What's the best fighting technique to learn for self defense?

aikido mixed with some good ole american street fighting....like colt 45 it works evertime!
 
IMHO, it depends on you. I practice and teach authentic Wing Chun. I have been involved with the art for over 30 years. Wing Chun is a style that was designed to master the physical aspect of it in 3 to 5 years. However, the mental aspect takes a lifetime. I find it to be the best around. But that is my preference.

No matter what style you chose, you have to have the heart to use it. Makes no sense to give someone a gun and yet they are afraid to pull the trigger. I suggest you do some research and find a style that complements your body type and personality.
 
It depends on the person.

Self defense is about awareness and catching your opponent when they don't expect to be struck and about using any weapon available.

It isn't about UFC, Boxing or any of the american/chinese martial arts cinema.

If you find yourself fighting a 'fair' fight you fucked up OR you should be in octagon or ring getting paid.

Self defense is combat, their are no fair ones.

Here endeth the thread:hmm:
 
In class they stop when you get the hold, as if that's the end. In the real world, you have to break his arm the instant he does not comply. And, then be ready to continue aggressively fighting against a pissed off man with a broken arm.

In the real world, when one fighter is pissed off because his arm is broken, thats the end too. :lol:

I'm not too worried about a guy who is aggressive with a freshly broken arm.
 
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Not true. Ju Jitsu refers to Japanse self defense moves like wrist locks and headlock defenses. You don't see any of that in MMA. Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, on the other hand is a grappling art and you see a lot of it in MMA.

My point was on the THOUSANDS of fights available on You Tube you never see one where a guy pulls off a complicated wrist lock during a fight. That leads me to believe it just doesn't work in a real situation.
you wont see a wrist lock in a street fight because most times people are concentrating on strikes to the head
youd only see some aikido classroom shit if one guy was toying with the other
no one who perceives a real threat in an opponent is going to concentrate on a wrist while preparing to avoid head strikes or someone attempting to lay hands on them
just my opinion on why it doesnt transfer well unless youre a cop or bouncer


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boxing/muay thai/bjj or any sport that teaches powerful simple striking along with a form of wrestling/grappling
karate and tae kwon do are good for learning striking and balance
nippon kempo is pretty tight as a striking and grappling art - some kempo styles are trash though

balance, some cardio, basic striking and basic grappling offense and defense will make you a bad muthafucka
if you have to choose one - basic striking - 99% of all fights end with simple punches to the head
 
I agree 100%, As I mentioned earlier, I hate when guys act like a BJJ guy can't eye gouge them. They act like THEY can eye gouge the BJJ guy, but for some reason he can't get a strong position and then apply the same technique to them.

truth is - a muthafucka tries to grapple with you in the street you better be going for his eyes, biting, everything goes

bjj aint no joke- only time it dont matter is if there is too much size disparity and the nonbjj fighter is too big and or strong
 
Been thinking of learning something on the side of my gym classes
I have a 2nd degree Black and I Thai fight..The best style I recommend for street fighting is...A Glock 22 (40 cal) on the hip and a Glock 23 (40 cal) in the leg srtap... after two taps to the head or chest...claim " self defense" (he wont be able to deny your story) and move on! Yep, for the street its the best style ever! :yes::yes:
 
Aikido, i've been practising myself for 3 years right now i feel quite confident to walk out anywhere even though i get my ass beaten regularly at my dojo loool
 
Self devence- Krav Maga- Israeli Defensive Tactics
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Krav Maga: Basic Combatives
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This is an into to the basic combatives of KM. It shows all the basic strikes (punches,elbows,knees,kicks), and the basic blocks.
The instructions are clear and easy to follow. If you cannot get to any KM classes this is a very good way to start. You will need a partner to practice
with. Nice bonus on the DVD is a few examples of focus mitt drills to get you going. Good product, I give it 4 stars becuase I think they could have thrown
in a few reality based drills.


