What are your first thoughts when you hear the name Jesse Jackson or see his face?
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He F’d up when he got that gal pregnant….
Although he wasn’t perfect, neither are you or I. He fought while we sat and watched. If you can point out his flaws then ask yourself what did I do when my people needed someone to speak out or bring light to a problem. Be slow to criticize and fast to action
Another CAC or russian troll again. I hate yhat mon- members can create threads.
I've been here longer than you.
Now anybody who is interested in Jesse Jackson's legacy is a Russian? That's just dumb & lazy talk.
I'll never forget the time when he didn't know he was on a "hot mic" and he expressed his TRUE feelings about Obama. Jesse said; "I'd like to cut his nuts off".
Yeah.
That's pretty much where I lost much of my respect for Rev. Jackson.
He was criticizing Obama for not doing right by black people.
What's more important-- Loyalty to Obama or loyalty to Black America?
When I was in college I had a chance to visit Jackson's office in DC with a few other students. One of the guys I went with was the son of a big time Democratic donor who was friends with Bill Clinton. Jackson's partner at the office (white guy) couldn't have been nicer. He gave us a tour of the office. Jackson wanted nothing to do with us. We could hear him in his office cussing telling his partner to get us out of there. Then, some cameras showed up and he became our best friend. He was smiling and engaging with us after the camera arrived. Dude was a big phony which I can forgive, but if you ever read William Pepper's book about the MLK assassination, he implicates Jesse as an informant and conspirator. Ever since I read it, it put enough doubt in my mind about Jesse that I will never respect him.
So you'd say the same of MLK & Malcolm, correct?
That horny mofo who hollered at one of my colleagues back in 2014 in private at a Detroit Main Street Convention trying to slide up in the pussy on some, "I got power and can make you somebody special if you part your legs and let me slide in." There was a 30-year gap between them.
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Yesterday when I made this thread, I went on Twitter to find the picture I recalled Sharpton recently posting and when you search for "Jesse Jackson" on Twitter, this video is all over the top results.
I'm just now watching it... I have never heard of this guy before so I will not automatically believe him but I'm interested in looking into it.
I've heard all these things about him. He doesn't refute them because he knows they're true, and refuting them would prove they are trueA Reverend with no church to preach from
The rumor about him wiping MLK's blood on himself and setting up MLK to be killed is as damning to his character as Louis Farrakhan supposedly being involved and Malcolm X's murder
I would have hoped that most would know automatically that Malcolm and Martin were of a different ilk. I guess I'll have to spell it all the way out.
I don't consider Malcolm and Martin of the same ilk as the others. Better?
No, worse. Because your statement makes no sense now. Where's the consistency, what's the standard?
"If you are in the limelight and you're a Reverend, Preacher, Pastor, and anyone of that ilk, I cannot and will not trust you"
But not Martin and not Malcolm.
Why are they exceptions? Who are the other exceptions? I really have no idea what you are trying to say.
A Reverend with no church to preach from
I was in high school when this book came out, remember Bill O'Reilly promoting it all the time.
The reason my summary was "Underrated leader too often recognized for his shortcomings rather than his contributions" is because back then it seemed like the "shakedown" allegations were all you heard.
@Amajorfucup - Curious for your perspective on the smears.
HmmmJesse Jackass is the that dude who started the Rainbow Coalition when there is no black colors in a rainbow
If you don't know why they are exceptions, I can't help you.
"Good day, Sir."
Hosea Williams is a reputable civil rights activist out of Georgia. One of the front line guys from the era. Ive always believed his accounts on events of that day.
Jesse is a politician and opportunist in both positive and negative aspects of each word. There are MANY legitimate critiques of him as an activist and person. I still will never support or give credence to attacks coming from the likes of O'Reilly and Timmerman.. two unabashed bigots and hypocrites.
I actually would mostly agree with your summation of him as being a flawed figure whose lowlights are highlighted more than his contributions.
Man, it makes me sad to think that account could be true...
Is there a book or video you'd recommend on Jesse that explains the negative side in a fair way? (Not with regard to the Hosea Williams story but his lifetime of activism and the shakedown charges.)
Noah L. Robinson, 88, Father of Jesse Jackson
- Jan. 31, 1997
Noah Lewis Robinson, the biological father of the Rev. Jesse Jackson, died on Monday at Greenville General Hospital in South Carolina. He was 88 and lived in Greenville, S.C.
The cause was a heart attack and complications from Parkinson's disease, Mr. Jackson said.
Mr. Robinson's relationship with a neighbor, 16-year-old Helen Burns, resulted in Mr. Jackson's birth in 1941. At the time, Mr. Robinson was married to Catherine Robinson, a widow with three children from a previous marriage. A year after Miss Burns gave birth, she married Charles Jackson, who later adopted her son.
