What Is The 4th Dimension?

[OnSlaught]

The great debates and discussions which were much frequent on this board awhile back have tapered off a little. I was just thinking about this thread earlier today and had to give it a bump.


What field of science are you currently invested in fam?

The program I'm in is molecular, cell and developmental biology. The reason it's displayed like that is because different professors have specialized work in their respective fields but most certainly do crossover collaboration research with other professors.

 

[smokedacane]

The program I'm in is molecular, cell and developmental biology.

I never would have guessed that from all the discussions we have been apart of.


I would of initially pegged you as someone entrenched in the applied sciences.

 

[Olosi]

Interesting post, with interesting points of view, but many of you are acting as though these human theories are correct instead of phrasing them as "working subjective reality theories". Your labels of how things are are based upon a 3 dimensional point of view. Do you really think a sentient "piece of paper" can describe the world you live in?

I have studied physics with a stress on quantum mechanics and I have also studied real magick. From my perspective, nothing is what it appears to be. The universe is quite frightening.

 

[cozmic33]

I'm on it




Damn good analysis and observation here. Have you ever actively tried to initiate an outer body experience?

When I was younger I would try to like around 13,14 but didn't see the point after a while... The OBE I did have was a really short-lived experience... Not much to brag about.. After my OBE phase I got into Yoga Nidra (Conscious Deep Sleep) for a bit but that was short lived as well.. There is transition phase you have to go through to go into Yoga Nidra called the "little death" which I would liken to the feeling of falling off of a cliff except your in your bed experiencing your body transition from Wakefulness to sleep... Me being young and not doing anything to prepare my mind for that fucked me up so I went searching for other practices... In the meantime while searching I took the time to brush up on my knowledge of various paths such as Sufism, Gnosticism, Taoism, Hinduism, Buddhism and various Yogas until I found Chi Kung... I then came in contact with a teacher, was taught the practices and things kicked off from there.. Building up my Energy body I didn't have to go outside my body, I could do everything I wanted to wide awake right here at the Computer if I wanted to... If I wanted to send Healing energy out to someone all I had to do was imagine myself sending it and feel the Energy flow through my body to whoever I was sending to.. In my opinion, this process is way better then OBE... Chi Kung raises your Energy level and by doing that, it opens you to the realm that you try to reach while trying to go Out of Body, right here in the Physical.... It makes OBE easier as well if that's your type of thing but OBE isn't needed much honestly... Once your chakras are opened the most you have to do is visualize to get things happening

 

[smokedacane]

When I was younger I would try to like around 13,14 but didn't see the point after a while... The OBE I did have was a really short-lived experience... Not much to brag about.. After my OBE phase I got into Yoga Nidra (Conscious Deep Sleep) for a bit but that was short lived as well.. There is transition phase you have to go through to go into Yoga Nidra called the "little death" which I would liken to the feeling of falling off of a cliff except your in your bed experiencing your body transition from Wakefulness to sleep... Me being young and not doing anything to prepare my mind for that fucked me up so I went searching for other practices... In the meantime while searching I took the time to brush up on my knowledge of various paths such as Sufism, Gnosticism, Taoism, Hinduism, Buddhism and various Yogas until I found Chi Kung... I then came in contact with a teacher, was taught the practices and things kicked off from there.. Building up my Energy body I didn't have to go outside my body, I could do everything I wanted to wide awake right here at the Computer if I wanted to... If I wanted to send Healing energy out to someone all I had to do was imagine myself sending it and feel the Energy flow through my body to whoever I was sending to.. In my opinion, this process is way better then OBE... Chi Kung raises your Energy level and by doing that, it opens you to the realm that you try to reach while trying to go Out of Body, right here in the Physical....

Informative, I need to read up on Chi Kung. Would you happen to have any ebook links? If you don't I'm pretty sure I can find some in due time.


OBE fascinate me because of the boundless nature of the act itself. I have read up on it and learned about the non physical realms of reality and lifeforms you can interact with during an OBE experience.

 

[mailboxpimp]

5th & 6th...... time travel..................this some star gate shit! watched that justice league cartoon & thats all they talked about....... bump wit weed!

 

[smokedacane]

Interesting post, with interesting points of view, but many of you are acting as though these human theories are correct instead of phrasing them as "working subjective reality theories". Your labels of how things are are based upon a 3 dimensional point of view. Do you really think a sentient "piece of paper" can describe the world you live in?

I have studied physics with a stress on quantum mechanics and I have also studied real magick. From my perspective, nothing is what it appears to be. The universe is quite frightening.

You have a valid point, we can only imagine the "what if" through a 3 dimensional perspective even though we apply theories to offset that inevitability.

The universe is only frightening because we are still incapable of understanding it.

 

[cozmic33]

Informative, I need to read up on Chi Kung. Would you happen to have any ebook links? If you don't I'm pretty sure I can find some in due time.