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Krav Maga: Line of Fire--Defending Against Handgun Threats
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Krav Maga: On the Edge--Knife Defense
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Krav Maga: The Best Defense
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This DVD presents several techniques for defending agains unarmed attack. The punch defences are covered in Basic combatives film, and in this film they

present defences against several different chokes, headlocks and bearhugs. The DVD includes two bonus techniques that are not presented in the VHS version.

The film opens with almost 15 minute long discussion about the basic principles of Krav maga system (system that relies on instinctive responses to an attack, the demand for realistic training and so on).
As with the previous film (basic combatives), the instruction is generally good. Each technique starts with a dramatized scene, then they show the technique
at full speed, then at slow motion (again, they have not slowed the film down, rather the people instructing the techniques are moving slowly). After that,
they break the technique down to learning stages to make it easier to learn the technique. When needed, the defender performs the technique as "shadow
boxing", without the attacker (so that the attacker's body would not block the view).


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Bas Rutten's "Lethal Street Fighting" Self Defense System
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In this dynamic DVD World “Ultimate Fighting Champion” and 3Xs “King Of Pancrase”, Bas Rutten personally teaches you his “Lethal Street Fighting” Self Defense System designed to immediately give you the skills and combat techniques needed to win any street fight! Winner of over 200 deadly street fights and numerous No-Holds-Barred Titles Rutten knows what he is talking about when it comes to reality combat. All techniques taught in this exciting DVD have been battle tested by Rutten in the ring and on the street so you know they will work. Start learning the World’s most effective Street Fighting Self Defense System by ordering Bas Rutten’s, “Lethal Street Fighting” training DVD Today! Over 1 Hour 45 Min of non-stop action! What you learn today may save your life tomorrow. Note: Contains extreme fighting violence-must be 18 years old to view this show.
Proper Street fighting posture and positions to take when encountering the enemy to give you the advantage when the fight begins.

Strikes including the straight right punch, uppercut, the deadly palm heel strike, elbow strikes, nasty eye gouges and nose breaking head butts.
Kicks including front kicks to the groin and solar plexus, knee smashes to the face and body, stomping kicks for when your opponent is down, roundhouse kicks to the head and body plus deadly low kicks to the legs.
Over 75 non-stop Lethal Self Defense techniques covering every street fighting situation you may encounter including techniques against one and two man attacks, defensive techniques against deadly knife and gun attacks, defending against attempted take downs, ground fighting self-defense, and much more!
How to use everyday instruments as deadly weapons against your attacker such as beer bottles and chairs, street fighting strategy, and much, much more!

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As a kid, I trained in regular ole Karate. Mix Karate with a black mans natural street fighting ability and youre pretty tough.

I used to get the hell beat out of me in Karate class tho. I wont lie to you brothers.

But the average man, like my friends, I would air their ass out.

So basically train in anything you like.

I wished I never stopped but I began playing football and I didnt want to risk injury.

peace
 
I used to get the hell beat out of me in Karate class tho. I wont lie to you brothers.

But the average man, like my friends, I would air their ass out.

So basically train in anything you like.
This is the truth. If you are skilled in any art, you will most likely win a fight against an unskilled tough guy. But this thread is about which is the best, or which one we think is the best. Alot of cats are shitting on BJJ and things like wrist locks.
 
Not true. Ju Jitsu refers to Japanse self defense moves like wrist locks and headlock defenses. You don't see any of that in MMA. Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, on the other hand is a grappling art and you see a lot of it in MMA.

My point was on the THOUSANDS of fights available on You Tube you never see one where a guy pulls off a complicated wrist lock during a fight. That leads me to believe it just doesn't work in a real situation.

Not true, look up Ju-Jitsu, its an art with lots of variation and its not only locks and headlock defenses. That shit is brutal, it was what samurai's were taught to use when they lost their swords.

You don't see wrist locks because they are not efficient in a competition. In real life, it is pretty easy to control a person with a wrist lock, and it is easy to break someone's wrist. In real life, if one of them dudes grabs you're wrist, they don't have to apply and hold and wait for you to tap out, they are going to break your wrist. You have to understand, once your wrist, a few fingers, or pretty much anything on your body is broken, you have lost the fight because you have a diminisihed ability to harm your opponent or defend yourself.
 
