U 36 In a Karatae Class?
What's wrong with that? learning self defense at any age shouldn't be a negative for anyone.
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U 36 In a Karatae Class?
It depends on the person.
Self defense is about awareness and catching your opponent when they don't expect to be struck and about using any weapon available.
It isn't about UFC, Boxing or any of the american/chinese martial arts cinema.
If you find yourself fighting a 'fair' fight you fucked up OR you should be in octagon or ring getting paid.
Self defense is combat, their are no fair ones.

In class they stop when you get the hold, as if that's the end. In the real world, you have to break his arm the instant he does not comply. And, then be ready to continue aggressively fighting against a pissed off man with a broken arm.

you wont see a wrist lock in a street fight because most times people are concentrating on strikes to the headNot true. Ju Jitsu refers to Japanse self defense moves like wrist locks and headlock defenses. You don't see any of that in MMA. Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, on the other hand is a grappling art and you see a lot of it in MMA.
My point was on the THOUSANDS of fights available on You Tube you never see one where a guy pulls off a complicated wrist lock during a fight. That leads me to believe it just doesn't work in a real situation.
I agree 100%, As I mentioned earlier, I hate when guys act like a BJJ guy can't eye gouge them. They act like THEY can eye gouge the BJJ guy, but for some reason he can't get a strong position and then apply the same technique to them.
I have a 2nd degree Black and I Thai fight..The best style I recommend for street fighting is...A Glock 22 (40 cal) on the hip and a Glock 23 (40 cal) in the leg srtap... after two taps to the head or chest...claim " self defense" (he wont be able to deny your story) and move on! Yep, for the street its the best style ever!Been thinking of learning something on the side of my gym classes


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Tae Kwon Glock
Yep, perfect for when one of those bitches step to you.Thats for bitches

This is the truth. If you are skilled in any art, you will most likely win a fight against an unskilled tough guy. But this thread is about which is the best, or which one we think is the best. Alot of cats are shitting on BJJ and things like wrist locks.I used to get the hell beat out of me in Karate class tho. I wont lie to you brothers.
But the average man, like my friends, I would air their ass out.
So basically train in anything you like.
Not true. Ju Jitsu refers to Japanse self defense moves like wrist locks and headlock defenses. You don't see any of that in MMA. Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, on the other hand is a grappling art and you see a lot of it in MMA.
My point was on the THOUSANDS of fights available on You Tube you never see one where a guy pulls off a complicated wrist lock during a fight. That leads me to believe it just doesn't work in a real situation.
Been thinking of learning something on the side of my gym classes
Thats for bitches
It depends on the person.
Self defense is about awareness and catching your opponent when they don't expect to be struck and about using any weapon available.
It isn't about UFC, Boxing or any of the american/chinese martial arts cinema.
If you find yourself fighting a 'fair' fight you fucked up OR you should be in octagon or ring getting paid.
Self defense is combat, their are no fair ones.
dumbest shit ive read today
in a street fight, their arm is broke, or their choked to death
the refs saves niggas from injury or death
son... you gotta get the person in that position first. what if you cant get that lock or choke? what if you can't get in close enough to grapple? it's a street fight.yo i swear some you cats lack common fukkin sense. not everyone you face in the street is a fukkin punk or gang banger wanna be. there are some dudes that are a fukkin problem. real fukkin talk i don't give a fuk if you're royce gracie.. you aint gettin me in a position like that. it's a street fight there are all sorts of variables involved. there are no rules. life and death. i wish a nigga would try and choke me out. son would be leakin period.
I have a 2nd degree Black and I Thai fight..The best style I recommend for street fighting is...A Glock 22 (40 cal) on the hip and a Glock 23 (40 cal) in the leg srtap... after two taps to the head or chest...claim " self defense" (he wont be able to deny your story) and move on! Yep, for the street its the best style ever!![]()
Ive been training Brazilian Juijitsu for years.I've trained with numerous fighters who have fought in the UFC.IMO the best for self defense are:
1-Brazilian Juijitsu
2-Muay Thai
3-Boxing
4-Wrestling
IMO these work because you are consistently sparing against resisting/non-compliant opponents.other arts like krav manga and kung fu dont.And they dont work either.
+1 Krav Manga sounds good, but does work well at all. i have been studying BJJ for about 4 years, and muay thai for about 5 years among other styles that i didnt like (praying mantis kung fu, shootfighting, kenpo karate) i also trained in Jeet Kun Doo for a little while and i would say that its a pretty complete system as well. i wish i would stayed with it.
didnt believe this dude was that fast either, until he came and did a seminar and i got to meet him. holy shit, dude hit me like 12 times after i threw a jab...![]()
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.other arts like krav manga and kung fu dont.And they dont work either.
+1 Krav Manga sounds good, but does work well at all.
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truth is - a muthafucka tries to grapple with you in the street you better be going for his eyes, biting, everything goes
bjj aint no joke- only time it dont matter is if there is too much size disparity and the nonbjj fighter is too big and or strong
Ive been training Brazilian Juijitsu for years.I've trained with numerous fighters who have fought in the UFC.IMO the best for self defense are:
1-Brazilian Juijitsu
2-Muay Thai
3-Boxing
4-Wrestling
IMO these work because you are consistently sparing against resisting/non-compliant opponents.other arts like krav manga and kung fu dont.And they dont work either.
wrestling or ultimate fighting are best, all fights turn into wwrestling matches and a wrestler will defeat any other form of fighting in a real fight;
And to disagree with the poster above me, BJJ is not the best in a streetfight in my opinion. I wouldn't want to fight a BJJ practitioner on the ground without the experience, but BJJ in a streetfight would just be some good shit to know. You either trying to take a nigga out in a streetfight, or do enough damage to some cats and bounce. Nobody is trying to roll around on the ground for 5 minutes in a real, self-defense type situation. 95% of fights end up on the ground because mothafuckas get PUT there either by a punch, kick, slam, or whatever. If that happens, then yea its good to choke out if you in one/one, but if there's about 4 other cats around you, you need to get the fuck up or its lights out.
Best to defend whatever way they trying to take you out whether punch/kick/slam and get the hell out of there. BJJ is a great finisher if you're only fighting one man, and like the guy pointed out above, if the other guy is too strong or fast then there's a good possibility your technique won't work. I've wresteld guys with better wrestling technique than me, but I took them out mainly because I was fast and strong enough to do so.
But knowing something is better than not knowing anything
Sidenote: there is a reason they have weight classes in boxing and ufc. Because size matters and might makes right in most situations.
OP good luck.
*throws down two cents, goes back to lurking*