OBE fascinate me because of the boundless nature of the act itself. I have read up on it and learned about the non physical realms of reality and lifeforms you can interact with during an OBE experience.

I know I said that I think Chi Kung is better but OBE is great as well... It's honestly what you do with it... There are many, many things out there you can make contact & interact with but instead of trying to make contact most would rather denounce something then actually experience for themselves.. Once you start Meditating there are a lot of things you will begin to see that will surprise you.. That is why I like what your doing by starting out with Mindfulness practices first because you won't end up getting freaked out by your experiences like I did

Sending you anebook right now bro

 

[Gods_Debris]

okay so... maybe we exist in the 4th dimension and we are seeing the three dimensional shadows project through the light that reflects off of them.

 

[smokedacane]

I know I said that I think Chi Kung is better but OBE is great as well... It's honestly what you do with it... There are many, many things out there you can make contact & interact with but instead of trying to make contact most would rather denounce something then actually experience for themselves.. Once you start Meditating there are a lot of things you will begin to see that will surprise you.. That is why I like what your doing by starting out with Mindfulness practices first because you won't end up getting freaked out by your experiences like I did

That definitely has a lot to do with societal nuances which influence what we should condone as "reality". As a child you hold no biases and are capable of perceiving things because you are not restricted by a ingrained perspective.

Young kids tend to be more sensitive to what adults would call the paranormal.

Sending you anebook right now bro

 

[smokedacane]

okay so... maybe we exist in the 4th dimension and we are seeing the three dimensional shadows project through the light that reflects off of them.

That is a negative, we can't even supersede fundamental laws of physics which bind a 3 dimensional universe (such as the laws of motion).


If we were in the 4th dimension, laws which are fundamental to the 3rd dimension would not apply to us. But yet we are restricted by them.

 

[smokedacane]

^^^^

To elaborate on my post to Gods_Debris do you notice how some UFO's seem to defy the laws of physics while in flight? There could possibly be a reason for it and that reason could be that those crafts and occupants that operate them could dimensional in nature.

If those crafts were from the 4th dimension it explains why they are able to do aerial maneuvers that would absolutely kill or rip apart any craft or pilots we could possibly send into flight. Their craft don't seem to operate under the same laws as we have too.


The fact that some of these craft have the ability to disappear and reappear back into reality is another possible sign of a 4th dimensional aspect to their origin.

 

[BDR]

Cozmic's response has peeked my interest as I have experienced something similar but I was thought I was asto gliding.

 

[OnSlaught]

I never would have guessed that from all the discussions we have been apart of.


I would of initially pegged you as someone entrenched in the applied sciences.

Thanks man. I like to think of myself as being "well rounded"!

The truth is the math always intimidated me when it came to theoretical physics and higher math. I went up to calc 3 (differential equations) but that was it.

I have a friend on here who took the bold jump to start studying Quantum Mechanics but he was already a chemist.

However, the more you get into your respective field, you find that there is a lot more crossover than you really think. Genomics and proteomics is heavily latent with math and physics...it's just that you don't get to see it all the time because a machine does the work for you!

 

[smokedacane]

Thanks man. I like to think of myself as being "well rounded"!

The truth is the math always intimidated me when it came to theoretical physics and higher math. I went up to calc 3 (differential equations) but that was it.

I have a friend on here who took the bold jump to start studying Quantum Mechanics but he was already a chemist.

However, the more you get into your respective field, you find that there is a lot more crossover than you really think. Genomics and proteomics is heavily latent with math and physics...it's just that you don't get to see it all the time because a machine does the work for you!

It's good to be well versed in a number of topics. I have never been particularly good at math either, my one Achilles heel.

 

[Naha-Nago]

Will read later.

*two cents*

 

[CharlieBrown]

This post has more bullshit per pound than just about anything else on this board.

Never, Never, Never get information on math from a porn board. You'll be dumber than when you started.

And that guy's video about then ten dimension is entirely ( utter bullshit) wrong after the third dimension if he is referring to the ten spatial dimensions of string theory.
if he is simple refering to dimension as REFERENCE points ( A legitimate concept) then he is right but so what!! by the method he is using my car has a fourth dimension: color. And my pretzel has a four dimension:saltiness.

What he is talking about has NOTHING to do with the ten dimensions as used in string theory. (As is evinced by his lack of mathematical references - Look up his bona fides - if you find a degree in math or physics I'll eat my hat I looked it up: HE's A MUSICIAN!!!) He sounds like a bullshit artist capitalizing on the lack of knowledge of the uniformed. Anyone with a degree in math would laugh out loud at that video. I know I did.

You can't even talk about these thing without precise mathematical language. If you think you are getting it by the stuff in this post you a woefully mistaken. Go to Wolfram's mathworld if you what REAL information that will allow you to understand high than 3 spatial dimensions and fractal dimensions.

Run out of here before you get dumber.

 

[CharlieBrown]

Except for the Carl Sagan, Brian Greene, Flatland stuff of course.

THAT info is good and real.