Thats for bitches

It depends on the person.

Self defense is about awareness and catching your opponent when they don't expect to be struck and about using any weapon available.

It isn't about UFC, Boxing or any of the american/chinese martial arts cinema.

If you find yourself fighting a 'fair' fight you fucked up OR you should be in octagon or ring getting paid.

Self defense is combat, their are no fair ones.

Exactly, these niggaz thinks fights are "fair". Please, broken glass, knifes, guns, pool-sticks and everything else come into play, and most fights I've ever seen has been ended when the one dude's homie's come outside and see their boy getting his ass whooped and then proceed to all beat the shit out of whoever the other guy is.

This aint a movie. That's why my older brother's got his piece and goes to the range regularly and I'm gonna probably get mine at some point.

dumbest shit ive read today

in a street fight, their arm is broke, or their choked to death

the refs saves niggas from injury or death

Once again, if it's one on one and there's no weapons, then I agree with you, but very few street fights are "fair". To me, to the perfect technique is to get your hits in and get the fuck outta dodge before dudes homies see you and jump ya ass. If the homies come, have the Baretta waitin' on em.

son... you gotta get the person in that position first. what if you cant get that lock or choke? what if you can't get in close enough to grapple? it's a street fight.yo i swear some you cats lack common fukkin sense. not everyone you face in the street is a fukkin punk or gang banger wanna be. there are some dudes that are a fukkin problem. real fukkin talk i don't give a fuk if you're royce gracie.. you aint gettin me in a position like that. it's a street fight there are all sorts of variables involved. there are no rules. life and death. i wish a nigga would try and choke me out. son would be leakin period.

I know. I keep a knife on me everywhere I go. Everywhere. Both of my wrists had better be broke or somebody's gettin' cut. Str8 up.

I have a 2nd degree Black and I Thai fight..The best style I recommend for street fighting is...A Glock 22 (40 cal) on the hip and a Glock 23 (40 cal) in the leg srtap... after two taps to the head or chest...claim " self defense" (he wont be able to deny your story) and move on! Yep, for the street its the best style ever! :yes::yes:

See, this man gets it. My nephew's a Black-Belt in Karate(dont know what degree) and has been takin' it his entire life practically, but I always tell him to not go around trying to fight niggaz, because that shit means nothing to these cowards who jump, stab, and shoot motherfuckers.
 
Ive been training Brazilian Juijitsu for years.I've trained with numerous fighters who have fought in the UFC.IMO the best for self defense are:
1-Brazilian Juijitsu
2-Muay Thai
3-Boxing
4-Wrestling
IMO these work because you are consistently sparing against resisting/non-compliant opponents.other arts like krav manga and kung fu dont.And they dont work either.


+1 Krav Manga sounds good, but does work well at all. i have been studying BJJ for about 4 years, and muay thai for about 5 years among other styles that i didnt like (praying mantis kung fu, shootfighting, kenpo karate) i also trained in Jeet Kun Doo for a little while and i would say that its a pretty complete system as well. i wish i would stayed with it.

didnt believe this dude was that fast either, until he came and did a seminar and i got to meet him. holy shit, dude hit me like 12 times after i threw a jab... :smh:

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I love Boxing, But I would honestly have to go with Muay Thai, or JKD as far as basic self defense goes.

Muay Thai - of leg kicks, the high guard for great defense (except the midsection), and clinching (but I wouldn't clinch unless I know basic wrestling too).


+1 Krav Manga sounds good, but does work well at all. i have been studying BJJ for about 4 years, and muay thai for about 5 years among other styles that i didnt like (praying mantis kung fu, shootfighting, kenpo karate) i also trained in Jeet Kun Doo for a little while and i would say that its a pretty complete system as well. i wish i would stayed with it.

didnt believe this dude was that fast either, until he came and did a seminar and i got to meet him. holy shit, dude hit me like 12 times after i threw a jab... :smh:

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2jzmk3, I thought that vid was JKD. I was watching it and it looked familiar even before I read your post. That cat is FAST!