Jesse Jackson did not learn the identity of his biological father until he was 7 years old. Biographies and other articles about Mr. Jackson's life have said that in that time, the taunts from other children about his birth out of wedlock played a significant role in his drive to succeed.
But Mr. Jackson has said that circumstance can explain only a small part of who he is. In an interview on Wednesday, he talked instead of his closeness to both his biological father and his adoptive father over the years, saying, ''People say I had a father deficit when in truth I had a father surplus.''
He said that the two men were friends and that he always referred to both as his father. If he inherited anything from Mr. Robinson, he said, it was ''his strong healthy ego, a sense of dignity not limited by Southern views.''
''It is where I get the drive to think I could change the South through the civil rights movement and run for President,'' Mr. Jackson said.
Mr. Robinson was born in Greenville and worked for many years as the only black office employee of the John J. Ryan & Sons cotton brokerage in the city's textile industry. He was a cotton grader who was said to have the skill to determine the quality of cotton simply by rolling it on his fingertips and looking at it closely.
He retired more than 25 years ago.
In addition to his wife and Mr. Jackson, Mr. Robinson is survived by three other sons, Noah Jr., of Chicago, George, of Calumet City, Ill., and John, of Santa Fe, N.M.; two stepsons, Brooks E. Gray of Philadelphia and Archie L. Gray of Cleveland, and a stepdaughter, Maria G. Evans of Xenia, Ohio.
Noah L. Robinson, 88, Father of Jesse Jackson (Published 1997)
Noah Lewis Robinson, biological father of Rev Jesse Jackson, dies at 88; photo (M)
Ambition is a muthafucka YP. And we are all susceptible to corruption on some level.. some more than others. Jesse viewed himself as the heir apparent to Martin and thus did what one would do to artificially catapult himself to that position. And yes, he was absolutely a shake down artist. But those shakedowns were targeting corporations who discriminated against, oppressed and exploited Black people. The real issue was if the gains benefited PUSH and Rainbow Coalition more than the actual people. The bigger issue was those "exposing" those shake downs couldnt give a fuck about actual Black oppression and were more concerned with an uppity nlg.g3r playing a political game historically reserved for whites.
Not sure if there is a book that gives a balanced take on it all but heres an article thats a quick read to give you some insight on the man..
And theres a book called "Jesse Jackson Phenomenon" or something like that that touches on it but heavily focuses on his political impact in general.
Who says those ideals are mutually exclusive?
Why do you feel I can only support one but not the other?
Do you think holding Obama in high regards means somehow turning your back on Black America?
If anything; Jesse's statement made me question Jesse's "commitment" to Black people when he was saying he wanted to literally CASTRATE another Black man because he disliked or disagreed with him. To me, that was on some Klan type shit...
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I am lukewarm about Jesse,he did somethings that helped the people but he also did equal things that hurt and set the people back.He was self centered and may have been a part of the plot to kill MLK on some level. He deserves respect for his service but also a side eye for some of the shit he was a part of
Any idea where I can find the rest of the video?
The only way that they can fuck us, well, the biggest way is to let traitors in our midst. That's how they've gotten to everyone of significance. People who sold out.
I remember some old heads calling Jesse Jackson a sellout and at the time I didn't understand why. Now, I'm starting to see it is a God damn shame. The man has spent his life enriching himself off of MLK's Legacy and the throne evacuated by the man himself.
I too have been trying to find the whole interview.
So far all I can find are clips. I'll keep looking.
Jesse Jackson was one of the legends when I was a kid. He ran for President and was one of our icons that was front and center on TV during public issues that confronted Black America. I got motivated to look at him more critically when I saw how hard he was going on Obama. When I look at his history, he didn’t really make much of a difference for Black folks collectively and he gained from his activism. He made a living speaking on Black pain and IMO he was jealous of Obama’s fame and accomplishments. He went hard for Bill Clinton while hating on Obama.
This is why we can't let the Candace Owens of the world back into our midst. She's a known traitor. Jesse Jackson was a secret traitor. Black people are already too damn forgiving as is
I wholeheartedly believe our Traitors should be expurgated, dismissed. If they come today Grandmama's funeral and try to sit down, everybody get up and leave them in that Pew by they goddamn self. No hugs, no condolences. Fuck you. You traitor ass bitch
I wholeheartedly believe our Traitors should be expurgated, dismissed. If they come today Grandmama's funeral and try to sit down, everybody get up and leave them in that Pew by they goddamn self. No hugs, no condolences. Fuck you. You traitor ass bitch
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Over the last 50 years, how was Jesse Jackson "a secret traitor"?
If he's still accepted as being a civil rights leader by many of the Black populous then he is still considered to be a secret traitor.
Candice Owens is an open traitor who was attempting to come back after being excommunicated by whom she thought was her white brethren.
Sold out black people, sold out MLK, and did it all for money, favor, Fame and mini black people don't consider him the traitor that he is