Other than that, if you deceive someone this is equvalent to forcing them...

Which is true... But you also must account for self delusion as well... Because all they gave was a sales pitch, an opportunity or fishing hook.. But you must the bait, you must have faith in their words, and you have to deny those which told you true. We still must remain accountable for our actions as much as theirs for accuracy, you have to accept the lie more than the truth you know

That's not the same type of force, its a word game which plays on what is there. I tried to find a source which said otherwise... Of them forcing her against will... But there is not bro.
 
@ Deacs... Quoting from the book (Africans on Stage: Studies in Ethnological Show Business, Bernth Lindfors, Indiana University Press, 1998.)



First off, Saartje (Sara) Baartman was owned by the brother of Peter Caesar. Peter Caesar brought her, at a young age, to the Cape. Peter Caesar gave (the book says, "was taken into the service of") her to Henrick Casar. Henrick Casar took her to England after an agreement that was not clear to her.

"To the various questions we put to her whether if she chose at any time to discountinue her person being exhibited, she might do so, we could not draw a satisfactory answer from her-She understands very little of the Agreement made with her by Mr. Dunlop on the twenty ninth October 1810 [...]." (Moojen et al., qtd. Strother 1999: 41)

Thus, me stating that the racist/white supremacists are very deceptive. They will say one thing then do the other...

BTW, when reading all these experiences that non-white people under went during this period, it is very important to be very critical. That means, try to read around what the white people have written in regard to what happened. For the most part, they will try to down play the whole experince and they will write, "he came with her own consent with Peter Caesar and was taken into the service of Henrick Casar [sic] as his nursery maid; she came by her own consent to England and was promised half of the money for exhibiting her person [...]." (ibid.:41)

So, try to read around what they write. This is important especially if you are classified as black and/or non-white.
 
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Thank you for that clarification
A transfer of... I never took that to being a transfer of ownership... But what you said is acceptable. My bad... That's fucked.. They said she made contract but... Fuck :smh:

It was an illusion of a choice... You are right
 
Thank you for that clarification
A transfer of... I never took that to being a transfer of ownership... But what you said is acceptable. My bad... That's fucked.. They said she made contract but... Fuck :smh:

It was an illusion of a choice... You are right

No Sir, thank you for having me pick up that book again. I read it a while ago and i had forgotten some things.

Thanks for your exchange of views and thanks for responding to the thread. And like i said, most of the written accounts are very old and for the most part they were written by white folks. Based on that it is important to read around the information. In other words be very critical. They brought fire water to the "native indians" (Thanks giving) and they also participated in the drinking of that fire water, but look at where the "native indians" are now...:smh:

NB: Lets continue and never stop learning!
 
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Interesting that this exhibition should be taking place in Paris. You might know of the case of Saartje Baartman, the “Hottentot Venus” brought from South Africa to London to be exhibited naked before crowds in order to show off her large genitalia and buttocks. She was sold to a Frencman who out her in a freakshow. When she died her skeleton, brian and pickled genitalia went on exhibtion and remained in public view in Paris until 1985. It was only after repeated effort, and the personal intervention of Nelson Mandela that the French authorities agreed to return her body to Africa in 2002 for burial. But she is not an exception. a large number of European capital cities had Africans on display and some of them still have the bodies of these “freaks”, though no longer on display. - Paul Doolan (2012)
 

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