JKD is specifically made for street self-defense. I believe it works too, I always wanted to take it. JKD teaches you how to just end that shit and be swift about it, only low kicks, straight punches, and aiming for weak points with speed and moderate power. Not to many of the "proffessional" MMA fighters use it, but there is this one big white guy who has a JKD background and is undefeated.

Boxing - you have to be really skilled in footwork in order to use it in a streetfight, still very effective though (if you have quick hands or a KO type punching power).

BJJ - good if you're gonna fight a cat one-on-one, but you better know how to A.) Wrestle (got to get them down), or B.) Strike and knock them down. BJJ doesn't work if you're the one going down first. If I'm fighting a cat and he goes straight to his back, I'm slamming a chair or some shit on top of his ass.
 
I have been practicing martial arts on and off for about 12 years. One of the best and most versatile disciplines that I have studied (and continue to study) is Wing Chun Kung Fu. A number of other martial arts such as Krav Maga, and Jeet Kune Do take elements of Wing Chun and apply them. However, the full system is extremely useful applicable in street situations. It is designed to end fights quick and with as little effort as possible. Part of my training in Wing Chun includes "small circle" joint locking. The point of any joint lock is to cause pain and to control your opponent. Therefore, when I train in locks, we always try to apply as much pressure without actually breaking the joint or limb. Whenever a limb is locked, control and pain can be exerted. However, the moment that limb is broken, shock and adrenaline sets in and the opponent stops feeling anything in the joint. Then you have lost control and the ability to cause pain to the opponent with that lock.
 
.other arts like krav manga and kung fu dont.And they dont work either.

+1 Krav Manga sounds good, but does work well at all.

You two martial arts experts can't even spell krav maga:rolleyes:.

There is no "best" system but Krav Maga is definitely effective. It's not a sport. It's a fight system specifically designed to be simple and extremely aggressive against one or more attackers.

Krav, boxing, muy thai, bjj, greco roman wrestling are all good...
 

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truth is - a muthafucka tries to grapple with you in the street you better be going for his eyes, biting, everything goes

bjj aint no joke- only time it dont matter is if there is too much size disparity and the nonbjj fighter is too big and or strong

Technique can overcome size though.

People are talking about we don't know it's fair. WE KNOW IT'S UNFAIR. A gun is ultimately the best self-defense.

BJJ is the best. How do I not get the choke? I will choke a nigga out with his own shirt.
 
And another thing I want to mention about JKD...

That guy in the Vid is fast, but I believe Bruce was just as fast if not faster. Alot of the shit people saw on video, or in the movies, were all done basically in slow motion. Dude slowed shit down significantly and exaggerated alot of his moves, doing shit he said he'd never do in a real fight (the wide punches, high kicks, etc.)

I also liked it because he incoporated alot of different fighting sports (Fencing, Boxing, Wrestling, etc) in the art itself, but kept alot of the basic wing chun elements to it. Plus, there was no rules to hit. Punching between the legs, biting, eye gouging, etc., were all acceptable ways to fight in JKD. Bruce said if he was put in a wrestling hold/choke that he could not get out of, he would bite. I was even taught to pinch the lil meat between the thigh and the nuts in order to release some of the holds you could get put in.


And to disagree with the poster above me, BJJ is not the best in a streetfight in my opinion. I wouldn't want to fight a BJJ practitioner on the ground without the experience, but BJJ in a streetfight would just be some good shit to know. You either trying to take a nigga out in a streetfight, or do enough damage to some cats and bounce. Nobody is trying to roll around on the ground for 5 minutes in a real, self-defense type situation. 95% of fights end up on the ground because mothafuckas get PUT there either by a punch, kick, slam, or whatever. If that happens, then yea its good to choke out if you in one/one, but if there's about 4 other cats around you, you need to get the fuck up or its lights out.

Best to defend whatever way they trying to take you out whether punch/kick/slam and get the hell out of there. BJJ is a great finisher if you're only fighting one man, and like the guy pointed out above, if the other guy is too strong or fast then there's a good possibility your technique won't work. I've wresteld guys with better wrestling technique than me, but I took them out mainly because I was fast and strong enough to do so.

But knowing something is better than not knowing anything
 
Ive been training Brazilian Juijitsu for years.I've trained with numerous fighters who have fought in the UFC.IMO the best for self defense are:
1-Brazilian Juijitsu
2-Muay Thai
3-Boxing
4-Wrestling
IMO these work because you are consistently sparing against resisting/non-compliant opponents.other arts like krav manga and kung fu dont.And they dont work either.

Co sign! Ive been training Brazilian Jiu Jitsu for 8 years, and the number one reason why i feel its the best self defense for the average person, is because you spend 70%-80% of your training sparring against a resisting opponent. And also, all of the techniques use leverage, not power in order to dominate your opponent. So a smaller guy will be able to learn how to effectively defend himself against a larger opponent.
 
The best technique in a street fight is avoiding putting yourself in a situation to fight in the first place. That's the first lesson all martial arts teach you. And if cannot avoid the fight or run away plan on dying cause that could be a likely outcome. Action movies and as of late ufc been getting niggas put in hospitals and graves for years. There are some bad bad people in this world capable of doing sub super human shit and you may not be one of them.

Sidenote: there is a reason they have weight classes in boxing and ufc. Because size matters and might makes right in most situations.

OP good luck.

*throws down two cents, goes back to lurking*
 
And to disagree with the poster above me, BJJ is not the best in a streetfight in my opinion. I wouldn't want to fight a BJJ practitioner on the ground without the experience, but BJJ in a streetfight would just be some good shit to know. You either trying to take a nigga out in a streetfight, or do enough damage to some cats and bounce. Nobody is trying to roll around on the ground for 5 minutes in a real, self-defense type situation. 95% of fights end up on the ground because mothafuckas get PUT there either by a punch, kick, slam, or whatever. If that happens, then yea its good to choke out if you in one/one, but if there's about 4 other cats around you, you need to get the fuck up or its lights out.

Let me stop you right there. You need to assume that the each fighter has basic fighting skills meaning that they know how to throw punches, that they can duck and dodge punches. Second, why is everybody talking about 5 other niggas? The original post didn't mention any of that. Third, 5 minutes? Son, after your 3 months in BJJ you will know how to choke a man out in 30 seconds? An untrained man on the floor? Against a BJJ Blue belt with no rules? Will get choked out by his own shirt. A semi-experienced BJJ player is like quicksand, the more you struggle, the deeper it gets.

Best to defend whatever way they trying to take you out whether punch/kick/slam and get the hell out of there. BJJ is a great finisher if you're only fighting one man, and like the guy pointed out above, if the other guy is too strong or fast then there's a good possibility your technique won't work. I've wresteld guys with better wrestling technique than me, but I took them out mainly because I was fast and strong enough to do so.

But knowing something is better than not knowing anything

I think Royce Gracie (at UFC 1-3) proved that size can't overcome good BJJ technique. Those early UFC's were the best indicator of one on one streetfights with only two rules (no fishhooking, no eye gouging) and Royce was (at 180 lbs) killing world class karate, boxing, wrestling, street fighting, Jeet Kun Do, Muay Thai, Ken Po fighters. A nigga in a street fight isn't going to be world trained. Of course, we're not going to be an 8th degree black belt either, but you get the point.

The reason I say BJJ over all is it can be used offensively and defensively. Say you get hit with a punch and got down, and the guy goes on top of you. Shit, that's where BJJ shines. But everybody is going to big up their discipline as the best. And then again, my hands were nice before BJJ, so I'm prolly biased to.

Sidenote: there is a reason they have weight classes in boxing and ufc. Because size matters and might makes right in most situations.

OP good luck.

*throws down two cents, goes back to lurking*

The reason that they have weight classes in the UFC and I assume boxing is that everyone is supposed to be of equal skill ideally. In a street fight, a 270 lb basic nigga wouldn't has the same skill set as a 185 lb BJJ Purple belt.
 
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